[Scspamcop] Re: cox now blocking reports to spamcop (labelling them as spam)

[Miss Betsy]

"Robert Blair" <nobody at nowhere.not> wrote in message 
news:TECQXhvKj0FX-pn2-ck0KYszusSxy at dsl-206-55-144-107.tstonramp.com...
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>>  The receiver should not have any spam
>> allowed in the inbox and any suspect spam (based on IP address, not 
>> content)
>> should be returned to the sender to let them figure out how to get it 
>> sent.
>
> Not the answer.  Some (most) users would not have a clue on what to do
> after they get their email returned.

Some drivers don't have a clue what to do in the snow either.  However, they 
are the ones responsible when their car skids.

>> Most competent ISPs can prevent spam from leaving their mail servers.
>
> IMHO "competent ISPs" is an oxymoron.
>
> Yes they can stop spam from leaving their mail servers but that leaves
> thousands of compromised computers spewing spam.

If the compromised computer IP addresses are blocked, then nobody is 
inconvenienced (except the spammer and the computer user who wonders why his 
computer is so slow.), IIUC.  Most spammers do not use the mail server 
because of the controls that the mail server admin can use.

>
>
>> Any
>> mistakes would be a whole lot less time consuming than the present 
>> system.
>> (well, maybe not at first when consumers would be fighting Cox and 
>> Comcast,
>> etc. but once that was over)
>
> I want all "good" email to show up in my inbox.  I have not found any
> program that will do that reliably.  So I only use a service provider
> that will let all email through to my inbox.  Once on my computer I
> can sort the spam and know that nothing has gone missing.

I know that many business people (and others - I, too, don't want any mail 
filtered for other reasons since I do get unsolicited email that I want) 
don't want any email filters but prefer to take the time to sort themselves. 
However, I am finding that the email I send is often caught by the filters 
for reasons I can't discover.  I would prefer that all email was returned to 
sender that couldn't be delivered even if I had to do something extra to get 
it delivered (or even make a phone call).

IMHO, it wouldn't take long for consumers to realize the value of a 
responsible email service provider.  As it is now, email is getting to be 
too unreliable.  I just had all the emails I sent to aol users returned.  I 
don't know why.  Also, a newsletter that my husband gets is being dropped by 
hotmail.  Again, it is a major hassle to resolve (and the mailing list is 
whitelisted even).  It would be so much easier just to say, "OK, you aren't 
helping me block spam and aren't helping me receive the email I want, I will 
find someone who does."  At the moment the only way to do that is to become 
a mail server admin.

Miss Betsy