[Scspamcop] Re: Held mail item 1,000,000

[Mike Easter]

posted to spamcop & spamcop.spam, f/ups to spamcop.

Father Daniel wrote:
> Yes, I have gotten many of these.

You are posting to a group which isn't used for discussion, as it is a
group whose original purpose was for posting of spam, which spam posting
isn't allowed in the discussion groups.  Nowadays there are better ways
to post the spam and then to have the discussion in the discussion
group, such as spamcop.

You are replying to a spam example that was posted simply because it was
representative of the OP Kenneth Brody's onemillionth spam.  IMO In my
opinion, it isn't useful to say 'many of these' because 'these' is too
vague.  The item is a spam -- perhaps you mean that you have gotten many
spams.  The item was sourced from a dynamic IP not yet listed as a
proxy, perhaps you mean you have gotten dynamic sourced items;  the item
was a simple 'penis enlargement' spam - perhaps you mean you have
received many of those.

> The problem I ran into is that I
> tried to report them to SpamCop and EVERY ONE of them is returned to
> me, saying, that SpamCop "cannot find the spam message" in the letter.

That means that you didn't submit the spam correctly and you should
re-read the instructions for spam submission and/or discuss your problem
in the newsgroups or the forum.

> These recent emails (the ones I am getting anyway) are written in
> such a way as to fool the automatic spam checkers (with other random
> words that do not print on the screen but fool the autochecking into
> thinking it is a normal letter.  They do a wonderful job confusing
> SpamCop's automatic checking program, rendering SpamCop totally
> useless in my opinion.

The parser doesn't determine if something is spam.  The parser
determines the source of the item which is properly submitted and if
there is a spamvertised url which resolves.

> Basically I have no choice but to stop using SpamCop altogether until
> they get their act back together, and I don't see a way other than
> posting here to leave them any sort of feedback to explain that they
> are totally missing the boat on a lot of the spam out there.

Here is a suggestion for you to resolve your dilemma.

Reread the SC instructions for how to submit a spam.  Then submit a spam
to the webparser and get its tracking URL and post the tracker in the
discussion group news.spamcop.net/spamcop.

How to make a tracker:

 1 select and obtain the complete spam
 2 privatize the header&body content
 3 webparse it & copy the tracking URL
 4 cancel the report & paste the tracker in here


1  ... in the manner described by the SC faq
http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/19.html  How do I get my email
program to reveal the full, unmodified email?

2 ... by modestly and unambiguously mungeing any private information you
don't want to expose, such as your name or email address which might
appear anywhere in the header or body.  Avoid excessive or confusing
mungeing.

3 login to the SC webparser, paste in the spam, and click Process Spam
button;  then copy the tracking URL from the top 'Here is your TRACKING
URL' of the appearance
http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z1505491930z5db2559eebcde98291b8e783c95d61cez

4 ... after parsing, the report is 'live' until the cancel button is
used.  After cancelling the tracker disappears;  the munged spam report
should be cancelled because it has been materially changed and because
you don't want to leave a tracker live.


-- 
Mike Easter
kibitzer, not SC admin