[Scrouting] Re: DTI-NET 218.225.224.0/19

[Mike Easter]

Tim McGraw wrote:

> I just did a test where I stuck http://www.eroisensei.info/acc.html, a
> DTI-hosted site, into the middle of an unrelated spamitem, and the
> parser would notify nic-db at dti.ad.jp for that site, so I'm not sure what
> your beef is.

Patto wants to notify username abuse instead of the jp.nic listed contacts
for admin/tech.  Going for abuse is abuse.net's reg.

a. [Network Number]             210.159.128.0/18
b. [Network Name]               DTI-NET
g. [Organization]               DREAM TRAIN INTERNET
m. [Administrative Contact]     MH4804JP
n. [Technical Contact]          MK10931JP

MH4804JP = nic-db at dti.ad.jp
MK10931JP =  nic-db at dti.ad.jp

whois -h whois.abuse.net dti.ad.jp ...
abuse at dti.ad.jp (for dti.ad.jp)

It would seem to me to be dti's call, if they have gone to the trouble to
communicate with SC.  Maybe they want 'generic' notifies to go to abuse
(ergo reg with abuse.net) and SC's to go to nic-db.  Or something.

DTI has a record at spamhaus of 2 /32s for hosting the ROKSO AWG aka
youngjoo aka qline and that record has been there since 2006.

http://www.spamhaus.org/rokso/evidence.lasso?rokso_id=ROK6026  Japanese
spammers of "deai-kei" or "dating" spam.  But "deai" is a euphamism for
prostitution in Japan. Their services also include pornography
distribution. The spam is aimed at the Japanese market, with character
sets in Japanese, so the spam often appears illegible, or simply filled
with "?????", to western computer displays.

Spamhaus has a lot more about the rokso's relationship with its providers.

For me, I don't buy Patto's philosophy about notifying providers which
don't want to be notified or are known to be unresponsive.  My philosophy
is "Don't notify a provider unless there is some evidence that the notify
would be of benefit."  Useless notifies are of absolutely no benefit to
anyone.

I think Patto's philosophy is, "You can beat a provider into submission if
you notify them enough."  Further, "There is no such thing as a useless
notify."


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Mike Easter
kibitzer, not SC admin