From me at privacy.net Mon May 11 14:46:50 2009 From: me at privacy.net (anon) Date: Mon May 11 14:50:09 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] YouTube failure Message-ID: When I click on a link to YouTube, I get the following error: "Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player. Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player." I have JavaScript turned on, have downloaded and installed Flash Player (several times - uninstalled/reinstalled a couple of times) have set the custom security so java is on, have cleared my cache. Still get error. What else should I look for? From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Mon May 11 14:47:18 2009 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Twayne) Date: Mon May 11 14:50:09 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: boot log References: Message-ID: anon wrote: > "Kenneth Brody" wrote in message > news:gssjn6$ep2$1@news.spamcop.net... >> anon wrote: >>> >>> >>> "J. Weaver Jr." wrote in message >>> news:gsq5ft$j0c$1@news.spamcop.net... >>>> anon wrote: >>>> >>>>> Now WHERE does the boot log appear and what is it named? >>>> >>>> The file should be "ntbootlog.txt", in your %SYSTEMROOT% directory >>>> (normally "C:\Windows"). -JW >>> >>> Still need to know how to turn this on permanently! >>> >>> Also - how do I read this file -- I see many "did not load" >>> followed by "did load". >>> >>> All for an old date >> >> On XP, there is a hidden "boot.ini" in the root directory of the boot >> drive. Check the attributes with "attrib c:\boot.ini", and then >> remove any of R/S/H that are there. (For example "attrib -s -h >> c:\boot.ini" to remove S and H.) >> >> Then, edit the file. You will see a line for each boot menu O/S >> choice, which will probably look like: >> >> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP >> Professional" /fastdetect >> > > Thanks. > > Did that - actually it was NOT read only. > >> To force boot logging, add the "/bootlog" flag to the end of the >> line. (I believe it needs a space before it, to separate the flags.) >> >> Restore the attributes you removed above, by using "+" instead of >> "-". For example, "attrib +s +h c:\boot.ini" >> >> >> -- >> Kenneth Brody Use Indigo's advice; you really shouldn't be messing with boot.ini unless you know what you're doing, IMO. Twayne From me at privacy.net Mon May 11 15:02:45 2009 From: me at privacy.net (anon) Date: Mon May 11 15:10:08 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: boot log References: Message-ID: "Twayne" wrote in message news:gu9oap$6rd$1@news.spamcop.net... > anon wrote: >> "Kenneth Brody" wrote in message >> news:gssjn6$ep2$1@news.spamcop.net... >>> anon wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "J. Weaver Jr." wrote in message >>>> news:gsq5ft$j0c$1@news.spamcop.net... >>>>> anon wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Now WHERE does the boot log appear and what is it named? >>>>> >>>>> The file should be "ntbootlog.txt", in your %SYSTEMROOT% directory >>>>> (normally "C:\Windows"). -JW >>>> >>>> Still need to know how to turn this on permanently! >>>> >>>> Also - how do I read this file -- I see many "did not load" >>>> followed by "did load". >>>> >>>> All for an old date >>> >>> On XP, there is a hidden "boot.ini" in the root directory of the boot >>> drive. Check the attributes with "attrib c:\boot.ini", and then >>> remove any of R/S/H that are there. (For example "attrib -s -h >>> c:\boot.ini" to remove S and H.) >>> >>> Then, edit the file. You will see a line for each boot menu O/S >>> choice, which will probably look like: >>> >>> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP >>> Professional" /fastdetect >>> >> >> Thanks. >> >> Did that - actually it was NOT read only. >> >>> To force boot logging, add the "/bootlog" flag to the end of the >>> line. (I believe it needs a space before it, to separate the flags.) >>> >>> Restore the attributes you removed above, by using "+" instead of >>> "-". For example, "attrib +s +h c:\boot.ini" >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Kenneth Brody > > Use Indigo's advice; you really shouldn't be messing with boot.ini unless > you know what you're doing, IMO. > > Twayne > > I did not trim as 'stuff' in middle is pertinent. Will trim the next one. boot.ini was not read only because it had been changed by a computer guru to dual boot. I did change it so the log is permanently on. I'm a little confused when reading it because the failed start is dated but the restart is right after the bad start log - I cannot tell where to look for the failed load. From me at privacy.net Mon May 11 15:09:10 2009 From: me at privacy.net (anon) Date: Mon May 11 15:10:08 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: boot log References: Message-ID: "Twayne" wrote in message news:gu9oap$6rd$1@news.spamcop.net... > anon wrote: >> "Kenneth Brody" wrote in message >> news:gssjn6$ep2$1@news.spamcop.net... >>> anon wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "J. Weaver Jr." wrote in message >>>> news:gsq5ft$j0c$1@news.spamcop.net... >>>>> anon wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Now WHERE does the boot log appear and what is it named? >>>>> >>>>> The file should be "ntbootlog.txt", in your %SYSTEMROOT% directory >>>>> (normally "C:\Windows"). -JW >>>> >>>> Still need to know how to turn this on permanently! >>>> >>>> Also - how do I read this file -- I see many "did not load" >>>> followed by "did load". >>>> >>>> All for an old date >>> >>> On XP, there is a hidden "boot.ini" in the root directory of the boot >>> drive. Check the attributes with "attrib c:\boot.ini", and then >>> remove any of R/S/H that are there. (For example "attrib -s -h >>> c:\boot.ini" to remove S and H.) >>> >>> Then, edit the file. You will see a line for each boot menu O/S >>> choice, which will probably look like: >>> >>> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP >>> Professional" /fastdetect >>> >> >> Thanks. >> >> Did that - actually it was NOT read only. >> >>> To force boot logging, add the "/bootlog" flag to the end of the >>> line. (I believe it needs a space before it, to separate the flags.) >>> >>> Restore the attributes you removed above, by using "+" instead of >>> "-". For example, "attrib +s +h c:\boot.ini" >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Kenneth Brody > > Use Indigo's advice; you really shouldn't be messing with boot.ini unless > you know what you're doing, IMO. > > Twayne > > boot.ini was not read only because a repair guru had modified it for dual boot. Did change it to make logging permanent (change did work.) Looking at log of failure - the log of the restart is not separated form the log of the failure - so I cannot easily tell what failed. Where should I look? From me at privacy.net Mon May 11 18:00:39 2009 From: me at privacy.net (anon) Date: Mon May 11 18:05:08 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] YouTube error Message-ID: When I click on a link to YouTube, I get the following error: "Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player. Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player." I have JavaScript turned on, have downloaded and installed Flash Player (several times - uninstalled/reinstalled a couple of times) have set the custom security so java is on, have cleared my cache. Still get error. What else should I look for? From MikeE at ster.invalid Mon May 11 21:30:00 2009 From: MikeE at ster.invalid (Mike Easter) Date: Mon May 11 21:30:07 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: YouTube error References: Message-ID: anon wrote: > When I click on a link to YouTube, I get the following error: > > "Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of > Adobe's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player. Hello, you either > have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's Flash Player. > Get the latest Flash player." > > I have JavaScript turned on, have downloaded and installed Flash Player > (several times - uninstalled/reinstalled a couple of times) have set the > custom security so java is on, have cleared my cache. > > Still get error. > > What else should I look for? Here's 8 pages of people with the same problem and the majority of them being successful in fixing their problem various ways http://snipr.com/hu3qm Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Macromedia's Flash Here's the answer/page response linked from that discussion that I liked the best... http://snipr.com/hu3tw How to: Fix the Youtube error message 'Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Macromedia's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player'. Check the version of Flash Player installed on your PC Fix common Flash Player installation errors Download the latest version of Flash Player as a single installation file Tip: Click here to run a free scan for Flash Player and file errors. -- Mike Easter kibitzer, not SC admin From me at privacy.net Mon May 11 22:02:39 2009 From: me at privacy.net (anon) Date: Mon May 11 22:05:07 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: YouTube error References: Message-ID: "Mike Easter" wrote in message news:guafu4$ghl$1@news.spamcop.net... > anon wrote: >> When I click on a link to YouTube, I get the following error: >> >> "Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of >> Adobe's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player. Hello, you either >> have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's Flash Player. >> Get the latest Flash player." >> >> I have JavaScript turned on, have downloaded and installed Flash Player >> (several times - uninstalled/reinstalled a couple of times) have set the >> custom security so java is on, have cleared my cache. >> >> Still get error. >> >> What else should I look for? > > Here's 8 pages of people with the same problem and the majority of them > being successful in fixing their problem various ways > http://snipr.com/hu3qm Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an > old version of Macromedia's Flash > > Here's the answer/page response linked from that discussion that I liked > the best... > > http://snipr.com/hu3tw How to: Fix the Youtube error message 'Hello, you > either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Macromedia's Flash > Player. Get the latest Flash player'. > > Check the version of Flash Player installed on your PC > Fix common Flash Player installation errors > Download the latest version of Flash Player as a single installation > file > > Tip: Click here to run a free scan for Flash Player and file errors. > > Mike- BTW - I used to be able to access YouTube, then suddenly no-go. Copied from my original post: > I have JavaScript turned on, have downloaded and installed Flash Player > (several times - uninstalled/reinstalled a couple of times) have set the > custom security so java is on, have cleared my cache. end copy. So I HAVE the latest version. Link http://snipr.com/hu3tw - dos NOT scan for Flash Player errors! Link http://snipr.com/hu3qm - not applicable.- Already had registry scan with 1000+ errors. None of the errors referred to Flash Player. > -- > Mike Easter > kibitzer, not SC admin > From me at privacy.net Mon May 11 22:23:45 2009 From: me at privacy.net (anon) Date: Mon May 11 22:25:08 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] bad_pool_caller Message-ID: I got a BSoD with bad_pool_error after screen saver had run for some time. This was not startup error. Most of the fixes are for startup problems. This is a new error. Any suggestions? From MikeE at ster.invalid Mon May 11 23:11:59 2009 From: MikeE at ster.invalid (Mike Easter) Date: Mon May 11 23:15:08 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: YouTube error References: Message-ID: anon wrote: > "Mike Easter" >> http://snipr.com/hu3tw How to: Fix the Youtube error message 'Hello, >> you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of >> Macromedia's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player'. >> Tip: Click here to run a free scan for Flash Player and file errors. > So I HAVE the latest version. At both of the links that I posted, that's what everyone thinks - they've been to the adobe site over and over and over again. I'm just going by what I read, you saying the same thing they were saying. "Why does the installation on Adobe's site fail?" then... "Solution to all of the above: get the standalone Flash Player installation file (links are at the top of this page). There are two types: one for Internet Explorer, the other is for Mozilla/Firefox/Netscape." > Link http://snipr.com/hu3tw - dos NOT scan for Flash Player errors! That link is supposed to be where the link to the scan is: Tip: Click here to run a free scan for Flash Player and file errors. http://www.liutilities.com/affcb/?id=RBsoftwarepatch&aff=2019&xat=tip or http://snipurl.com/huayu > Link http://snipr.com/hu3qm - not applicable.- Already had registry scan > with 1000+ errors. I'm afraid I can't help you fix your registry. That seems like a lot of errors. Maybe it's time for a reinstall. -- Mike Easter kibitzer, not SC admin From loyal at spamcop.user Tue May 12 01:00:31 2009 From: loyal at spamcop.user (AndrewB) Date: Tue May 12 01:05:08 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: On computer hardware warranties In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > I'm having a problem where, intermittently while playing a game (doesn't > matter which one), the computer will go to a black screen and freeze. > The sound will loop and nothing will happen until I hit the reset > button. Even then sometimes I have to power the whole thing off to get > it to reboot. Late reply due to long newsserver overload.... Be sure that your desktop has enough air going through it. Usually the power supply fan is not enough for computers that go under load, which can often happen while playing games. You'll want to make sure the fans on your video card heatsync and CPU heatsync are good enough. I have a couple dual core desktops running WorldCommunityGrid that are always topped out. Each case has a drum fan that takes up a slot, an extra fan on the back, an extra fan on the front, and a huge fan mounted on the slot bracket over the motherboard, in addition to the other fans. Surprisingly, it's really quiet. But I blow dust out of it every 3-6 months with compressed air. Computers, especially when they get really warm, get really flakey. So, should it hang again, pop off the shell, unplug it, and see how warm the parts are. AndrewB From borgholio at storymind.com Tue May 12 02:41:43 2009 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Tue May 12 02:45:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: On computer hardware warranties In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: AndrewB wrote: > > Late reply due to long newsserver overload.... > > Be sure that your desktop has enough air going through it. Usually the > power supply fan is not enough for computers that go under load, which > can often happen while playing games. > > You'll want to make sure the fans on your video card heatsync and CPU > heatsync are good enough. > > I have a couple dual core desktops running WorldCommunityGrid that are > always topped out. Each case has a drum fan that takes up a slot, an > extra fan on the back, an extra fan on the front, and a huge fan mounted > on the slot bracket over the motherboard, in addition to the other fans. > Surprisingly, it's really quiet. But I blow dust out of it every 3-6 > months with compressed air. > > Computers, especially when they get really warm, get really flakey. > > So, should it hang again, pop off the shell, unplug it, and see how warm > the parts are. > > > AndrewB Temps never got into the danger zone, but the card has long since been RMA'd and the new one is working fine so far...hopefully it is fixed now. From joegill at removethis Tue May 12 09:40:41 2009 From: joegill at removethis (Joe Gill) Date: Tue May 12 09:45:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: bad_pool_caller In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: "anon" wrote in message news:guaj3c$o6m$1@news.spamcop.net... >I got a BSoD with bad_pool_error after screen saver had run for some time. > > This was not startup error. > > Most of the fixes are for startup problems. > > This is a new error. > > Any suggestions? > Do you have all the codes that appeared with the BSOD? Also search 'event log' around the same time for 'smoking guns'// From me at privacy.net Tue May 12 12:55:25 2009 From: me at privacy.net (anon) Date: Tue May 12 13:00:04 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: bad_pool_caller References: Message-ID: "Joe Gill" wrote in message news:gubqou$214$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "anon" wrote in message > news:guaj3c$o6m$1@news.spamcop.net... >>I got a BSoD with bad_pool_error after screen saver had run for some time. >> >> This was not startup error. >> >> Most of the fixes are for startup problems. >> >> This is a new error. >> >> Any suggestions? >> > > Do you have all the codes that appeared with the BSOD? BAD_POOL_CALLER STOP 0x000000c2 (0x00000007, 0x00000cd4, 0x07060001, 0x856fd701) > > Also search 'event log' around the same time for 'smoking guns'// Looked but none of the 'warnings' helped. Looked on Google and there was something about a HDD problem?? From me at privacy.net Tue May 12 13:14:14 2009 From: me at privacy.net (anon) Date: Tue May 12 13:15:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: YouTube error References: Message-ID: "Mike Easter" wrote in message news:gualtb$4uj$1@news.spamcop.net... > anon wrote: >> "Mike Easter" > >>> http://snipr.com/hu3tw How to: Fix the Youtube error message 'Hello, >>> you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of >>> Macromedia's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player'. > >>> Tip: Click here to run a free scan for Flash Player and file errors. > >> So I HAVE the latest version. > > At both of the links that I posted, that's what everyone thinks - they've > been to the adobe site over and over and over again. I'm just going by > what I read, you saying the same thing they were saying. > > "Why does the installation on Adobe's site fail?" > > then... "Solution to all of the above: get the standalone Flash Player > installation file (links are at the top of this page). There are two > types: one for Internet Explorer, the other is for > Mozilla/Firefox/Netscape." > >> Link http://snipr.com/hu3tw - dos NOT scan for Flash Player errors! > > That link is supposed to be where the link to the scan is: Tip: Click > here to run a free scan for Flash Player and file errors. > http://www.liutilities.com/affcb/?id=RBsoftwarepatch&aff=2019&xat=tip or > http://snipurl.com/huayu > >> Link http://snipr.com/hu3qm - not applicable.- Already had registry scan >> with 1000+ errors. > > I'm afraid I can't help you fix your registry. That seems like a lot of > errors. Maybe it's time for a reinstall. > Actually most of the errors are lost links, missing target of shortcuts and that sort of thing. Only the paid version of the scan will fix those. The link to 'fix flash drivers' is actually to a REGISTRY scanner, not a driver scanner. > > -- > Mike Easter > kibitzer, not SC admin > From MikeE at ster.invalid Tue May 12 15:34:56 2009 From: MikeE at ster.invalid (Mike Easter) Date: Tue May 12 15:35:04 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: YouTube error References: Message-ID: anon wrote: > The link to 'fix flash drivers' is actually to a REGISTRY scanner, not a > driver scanner. You never did say if you uninstalled the adobe and installed the specific freestanding and complete players as indicated, snippage below. Related links: Flash Player for Internet Explorer (full standalone package) Flash Player for Firefox/Mozilla/Netscape (full standalone package) Flash Player Uninstall program -- Mike Easter kibitzer, not SC admin From borgholio at storymind.com Tue May 12 17:11:32 2009 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Tue May 12 17:15:02 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Need Mac OSX advice Message-ID: If a software product is designed for an earlier version of OSX such as OS 10.3, and it runs into compatibility problems with later versions such as OS 10.5, is there anything that could be done to help make the program more compatible with the newer version of OSX? Is there anything like an emulator for older version of OSX, or a compatibility mode? From kenbrody at spamcop.net Tue May 12 17:24:12 2009 From: kenbrody at spamcop.net (Kenneth Brody) Date: Tue May 12 17:25:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: bad_pool_caller In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: anon wrote: [...] > BAD_POOL_CALLER > STOP 0x000000c2 (0x00000007, 0x00000cd4, 0x07060001, 0x856fd701) [...] There are numerous possibilities listed here: http://www.google.com/search?q=STOP+0x000000c2+bad_pool_caller+microsoft.com+xp I don't know the specifics of your system to know which one is most likely. (The "xp" part of the search is assuming that you are running XP. Change this as needed if you are using something else.) -- Kenneth Brody From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Tue May 12 18:27:01 2009 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Twayne) Date: Tue May 12 18:30:04 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: bad_pool_caller References: Message-ID: Kenneth Brody wrote: > anon wrote: > [...] >> BAD_POOL_CALLER >> STOP 0x000000c2 (0x00000007, 0x00000cd4, 0x07060001, 0x856fd701) > [...] > > There are numerous possibilities listed here: > > > http://www.google.com/search?q=STOP+0x000000c2+bad_pool_caller+microsoft.com+xp > > I don't know the specifics of your system to know which one is most > likely. (The "xp" part of the search is assuming that you are > running XP. Change this as needed if you are using something else.) I _think_ it was with XP; quite awhile ago I had the same error from the sound of it. Everything, every diagnostic (excepting HD diags) indicated a hardware problem ranging from the HD to the mobo. I ran a chkdsk as a last resort, knowing it could be the end of anything usable on the drive, and lo and behold, it tried to boot! It didn't but it was trying - and gave diferent stop numbers. Long story short: I popped in the DVD/CD, blew away everything on the drive, and performed a clean install starting from deleting/recreating the partitions. Guess what? Worked perfectly! If I'm right and it was XP, that drive is STILL my boot drive; getting a little long in the tooth, but so far only 4 bad sectors and nary a problem. It's going on 6 years old; a record for me! And my machine has run almost 24/7 for the last three years, but I do let the drives spin down after 45 minutes. I guess all I mean is, before you spend money on parts, give a clean install a try. HTH, Twayne From me at privacy.net Tue May 12 20:30:50 2009 From: me at privacy.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue May 12 20:55:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: Need Mac OSX advice References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:gucom2$70k$1@news.spamcop.net... : If a software product is designed for an earlier version of OSX such as OS : 10.3, and it runs into compatibility problems with later versions such as : OS 10.5, is there anything that could be done to help make the program : more compatible with the newer version of OSX? Is there anything like an : emulator for older version of OSX, or a compatibility mode? None that I know of. Be aware the some of the functionality depends on hardware. Intel Mac are practically hard on legacy applications (we had to spend near $4500 bucks when my wife move to a MacBookPro from a MacBook) From borgholio at storymind.com Tue May 12 21:27:34 2009 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Tue May 12 21:30:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: Need Mac OSX advice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > "Borgholio" wrote in message > news:gucom2$70k$1@news.spamcop.net... > : If a software product is designed for an earlier version of OSX such as OS > : 10.3, and it runs into compatibility problems with later versions such as > : OS 10.5, is there anything that could be done to help make the program > : more compatible with the newer version of OSX? Is there anything like an > : emulator for older version of OSX, or a compatibility mode? > > None that I know of. Be aware the some of the functionality depends on > hardware. Intel Mac are practically hard on legacy applications (we had to > spend near $4500 bucks when my wife move to a MacBookPro from a MacBook) > > So far as you know, if a program is designed for OS 10.5, will it be compatible with earlier versions of OS 10? From me at privacy.net Tue May 12 21:43:15 2009 From: me at privacy.net (anon) Date: Tue May 12 21:45:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: bad_pool_caller References: Message-ID: "Twayne" wrote in message news:guct3l$gg2$1@news.spamcop.net... > Kenneth Brody wrote: >> anon wrote: >> [...] >>> BAD_POOL_CALLER >>> STOP 0x000000c2 (0x00000007, 0x00000cd4, 0x07060001, 0x856fd701) >> [...] >> >> There are numerous possibilities listed here: >> >> >> http://www.google.com/search?q=STOP+0x000000c2+bad_pool_caller+microsoft.com+xp >> >> I don't know the specifics of your system to know which one is most >> likely. (The "xp" part of the search is assuming that you are >> running XP. Change this as needed if you are using something else.) > > I _think_ it was with XP; quite awhile ago I had the same error from the > sound of it. Everything, every diagnostic (excepting HD diags) indicated > a hardware problem ranging from the HD to the mobo. I ran a chkdsk as a > last resort, knowing it could be the end of anything usable on the drive, > and lo and behold, it tried to boot! It didn't but it was trying - and > gave diferent stop numbers. > Long story short: I popped in the DVD/CD, blew away everything on the > drive, and performed a clean install starting from deleting/recreating > the partitions. Guess what? Worked perfectly! If I'm right and it was > XP, that drive is STILL my boot drive; getting a little long in the tooth, > but so far only 4 bad sectors and nary a problem. It's going on 6 years > old; a record for me! And my machine has run almost 24/7 for the last > three years, but I do let the drives spin down after 45 minutes. > > I guess all I mean is, before you spend money on parts, give a clean > install a try. > > HTH, > > Twayne After the STOP - which happened during a screen saver run (not a boot up.) I tried to restart a couple of times, then safe mode a couple of times - all failed. Used Ghost to restore the HD and it rebooted fine. I'll see if I get the error again (never had that one before.) > > > > From me at privacy.net Tue May 12 21:45:21 2009 From: me at privacy.net (anon) Date: Tue May 12 21:50:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: bad_pool_caller References: Message-ID: "Kenneth Brody" wrote in message news:gucpdv$20f$1@news.spamcop.net... > anon wrote: > [...] >> BAD_POOL_CALLER >> STOP 0x000000c2 (0x00000007, 0x00000cd4, 0x07060001, 0x856fd701) > [...] > > There are numerous possibilities listed here: > > > http://www.google.com/search?q=STOP+0x000000c2+bad_pool_caller+microsoft.com+xp > > I don't know the specifics of your system to know which one is most > likely. (The "xp" part of the search is assuming that you are running XP. > Change this as needed if you are using something else.) > > -- > Kenneth Brody Those are the ones I previously checked - as noted in previous post. There is a reference to a drive verifier at http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms792872.aspx - but no where to download the checker??? From me at privacy.net Tue May 12 21:47:35 2009 From: me at privacy.net (anon) Date: Tue May 12 21:50:04 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: YouTube error References: Message-ID: "Mike Easter" wrote in message news:gucj0t$683$1@news.spamcop.net... > anon wrote: > >> The link to 'fix flash drivers' is actually to a REGISTRY scanner, not a >> driver scanner. > > You never did say if you uninstalled the adobe and installed the specific > freestanding and complete players as indicated, snippage below. > > > Related links: > Flash Player for Internet Explorer (full standalone package) > Flash Player for Firefox/Mozilla/Netscape (full standalone package) > Flash Player Uninstall program > > > -- > Mike Easter > kibitzer, not SC admin > Give me the link to download the COMPLETE player and I will try that. I thought I did see some page that said it was the complete app but cannot find it again. From avoozl at spamcop.net Tue May 12 21:51:35 2009 From: avoozl at spamcop.net (Chris F. Willoughby) Date: Tue May 12 21:55:02 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: Need Mac OSX advice References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:gud7m4$pmk$1@news.spamcop.net... > So far as you know, if a program is designed for OS 10.5, will it be > compatible with earlier versions of OS 10? Probably Not. From me at privacy.net Tue May 12 21:54:20 2009 From: me at privacy.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue May 12 22:10:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: Need Mac OSX advice References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:gud7m4$pmk$1@news.spamcop.net... : Frog Prince wrote: : > "Borgholio" wrote in message : > news:gucom2$70k$1@news.spamcop.net... : > : If a software product is designed for an earlier version of OSX such as OS : > : 10.3, and it runs into compatibility problems with later versions such as : > : OS 10.5, is there anything that could be done to help make the program : > : more compatible with the newer version of OSX? Is there anything like an : > : emulator for older version of OSX, or a compatibility mode? : > : > None that I know of. Be aware the some of the functionality depends on : > hardware. Intel Mac are practically hard on legacy applications (we had to : > spend near $4500 bucks when my wife move to a MacBookPro from a MacBook) : > : > : : So far as you know, if a program is designed for OS 10.5, will it be : compatible with earlier versions of OS 10? Again the answer is 'depends' Adobe has been really bad with that process. We've some clients that have an entire plant based on early versions of OS 10 and Adobe. We've had to maintain an older desktop with OS 10.2 and older as well as the older legacy applications. It's now at the point where we are, reluctantly, resigning their work as what's done on OS10.5 and the current graphics applications cannot be ported to the legacy hardware or applications. Some seem to work but only after the work product is in the wild do we find out about the problems. No matter what we have in the contracts the clients put the blame on us. From borgholio at storymind.com Tue May 12 23:50:37 2009 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Tue May 12 23:55:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: Need Mac OSX advice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > > Again the answer is 'depends' Adobe has been really bad with that process. > We've some clients that have an entire plant based on early versions of OS > 10 and Adobe. We've had to maintain an older desktop with OS 10.2 and older > as well as the older legacy applications. > > It's now at the point where we are, reluctantly, resigning their work as > what's done on OS10.5 and the current graphics applications cannot be ported > to the legacy hardware or applications. > > Some seem to work but only after the work product is in the wild do we find > out about the problems. No matter what we have in the contracts the clients > put the blame on us. > > Sounds oddly like the problems experienced by people when the first upgrade from 98 / XP to Vista. I thought Mac was better than that. :) From user at domain.invalid Wed May 13 03:03:23 2009 From: user at domain.invalid (Farelf) Date: Wed May 13 03:05:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: YouTube error In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: anon wrote: > > > Give me the link to download the COMPLETE player and I will try that. > > I thought I did see some page that said it was the complete app but > cannot find it again. > > Is this the one? http://www.softwarepatch.com/network-security/flashdownload-security.html (under "Related links:") From kenbrody at spamcop.net Wed May 13 10:00:37 2009 From: kenbrody at spamcop.net (Kenneth Brody) Date: Wed May 13 10:05:04 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: bad_pool_caller In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: anon wrote: [...] > There is a reference to a drive verifier at > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms792872.aspx - but no where to > download the checker??? Actually, it's "driver" verifier. Also, the above URL says "Driver Verifier is included in Windows 2000 and later versions of Microsoft Windows". On my Vista and XP boxes, it's in %windir%\system32\verifier.exe -- Kenneth Brody From me at privacy.net Wed May 13 16:48:06 2009 From: me at privacy.net (Frog Prince) Date: Wed May 13 16:55:04 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: Need Mac OSX advice References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:gudg2b$pmk$2@news.spamcop.net... : Frog Prince wrote: : : > : > Again the answer is 'depends' Adobe has been really bad with that process. : > We've some clients that have an entire plant based on early versions of OS : > 10 and Adobe. We've had to maintain an older desktop with OS 10.2 and older : > as well as the older legacy applications. : > : > It's now at the point where we are, reluctantly, resigning their work as : > what's done on OS10.5 and the current graphics applications cannot be ported : > to the legacy hardware or applications. : > : > Some seem to work but only after the work product is in the wild do we find : > out about the problems. No matter what we have in the contracts the clients : > put the blame on us. : > : > : : Sounds oddly like the problems experienced by people when the first : upgrade from 98 / XP to Vista. I thought Mac was better than that. :) Part is the fact that Mac is using an Intel chip the rest is due to application providers to maximize the sale of 'upgrade' software. Most had no choice with Adobe, most other application providers the market has told to get right or move over From me at privacy.net Wed May 13 17:40:42 2009 From: me at privacy.net (anon) Date: Wed May 13 17:45:02 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: YouTube error References: Message-ID: "Mike Easter" wrote in message news:gucj0t$683$1@news.spamcop.net... > anon wrote: > >> The link to 'fix flash drivers' is actually to a REGISTRY scanner, not a >> driver scanner. > > You never did say if you uninstalled the adobe and installed the specific > freestanding and complete players as indicated, snippage below. > > > Related links: > Flash Player for Internet Explorer (full standalone package) > Flash Player for Firefox/Mozilla/Netscape (full standalone package) > Flash Player Uninstall program > > > -- > Mike Easter > kibitzer, not SC admin > Mike I finally got the link to the complete flash player download. Installed it a HOORAY that cured the problem. Thanks From me at privacy.net Wed May 13 17:41:48 2009 From: me at privacy.net (anon) Date: Wed May 13 17:45:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: YouTube error References: Message-ID: "Farelf" wrote in message news:gudrbu$3n2$1@news.spamcop.net... > anon wrote: >> >> >> Give me the link to download the COMPLETE player and I will try that. >> >> I thought I did see some page that said it was the complete app but >> cannot find it again. >> >> > Is this the one? > > http://www.softwarepatch.com/network-security/flashdownload-security.html > > (under "Related links:") Thanks Installed it and HOORAY that cured the problem. Thanks From avoozl at spamcop.net Thu May 14 01:40:28 2009 From: avoozl at spamcop.net (Chris F. Willoughby) Date: Thu May 14 01:45:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: Need Mac OSX advice References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:gudg2b$pmk$2@news.spamcop.net... > Sounds oddly like the problems experienced by people when the first > upgrade from 98 / XP to Vista. I thought Mac was better than that. :) If you remember.. they had the same issue when going from 68k series to PowerPC and then from those and system 9 to OS X.. So I'd say this isn't the first time. :) From borgholio at storymind.com Thu May 14 02:27:03 2009 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Thu May 14 02:30:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: Need Mac OSX advice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Chris F. Willoughby wrote: > "Borgholio" wrote in message > news:gudg2b$pmk$2@news.spamcop.net... >> Sounds oddly like the problems experienced by people when the first >> upgrade from 98 / XP to Vista. I thought Mac was better than that. :) > > If you remember.. they had the same issue when going from 68k series to > PowerPC and then from those and system 9 to OS X.. So I'd say this isn't > the first time. :) > > Actually I don't remember, I rarely use Macs. :) But from what I read, didn't they have a built in 68k emulator for PPC, and OS 9 Classic mode for early versions of OSX? From me at privacy.net Thu May 14 18:05:24 2009 From: me at privacy.net (anon) Date: Thu May 14 18:10:04 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] device verifier utility Message-ID: A troubleshooting suggestion was use the windows 'driver verifier' utility. I do not find it in the windows folder. where is it? From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Thu May 14 20:53:14 2009 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Wazoo) Date: Thu May 14 20:55:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: device verifier utility References: Message-ID: "anon" wrote in message news:gui4j5$oso$1@news.spamcop.net... >A troubleshooting suggestion was use the windows 'driver verifier' >utility. > > I do not find it in the windows folder. > > where is it? As in all the previous dialog where a 'search' was suggested, I'm thinking the same thing here. All GUI versions of Windows that I can recall have a "Find/Search" function, which includes file names. I tried to come up with a possible "could not find' scenario, but ... I find the file exists on both Home and Pro versions of XP .... both located in the Windows/System32 folder. I actually don't recall the "suggestion to use" dialog. I thought it was a correction to one of your previous posts where you stated "drive" problem for the error description, and "driver" was offered as the 'correct' description. On the other hand, the file name in question also has both an associated .DLL and Help file. From me at privacy.net Thu May 14 21:17:49 2009 From: me at privacy.net (anon) Date: Thu May 14 21:20:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: device verifier utility References: Message-ID: "Wazoo" wrote in message news:guiedq$chv$1@news.spamcop.net... > "anon" wrote in message > news:gui4j5$oso$1@news.spamcop.net... >>A troubleshooting suggestion was use the windows 'driver verifier' >>utility. >> >> I do not find it in the windows folder. >> >> where is it? > > As in all the previous dialog where a 'search' was suggested, I'm thinking > the same thing here. All GUI versions of Windows that I can recall have a > "Find/Search" function, which includes file names. I tried to come up with > a possible "could not find' scenario, but ... I find the file exists on > both Home and Pro versions of XP .... both located in the Windows/System32 > folder. > > I actually don't recall the "suggestion to use" dialog. I thought it was > a correction to one of your previous posts where you stated "drive" > problem for the error description, and "driver" was offered as the > 'correct' description. On the other hand, the file name in question also > has both an associated .DLL and Help file. > I finally DID find it. Now the Question? How do I read the output. I have a list of 'unsigned drivers". Now what do I do with the list? What does the term 'unsigned drivers" actually mean? From me at privacy.net Fri May 15 14:20:10 2009 From: me at privacy.net (anon) Date: Fri May 15 14:35:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] memory dump after BSoD Message-ID: When I get a memory dump after a computer crash. What can I learn form the dumb - how do I read the results? From Unknown.User at Invalid.Domain Fri May 15 18:08:19 2009 From: Unknown.User at Invalid.Domain (Jan M. Nelken) Date: Fri May 15 18:10:04 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: memory dump after BSoD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: anon wrote: > When I get a memory dump after a computer crash. > > What can I learn form the dumb - how do I read the results? > Save dump elsewhere; Install Debugging tools for Windows; Run Debugger and open crash dump. Next step would take a book to describe; use help within debugger for starter. Jan M. Nelken From me at privacy.net Fri May 15 20:46:31 2009 From: me at privacy.net (anon) Date: Fri May 15 20:50:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: memory dump after BSoD References: Message-ID: "Jan M. Nelken" wrote in message news:gukp4j$mrn$1@news.spamcop.net... > anon wrote: >> When I get a memory dump after a computer crash. >> >> What can I learn form the dumb - how do I read the results? >> > > Save dump elsewhere; > Install Debugging tools for Windows; Did that > Run Debugger and open crash dump. Did that - several 'boxes' show similar to: *** Your debugger is not using the correct symbols *** *** *** *** In order for this command to work properly, your symbol path *** *** must point to .pdb files that have full type information. *** *** *** *** Certain .pdb files (such as the public OS symbols) do not *** *** contain the required information. Contact the group that *** *** provided you with these symbols if you need this command to *** *** work. *** *** *** *** Type referenced: nt!_KPRCB **end copy** How do I fix the symbol list? > > Next step would take a book to describe; use help within debugger for > starter. > > > Jan M. Nelken From Unknown.User at Invalid.Domain Fri May 15 21:17:55 2009 From: Unknown.User at Invalid.Domain (Jan M. Nelken) Date: Fri May 15 21:20:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: memory dump after BSoD In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: anon wrote: > Did that - several 'boxes' show similar to: > > *** Your debugger is not using the correct symbols *** > *** *** > *** In order for this command to work properly, your symbol path *** > *** must point to .pdb files that have full type information. *** > *** *** > *** Certain .pdb files (such as the public OS symbols) do not *** > *** contain the required information. Contact the group that *** > *** provided you with these symbols if you need this command to *** > *** work. *** > *** *** > *** Type referenced: nt!_KPRCB > **end copy** > > How do I fix the symbol list? search help for symbol settings - use public Microsoft symbol server. For example I use: SRV*d:\symbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols;d:\mysymbols d:\symbols is my location for d/l symbols from MS server - Windbg will d/l them whenever needed; d:\mysymbols are directories I keep my symbols then - after opening crash dump - issue command: !analyze -v Jan M. Nelken From loyal at spamcop.user Sat May 16 02:14:06 2009 From: loyal at spamcop.user (AndrewB) Date: Sat May 16 02:15:04 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: device verifier utility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: anon wrote: > ... > I have a list of 'unsigned drivers". Now what do I do with the list? > > What does the term 'unsigned drivers" actually mean? Signing is a security term similar to a physical seal or your signature on a check or official document. Usually a unique key is involved. The key passes through the file, and creates a signature. Thusly, the signature could be checked to authenticate who made the file and the file contents. Often times, signed files are granted privileges that unsigned files aren't. Depends on the application. Signed drivers are best, as you probably risk less damage to your operating system due to malware or escalated privledges. So, the companies that made your signed drivers care about you and their code. The unsigned driver makers either didn't know, didn't care, or couldn't pay to have their drivers signed. AndrewB From me at privacy.net Sat May 16 13:52:43 2009 From: me at privacy.net (anon) Date: Sat May 16 13:55:02 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: device verifier utility References: Message-ID: "AndrewB" wrote in message news:gulljc$rjs$1@news.spamcop.net... > anon wrote: >> > ... >> I have a list of 'unsigned drivers". Now what do I do with the list? >> >> What does the term 'unsigned drivers" actually mean? > > > Signing is a security term similar to a physical seal or your signature on > a check or official document. > > Usually a unique key is involved. The key passes through the file, and > creates a signature. Thusly, the signature could be checked to > authenticate who made the file and the file contents. Often times, signed > files are granted privileges that unsigned files aren't. Depends on the > application. > > Signed drivers are best, as you probably risk less damage to your > operating system due to malware or escalated privledges. > > So, the companies that made your signed drivers care about you and their > code. The unsigned driver makers either didn't know, didn't care, or > couldn't pay to have their drivers signed. > > > AndrewB All that is well and good - BUT WHAT DO I DO WITH THE LIST?? My interpretation is that the OEM's did not sign the app - so what if they didn't? From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Sat May 16 15:00:02 2009 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Twayne) Date: Sat May 16 15:00:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: device verifier utility References: Message-ID: anon wrote: > "AndrewB" wrote in message > news:gulljc$rjs$1@news.spamcop.net... >> anon wrote: >>> >> ... >>> I have a list of 'unsigned drivers". Now what do I do with the list? >>> >>> What does the term 'unsigned drivers" actually mean? >> >> >> Signing is a security term similar to a physical seal or your >> signature on a check or official document. >> >> Usually a unique key is involved. The key passes through the file, >> and creates a signature. Thusly, the signature could be checked to >> authenticate who made the file and the file contents. Often times, >> signed files are granted privileges that unsigned files aren't. >> Depends on the application. >> >> Signed drivers are best, as you probably risk less damage to your >> operating system due to malware or escalated privledges. >> >> So, the companies that made your signed drivers care about you and >> their code. The unsigned driver makers either didn't know, didn't >> care, or couldn't pay to have their drivers signed. >> >> >> AndrewB > > All that is well and good - BUT WHAT DO I DO WITH THE LIST?? > > My interpretation is that the OEM's did not sign the app - so what if > they didn't? Exactly. So what if they didn't? Since they didn't pay Microsoft a "bribe" to consider them as signed, only means that you should know where you're getting them from and not much else, which is even true of "signed" documents. MS doesn't want you using any software they don't know about or that they didn't write. It's silly and as long as the programs/drivers/whatever come from a reputable/suitable place, nothing else can be a problem. I pay no attention to those notices at all anymore. If I did, I wouldn't have a LOT of the excellent GPL and open source programs I use! I've forgotten which one but I even came across a MS program once that wasn't signed. Might have been Live One Care, but don't quote me on that. Anyway, when I asked them about it I never got any kind of response about it. It's like I asked about their personal salaries or something. Anyway, an unsigned driver simply means it wasn't submitted to MS for their paid "blessing". Not many people do it anymore, including companies of some pretty great software. Cheers, Twayne From me at privacy.net Sat May 16 19:34:36 2009 From: me at privacy.net (anon) Date: Sat May 16 19:35:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: device verifier utility References: Message-ID: "Twayne" wrote in message news:gun2fb$dtq$1@news.spamcop.net... > anon wrote: >> "AndrewB" wrote in message >> news:gulljc$rjs$1@news.spamcop.net... >>> anon wrote: >>>> >>> ... >>>> I have a list of 'unsigned drivers". Now what do I do with the list? >>>> >>>> What does the term 'unsigned drivers" actually mean? >>> >>> clip > > Anyway, an unsigned driver simply means it wasn't submitted to MS for > their paid "blessing". Not many people do it anymore, including companies > of some pretty great software. > > Cheers, > > Twayne > > What does the driver checking program accomplish? I keep getting a BSoD with driver corruption as the reason. MS suggested using verifiier.exe to check. Since signing is not the answer - what do I look for? From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Sun May 17 13:54:30 2009 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Twayne) Date: Sun May 17 13:55:02 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: device verifier utility References: Message-ID: anon wrote: > "Twayne" wrote in message > news:gun2fb$dtq$1@news.spamcop.net... >> anon wrote: >>> "AndrewB" wrote in message >>> news:gulljc$rjs$1@news.spamcop.net... >>>> anon wrote: >>>>> >>>> ... >>>>> I have a list of 'unsigned drivers". Now what do I do with the >>>>> list? What does the term 'unsigned drivers" actually mean? >>>> >>>> > > clip >> >> Anyway, an unsigned driver simply means it wasn't submitted to MS for >> their paid "blessing". Not many people do it anymore, including >> companies of some pretty great software. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Twayne >> >> > > What does the driver checking program accomplish? It just checks for a code inside the program that indicates it is "signed". I'm not sure whether it "calls home" to MS for verification or not but I do know you don't need an internet connection to do driver signature checks. > > I keep getting a BSoD with driver corruption as the reason. I missed that point in your post. The would indicate a damaged, corrupted or incorrect driver or driver installation. > > MS suggested using verifiier.exe to check. No idea why they said that, unless they meant a different program and not a signature verifier. Otherwise you just had some dingo in support that needs his butt lifted. > > Since signing is not the answer - what do I look for? I havent' followed this thread, but you might start by posting what program is having the problem and the driver name if it's given to you. When does the error occur, what do you do to make it occur, and so forth? See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q555375 for some hints on what to include. You probably need to replace the driver. Go to the manufacturer's website (nowhere else, only that particular object's manufacturer) and download the latest driver for whatever it is you have the problem with. Get instructions on how to install it while you're there, and follow them to install it. You will most likely be up and running after that. If not, come back with a full set of information and I suspect you will find more help is available to settle this out. I suspect it's highly likely the driver "signing" bit has led you on a wild goose chase and away from the actual problem you have. HTH, Twayne From loyal at spamcop.user Sun May 17 14:55:38 2009 From: loyal at spamcop.user (AndrewB) Date: Sun May 17 15:00:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: device verifier utility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: anon wrote: > > I keep getting a BSoD with driver corruption as the reason. What does the BSOD say? What does the Event Viewer display later when you get the OS up and running? AndrewB From me at privacy.net Sun May 17 20:36:26 2009 From: me at privacy.net (anon) Date: Sun May 17 20:40:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: device verifier utility References: Message-ID: "AndrewB" wrote in message news:gupmj7$fqb$1@news.spamcop.net... > anon wrote: >> >> I keep getting a BSoD with driver corruption as the reason. > > What does the BSOD say? What does the Event Viewer display later when you > get the OS up and running? > > > AndrewB BSoD has now been appearing during screen saver time. I activate screen saver and come back some hours later and find the "fatal error" message on the screen when I move mouse to stop screen saver. BSoD says Device driver attempting to corrupt the system STOP 0x000000c4 (0x00000090, 0xba038120, 0x00000000, 0x00000000) parameters two varies. After reboot, screen appears saying fatal error - after sending report the following screen appears" Blue screen error caused by a device or driver You received this message because a hardware device, its driver, or related software has caused a blue screen error. This type of error means the computer has shut down abruptly to protect itself from potential data corruption or loss. In this case, we were unable to detect the specific device or driver that caused the problem. IMPORTANT QUESTION -I have set the '\"do not reboot after BSoD" so I have time to inspect 'stuff'. COMPUTER REBOOTS AUTOMATICALLY!! How to stop automatic reboot? Have inspected event viewer - "IPSec Services failed to get the complete list of network interfaces on the machine." multiple times. Nothing about driver. From loyal at spamcop.user Mon May 18 01:29:47 2009 From: loyal at spamcop.user (AndrewB) Date: Mon May 18 01:30:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: device verifier utility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: anon wrote: > > BSoD has now been appearing during screen saver time. I activate screen > saver and come back some hours later and find the "fatal error" message > on the screen when I move mouse to stop screen saver. What screen saver are you using? Try switching to one of the stock screen savers that comes with Windows to see if the problem is reproducible. > BSoD says > Device driver attempting to corrupt the system > STOP 0x000000c4 (0x00000090, 0xba038120, 0x00000000, 0x00000000) > parameters two varies. > > After reboot, screen appears saying fatal error - after sending report > the following screen appears" > > Blue screen error caused by a device or driver > > You received this message because a hardware device, its driver, or > related software has caused a blue screen error. This type of error > means the computer has shut down abruptly to protect itself from > potential data corruption or loss. In this case, we were unable to > detect the specific device or driver that caused the problem. Are you by chance using a Norton product like AntiVirus? http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;325672 > IMPORTANT QUESTION -I have set the '\"do not reboot after BSoD" so I > have time to inspect 'stuff'. COMPUTER REBOOTS AUTOMATICALLY!! > > How to stop automatic reboot? Once you see a BSOD, there isn't much you can do on the computer except power cycle the thing. The system is effectively halted at that point. > Have inspected event viewer - "IPSec Services failed to get the complete > list of network interfaces on the machine." multiple times. Nothing > about driver. I thought if a BSOD happened, an entry would be written to the event log, perhaps on the System section. I haven't had a blue screen in years though, so I'm going by memory. AndrewB From me at privacy.net Mon May 18 16:37:11 2009 From: me at privacy.net (anon) Date: Mon May 18 16:40:04 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: device verifier utility References: Message-ID: "AndrewB" wrote in message news:guqro9$qq6$1@news.spamcop.net... > anon wrote: >> BSoD has now been appearing during screen saver time. I activate screen >> saver and come back some hours later and find the "fatal error" message >> on the screen when I move mouse to stop screen saver. > > > What screen saver are you using? Try switching to one of the stock screen > savers that comes with Windows to see if the problem is reproducible. Flowerbox - came with windows. > >> BSoD says >> Device driver attempting to corrupt the system >> STOP 0x000000c4 (0x00000090, 0xba038120, 0x00000000, 0x00000000) >> parameters two varies. >> >> After reboot, screen appears saying fatal error - after sending report >> the following screen appears" >> >> Blue screen error caused by a device or driver >> >> You received this message because a hardware device, its driver, or >> related software has caused a blue screen error. This type of error means >> the computer has shut down abruptly to protect itself from potential data >> corruption or loss. In this case, we were unable to detect the specific >> device or driver that caused the problem. > > Are you by chance using a Norton product like AntiVirus? > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;325672 > > > >> IMPORTANT QUESTION -I have set the '\"do not reboot after BSoD" so I have >> time to inspect 'stuff'. COMPUTER REBOOTS AUTOMATICALLY!! >> >> How to stop automatic reboot? > > > Once you see a BSOD, there isn't much you can do on the computer except > power cycle the thing. The system is effectively halted at that point. That is the point - the computer does NOT stop at that point. After writing a memory dump to the HDD, the computer automatically reboots - contrary to my settings that say *I* must reboot manually.. > > >> Have inspected event viewer - "IPSec Services failed to get the complete >> list of network interfaces on the machine." multiple times. Nothing about >> driver. > > > I thought if a BSOD happened, an entry would be written to the event log, > perhaps on the System section. I haven't had a blue screen in years > though, so I'm going by memory. > I have looked at the event viewer but am unable to determine exactly what caused the BSoD. This BSoD during screen saver time has just recently started - strange. > > AndrewB From loyal at spamcop.user Tue May 19 00:03:37 2009 From: loyal at spamcop.user (AndrewB) Date: Tue May 19 00:05:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: device verifier utility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: anon wrote: >> >> What screen saver are you using? Try switching to one of the stock >> screen savers that comes with Windows to see if the problem is >> reproducible. > > Flowerbox - came with windows. That screensaver uses the OpenGL (I think) libraries to do the drawing. Do the other 3D screensavers also have the same problem? And how about the non-3D screensavers? If flowerbox is the only screensaver that kills your box, could be something graphics related (driver for your card, your card, your card is getting too hot, etc). I once had a AMD64 box running Ubuntu that suddenly had all sorts of problems. Turned out to be the fan on the video card, which had completely gummed up and wasn't moving. Since the fan was cemented to the CPU on the card, I had to locate a PCI (!!) video card for the dinosaur. Try reseating the card as well. Or a different slot on the motherboard (if possible). >> Once you see a BSOD, there isn't much you can do on the computer >> except power cycle the thing. The system is effectively halted at >> that point. > > That is the point - the computer does NOT stop at that point. > > After writing a memory dump to the HDD, the computer automatically > reboots - contrary to my settings that say *I* must reboot manually.. Yup. The OS is toast usually after such a low level memory corruption in the kernel. Rebooting is best you can do - like a horse with a broken leg. > I have looked at the event viewer but am unable to determine exactly > what caused the BSoD. Ok. Maybe XP doesn't write to the event viewer like I thought, or the corruption is so low level the OS can't do much except dump memory to disk. > This BSoD during screen saver time has just recently started - strange. With the case off, make sure the video fan is working well. Is it also warm in your part of the world? What are the daytime temperatures of your office/room where the computer is. You can also try a table top fan, and have it blow air onto the motherboard with the case off. If this works for long periods of time, you have a heat buildup problem of sorts. AndrewB From me at privacy.net Tue May 19 13:20:51 2009 From: me at privacy.net (anon) Date: Tue May 19 13:25:04 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] io system verification error in serscan.sys Message-ID: BSoD with this error: io system verification error in serscan.sys Tried to Google it but my computer keeps (not responding) when I open the links I find. Tried restoring a ghost of prior backup. Still get error. Able to boot to safe mode where I am now. Event viewer shows lots of DCON unable to start in safe mode but it did. How do I get this error cured? From me at privacy.net Wed May 20 00:35:36 2009 From: me at privacy.net (anon) Date: Wed May 20 00:40:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] SOMEONE H E L P!!!! io system verification error Message-ID: BSoD with this error: io system verification error in serscan.sys Tried to Google it but my computer keeps (not responding) when I open the links I find. Tried restoring a ghost of prior backup. Still get error. Able to boot to safe mode where I am now. Event viewer shows lots of DCON unable to start in safe mode but it did. How do I get this error cured? From kenbrody at spamcop.net Wed May 20 10:05:46 2009 From: kenbrody at spamcop.net (Kenneth Brody) Date: Wed May 20 10:10:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: SOMEONE H E L P!!!! io system verification error In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: anon wrote: > BSoD with this error: io system verification error in serscan.sys > > Tried to Google it but my computer keeps (not responding) when I open > the links I find. All of the pages that Google finds if I search for the entire message you give above are for a single post from someone with the same message. There are no replies. > Tried restoring a ghost of prior backup. > > Still get error. > > Able to boot to safe mode where I am now. > > Event viewer shows lots of DCON unable to start in safe mode but it did. > > How do I get this error cured? Searching for the message without "serscan.sys" at the end gives more, general, hits. They all seem to point to "driver verifier". Here is a link about using it to troubleshoot such BSODs: http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000576.html Here is Microsoft's KB article on Driver Verifier: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;244617 -- Kenneth Brody From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Wed May 20 12:04:26 2009 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Twayne) Date: Wed May 20 12:05:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: SOMEONE H E L P!!!! io system verification error References: Message-ID: Kenneth Brody wrote: > anon wrote: >> BSoD with this error: io system verification error in serscan.sys >> >> Tried to Google it but my computer keeps (not responding) when I open >> the links I find. > > All of the pages that Google finds if I search for the entire message > you give above are for a single post from someone with the same > message. There are no replies. > >> Tried restoring a ghost of prior backup. >> >> Still get error. >> >> Able to boot to safe mode where I am now. >> >> Event viewer shows lots of DCON unable to start in safe mode but it >> did. How do I get this error cured? > > Searching for the message without "serscan.sys" at the end gives more, > general, hits. They all seem to point to "driver verifier". Here is > a link about using it to troubleshoot such BSODs: > > http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000576.html > > Here is Microsoft's KB article on Driver Verifier: > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;244617 Ken, I've heard verifier.exe before but this following text at Edbott stopped me in my tracks: Beware: If Driver Verifier finds a nonconforming driver - even one that doesn't seem to be causing any problems - it will prevent your system from starting. If you use the advice in this article and have trouble starting your system, I won't be able to help you. Use Driver Verifier only if you're having problems. In other words, if it ain't broke . Great; what am I missing? Off the top of my head, a tool that makes my machine unbootable whenever it finds a problem is, well, uhhh, well, not exactly a tool. Later, he intimate that Safe Mode is usable in at least some situations but never says whether it's an all or only some boot solution. Do you know if it is? Rather than explain the possible outcomes, the author simply says "don't blame me" over and over; not a good way to write a doc IMO. So, if an unrelated driver keeps me from boothing, what is the solution in all cases: Safe Mode? And, I assume, replace the driver. Thanks, Twayne` Speed reading thru the rest of the article, I now see why a recent thread degraded to an interesting discussion of unsigned drivers. From mrmaxx at spamcop.net Wed May 20 12:06:49 2009 From: mrmaxx at spamcop.net (John Aldrich) Date: Wed May 20 12:10:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: Disk Defragmenter referrals requested References: Message-ID: On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:21:36 -0700, AndrewB wrote: > I'm looking for a good disk defragmenter that operates with my > requirements: > > - supports NTFS, FAT*, Linux filesystems - bootable cd > - works outside of the host operating system - good performance > > > I currently use VCom's Partition Commander 10, and it's ok. It takes > about 7 hours for a 40gb laptop drive (slower rpm than a desktop drive), > and for NTFS file systems, WinXP Pro has to do an integrity check > afterwards. Partition Commander probably didn't clean up correctly. > > I only need to run it every couple of months. > > Any suggestions for products to investigate? > Grr... I'll have to go with O&O as someone else mentioned. I don't think you'll have much luck finding something that works off a boot disk and doesn't cause Windows to run a chkdsk next time you boot. Heck, even using the NT Password Reset disk you usually have to run chkdsk. As for defragmenting a linux partition, I've always been told that's a Windows issue as EXT2 and EXT3 don't have that problem due to the way they write files. From mrmaxx at spamcop.net Wed May 20 12:21:09 2009 From: mrmaxx at spamcop.net (John Aldrich) Date: Wed May 20 12:25:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: Why can't I open this site? References: Message-ID: On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 06:04:23 -0700, jg wrote: >> When I have trouble with a webpage, the first thing I do is take the >> browser out of the equation and use a little tiny tool called IDServe. >> [snip] >> http://www.grc.com/id/idserve.htm "ID Serve", a simple, free, small >> (26 kbytes), and fast, general purpose Internet server identification >> utility. >> > Mike, know an equivalent linux tool? > 26 k - thats hardly enough for the graphic screen... > Links or Lynx work nicely. Don't have to worry about trying to download pictures either. :-) 'Course some sites just won't work in Links due to their coding, but at least you can connect and see that it's trying to load. From blacklist-me at davjam.org Wed May 20 14:36:10 2009 From: blacklist-me at davjam.org (David Bolt) Date: Wed May 20 15:05:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: Why can't I open this site? References: Message-ID: <9$qtEe1a2EFKFw$i@dev.null.davjam.org> On Wed, 20 May 2009, John Aldrich wrote:- >> Mike, know an equivalent linux tool? >> 26 k - thats hardly enough for the graphic screen... >> >Links or Lynx work nicely. Don't have to worry about trying to download >pictures either. :-) 'Course some sites just won't work in Links due to >their coding, but at least you can connect and see that it's trying to >load. You could also use: curl -I $URL which will give you the HTTP headers in just the same way as IDserve, but also lets you do many other things including faking the user-agent, download files, include custom headers, post to forms, etc. You should find it all Linux distros[0] and BSD releases, and it's also available for Windows, Cygwin and native, and several other OSes. Both sources and pre-compiled binaries are available here: [0] I've not yet found one that didn't include it, but that doesn't mean there isn't some obscure one without it. Regards, David Bolt -- Team Acorn: http://www.distributed.net/ OGR-NG @ ~100Mnodes RC5-72 @ ~1Mkeys/s openSUSE 10.3 32b | openSUSE 11.0 32b | | openSUSE 10.3 64b | openSUSE 11.0 64b | openSUSE 11.1 64b | RISC OS 3.6 | RISC OS 3.11 | openSUSE 11.1 PPC | TOS 4.02 From me at privacy.net Wed May 20 16:50:57 2009 From: me at privacy.net (anon) Date: Wed May 20 16:55:04 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: SOMEONE H E L P!!!! io system verification error References: Message-ID: "Kenneth Brody" wrote in message news:gv12nu$pf2$1@news.spamcop.net... > anon wrote: >> BSoD with this error: io system verification error in serscan.sys >> >> Tried to Google it but my computer keeps (not responding) when I open the >> links I find. > > All of the pages that Google finds if I search for the entire message you > give above are for a single post from someone with the same message. > There are no replies. > >> Tried restoring a ghost of prior backup. >> >> Still get error. >> >> Able to boot to safe mode where I am now. >> >> Event viewer shows lots of DCON unable to start in safe mode but it did. >> >> How do I get this error cured? > > Searching for the message without "serscan.sys" at the end gives more, > general, hits. They all seem to point to "driver verifier". Here is a > link about using it to troubleshoot such BSODs: > > http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000576.html > > Here is Microsoft's KB article on Driver Verifier: > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;244617 > > -- > Kenneth Brody I had a BSoD with bad driver indicated. Ran verifier. Could not understand the output. Maybe the link above will help?? From me at privacy.net Wed May 20 16:58:42 2009 From: me at privacy.net (anon) Date: Wed May 20 17:00:02 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: SOMEONE H E L P!!!! io system verification error References: Message-ID: "Twayne" wrote in message news:gv19ma$pqd$1@news.spamcop.net... > Kenneth Brody wrote: >> anon wrote: >>> BSoD with this error: io system verification error in serscan.sys >>> >>> Tried to Google it but my computer keeps (not responding) when I open >>> the links I find. >> >> All of the pages that Google finds if I search for the entire message >> you give above are for a single post from someone with the same >> message. There are no replies. >> >>> Tried restoring a ghost of prior backup. >>> >>> Still get error. >>> >>> Able to boot to safe mode where I am now. >>> >>> Event viewer shows lots of DCON unable to start in safe mode but it >>> did. How do I get this error cured? >> >> Searching for the message without "serscan.sys" at the end gives more, >> general, hits. They all seem to point to "driver verifier". Here is >> a link about using it to troubleshoot such BSODs: >> >> http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000576.html >> >> Here is Microsoft's KB article on Driver Verifier: >> >> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;244617 > > Ken, > > I've heard verifier.exe before but this following text at Edbott stopped > me in my tracks: > > Beware: If Driver Verifier finds a nonconforming driver - even one that > doesn't seem to be causing any problems - it will prevent your system from > starting. If you use the advice in this article and have trouble starting > your system, I won't be able to help you. Use Driver Verifier only if > you're having problems. In other words, if it ain't broke . > > > Great; what am I missing? Off the top of my head, a tool that makes my > machine unbootable whenever it finds a problem is, well, uhhh, well, not > exactly a tool. > Later, he intimate that Safe Mode is usable in at least some situations > but never says whether it's an all or only some boot solution. Do you > know if it is? > Rather than explain the possible outcomes, the author simply says "don't > blame me" over and over; not a good way to write a doc IMO. So, if an > unrelated driver keeps me from boothing, what is the solution in all > cases: Safe Mode? And, I assume, replace the driver. > > Thanks, > > Twayne` > > Speed reading thru the rest of the article, I now see why a recent > thread degraded to an interesting discussion of unsigned drivers. > Signed and unsigned drivers??? What is the difference, and why. >From what I gather, 'Signed by OEM and/or MS doesn't make any diff. Just gets it listed. After the above crash, I could restart in safe mode (with network but without printers ,etc.) Restored ghost image to prior to above BSoD, able to restart normally and function normally. Of source that driver probably is still around. Also still getting IPSec Services failed - still trying to fix that. From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Wed May 20 20:02:16 2009 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Twayne) Date: Wed May 20 20:05:02 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: SOMEONE H E L P!!!! io system verification error References: Message-ID: anon wrote: > "Twayne" wrote in message > news:gv19ma$pqd$1@news.spamcop.net... >> Kenneth Brody wrote: >>> anon wrote: >>>> BSoD with this error: io system verification error in serscan.sys >>>> >>>> Tried to Google it but my computer keeps (not responding) when I >>>> open the links I find. >>> >>> All of the pages that Google finds if I search for the entire >>> message you give above are for a single post from someone with the >>> same message. There are no replies. >>> >>>> Tried restoring a ghost of prior backup. >>>> >>>> Still get error. >>>> >>>> Able to boot to safe mode where I am now. >>>> >>>> Event viewer shows lots of DCON unable to start in safe mode but it >>>> did. How do I get this error cured? >>> >>> Searching for the message without "serscan.sys" at the end gives >>> more, general, hits. They all seem to point to "driver verifier". >>> Here is a link about using it to troubleshoot such BSODs: >>> >>> http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000576.html >>> >>> Here is Microsoft's KB article on Driver Verifier: >>> >>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;244617 >> >> Ken, >> >> I've heard verifier.exe before but this following text at Edbott >> stopped me in my tracks: >> >> Beware: If Driver Verifier finds a nonconforming driver - even one >> that doesn't seem to be causing any problems - it will prevent your >> system from starting. If you use the advice in this article and have >> trouble starting your system, I won't be able to help you. Use >> Driver Verifier only if you're having problems. In other words, if >> it ain't broke . >> >> Great; what am I missing? Off the top of my head, a tool that makes >> my machine unbootable whenever it finds a problem is, well, uhhh, >> well, not exactly a tool. >> Later, he intimate that Safe Mode is usable in at least some >> situations but never says whether it's an all or only some boot >> solution. Do you know if it is? >> Rather than explain the possible outcomes, the author simply says >> "don't blame me" over and over; not a good way to write a doc IMO. >> So, if an unrelated driver keeps me from boothing, what is the >> solution in all cases: Safe Mode? And, I assume, replace the driver. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Twayne` >> >> Speed reading thru the rest of the article, I now see why a recent >> thread degraded to an interesting discussion of unsigned drivers. >> > > Signed and unsigned drivers??? > > What is the difference, and why. Signed drivers are just drivers that have been submitted to Microsoft, along with a handful of cash, and MS lists them as "listed", meaning OK for windows. Unless you download software from infamous sites that push malware etc., you're likely OK. If it's unsigned, it just means MS wasn't paid to list it and nothing else. The intent was to get people to use nothing but MS software and maybe a few "special" companies who had the bucks to get them listed. I don't know of anyone that pays much attention to it. It makes no sense at all IMO in the world of open source and GPL software, etc.. > > From what I gather, 'Signed by OEM and/or MS doesn't make any diff. > Just gets it listed. Basically true. Sort of like a pregnanc test; if it's listed, it's most likely OK. If it's not listed, it doesn't mean it's OK or NOT OK. Only that the author didn't bother with the MS "blessing". > > After the above crash, I could restart in safe mode (with network but > without printers ,etc.) > > Restored ghost image to prior to above BSoD, able to restart normally > and function normally. Since you have disk images, you might consider going back one more earlier date. It's possible the precursors for the blue screen were there and just not yet affecting anything. If no change, you can always go back to the image you had. Can't hurt, might help. > > Of source that driver probably is still around. Have you tried re-downloading the driver/s from the manufacturer's site? It sounds a lot like file corruption from here. You have done the requisite AV and malware scans, right? With each of them updated? > > Also still getting IPSec Services failed - still trying to fix that. Have you checked to see if IPSec is being started? Maybe the service just isn't running? Never had IPSec problems so no experience there. Since you seem to have deep system file problems, perhaps a Repair Install? In theory you won't lose any data, but it's still best to be sure to backup your data. You'll also end up with some updates to reinstall. That shouldn't be necessary though, really, if you have earlier images saved. Keep going back until you find one that works. Then check to see what you lost in the install/update areas. Luck! Twayne` From me at privacy.net Wed May 20 23:18:49 2009 From: me at privacy.net (anon) Date: Wed May 20 23:20:04 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: SOMEONE H E L P!!!! io system verification error References: Message-ID: "Twayne" wrote in message news:gv25m6$nfn$1@news.spamcop.net... > anon wrote: >> "Twayne" wrote in message >> news:gv19ma$pqd$1@news.spamcop.net... >>> Kenneth Brody wrote: >>>> anon wrote: >>>>> BSoD with this error: io system verification error in serscan.sys >>>>> >>>>> Tried to Google it but my computer keeps (not responding) when I >>>>> open the links I find. >>>> clip >> >> From what I gather, 'Signed by OEM and/or MS doesn't make any diff. >> Just gets it listed. > > Basically true. Sort of like a pregnanc test; if it's listed, it's most > likely OK. If it's not listed, it doesn't mean it's OK or NOT OK. Only > that the author didn't bother with the MS "blessing". > >> >> After the above crash, I could restart in safe mode (with network but >> without printers ,etc.) >> >> Restored ghost image to prior to above BSoD, able to restart normally >> and function normally. > > Since you have disk images, you might consider going back one more earlier > date. It's possible the precursors for the blue screen were there and > just not yet affecting anything. If no change, you can always go back to > the image you had. Can't hurt, might help. > I did that. got rid of the no-start BSoD but the computer still crashes several times during the day. Still working on THAT one. Actually tried several images and found one that was prior to the no-start. >> >> Of source that driver probably is still around. > > Have you tried re-downloading the driver/s from the manufacturer's site? > It sounds a lot like file corruption from here. > You have done the requisite AV and malware scans, right? With each of > them updated? > Do not know WHICH driver is at fault. Still trying to find out that culprit. >> >> Also still getting IPSec Services failed - still trying to fix that. > > Have you checked to see if IPSec is being started? Maybe the service just > isn't running? Never had IPSec problems so no experience there. > Unable to ascertain that. When I check, it seems to be running, I think. After the crash - all the records are lost. > Since you seem to have deep system file problems, perhaps a Repair > Install? In theory you won't lose any data, but it's still best to be > sure to backup your data. You'll also end up with some updates to > reinstall. > My feelings about the repair install are **I don't want to loose everything back to "out of the factory box" state. It seems that 'repair' means dump a lot of things that I need. > That shouldn't be necessary though, really, if you have earlier images > saved. Keep going back until you find one that works. Then check to see > what you lost in the install/update areas. > I don't want to go back too far in the images as they also represent lost information.. > Luck! > > Twayne` > From loyal at spamcop.user Thu May 21 00:11:19 2009 From: loyal at spamcop.user (AndrewB) Date: Thu May 21 00:15:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: SOMEONE H E L P!!!! io system verification error In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Twayne wrote: > > Signed drivers are just drivers that have been submitted to Microsoft, > along with a handful of cash, and MS lists them as "listed", meaning OK > for windows. Unless you download software from infamous sites that push > malware etc., you're likely OK. If it's unsigned, it just means MS > wasn't paid to list it and nothing else. The intent was to get people > to use nothing but MS software and maybe a few "special" companies who > had the bucks to get them listed. I don't know of anyone that pays much > attention to it. It makes no sense at all IMO in the world of open > source and GPL software, etc.. It may be more than that, too. A signed driver may be able to access lower level kernel services, because it's trusted. You wouldn't want to download some freeware and have it install a driver that monitors your keystrokes, for instance. AndrewB From loyal at spamcop.user Thu May 21 00:17:13 2009 From: loyal at spamcop.user (AndrewB) Date: Thu May 21 00:20:02 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: SOMEONE H E L P!!!! io system verification error In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: anon wrote: > > got rid of the no-start BSoD but the computer still crashes several > times during the day. > > Still working on THAT one. > > Actually tried several images and found one that was prior to the no-start. This is somewhat alarming - that your system keeps crashing. You probably have some sort of hardware problem, and it could be anything - heat related, hard drive related, bad memory, etc. Is there any chance you can download Ubuntu, burn the ISO image to a cdrom, and boot the cd? It has a memory checker that you can run. You can also boot Ubuntu off the cd (although it's really slow) and use it as a trial operating system. You'll get Firefox and other goodies - it can then connect to your network and you should be able to get on the Internet. My thought here is to see if Ubuntu is as solid as your Windows is. Should Ubuntu crash often, then that eliminates your software as the issue. You might also have a hard drive problem. As they spin at 7200rpm, if the motor starts to go, the head doesn't make it to where it's supposed to go, seek failures occur, etc. Maybe get another hard drive, and restore your images to the new one. You might also consider taking it to a repair shop. Your problems sound somewhat severe. AndrewB From me at privacy.net Thu May 21 14:59:39 2009 From: me at privacy.net (anon) Date: Thu May 21 15:00:04 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: SOMEONE H E L P!!!! io system verification error References: Message-ID: "AndrewB" wrote in message news:gv2k98$8mi$1@news.spamcop.net... > Twayne wrote: > >> >> Signed drivers are just drivers that have been submitted to Microsoft, >> along with a handful of cash, and MS lists them as "listed", meaning OK >> for windows. Unless you download software from infamous sites that push >> malware etc., you're likely OK. If it's unsigned, it just means MS >> wasn't paid to list it and nothing else. The intent was to get people to >> use nothing but MS software and maybe a few "special" companies who had >> the bucks to get them listed. I don't know of anyone that pays much >> attention to it. It makes no sense at all IMO in the world of open source >> and GPL software, etc.. > > > It may be more than that, too. A signed driver may be able to access > lower level kernel services, because it's trusted. You wouldn't want to > download some freeware and have it install a driver that monitors your > keystrokes, for instance. > > I have found some driver info. Looking at ntbtlog.txt at failure time - last one loaded : \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\b57xp32.sys crash occurred here - don't know which of these caused the crash. next one not loaded: \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\usbuhci.sys NOW where do I find these drivers to replace the existing ones. Error message says corrupted driver caused BSoD. > AndrewB From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Thu May 21 17:06:52 2009 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Twayne) Date: Thu May 21 17:10:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: SOMEONE H E L P!!!! io system verification error References: Message-ID: anon wrote: > "Twayne" wrote in message > news:gv25m6$nfn$1@news.spamcop.net... >> anon wrote: >>> "Twayne" wrote in message >>> news:gv19ma$pqd$1@news.spamcop.net... >>>> Kenneth Brody wrote: >>>>> anon wrote: >>>>>> BSoD with this error: io system verification error in serscan.sys >>>>>> >>>>>> Tried to Google it but my computer keeps (not responding) when I >>>>>> open the links I find. >>>>> > > clip >>> >>> From what I gather, 'Signed by OEM and/or MS doesn't make any diff. >>> Just gets it listed. >> >> Basically true. Sort of like a pregnanc test; if it's listed, it's >> most likely OK. If it's not listed, it doesn't mean it's OK or NOT >> OK. Only that the author didn't bother with the MS "blessing". >> >>> >>> After the above crash, I could restart in safe mode (with network >>> but without printers ,etc.) >>> >>> Restored ghost image to prior to above BSoD, able to restart >>> normally and function normally. >> >> Since you have disk images, you might consider going back one more >> earlier date. It's possible the precursors for the blue screen were >> there and just not yet affecting anything. If no change, you can >> always go back to the image you had. Can't hurt, might help. >> > > I did that. > > got rid of the no-start BSoD but the computer still crashes several > times during the day. > > Still working on THAT one. > > Actually tried several images and found one that was prior to the > no-start. > >>> >>> Of source that driver probably is still around. >> >> Have you tried re-downloading the driver/s from the manufacturer's >> site? It sounds a lot like file corruption from here. >> You have done the requisite AV and malware scans, right? With >> each of them updated? >> > > Do not know WHICH driver is at fault. > > Still trying to find out that culprit. > > >>> >>> Also still getting IPSec Services failed - still trying to fix >>> that. >> >> Have you checked to see if IPSec is being started? Maybe the >> service just isn't running? Never had IPSec problems so no >> experience there. > > Unable to ascertain that. > > When I check, it seems to be running, I think. > > After the crash - all the records are lost. > > >> Since you seem to have deep system file problems, perhaps a Repair >> Install? In theory you won't lose any data, but it's still best to >> be sure to backup your data. You'll also end up with some updates to >> reinstall. >> > > My feelings about the repair install are **I don't want to loose > everything back to "out of the factory box" state. > > It seems that 'repair' means dump a lot of things that I need. > > >> That shouldn't be necessary though, really, if you have earlier >> images saved. Keep going back until you find one that works. Then >> check to see what you lost in the install/update areas. >> > > I don't want to go back too far in the images as they also represent > lost information.. > >> Luck! >> >> Twayne` This is a little confusing: You say you have drive images available to you, yet you are afraid of losing any data. That doesn't computer with me. If you data isn't backed up, considering the things going on, you are taking a very real chance on losing everything. Especially if there is only one disk drive. If the drive goes south, ALL of your data goes with it. If your data is that important to you, then you have better get a Full backup accomplished soon, of ALL your data at least, preferably including the OS so you can always at least get back to the point where you are now, warts and all. It sounds to me like you are risking all or most of your data; not good. HTH, Twayne` From me at privacy.net Thu May 21 19:01:21 2009 From: me at privacy.net (anon) Date: Thu May 21 19:05:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: SOMEONE H E L P!!!! io system verification error References: Message-ID: "Twayne" wrote in message news:gv4fp8$d9h$1@news.spamcop.net... > anon wrote: >> "Twayne" wrote in message >> news:gv25m6$nfn$1@news.spamcop.net... >>> anon wrote: >>>> "Twayne" wrote in message >>>> news:gv19ma$pqd$1@news.spamcop.net... >>>>> Kenneth Brody wrote: >>>>>> anon wrote: >>>>>>> BSoD with this error: io system verification error in serscan.sys >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tried to Google it but my computer keeps (not responding) when I >>>>>>> open the links I find. >>>>>> >> >> clip >>> Luck! >>> >>> Twayne` > > This is a little confusing: You say you have drive images available to > you, yet you are afraid of losing any data. That doesn't computer with > me. > I am talking about ntbtlog.txt,mempry.dmp, and other windows troubleshooting files stored on the c:drive as well as some settings that I have changed over time.. I have MY data stored on another drive. > If you data isn't backed up, considering the things going on, you are > taking a very real chance on losing everything. Especially if there is > only one disk drive. If the drive goes south, ALL of your data goes with > it. > If your data is that important to you, then you have better get a Full > backup accomplished soon, of ALL your data at least, preferably including > the OS so you can always at least get back to the point where you are now, > warts and all. It sounds to me like you are risking all or most of your > data; not good. > > HTH, > > Twayne` > > > > > From me at privacy.net Thu May 21 20:12:38 2009 From: me at privacy.net (anon) Date: Thu May 21 20:15:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: SOMEONE H E L P!!!! io system verification error References: Message-ID: "anon" wrote in message news:gv48b4$d3v$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > "AndrewB" wrote in message > news:gv2k98$8mi$1@news.spamcop.net... >> Twayne wrote: >> >>> >>> Signed drivers are just drivers that have been submitted to Microsoft, >>> along with a handful of cash, and MS lists them as "listed", meaning OK >>> for windows. Unless you download software from infamous sites that push >>> malware etc., you're likely OK. If it's unsigned, it just means MS >>> wasn't paid to list it and nothing else. The intent was to get people >>> to use nothing but MS software and maybe a few "special" companies who >>> had the bucks to get them listed. I don't know of anyone that pays much >>> attention to it. It makes no sense at all IMO in the world of open >>> source and GPL software, etc.. >> >> >> It may be more than that, too. A signed driver may be able to access >> lower level kernel services, because it's trusted. You wouldn't want to >> download some freeware and have it install a driver that monitors your >> keystrokes, for instance. >> >> > > I have found some driver info. > > Looking at ntbtlog.txt at failure time - > > last one loaded : \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\b57xp32.sys > > crash occurred here - don't know which of these caused the crash. > > next one not loaded: \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\usbuhci.sys > > NOW where do I find these drivers to replace the existing ones. > > Error message says corrupted driver caused BSoD. > > > > >> AndrewB > Assuming that either b57xp32.sys or usbuhci.sys is corrupted - how do I fix it? I have a windows xp disk with b57xp32.sys on it but do not have the other driver. How do I install from the disk and where do I find and how to install the other? Where do these GET installed - windows\system32 folder??? From user at domain.invalid Fri May 22 08:34:08 2009 From: user at domain.invalid (User) Date: Fri May 22 08:35:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: SOMEONE H E L P!!!! io system verification error In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 21.05.2009 19:12, anon wrote: --- Original Message --- > > > "anon" wrote in message > news:gv48b4$d3v$1@news.spamcop.net... >> >> >> "AndrewB" wrote in message >> news:gv2k98$8mi$1@news.spamcop.net... >>> Twayne wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Signed drivers are just drivers that have been submitted to >>>> Microsoft, along with a handful of cash, and MS lists them as >>>> "listed", meaning OK for windows. Unless you download software from >>>> infamous sites that push malware etc., you're likely OK. If it's >>>> unsigned, it just means MS wasn't paid to list it and nothing else. >>>> The intent was to get people to use nothing but MS software and >>>> maybe a few "special" companies who had the bucks to get them >>>> listed. I don't know of anyone that pays much attention to it. It >>>> makes no sense at all IMO in the world of open source and GPL >>>> software, etc.. >>> >>> >>> It may be more than that, too. A signed driver may be able to access >>> lower level kernel services, because it's trusted. You wouldn't want >>> to download some freeware and have it install a driver that monitors >>> your keystrokes, for instance. >>> >>> >> >> I have found some driver info. >> >> Looking at ntbtlog.txt at failure time - >> >> last one loaded : \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\b57xp32.sys >> >> crash occurred here - don't know which of these caused the crash. >> >> next one not loaded: \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\usbuhci.sys >> >> NOW where do I find these drivers to replace the existing ones. >> >> Error message says corrupted driver caused BSoD. >> >> >> >> >>> AndrewB >> > > Assuming that either b57xp32.sys or usbuhci.sys is corrupted - how do I > fix it? > > I have a windows xp disk with b57xp32.sys on it but do not have the > other driver. > > How do I install from the disk and where do I find and how to install > the other? > > Where do these GET installed - windows\system32 folder??? > > > This may help: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles/q307/2/71.asp&NoWebContent=1 From me at privacy.net Fri May 22 12:57:34 2009 From: me at privacy.net (anon) Date: Fri May 22 13:00:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: SOMEONE H E L P!!!! io system verification error References: Message-ID: "User" wrote in message news:gv663u$vpb$1@news.spamcop.net... > On 21.05.2009 19:12, anon wrote: > > --- Original Message --- > >> >> >> "anon" wrote in message >> news:gv48b4$d3v$1@news.spamcop.net... >>> >>> >>> "AndrewB" wrote in message >>> news:gv2k98$8mi$1@news.spamcop.net... >>>> Twayne wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Signed drivers are just drivers that have been submitted to Microsoft, >>>>> along with a handful of cash, and MS lists them as "listed", meaning >>>>> OK for windows. Unless you download software from infamous sites that >>>>> push malware etc., you're likely OK. If it's unsigned, it just means >>>>> MS wasn't paid to list it and nothing else. The intent was to get >>>>> people to use nothing but MS software and maybe a few "special" >>>>> companies who had the bucks to get them listed. I don't know of >>>>> anyone that pays much attention to it. It makes no sense at all IMO in >>>>> the world of open source and GPL software, etc.. >>>> >>>> >>>> It may be more than that, too. A signed driver may be able to access >>>> lower level kernel services, because it's trusted. You wouldn't want >>>> to download some freeware and have it install a driver that monitors >>>> your keystrokes, for instance. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> I have found some driver info. >>> >>> Looking at ntbtlog.txt at failure time - >>> >>> last one loaded : \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\b57xp32.sys >>> >>> crash occurred here - don't know which of these caused the crash. >>> >>> next one not loaded: \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\usbuhci.sys >>> >>> NOW where do I find these drivers to replace the existing ones. >>> >>> Error message says corrupted driver caused BSoD. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> AndrewB >>> >> >> Assuming that either b57xp32.sys or usbuhci.sys is corrupted - how do I >> fix it? >> >> I have a windows xp disk with b57xp32.sys on it but do not have the other >> driver. >> >> How do I install from the disk and where do I find and how to install the >> other? >> >> Where do these GET installed - windows\system32 folder??? >> >> >> > > This may help: > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles/q307/2/71.asp&NoWebContent=1 Looked at it but nowhere could I find the driver to download or anywhere to download ANY drivers. > From me at privacy.net Fri May 22 16:20:16 2009 From: me at privacy.net (anon) Date: Fri May 22 16:25:04 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] admin account not in list Message-ID: When I click on start -> change users - my account is the only one shown - NO ADMINISTRATOR account. When I try to crate an administrator account - error says it already exists. How do I get admin to display in the list of accounts (guest which is active is also not displayed?) From user at domain.invalid Fri May 22 19:35:22 2009 From: user at domain.invalid (User) Date: Fri May 22 19:40:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: SOMEONE H E L P!!!! io system verification error In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 22.05.2009 11:57, anon wrote: --- Original Message --- > > > "User" wrote in message > news:gv663u$vpb$1@news.spamcop.net... >> On 21.05.2009 19:12, anon wrote: >> >> --- Original Message --- >> >>> >>> >>> "anon" wrote in message >>> news:gv48b4$d3v$1@news.spamcop.net... >>>> >>>> >>>> "AndrewB" wrote in message >>>> news:gv2k98$8mi$1@news.spamcop.net... >>>>> Twayne wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Signed drivers are just drivers that have been submitted to >>>>>> Microsoft, along with a handful of cash, and MS lists them as >>>>>> "listed", meaning OK for windows. Unless you download software >>>>>> from infamous sites that push malware etc., you're likely OK. If >>>>>> it's unsigned, it just means MS wasn't paid to list it and nothing >>>>>> else. The intent was to get people to use nothing but MS software >>>>>> and maybe a few "special" companies who had the bucks to get them >>>>>> listed. I don't know of anyone that pays much attention to it. It >>>>>> makes no sense at all IMO in the world of open source and GPL >>>>>> software, etc.. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It may be more than that, too. A signed driver may be able to >>>>> access lower level kernel services, because it's trusted. You >>>>> wouldn't want to download some freeware and have it install a >>>>> driver that monitors your keystrokes, for instance. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> I have found some driver info. >>>> >>>> Looking at ntbtlog.txt at failure time - >>>> >>>> last one loaded : \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\b57xp32.sys >>>> >>>> crash occurred here - don't know which of these caused the crash. >>>> >>>> next one not loaded: \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\usbuhci.sys >>>> >>>> NOW where do I find these drivers to replace the existing ones. >>>> >>>> Error message says corrupted driver caused BSoD. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> AndrewB >>>> >>> >>> Assuming that either b57xp32.sys or usbuhci.sys is corrupted - how >>> do I fix it? >>> >>> I have a windows xp disk with b57xp32.sys on it but do not have the >>> other driver. >>> >>> How do I install from the disk and where do I find and how to install >>> the other? >>> >>> Where do these GET installed - windows\system32 folder??? >>> >>> >>> >> >> This may help: >> >> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles/q307/2/71.asp&NoWebContent=1 >> > > Looked at it but nowhere could I find the driver to download or anywhere > to download ANY drivers. > >> Google is your friend: http://www.dynamiclink.nl/htmfiles/rframes/info_sys/info_u/32.htm From me at privacy.net Fri May 22 20:32:30 2009 From: me at privacy.net (anon) Date: Fri May 22 20:35:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: SOMEONE H E L P!!!! io system verification error References: Message-ID: "User" wrote in message news:gv7cro$e13$1@news.spamcop.net... > On 22.05.2009 11:57, anon wrote: > > --- Original Message --- > >> >> >> "User" wrote in message >> news:gv663u$vpb$1@news.spamcop.net... >>> On 21.05.2009 19:12, anon wrote: >>> >>> --- Original Message --- >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "anon" wrote in message >>>> news:gv48b4$d3v$1@news.spamcop.net... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "AndrewB" wrote in message >>>>> news:gv2k98$8mi$1@news.spamcop.net... >>>>>> Twayne wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Signed drivers are just drivers that have been submitted to >>>>>>> Microsoft, along with a handful of cash, and MS lists them as >>>>>>> "listed", meaning OK for windows. Unless you download software from >>>>>>> infamous sites that push malware etc., you're likely OK. If it's >>>>>>> unsigned, it just means MS wasn't paid to list it and nothing else. >>>>>>> The intent was to get people to use nothing but MS software and >>>>>>> maybe a few "special" companies who had the bucks to get them >>>>>>> listed. I don't know of anyone that pays much attention to it. It >>>>>>> makes no sense at all IMO in the world of open source and GPL >>>>>>> software, etc.. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It may be more than that, too. A signed driver may be able to access >>>>>> lower level kernel services, because it's trusted. You wouldn't want >>>>>> to download some freeware and have it install a driver that monitors >>>>>> your keystrokes, for instance. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I have found some driver info. >>>>> >>>>> Looking at ntbtlog.txt at failure time - >>>>> >>>>> last one loaded : \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\b57xp32.sys >>>>> >>>>> crash occurred here - don't know which of these caused the crash. >>>>> >>>>> next one not loaded: \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\usbuhci.sys >>>>> >>>>> NOW where do I find these drivers to replace the existing ones. >>>>> >>>>> Error message says corrupted driver caused BSoD. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> AndrewB >>>>> >>>> >>>> Assuming that either b57xp32.sys or usbuhci.sys is corrupted - how do >>>> I fix it? >>>> >>>> I have a windows xp disk with b57xp32.sys on it but do not have the >>>> other driver. >>>> >>>> How do I install from the disk and where do I find and how to install >>>> the other? >>>> >>>> Where do these GET installed - windows\system32 folder??? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> This may help: >>> >>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles/q307/2/71.asp&NoWebContent=1 >> >> Looked at it but nowhere could I find the driver to download or anywhere >> to download ANY drivers. >> >>> > > Google is your friend: > > http://www.dynamiclink.nl/htmfiles/rframes/info_sys/info_u/32.htm For $19.99 - nope - it was included with something. Got a free download? From loyal at spamcop.user Fri May 22 21:50:07 2009 From: loyal at spamcop.user (AndrewB) Date: Fri May 22 21:55:02 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: SOMEONE H E L P!!!! io system verification error In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: anon wrote: > Assuming that either b57xp32.sys or usbuhci.sys is corrupted - how do I > fix it? > > I have a windows xp disk with b57xp32.sys on it but do not have the > other driver. > > How do I install from the disk and where do I find and how to install > the other? > > Where do these GET installed - windows\system32 folder??? I believe, or there used to be, a way to unpack single files off of the windows media you have. Microsoft used to put a list of files (or I think so, I haven't had to do this in years) and what archive they are in. And the command line utility, unpack, has a command line to do the work. You'll then have to put them in the right place. As the files are corrupt, it could either be due to a dying hard disk (recall my earlier message) or a trojan/virus that overwrote them on purpose. The corruption was probably NOT caused by a BSOD - as often only unwritten disk areas at the time of the BSOD never get committed to disk. This is a rare occurrence, but it can happen. So usually files open for write are corrupted if the disk check at next boot can't correct the problem. From doing some Yahoo searches online, it appears they both are in $WINDOWS\system32. AndrewB From me at privacy.net Fri May 22 22:39:04 2009 From: me at privacy.net (anon) Date: Sat May 23 12:30:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: SOMEONE H E L P!!!! io system verification error References: Message-ID: NEW PROBLEM Found driver on windows disk. instead of *.sys the extension is *.sy_ How do I extract this and put it in the correct folder? From me at privacy.net Sat May 23 12:58:32 2009 From: me at privacy.net (anon) Date: Sat May 23 13:00:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: SOMEONE H E L P!!!! io system verification error References: Message-ID: "AndrewB" wrote in message news:gv7koe$gs1$1@news.spamcop.net... > anon wrote: > >> Assuming that either b57xp32.sys or usbuhci.sys is corrupted - how do I >> fix it? >> >> I have a windows xp disk with b57xp32.sys on it but do not have the other >> driver. >> >> How do I install from the disk and where do I find and how to install the >> other? >> >> Where do these GET installed - windows\system32 folder??? > > > I believe, or there used to be, a way to unpack single files off of the > windows media you have. Microsoft used to put a list of files (or I think > so, I haven't had to do this in years) and what archive they are in. And > the command line utility, unpack, has a command line to do the work. > You'll then have to put them in the right place. > > As the files are corrupt, it could either be due to a dying hard disk > (recall my earlier message) or a trojan/virus that overwrote them on > purpose. The corruption was probably NOT caused by a BSOD - as often only > unwritten disk areas at the time of the BSOD never get committed to disk. > This is a rare occurrence, but it can happen. So usually files open for > write are corrupted if the disk check at next boot can't correct the > problem. > > From doing some Yahoo searches online, it appears they both are in > $WINDOWS\system32. > > > AndrewB The only 'unpack' I found on my HDD was in java folder and MS office folder. Both of these cannot unpack anything except their own folders. There is NO unpack as part of windows. There is no unpack on the windows CD Searched Google but nothing fit (lots of hits.) From MikeE at ster.invalid Sat May 23 15:29:20 2009 From: MikeE at ster.invalid (Mike Easter) Date: Sat May 23 15:30:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: SOMEONE H E L P!!!! io system verification error References: Message-ID: AndrewB wrote: > I believe, or there used to be, a way to unpack single files off of the > windows media you have. Windows has an sfc - system file checker - function. It can 'examine' algorithmically the files in its list and determine if something is missing or corrupt and offer to fix it. That system is capable of retrieving the files from a cached store or extract a file from the windows install disk .cab files. I've used it on W98, not XP, but my xp describes SFC as still being around. anon - search your help/support for sfc -- Mike Easter kibitzer, not SC admin From me at privacy.net Sat May 23 17:25:03 2009 From: me at privacy.net (anon) Date: Sat May 23 17:30:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: SOMEONE H E L P!!!! io system verification error References: Message-ID: "Mike Easter" wrote in message news:gv9iqi$5un$1@news.spamcop.net... > AndrewB wrote: > >> I believe, or there used to be, a way to unpack single files off of the >> windows media you have. > > Windows has an sfc - system file checker - function. It can 'examine' > algorithmically the files in its list and determine if something is > missing or corrupt and offer to fix it. That system is capable of > retrieving the files from a cached store or extract a file from the > windows install disk .cab files. > > I've used it on W98, not XP, but my xp describes SFC as still being > around. > > anon - search your help/support for sfc > > Ran that - with /scannow parameter. Said I needed the xp pro cd which I do not have (running xp home.) Could not continue. > -- > Mike Easter > kibitzer, not SC admin > From not at home.today Sat May 23 18:38:56 2009 From: not at home.today (Ant) Date: Sat May 23 18:40:04 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: SOMEONE H E L P!!!! io system verification error References: Message-ID: "anon" wrote: > Found driver on windows disk. > instead of *.sys the extension is *.sy_ > How do I extract this and put it in the correct folder? There should be a command line program on the CD called extract.exe. For help, type: extract /? However, before/instead of doing that look in windows\Driver Cache\i386 for the cabinet file driver.cab and if you have service packs installed, sp2.cab and sp3.cab. Look first in the latest sp cab (they should open with explorer if double-clicked) and copy the latest version of b57xp32.sys and usbuhci.sys to windows\system32\drivers\ usbuhci.sys is UHCI USB miniport driver from Microsoft. b57xp32.sys is a Gigabit Ethernet driver from Broadcom corp. From me at privacy.net Sat May 23 19:14:28 2009 From: me at privacy.net (anon) Date: Sat May 23 19:15:02 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: SOMEONE H E L P!!!! io system verification error References: Message-ID: "Ant" wrote in message news:gv9tvn$npd$1@news.spamcop.net... > "anon" wrote: > >> Found driver on windows disk. >> instead of *.sys the extension is *.sy_ >> How do I extract this and put it in the correct folder? > > There should be a command line program on the CD called extract.exe. > For help, type: extract /? > > However, before/instead of doing that look in windows\Driver Cache\i386 > for the cabinet file driver.cab and if you have service packs installed, > sp2.cab and sp3.cab. Look first in the latest sp cab (they should open > with explorer if double-clicked) and copy the latest version of > b57xp32.sys and usbuhci.sys to windows\system32\drivers\ > > usbuhci.sys is UHCI USB miniport driver from Microsoft. > b57xp32.sys is a Gigabit Ethernet driver from Broadcom corp. > > A. Typed extract on the cd - not found. B. Checked cabs not found. From not at home.today Sat May 23 20:41:04 2009 From: not at home.today (Ant) Date: Sat May 23 20:45:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: SOMEONE H E L P!!!! io system verification error References: Message-ID: "anon" wrote: > A. Typed extract on the cd - not found. Sorry, my mistake, it's called expand.exe and should be in the i386 directory on CD. > B. Checked cabs not found. That's odd. On my system b57xp32.sys is in driver.cab and usbuhci.sys is in sp2.cab From kenbrody at spamcop.net Sat May 23 23:24:23 2009 From: kenbrody at spamcop.net (Kenneth Brody) Date: Sat May 23 23:25:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: admin account not in list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: anon wrote: > When I click on start -> change users - my account is the only one shown > - NO ADMINISTRATOR account. > > When I try to crate an administrator account - error says it already > exists. > > How do I get admin to display in the list of accounts (guest which is > active is also not displayed?) Is this Vista? Start an administrator shell. (Right-click the "command prompt" item on the start menu, and select "run as administrator".) Then type: net user administrator /active:yes -- Kenneth Brody From me at privacy.net Sun May 24 14:14:13 2009 From: me at privacy.net (anon) Date: Sun May 24 14:15:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: admin account not in list References: Message-ID: "Kenneth Brody" wrote in message news:gvael8$m3i$1@news.spamcop.net... > anon wrote: >> When I click on start -> change users - my account is the only one >> shown - NO ADMINISTRATOR account. >> >> When I try to crate an administrator account - error says it already >> exists. >> >> How do I get admin to display in the list of accounts (guest which is >> active is also not displayed?) > > Is this Vista? NO it is XP > > Start an administrator shell. (Right-click the "command prompt" item on > the start menu, and select "run as administrator".) Then type: > > net user administrator /active:yes > > -- > Kenneth Brody From me at privacy.net Sun May 24 14:15:13 2009 From: me at privacy.net (anon) Date: Sun May 24 14:20:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: SOMEONE H E L P!!!! io system verification error References: Message-ID: "Ant" wrote in message news:gva54c$pig$1@news.spamcop.net... > "anon" wrote: > >> A. Typed extract on the cd - not found. > > Sorry, my mistake, it's called expand.exe and should be in the i386 > directory on CD. Thanks - found it. Now I have to figure out the exact path I want to enter. > >> B. Checked cabs not found. > > That's odd. On my system b57xp32.sys is in driver.cab and usbuhci.sys > is in sp2.cab > > I only have two folders in my cab folder both are seven digit numbers. From user at domain.invalid Sun May 24 23:49:48 2009 From: user at domain.invalid (Farelf) Date: Sun May 24 23:50:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: SOMEONE H E L P!!!! io system verification error In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: anon wrote: > > > "Ant" wrote in message > news:gva54c$pig$1@news.spamcop.net... >> "anon" wrote: >> >>> A. Typed extract on the cd - not found. >> >> Sorry, my mistake, it's called expand.exe and should be in the i386 >> directory on CD. > > Thanks - found it. > > Now I have to figure out the exact path I want to enter. > >> >>> B. Checked cabs not found. >> >> That's odd. On my system b57xp32.sys is in driver.cab and usbuhci.sys >> is in sp2.cab >> >> > > I only have two folders in my cab folder both are seven digit numbers. > > (Recent XP home) I have usbehci.sys on C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers Size: 29.5 KB (30,208 bytes) Size on disk: 32.0 KB (32,768 bytes) Also on C:\WINDOWS\ServicePackFiles\i386 Presumed previous versions on (like) C:\WINDOWS\system32\ReinstallBackups\0006\DriverFiles\i386 (and \007\ etc.) I have USBUHCI.SY_ on C:\WINDOWS\I386 Size: 10.9 KB (11,188 bytes) Size on disk: 12.0 KB (12,288 bytes) I don't have the other one. From me at privacy.net Thu May 28 19:40:07 2009 From: me at privacy.net (anon) Date: Thu May 28 19:45:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] crate adm account. Message-ID: How do I create an adm account? Win xp When I try, error appears saying it already exists. Adm is not on log-in list! Or how do I make it appear in the list since it says it exists. From user at domain.invalid Thu May 28 23:53:04 2009 From: user at domain.invalid (Farelf) Date: Thu May 28 23:55:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: crate adm account. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: anon wrote: > How do I create an adm account? > > Win xp > > When I try, error appears saying it already exists. > > Adm is not on log-in list! > > Or how do I make it appear in the list since it says it exists. Does this process work? http://ask-leo.com/how_do_i_get_administrative_privileges_on_windows_xp.html From me at privacy.net Fri May 29 13:10:42 2009 From: me at privacy.net (anon) Date: Fri May 29 13:15:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: crate adm account. References: Message-ID: "Farelf" wrote in message news:gvnm6q$r8a$1@news.spamcop.net... > anon wrote: >> How do I create an adm account? >> >> Win xp >> >> When I try, error appears saying it already exists. >> >> Adm is not on log-in list! >> >> Or how do I make it appear in the list since it says it exists. > > Does this process work? > > http://ask-leo.com/how_do_i_get_administrative_privileges_on_windows_xp.html NO tried that and error says adm ALREADY present. How do I get the adm to show on the logon screen? From MikeE at ster.invalid Fri May 29 13:28:47 2009 From: MikeE at ster.invalid (Mike Easter) Date: Fri May 29 13:30:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: crate adm account. References: Message-ID: anon wrote: >>> Or how do I make it appear in the list since it says it exists. > How do I get the adm to show on the logon screen? http://windowsxp.mvps.org/admins.htm TweakUI or regedit but... For Windows XP Home Edition - While you can configure Windows XP Home Edition to show Administrator account in the Welcome Screen, you cannot login as Administrator in Normal mode. Visit the following link for more information: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=290109 Error Message: Unable to Log You on Because of an Account Restriction -- Mike Easter kibitzer, not SC admin From me at privacy.net Sat May 30 14:41:00 2009 From: me at privacy.net (anon) Date: Sat May 30 14:45:03 2009 Subject: [Scgeeks] Re: crate adm account. References: Message-ID: "Mike Easter" wrote in message news:gvp606$ee1$1@news.spamcop.net... > anon wrote: > >>>> Or how do I make it appear in the list since it says it exists. > >> How do I get the adm to show on the logon screen? > > http://windowsxp.mvps.org/admins.htm > > TweakUI or regedit but... Did have it, but it disappeared. Have reinstalled it. > > For Windows XP Home Edition - While you can configure Windows XP Home > Edition to show Administrator account in the Welcome Screen, you cannot > login as Administrator in Normal mode. Visit the following link for more > information: http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=290109 Error Message: > Unable to Log You on Because of an Account Restriction > > Question - If I login as adm in safe mode, what about the DVD drive? I think I might be able to READ a disk but I need to FORMAT a DVD. I am using DLA (drive letter access - drag and drop.) Is that function available in safe mode? > > -- > Mike Easter > kibitzer, not SC admin >