[Scspamcop] Re: What to adjust / can I adjust spams like these to get them to parse?

[Skiwi]

Wazoo wrote:
> "Skiwi" <skiwi at spamcop.net> wrote in message 
> news:g9si73$5mq$1 at news.spamcop.net...
>> So what to do?
>>
>> As the two lines that SpamCop is injecting is causing, or at least 
>> exacerbating, the problem:
>>
>>  - just wait and hope a passing admin (Ellen, etc) reads the post 
>> and has the time to look into it?
> 
> ???? You already had Don responding over in the Forum.  You failed 
> to do any follow-up there.  Even I am waiting for feedback over 
> there.

As I mentioned there after my post, I was bringing the discussion over 
here as I was more comfortable and familiar with this "system" - and to 
be blunt the 'default' in the forums in some of the initial responses 
was that it was somehow my fault, that I was 'messing it up' somehow. I 
am all for efficiency, all for directness, believe me - and can see why 
  technical users such as yourself might assume a simple user rather 
than a well-tried system is the issue - but at least give me the benefit 
of some doubt, to mangle the old cliche!

> As far as Parsing & Reporting staff 'looking into it' .. the issue 
> you seem to be implying would be in reference to the e-mail system, 
> which is owned and maintained by someone else.  As stated over in 
> your Forum Topic, you need to contact JT/Trevor directly if you 
> really thinkg that your spam e-mail is being mis-handled by that 
> system.
> 

And yet I thought this was a user-supported system? <g>

I wanted people with knowledge to may be assure me, if possible, that 
this indeed was a problem BEFORE I started chasing down the contact 
details (thanks for the links below BTW) of the people you mention and 
'bothering' them...

>>  - somehow get hold of the SpamCop Admin via 
>> <nobody at devnull.spamcop.net>?  *innocent* (*grin*)
> 
> Don has posted his e-mail address countless times here and in the 
> Forum.  (Again, noting that Don does not have access to your e-mail 
> account/data.)

I think you missed the <grin> in reference to the reply-to address on 
his posts; I emailed directly and Don replied (I hope he does not mind 
me quoting):

"The problem is the "Message-ID" line... The subsequent lines, such as 
"From", "To", "Subject", etc have gotten run together with it into one 
long line.  The long line itself is OK, but it prevents the parse from 
seeing critical elements of the headers, such as the lines that are run 
into the "Message-ID" line, and fools the parse into thinking that the 
headers are incomplete.

This is all one long line in the headers:

Message-ID: <b288019dbcdc$2a2b2884$53b854ee at sesmail.com> From: 
"=?windows-1251?B?QWJiaWUgQ2hhbWJlcnM=?=" <silvesterm at sesmail.com> To: 
<skiwi at spamcop.net> Subject: 
=?windows-1251?B?U29sdXRpb24gZm9yIHlvdXIgc2V4dWFsIGxpZmU=?= Date: Fri, 
29 Aug 3609 13:23:17 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: 
multipart/alternative; 
boundary=----=_NextPart_000_0023_78_47D9E246.5E19FA3C X-Priority: 3 
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 
6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180

Nothing I can do about that.

- Don D'Minion - SpamCop Admin - "

> 
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> 
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>>  - ignore them and just live with a few spams unreported every 
>> day?
> 
> Your choice.  Yet, I was of the thought that you didn't really 
> 'look' at your spam before submitting????

I think you maybe misread that in support of your possible (and 
misplaced) impression that I wanted "everything to be doing for me - 
what I in fact said, to paraphrase, was that I skimmed the 'auto 
replies' to my Quick Reports.

>>  - adjust them in a "legal" way?
> 
> Based on all the discussion, both here and in the Forum, you have no 
> 'legal' way to 'adjust' anything.  What needs to be done is sort out 
> just why 'you' are having a problem with these submittals.  BTW: 
> this week+ stuff between replies just isn't going to get it. 

I am a geologist by profession and am often not in a position to reply 
on a daily basis as work pressures move me around a bit, away from cell 
phone service let alone an internet connection - I feel no need to 
apologise for that of course.

As to the adjustments, and as mentioned, removing the two header lines 
that Spamcop injects (sic?) allows the spam source at least to parse - 
as others have noted in forums posts and so forth. I assumed the spam 
could NOT be 'adjusted' but I wanted to check (for instance, if you get 
a spam with no body, I understand from many posts over the years I have 
lurked here that you are "able" to add a line like "[no body]" in the 
spam to get it reported.

I am about to put together a SUM for the forum, as requested.

Have a good one...