[Scspamcop] Re: cox now blocking reports to spamcop (labelling them as spam)

[Mike Easter]

dwayne wrote:

> I understand your point, but when one opens a *brand new* account
> with Cox and the day they assign an e-mail account to you there are
> over eighty (80) spam message in the account... then I see a problem.

That is a sign that you picked a username which was already on a
spamlist.  Spammers like to take usernames they've harvested and attach
them to popular domainnames.  That's how new accounts get instant spam.

> And, if you never give out your new e-mail address or use it and it
> just gets fuller and fuller of spam... then ????

An address which is on millions CDs is going to propagate and get to be
on more millions CDs.

> I have mail with my business ISP and they provide a number of tools
> (including white/black-list, heuristics, etc.) for combatting spam.
> I find that the defenses they provide often causes legitimate mail to
> get eaten while the handful of spam still slips through.

I think there is a big big problem with any general provider's spam
fighting tools which provider tools are likely to -1- reject mail you
wouldnn't have wanted rejected -2- drop goodmail on the floor, lost,
worse worse worse than any goodmail rejection -3- leak spam.

> But my issue with Cox is that they don't provide any tools at the
> server level... so I have to rely on client-side tools like SpamPal
> and others to deal with what comes through.

IMO, the best thing you can do with any spamfilters at the
provider/server level is to turn them off.  Some providers don't give
you the option to turn off all of its spamfiltering - which inability to
disable is the absolute worst kind of spamfilter.  SpamPal is an
excellent client side filter.  That's the way I handle my spam, turn off
the provider's filter and use spampal.  Very very little spam leaks by
SP untagged, and 0.000% of goodmail is tagged as spam.

> Anyway, not to start a fight... just to clarify where I was coming
> from.

What's the problem with turning off the provider filter and using
SpamPal and feeding your Junk folder to SpamCop?

-- 
Mike Easter
kibitzer, not SC admin