[Scspamcop] Re: General Spam Question

[antioch]

"Sofa King Tyred of Lar Ting" <nobody at devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message 
news:fglrs2$tik$1 at news.spamcop.net...
> antioch wrote:
>> I hope this is what you are requesting to see - it is a regular and one 
>> of the more interesting reads:-)
>
> In the following, I found that 83.24.191.15 is on the CBL 
> (http://cbl.abuseat.org/lookup.cgi?ip=83.24.191.15), which means you 
> really can not trust the SMTP headers beyond that line (they are likely 
> forged).
>
> As for the "[SPAM?]" being added, I would say that it's not a Barracuda 
> firewall or other device that's changing it, as they normally put 
> "X-original-subject" headers, or other such info to indicate the subject 
> has changed. I'd be looking at my spam-junk settings of the client (OE, 
> Thunderbird, etc.). There are some keywords in the spam that could trigger 
> this, or some Bayesian filtering that maybe is being done on your client 
> when it received the mail (via POP?). Nothing in the headers says that the 
> subject is getting changed anywhere else, but that doesn't mean your ISP 
> is not doing it. My ISP originally had no clue about how their spam 
> filtering was working when I started receiving "SPAM" indicators in the 
> subjects... Customer support and email administrators sadly don't always 
> communicate with each other if it's not in their job description.
>
> I got so fed up at the time with my SMTP/POP service, that I switched over 
> to Gmail. It's a system that's free and is mostly well managed. Spam goes 
> in a "spam" folder and isn't really modified.
>
> Your original post had only one "?" which didn't seem like a question. 
> Perhaps we can better answer if you ask clearly what your question is.
>
>> Return-Path: <lingbgseelzemet at gbgseelze.de>

Thanks for reading the above - I think I have grasped most of what you have 
observed.
Agreed - there was no direct question in  the initial post but in my reply 
to David Bolt I asked the following questions:- "One of the things I was 
wondering was who/what/how that [SPAM] is getting
there.
The other was why am I getting spam addressed to other email addresses."


> Help fight spam by "educating" the lax, zombie-hosting ISPs:
> http://pages.infinit.net/filmore/educateYourISP.htm

Oh I do - ntl/virgin have them - some work in their customer services 
technical department :-)
If I get to the bottom of this I will post back - probably after Xmas :-(

Thanks you to all - I think I might also have gotten away with crossing 
swords with M.E.  Phew!
Rgds
Antioch