From asterix at no_where.net Thu Sep 1 01:59:01 2005 From: asterix at no_where.net (Asterix) Date: Wed Aug 31 19:00:44 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: LOL.. F*cking, Austria References: Message-ID: <1h26qom.1w59ad51g1fe6lN%asterix@no_where.net> DougW wrote: > US Highway 69 signs are also collectable > and Highway 666 is very collectable since they renamed the road. Seems > some religious nuts got offended. The God nuts or the Satan nuts ? :) -- I recommend Macs to my friends, and Windows machines to those whom I don't mind billing by the hour From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Thu Sep 1 01:17:45 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Wed Aug 31 20:20:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: sounds bloody awful References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in news:df5ghq$afl$1@news.spamcop.net: > Where's my vodka & tonic Want a twist of lemon with that? ;-) From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Thu Sep 1 04:32:57 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Wed Aug 31 23:35:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Does anyone know if Cat is OK? References: Message-ID: Cat wrote in news:df5s4u$ha5$1 @news.spamcop.net: > Aww, thanks for your concern. I'm doing ok, and my area in the northern > part of Mississippi wasn't hit too hard. Will add my comments that I am also glad to hear things are "not so bad". ;-) Hope grandparents are ok also. From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Thu Sep 1 09:15:22 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Thu Sep 1 03:20:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If anyone doubts we're being gouged on gas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: indigo wrote: > Heidi wrote: > >>"indigo" wrote in message >>news:df2hk4$dq4$1@news.spamcop.net... >> >>>Well, that morning one qualified as "going back to sleep", for one >>>thing. I was out like a light. My afternoon naps are more like >>>dozing, I can still kinda hear the TV every once in a while but I'm >>>partially asleep. >> >>Oh nonononnooooo... by International Napping Rules, 'going back to >>sleep' is BEFORE breakfast, after you eat breakfast, especially if >>you go OUT for breakfast, it's a NAP, grampaw..... > > The INR also states that naps are to be taken on couches, settees, chairs, > etc. -- any "nap" taken in bed under the covers falls under the definition > of "going back to sleep" :-P But you are missing the whole controversy that the founding fathers had at the INR convention. If you look at the meeting notes, there was a raging debate over such issues as accounting for the relative comfort of your couch (or if you just have a love seat and then your legs would have to stick up while you nap making napping in bed more likely), whether you got dressed for the day before you went back to bed to take a nap, how many hours you had been up before you took the nap with anything after noon forcing it into the nap category (unless you work overnight shifts then you have to skew the times to find your normal sleeping hours and the acceptable napping hours), and just so many more. It isn't such a simple thing. From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Thu Sep 1 09:22:24 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Thu Sep 1 03:25:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Katrina In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "Mr K. Mean" <35zyuhr02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message > news:df3j2h$c6$1@news.spamcop.net... > >>Sylvesterthekat wrote: >> >>>ROFL@snouts >>> >>>oh man, my sides are hurtin' now >>> >>>I know what he's going to say. The snouts don't smell of bananas LOL >> >>Well, they don't smell of bananas because they ARE NOT bananas. They >>are bits of pigs. If there was a special banana flavored sausage, then >>I would probably avoid them by a far margin too. > > What do you mean 'probably'?! I would definitely avoid banana flavoured > sausages! And sausages made of pig snouts too for that matter! I mean probably in the sense that it would be gross and it would be very likely that I would avoid them. So, I would say like 99%. I mean you have to allow for strange borderline cases. I mean what if I was in a coma and I didn't specially specify in my instructions that I was to avoid bananas and for some reason they decided to give me banana flavored sausage. Sure it isn't very likely, but who knows, it might happen, so I say probably then. From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Thu Sep 1 09:35:09 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Thu Sep 1 03:40:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If anyone doubts we're being gouged on gas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "Mr K. Mean" <35zyuhr02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message > news:df3lq5$28e$1@news.spamcop.net... > >>I've been pretty happy now that I have discovered I can get about 3/4th >>of the way to work just riding on a canal path. It is slightly out of >>the way but I bypass two of the really bad intersections and roundabouts >>which makes a huge difference. > > Excellent! It must be far more pleasant along the canal too (no noise > pollution cars) Great, now I hear there is a group of 9 or 10 Bengali youths who have been hanging around on the canal by Victoria Park and they seem to enjoy trying to push people into the water. But the canal has its own problems too. The path is pretty narrow, since it was designed for towing barges and not bike and pedestrian traffic. It makes me a little nervous when somebody comes the other way and you have to lean to the side so that they don't hit you. Then you get those WTF moments where like yesterday, and some guy was coming the other way hauling ass down a hill and I don't know how this guy doesn't hit dozens of people every day since he didn't even bother scooching over to his own side. What an ass. But all in all, I would much rather get hit by a bike than a double decker bus. >>It has all become pretty political here considering the overwhelming >>congestion. At least the law considers bikes part of traffic and with >>as much right to the roads as cars. The funny thing is that a bike on >>average can ride faster than the average motor vehicle speed, so nobody >>can seriously claim that bikes are impeding traffic. > > Unfortunately, even though the law considers you have rights, the drivers > don't, so be careful! It does help that prevailing traffic speeds are pretty slow and it is practically impossible for a car to ever go much over 20 at any point. But still, I've noticed that I've started to develop my own prejudices about which ones are scarier. Like the people who drive the white vans, I usually give them a little extra room. From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Thu Sep 1 09:37:23 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Thu Sep 1 03:40:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Latest justification for the Iraq War In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2005/08/31/bush_gives_new_reason_for_iraq_war/ > > >CORONADO, Calif. -- President Bush answered growing antiwar protests >yesterday with a fresh reason for US troops to continue fighting in >Iraq: protection of the country's vast oil fields, which he said would >otherwise fall under the control of terrorist extremists. Hasn't this already happened? Oh, he means those other terrorists, not the neocons. From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Thu Sep 1 10:02:41 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Thu Sep 1 04:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: JohnL wrote: > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in > >>>it will be close to $300 a month to heat our house, and it's only a >>>1100 sq.ft. home with pretty good insulation and the temp kept around >>>68. We're NOT going any lower in the temp, not with her back >>>problems. >> >>i'd freeze if I came to stay with you LOL >> > Nah, you get used to it. > And besides, when you come in from way below zero temps, 68 feels just > fine, if a little too warm. :) Didn't we already have this discussion last year? I seem to remember Charles waging war with his officemates over the thermostat. But if if the weather outside is quite cold it feels more normal to have the inside temperature a bit lower just like it feels more normal to have it warmer inside when it is hot outside. I find the extreme temperature differences (90 outside, highly air conditioned inside) much worse than when the temperatures are closer. From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Thu Sep 1 10:04:23 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Thu Sep 1 04:05:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: sounds bloody awful In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: indigo wrote: > > Don't like that one. Existing properties should be grandfathered in, it's > not their fault the government is run by idiots. Doesn't democracy mean exactly that, that it is their fault? From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Thu Sep 1 09:09:14 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Thu Sep 1 04:10:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Neocon sex education server References: Message-ID: "Bcs1" wrote in news:dev7l0$dj5$1@news.spamcop.net: > > ummm NEXT!! > > LOL > > Is there any more? :-) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Thu Sep 1 09:09:39 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Thu Sep 1 04:10:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Neocon sex education server References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in news:dev94a$eho$1 @news.spamcop.net: > > > > > Thanks for sharing that there Red LOL > > Sure thing.. anything to add to the list. :-) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Thu Sep 1 09:10:04 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Thu Sep 1 04:15:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Neocon sex education server References: Message-ID: Charles <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in news:Xns96C1CAA83A5AETheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61: > No way it was me! It was Redstone > ! > >> mystical fold > > Mystical fold? Uh. Ok. Why not.. In some ways.. it is mystical, is it not? :-) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Thu Sep 1 09:15:06 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Thu Sep 1 04:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Yet another form of profiling... References: Message-ID: Pete Stephenson wrote in news:pete+usenet-A17FBC.16050031082005@news.cesmail.net: > > All this "patriot act" stuff is nonsense. They already have enough > information to do whatever it is that they do...jumping through more > hoops won't really make much of a difference. > > Wouldn't it make a bit more sense, assuming the Feds are already going > to monitor the financial market (or require banks to do so), to simply > look for suspicious behavior, rather than individuals? > > I mean, if Joe Snuffy Terrorist has his personal checking account > where he pays his cellphone bill every month or something, is that > really a big deal? Look for the large, suspicious transactions. > > Then again, any bad guy worth their salt would engage in cash-only, > untraceable transactions. > More likely they'd use off-shore banks where there isn't such close monitoring. I think the bank Dwayne was trying to work with was being lazy. From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Thu Sep 1 10:17:16 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Thu Sep 1 04:20:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Dateline: Paris In-Reply-To: References: <1125406264.857737.50960@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: indigo wrote: > D.F. Manno wrote: > Had Hitler decided > >>to invade, Britain would likely have fallen. > > Hell, all he had to do was keep bombing the RAF facilities instead of > turning his sights on London and Britain was his for the taking. Or made a better tactical choice and kept pursuing the BEF instead of giving them a few extra days to escape at Dunkirk. That would effectively left Britain without an army and pretty open to invasion. From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Thu Sep 1 09:19:04 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Thu Sep 1 04:20:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: LOL.. F*cking, Austria References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in news:df4so2$s6f$1 @news.spamcop.net: > http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050828/wl_uk_afp/britainaustriaoffbeat > > They ought to capitalize on it.. Make some signs and sell it in the square. If the British tourists want to spend money to buy it, why not? More money in the pocket of the townsfolk, IMO. From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Thu Sep 1 09:21:56 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Thu Sep 1 04:25:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Some folks just get luck!!! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:df4mkp$o4s$1@news.spamcop.net: > >> Pete ... eat your heart out. > > You deserve it FP, with all the time and resources you devote to helping > others. > > I second that. :-) From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Thu Sep 1 10:22:59 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Thu Sep 1 04:25:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: LOL.. F*cking, Austria In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Heidi wrote: > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:df4so2$s6f$1@news.spamcop.net... > >>http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050828/wl_uk_afp/britainaustriaoffbeat > > > I was actually hoping there's be an explanation of what F*cking meant in > that language (is there such a thing as Austrian, or do they speak Swiss or > German?) I hear you. And I was annoyed they didn't say the name of the town anywhere. I mean let's call a fuck a fuck. But anyways, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fucking,_Austria named after a man from the 6th century called Focko. "Ing" is an old Germanic suffix meaning "people"; thus Fucking, in this case, means "place of Focko's people". From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Thu Sep 1 09:25:29 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Thu Sep 1 04:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:df4n98$ohe$1@news.spamcop.net: > > Why just on the east coast? I'd think the whole country is going to > suffer until they get those refineries up and running again (and the > port reopened). Everyone is going to suffer quite a bit from the > shipping and transportation infrastructure damage. > I think it is due to the fact that the eastcoast get its gasoline from oil refineries around the Alabama/Lousiana area. (There is a pipeline that goes from there and heads WAY up to the northeast.) In CA, we have our own refineries here.. however, that fact has not put much of a damper on the prices here. From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Thu Sep 1 10:27:04 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Thu Sep 1 04:30:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Dateline: Paris In-Reply-To: References: <1125406264.857737.50960@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Heidi wrote: > "Neil" wrote in message > news:df4v57$u3g$1@news.spamcop.net... > >>That's all. The towels on beach/pool chairs is enough. ;-) > > I flew to Hawaii next to a German couple, I swear they were two of the most > obnoxious people I've ever met. Complained constantly had to get up and go > to the bathroom about every half hour, rude, pushy, demanding, I was looking > for those little pillows so I could suffocate them... that was the longest > damn flight EVER. Oddly enough just about every German I've met since is > exactly the same way. Not that I'm prejudiced, it's just my experience..... I sit next to the German division people in the office. They are like the nicest people in the office. I've gotten so much chocolate and little snacks from them. You know, all the people from my division mostly ignore me, so I hang out with the Germans and the people from some other division who work for the parent company. From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Thu Sep 1 09:27:08 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Thu Sep 1 04:30:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in news:df52av$gu$1@news.spamcop.net: > > that's what polarfleece is for, my dear.....LL Bean has the greatest > polarfleece lined jeans, I LIVED in those all winter. > > Gee, you must look indistinguishable from sheep. Can you go "Baaa" too. LOL! :-D From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Thu Sep 1 09:32:48 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Thu Sep 1 04:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:df5766$452$1@news.spamcop.net: >> >> Sorry Indi, you're not my type! >> > > And sorrily, you live too far away. Your loss ;-) > > > And you bust my ass about statements like this? Geez. :-) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Thu Sep 1 09:39:48 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Thu Sep 1 04:40:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in news:df54n3$29q$1@news.spamcop.net: > > Anyone using fuel oil ... bio diesel works just a well. Only draw back > is the neighborhood knows where you got the oil > > It's too bad that there isn't yet a way to make this more practical to the population at large. (Not enough restaurants to meet the daily demand.) I like the idea of using frenchfry oil to fuel a car. (What about used BBQ sauce too?) :-) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Thu Sep 1 09:45:09 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Thu Sep 1 04:45:47 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:df5780$483$1 @news.spamcop.net: > > > Frog Prince wrote: >> Reports of $4.99 / gal self serve in Atlanta. >> >> Local stations are going dry with no date when they are to expect new >> shipments. > > Do I hear the word "rationing" starting to creep into this thread? > > > Here we go again.. the jolly 70s is back. Except that instead of the old full sized cars, it is now the SUVs that took its place. Honda Civic anyone? From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Thu Sep 1 09:52:34 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Thu Sep 1 04:55:31 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Does anyone know if Cat is OK? References: Message-ID: JohnL wrote in news:Xns96C3DB389CB5Ainnewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61: > Cat wrote in news:df5s4u$ha5$1 > @news.spamcop.net: > >> Aww, thanks for your concern. I'm doing ok, and my area in the >> northern part of Mississippi wasn't hit too hard. > > Will add my comments that I am also glad to hear things are "not so > bad". ;-) > Hope grandparents are ok also. It is good that the worst is over. (And a nice added quality is that hurricanes lose a crap load of destructive power after hitting land.) My work is looking for volunteers to go down and help with the relief effort. I'm considering going, but the wife dosen't like the idea. From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Thu Sep 1 09:55:24 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Thu Sep 1 05:00:18 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: I found a spider in my grapes..... References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in news:df5er0$97a$1@news.spamcop.net: > > I have them in my garden every summer - I like to throw bugs into the > web to watch them spin them up into a cocoon and save them for later. > Not a pleasant thing to come face to face with when you bend over > weeding, however... > > Some odd reason, I have a bunch of baby spiders around the apartment here. (Seen them around last summer, but they disappear after the onset of fall.) I think they keep the ant population under control. From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Thu Sep 1 10:01:33 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Thu Sep 1 05:05:18 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Dateline: Paris References: <1125406264.857737.50960@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in news:df4vph$ugf$1@news.spamcop.net: > > "Neil" wrote in message > news:df4v57$u3g$1@news.spamcop.net... >> >> "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message >> news:df4rnn$rc4$1@news.spamcop.net... >> > >> > Personally I don't have any ill feelings towards the French. >> > Perhaps if > I >> > had lived during the war years I might have. What's your beef with >> > the Germans, other than their beach chair hogging activities? >> > >> >> That's all. The towels on beach/pool chairs is enough. ;-) > > ROFL. So never mind that they were the ones that started the war, it > was worse of the frenchies to surrender apparently LOL > > LOL! Still love to see the hearty rivally between all you guys (Brits vs. French vs. Germans.) That's how I can get the best wines out of the lot of you. Such fierce competition.. :-) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Thu Sep 1 10:03:03 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Thu Sep 1 05:05:30 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Dateline: Paris References: <1125406264.857737.50960@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:df5715$445$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > D.F. Manno wrote: > Had Hitler decided >> to invade, Britain would likely have fallen. > > Hell, all he had to do was keep bombing the RAF facilities instead of > turning his sights on London and Britain was his for the taking. > > Hitler made quite a number of tactical errors.. to which the Allied forces took advatange of. From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Thu Sep 1 10:29:10 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Thu Sep 1 05:30:27 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Is it just me, or is this man trying to cover something with his SO?? References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in news:df01g9$tbu$2 @news.spamcop.net: > >> She visits us about every other federal holiday weekend. When she is >> here she goes out to the bars and spends the night with a different guy. >> She had to resort to taking a picture of each of them so that she can >> tell them apart. > > LOL, oh boy, she obviously sees her share of action then! > > > She is probably a good performer then to keep the guys interested. From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Thu Sep 1 10:33:23 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Thu Sep 1 05:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's HOT!! References: Message-ID: JohnL wrote in news:Xns96C14EC9322B4innewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61: > > Nah, no skiing for me, I'd probably break my legs the first time out. > > (now sitting by the fire... that's another story ) > You break your legs sitting by a fire? Does this have to do with some kind of yoga thing your wife is teaching you? :-) From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 07:12:13 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Thu Sep 1 07:10:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Does anyone know if Cat is OK? References: Message-ID: "Cat" wrote in message news:df5sik$hje$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Yeah, it was an interesting experience, although definitely not nearly > as bad as the coast got hit. I'm about a 4-5 hour drive inland from the > coast in Starkville, MS, (home of the MSU bulldogs! sorry, couldn't > resist adding that one) and my parents are in Columbus, the next town to > the east of here. My husband will probably be leaving next week as an American Red Cross Volunteer. Could I give him your name & contact info in case he goes anywhere near Starkville? It would be nice to have a local contact. You can email me at liza25jane hotmail if you want to. Miss Betsy From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 08:26:37 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Neil) Date: Thu Sep 1 07:30:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Dateline: Paris References: <1125406264.857737.50960@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" <35zyuhr02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:df6e0p$qn1$1@news.spamcop.net... > Heidi wrote: > > > "Neil" wrote in message > > news:df4v57$u3g$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > >>That's all. The towels on beach/pool chairs is enough. ;-) > > > > I flew to Hawaii next to a German couple, I swear they were two of the most > > obnoxious people I've ever met. Complained constantly had to get up and go > > to the bathroom about every half hour, rude, pushy, demanding, I was looking > > for those little pillows so I could suffocate them... that was the longest > > damn flight EVER. Oddly enough just about every German I've met since is > > exactly the same way. Not that I'm prejudiced, it's just my experience..... > > I sit next to the German division people in the office. They are like > the nicest people in the office. I've gotten so much chocolate and > little snacks from them. Bribes. ;-) From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 10:02:25 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Sep 1 09:05:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Is it just me, or is this man trying to cover something with his SO?? References: Message-ID: "David Dean" wrote in message news:ozchzhq02-F73813.07280601092005@frylock.local... > In article , > Redstone wrote: > > > She is probably a good performer then to keep the guys interested. > > I just haven't figured out how they get interested. Maybe she's offering what men always want - no-strings sex. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 10:08:19 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Sep 1 09:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If anyone doubts we're being gouged on gas References: Message-ID: Pete Stephenson wrote: > > The 80s designs are nice and rugged. The late-90s and -00s are not > quite as rugged looking, seemingly made out of the same sheet metal > as most other cars these days. Yeah, his is built like a tank. It feels like the body is made from 1/4" steel or something..... From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 10:17:54 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Sep 1 09:20:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If anyone doubts we're being gouged on gas References: Message-ID: Pete Stephenson wrote: > In article , > "indigo" wrote: > > > That would insinuate that BP, Amaco, ExxonMobil, etc, all get their > > gas from the same pipeline and terminal, ergo it's all the same > > gas. I don't believe it. > > They do. The father of one of my friends works at one of the big > refineies here in the Bay Area. All the different tankers for all the > different brands show up at the same fill-points. > > It literally is the same gas, which is why I don't hesitate to buy the > cheapest stuff around. :) Huh. So if HeyBub isn't pulling facts out of his ass again the additives are what differentiate the gas from each brand, I guess. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 10:19:07 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Sep 1 09:20:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If anyone doubts we're being gouged on gas References: Message-ID: Heidi wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:df4c08$gu2$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > The INR also states that naps are to be taken on couches, settees, > > chairs, etc. -- any "nap" taken in bed under the covers falls under > > the definition of "going back to sleep" :-P > > Does not, you have the OLD rulebook, that was changed last year. :Þ I don't subscribe to those "new nap" theories :-P From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 10:22:19 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Sep 1 09:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: I found a spider in my grapes..... References: Message-ID: "DougW" wrote in message news:df58lf$53u$1@news.spamcop.net... >> It is a Golden Orb spider. A very benifical critter but slightly out of its > normal habitat range. Fed it a few bugs and named it Spot. To date Spot is > the largest web spinning spider I've seen. Actually it looks more like this: Argiope aurantia - Black and Yellow Garden Spider http://www.cirrusimage.com/spider_argiope_aurantia.htm From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 10:26:30 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Sep 1 09:30:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If anyone doubts we're being gouged on gas References: Message-ID: Mr K. Mean wrote: > > But you are missing the whole controversy that the founding fathers > had at the INR convention. If you look at the meeting notes, there > was a raging debate over such issues as accounting for the relative > comfort of your couch (or if you just have a love seat and then your > legs would have to stick up while you nap making napping in bed more > likely), whether you got dressed for the day before you went back to > bed to take a nap, how many hours you had been up before you took the > nap with anything after noon forcing it into the nap category (unless > you work overnight shifts then you have to skew the times to find > your normal sleeping hours and the acceptable napping hours), and > just so many more. It isn't such a simple thing. Minor issues. Under the covers in the buff has always qualified as "sleep", unless there are two of you, of course ;-) From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 10:29:35 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Sep 1 09:30:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If anyone doubts we're being gouged on gas References: Message-ID: David Dean wrote: > In article , > "Mr K. Mean" <35zyuhr02@sneakemail.com> wrote: > > > It does help that prevailing traffic speeds are pretty slow and it > > is practically impossible for a car to ever go much over 20 at any > > point. > > Well, that is advantageous. I was passed by hundreds of cars doing > 70 mph that didn't give any concern to the fact that I was there. Not > fun. Where in the hell is there a road where it is legal to ride a bike next to cars going that fast? From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 10:30:32 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Sep 1 09:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Latest justification for the Iraq War References: Message-ID: Pete Stephenson wrote: > In article , "HeyBub" > wrote: > > > Japan invaded southeast Asia for oil. Hitler invaded Russia for > > oil. Sadaam invaded Kuwait for oil. > > Probably not the best of comparisons...but I see your point. Oh puhleaze.....and how have the leaders that lead those invasions been judged by history? From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 10:36:25 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Sep 1 09:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: Heidi wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:df575d$44s$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > Ick, you go to bed in wet fleece? I need to shower in the morning > > to wake up anyway......and get rid of my gumby-like pillow hair. > > No, you bozo, I dry off first, then I put my jammies on. That's NOT what you said! From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 10:42:25 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Sep 1 09:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: Redstone wrote: > "indigo" wrote in > news:df5766$452$1@news.spamcop.net: > > >> > >> Sorry Indi, you're not my type! > >> > > > > And sorrily, you live too far away. Your loss ;-) > > > > > > > > > And you bust my ass about statements like this? Geez. :-) At least I'm not sneaking around behind everyone's back having secret chat room sessions! From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 10:50:08 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Sep 1 09:55:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Is it just me, or is this man trying to cover something with his SO?? References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "David Dean" wrote in message > news:ozchzhq02-F73813.07280601092005@frylock.local... > > In article , > > Redstone wrote: > > > > > She is probably a good performer then to keep the guys interested. > > > > I just haven't figured out how they get interested. > > Maybe she's offering what men always want - no-strings sex. Some of us *do* have standards, you know.....this is a rather large woman we're talking about, right? From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 10:49:20 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Sep 1 09:55:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Dateline: Paris References: <1125406264.857737.50960@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" <35zyuhr02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:df6e0p$qn1$1@news.spamcop.net... > > I sit next to the German division people in the office. They are like > the nicest people in the office. I've gotten so much chocolate and > little snacks from them. You know, all the people from my division > mostly ignore me, so I hang out with the Germans and the people from > some other division who work for the parent company. Well, we'll see how nice they are. Try to wrangle some of those chocolates filled with cognac, then I'll believe you..... The Rents had a box of those from their German friends sitting on the counter while they were off in Florida one winter. They also had a red squirrel who got into the house and made a meal out of them, paper and foil shredded everywhere, I was surprised he wasn't gorked out all over the rug sleeping it off. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 10:53:27 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Sep 1 09:55:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Is it just me, or is this man trying to cover something with his SO?? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:df70ug$5vj$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Some of us *do* have standards, you know.....this is a rather large woman > we're talking about, right? If men can do it with farm animals, an overweight woman isn't that big of a deal. As long as it's dark and there's a hole to stick it in, most men wouldn't care if she's uglier than a hedge fence. You can deny it, but men know it's true, no one wants to say it out loud.... From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 10:59:12 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Sep 1 10:00:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Is it just me, or is this man trying to cover something with his SO?? References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:df70ug$5vj$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > Some of us *do* have standards, you know.....this is a rather large > > woman we're talking about, right? > > If men can do it with farm animals, an overweight woman isn't that > big of a deal. Speaking of which, John Stewart did a brief story on a guy who was recently killed while being, uhm, "mounted" by a stallion. Ugh......massive internal injury. Now THAT'S sick! As long as it's dark and there's a hole to stick it > in, most men wouldn't care if she's uglier than a hedge fence. You > can deny it, but men know it's true, no one wants to say it out > loud.... True of some men, I just meant it ain't true for guys like me, no matter how long it's been. From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 11:20:48 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Thu Sep 1 10:25:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Does anyone know if Cat is OK? References: Message-ID: "Redstone" | My work is looking for volunteers to go down and help with the relief | effort. I'm considering going, but the wife doesn't like the idea. If you are planning to be anywhere in or near NOLA: Unless you can be POSITIVE you will have a safe environment I'd recommend against the trip. You will be WITHOUT communications, any way to provide for your own needs and unable to leave without assistance. Not to mention that the area has been classed bio-hazardous. I've two nephews and two cousins still in New Orleans (the rest of the extended family has gotten out). FWIW they are big enough and ugly enough to put the fear of God in most anyone they might encounter. They currently travel only in twos, packing, rarely after dark and only to the extent necessary. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 11:32:11 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Sep 1 10:35:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:df704s$58g$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Heidi wrote: > > No, you bozo, I dry off first, then I put my jammies on. > > That's NOT what you said! There's such a thing as 'goes without saying', unless you commonly put your clothes on while still wet...... From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 11:33:38 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Sep 1 10:35:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns96C3993AB2EFAinnewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... > "Spamvireslayer" wrote in news:df55rj$3ba$1 > @news.spamcop.net: > > > Sears carries Lands End stuff, that's where I got mine. > > Hmmm, and we're going to Sears next week. > Thanks for the tip! I just looked online and they don't have any showing yet, probably within a few weeks. Last year I bought four polartec tees for riding in the winter, but I ended up throwing them on first thing in the morning to walk the dogs and never took them off. Very cozy! From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 11:38:11 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Thu Sep 1 10:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Private air view of the gulf coast Message-ID: Someone asked about Pass Christian and the sounding areas. This is third hand from a relative who has flown over the area. We have property on the very west end of the coast highway. It's hard to ID anything or even know were you are relative to what was there before, so the status of our place is not fixed but most everything between the gulf and the rail road is splinters on the west side of Bay St. Louis. Pass Christiana to Biloxi is much the same. Some buildings *appear* to be whole from the air but only an on ground visit can validate that hope. By way of up date. All of the family's homes in New Orleans/Slidell/Mandeville (both on the North side of the lake) are in good shape. No power, water or other utilities but otherwise habitable. Extended family is scattered over 5 states. One on one support from perfect strangers is amazing. By way of example my 25 y.o niece, her son, elderly grandmother and grand aunt were separated from the rest of her group in traffic. They ended up south of Houston TX. out of gas, out of money (long story short: cell phone, ATM and credit cards did not work.) A couple saw them, handed them a prepaid gas card, found them a motel which they prepaid two days, came back later with boxes of food and toiletries and a $25.00 pre paid credit cards / family for all who were stranded at the motel. Motel did not know they were escapees and when they found out changed the billing to reflect a prepaid 4 days vs. 2 days. Apparently they were from a local church south of Houston (FWIW that area had been hammered by hurricanes in the past and was the recipient of similar assistance) Once they were assured all needs were satisfied the church group simply disappeared, no names, no church name, no phone numbers. Reminds me of the Samaritan of the Bible. From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Thu Sep 1 15:38:55 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Thu Sep 1 10:40:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's HOT!! References: Message-ID: Redstone wrote in news:Xns96C41A05814A8tinlc@216.154.195.61: > You break your legs sitting by a fire? Does this have to do with some > kind of yoga thing your wife is teaching you? :-) > > I don't remember if it was in a commercial or a movie or whatever, but there was a scene in a ski lodge where this guy was sitting by a fire with his leg in a cast. He got so much sympathy from the women and after it was all over, he took off the fake cast and walked away. THAT is as close to a broken leg as I would like to get! ;-) From pete+usenet at heypete.com Thu Sep 1 08:40:20 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Thu Sep 1 10:40:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If anyone doubts we're being gouged on gas References: Message-ID: In article , "indigo" wrote: > Huh. So if HeyBub isn't pulling facts out of his ass again the additives are > what differentiate the gas from each brand, I guess. The state usually has certain minimum chemical characteristics of the fuel. All fuels must meet these characteristics, such as burning rate, octane, volatility, and a minimum amount of detergent content. It wouldn't be good to buy gas that's tougher to ignite at one station, only to have it not be able to run your car. Since there's so many cars, it makes sense to have a standardized type of gasoline that will power them. All the commercials I see on the TV for the various fuels with additives (i.e. Chevron with Techron, Shell V-Power, etc.) are advertising a higher-than-minimum detergent content that cleans out your engine better. Any "performance gains" would probably be due to having a slightly cleaner engine, not because of any uber-fuel. -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Thu Sep 1 15:40:42 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Thu Sep 1 10:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in news:df73hl$7l7$1@news.spamcop.net: > I just looked online and they don't have any showing yet, probably > within a few weeks. Last year I bought four polartec tees for riding > in the winter, but I ended up throwing them on first thing in the > morning to walk the dogs and never took them off. Very cozy! You mean you have been wearing FOUR polartec tee shirts since last winter??!! Don't they smell a little by now?? From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 11:41:19 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Sep 1 10:45:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns96C4584811Finnewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... > "Spamvireslayer" wrote in > news:df73hl$7l7$1@news.spamcop.net: > > You mean you have been wearing FOUR polartec tee shirts since last > winter??!! Don't they smell a little by now?? > > OH HAR HAR HAR HAR....... I did actually only wear them one at a time.....and it only took one time at the barn to get smelly! From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 11:43:05 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Sep 1 10:45:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:df704s$58g$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > > > Heidi wrote: > > > No, you bozo, I dry off first, then I put my jammies on. > > > > That's NOT what you said! > > There's such a thing as 'goes without saying', unless you commonly > put your clothes on while still wet...... Nuh-uh. How else can this sentence be parsed? "Well, I shower in hot water, and when I get out I jump right into my angel fleece jammies" Liar liar pants on fire. From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Thu Sep 1 15:44:44 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Thu Sep 1 10:45:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:df741p$7vk$1@news.spamcop.net: > > Nuh-uh. How else can this sentence be parsed? > "Well, I shower in hot water, and when I get out I jump right into my > angel fleece jammies" > > Liar liar pants on fire. But if she was wet when she put the pants on, then how could they be on fire? Oh, never mind. :P From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 12:03:06 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Thu Sep 1 11:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Some folks just get luck!!! References: Message-ID: "indigo" >> Pete ... eat your heart out. > > You deserve it FP, with all the time and resources you devote to helping > others. Thanks for the flowers and Yes it is kinda nice to have some free toys to play with especially when it will cut my transport cost by 60-80% (we can product bio-diesel for ~ $0.80 /gal and that truck should be 25-40 MPG) From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 12:08:18 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Thu Sep 1 11:15:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: sounds bloody awful References: Message-ID: "indigo" | | > I just read that they're evacuating EVERYONE out of NO and taking | > them to the Houston Astrodome. Let's hope they've got someone lined | > up to keep things clean there! | | Good idea, I read it's getting really bad down there -- some looter shot a | cop in the head yesterday. They need all the NG units they can get in there, | fully armed, ASAP. Unfortunately the roads are so clogged with debris it | seems you can't actually get into most of the city by truck. The cop in that incident had a nick on the cheek. In another instance there was rifle fire on a police 'station' cops returned fire the bad guy is dead. They are taking those at the SuperDome to Houston. Anyone else leaving NOLA ??? From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 12:37:35 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Sep 1 11:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns96C458F75D226innewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... > But if she was wet when she put the pants on, then how could they be on > fire? > Oh, never mind. :P Pay no attention to him, he's being a maroon...... From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Thu Sep 1 16:39:32 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Thu Sep 1 11:40:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in news:df779i$9mf$1 @news.spamcop.net: > > "JohnL" wrote in message > news:Xns96C458F75D226innewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... >> But if she was wet when she put the pants on, then how could they be on >> fire? >> Oh, never mind. :P > > Pay no attention to him, he's being a maroon...... > > > That's okay, it's still an interesting exercise. ;-) From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 12:53:22 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Sep 1 11:55:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns96C4624155F54innewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... > That's okay, it's still an interesting exercise. ;-) Pulling one's pants on while still wet IS an exercise.....in futility! From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 13:04:16 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Sep 1 12:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "JohnL" wrote in message > news:Xns96C458F75D226innewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... > > But if she was wet when she put the pants on, then how could they > > be on fire? > > Oh, never mind. :P > > Pay no attention to him, he's being a maroon...... At least I don't claim to put on bedclothes while I'm still dripping from the shower. From borgholio at storymind.com Thu Sep 1 11:42:46 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Thu Sep 1 13:45:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Drumroll, please. Message-ID: ROAR!!!! From pete+usenet at heypete.com Thu Sep 1 11:47:37 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Thu Sep 1 13:50:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Drumroll, please. References: Message-ID: In article , Borgholio wrote: > ROAR!!!! Not sure what you're roaring about...but I've got some of that too. Why is it that most of my stress in life involves women of some sort? Class, work, etc. I can handle...but women? Things are always wonderful for a short while, and no matter how wonderful they are, /something/ always happens that makes things hard. Very frustrating. That's all I'll say about that right now. No real sense in bitching. On a totally different note, it's my 23rd birthday on Saturday. Whee. -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From borgholio at storymind.com Thu Sep 1 12:01:51 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Thu Sep 1 14:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Drumroll, please. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Pete Stephenson wrote: > In article , > Borgholio wrote: > > >>ROAR!!!! > > > Not sure what you're roaring about...but I've got some of that too. > > Why is it that most of my stress in life involves women of some sort? > Class, work, etc. I can handle...but women? Things are always wonderful > for a short while, and no matter how wonderful they are, /something/ > always happens that makes things hard. Very frustrating. > > That's all I'll say about that right now. No real sense in bitching. > > On a totally different note, it's my 23rd birthday on Saturday. Whee. > A roar of victory for my first post in weeks. God, you must be getting old. :-P From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Thu Sep 1 19:08:36 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Thu Sep 1 14:10:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Drumroll, please. References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote in news:df7eig$cqb$1 @news.spamcop.net: > ROAR!!!! 'Bout time!!! ;-) From borgholio at storymind.com Thu Sep 1 12:10:11 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Thu Sep 1 14:15:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Drumroll, please. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: JohnL wrote: > Borgholio wrote in news:df7eig$cqb$1 > @news.spamcop.net: > > >>ROAR!!!! > > > 'Bout time!!! ;-) Yeah really. I spent an hour going through old posts when I was first able to log on. My only thought is...that woman has UGLY skin, and that was one big freaking spider! From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 15:20:09 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Sep 1 14:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Drumroll, please. References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:df7fm8$emt$1@news.spamcop.net... > > A roar of victory for my first post in weeks. God, you must be getting old. > :-P Us young'uns got it...welcome back, at last..... From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 15:47:11 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Sep 1 14:50:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:df78q1$amd$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > At least I don't claim to put on bedclothes while I'm still dripping from > the shower. You are not only a maroon, but a pedantic maroon..... that is like, so much worse.... :­Þ From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 16:06:07 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Thu Sep 1 15:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Is it just me, or is this man trying to cover something with his SO?? References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:df716a$618$1@news.spamcop.net... | | "indigo" wrote in message news:df70ug$5vj$1@news.spamcop.net... | > | > Some of us *do* have standards, you know.....this is a rather large woman | > we're talking about, right? | | If men can do it with farm animals, an overweight woman isn't that big of a deal. | As long as it's dark and there's a hole to stick it in, most men wouldn't care if | she's uglier than a hedge fence. You can deny it, but men know it's true, no one | wants to say it out loud.... How the joke go: '.. never went to bed with an ugly woman but I sure woke up with a few ...' From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 16:08:10 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Thu Sep 1 15:10:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: LOL.. F*cking, Austria References: Message-ID: "Redstone" wrote in message news:Xns96C4D6BDA1F2tinlc@216.154.195.61... | "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in news:df4so2$s6f$1 | @news.spamcop.net: | | > http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050828/wl_uk_afp/britainaustriaoffbeat | > | > | | | They ought to capitalize on it.. Make some signs and sell it in the square. | If the British tourists want to spend money to buy it, why not? More money | in the pocket of the townsfolk, IMO. Like Ginsburg (?) mailing his books from the township of Intercourse? From borgholio at storymind.com Thu Sep 1 13:17:49 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Thu Sep 1 15:20:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Drumroll, please. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "Borgholio" wrote in message > news:df7fm8$emt$1@news.spamcop.net... > >>A roar of victory for my first post in weeks. God, you must be getting old. >> :-P > > > Us young'uns got it...welcome back, at last..... > > Glad to be back! Now I forgot...which way to the chicken ranch? From borgholio at storymind.com Thu Sep 1 13:25:34 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Thu Sep 1 15:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] This falls under the category of "You have got to be fuckingshitting me..." Message-ID: http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/09/01/katrina.impact/index.html While looting is a common occurance after any major disaster, it's usually put to a stop by police or soldiers (if it's marshal law). Never before have I heard of an instance where looters actually engage in running gun-battles with armed national guardsmen...I think we better call in the regular army, this is only going to get worse. From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 17:02:25 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Thu Sep 1 17:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: This falls under the category of "You have got to be fucking shitting me..." References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:df7kj8$hg1$1@news.spamcop.net... > http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/09/01/katrina.impact/index.html > > While looting is a common occurance after any major disaster, it's usually > put to a stop by police or soldiers (if it's marshal law). Never before > have I heard of an instance where looters actually engage in running > gun-battles with armed national guardsmen...I think we better call in the > regular army, this is only going to get worse. In case you have missed it, much of the war in Afghanistan and Iraq is being waged by National Guardsmen. They /are/ the 'regular' army. Miss Betsy From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 17:56:47 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Sep 1 17:00:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Drumroll, please. References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > ROAR!!!! Hey, you're back -- welcome! And not using a proxy....interesting..... From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 17:57:55 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Sep 1 17:00:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Is it just me, or is this man trying to cover something with his SO?? References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > How the joke go: > > '.. never went to bed with an ugly woman but I sure woke up with a > few ...' Another victim of beergoggles, I'm afraid to say..... From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 18:00:00 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Sep 1 17:00:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: LOL.. F*cking, Austria References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > > Like Ginsburg (?) mailing his books from the township of Intercourse? Intercourse is a _town_ in PA Amish country. And yes, they sell a ton of tee shirts. Blue Ball is also a lovely town in the same area, but I always dreaded going there..... From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 15:13:37 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Sep 1 17:15:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Drumroll, please. References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:df7eig$cqb$1@news.spamcop.net... > ROAR!!!! What happened? How did you wheedle your way back? Good to see you back anyway and congrats on the pass. Have you been cruising the freeways ever since? From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 15:15:41 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Sep 1 17:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Yet another form of profiling... References: Message-ID: "Dwayne Conyers" wrote in message news:df5c30$7cp$1@news.spamcop.net... > Wound up accomplishing it online -- so much for customer service. > Almost tempted to close and move the money to another instutution.... Why 'almost'? I suppose you could check out the lay of the land and see if you get a different reception anywhere else. > Muff-So-Soft Shaving Cream > For the smoothest female genitals... > http://tinyurl.com/cwjya WTF?! From captain.sisko at deep.space.nine Thu Sep 1 18:16:52 2005 From: captain.sisko at deep.space.nine (Dwayne Conyers) Date: Thu Sep 1 17:20:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Gas over $3.00 today... Message-ID: Drove past Shell on the way to gym this morning and gas was like in the $3.45 range. Any bets on when it hits $5 per? --- I made magic once. Now, the sofa is gone. www.dwacon.com From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 15:19:57 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Sep 1 17:20:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: sounds bloody awful References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:df50u3$v9q$1@news.spamcop.net... > Maybe they like having fresh water to drink? doesn't have to be right there though and in a dangerous situation > > > speaking of liabilities.. where is Heidi > > Heh. I just saw a post from her flash on my monitor. You're in for it now > ;-) oooh... she's flashing you now is she? From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 15:20:36 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Sep 1 17:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: sounds bloody awful References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:df5114$vej$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > "indigo" wrote in message > > news:df5059$uog$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Because the Army Corp of Engineers isn't in charge of controlling > > > earthquakes? > > > > But they are in charge of controlling hurricanes? > > They're in charge of all the waterways in the country. Wetlands too. S'posed > to control all flooding and protect the environment. OIC. Hmm... guess they're gonna have to have a rethink on cost benefit analysis. From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 15:20:54 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Sep 1 17:25:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Latest justification for the Iraq War References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:df5149$vh3$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Spamvireslayer wrote: > > > > Duh indeed...."and said America's mission in Iraq is to turn it into > > a democratic ally just as the United States did with Japan after its > > 1945 surrender. and said America's mission in Iraq is to turn it into > > a democratic ally just as the United States did with Japan after its > > 1945 surrender. " > > > > Does your ctrl-v key have a stutter? looks like it. looks like it From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Thu Sep 1 22:21:54 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Thu Sep 1 17:25:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas over $3.00 today... References: Message-ID: "Dwayne Conyers" wrote in news:df7r42$l1e$1 @news.spamcop.net: > Drove past Shell on the way to gym this morning and gas was like in the > $3.45 range. > > Any bets on when it hits $5 per? Well, this morning it was $.989/liter - $3.743/gal This afternoon it is $1.069/liter - $4.046/gal Tomorrow it's "supposed" to go to $1.159/liter - $4.386/gal We'll probably hit $5 before you. :( From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 15:23:05 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Sep 1 17:25:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If anyone doubts we're being gouged on gas References: Message-ID: "Pete Stephenson" wrote in message news:pete+usenet-19D53D.12410131082005@news.cesmail.net... > No diesel Golfs that meet my needs here. For only $2k more, I've > arranged to buy a beautiful Mercedes with everything working great (at > least everything I could see -- inspection is next wednesday). be sure and find yourself an honest, fairly priced, mercedes expert who can do those jobs that you won't be able to manage and maybe also teach you a few things. if we were to take the Porsche to a dealership for things that needed doing, we'd go bankrupt From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 15:25:40 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Sep 1 17:30:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If anyone doubts we're being gouged on gas References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:df51h7$vmf$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Pete Stephenson wrote: > > > > No diesel Golfs that meet my needs here. For only $2k more, I've > > arranged to buy a beautiful Mercedes with everything working great (at > > least everything I could see -- inspection is next wednesday). > > Make sure they pay great detail to looking for rust and rust/accident damage > repairs. A lot of older Mercs suffer from corrosion, although if you get one > that hasn't been owned by someone who lived on the beach in CA I guess > you're probably safe (but check the title to find out where the car's been). amen to that... one of those services where you can look up the history by the VIN is an absolute must. we rejected several cars based on where they'd been living before and suspicious mileage reports when looking for the 911. I think you can get some info for free but you have to pay for details (worth it): http://carfax.com/ From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 15:27:12 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Sep 1 17:30:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:df52av$gu$1@news.spamcop.net... > that's what polarfleece is for, my dear.....LL Bean has the greatest polarfleece > lined jeans, I LIVED in those all winter. Yes, it sounds like I'd need it. Dont your hands and nose get awfully cold though? From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 15:28:09 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Sep 1 17:30:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If anyone doubts we're being gouged on gas References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:df534f$17k$1@news.spamcop.net... > She looks like a beaut! What model is that? Got a turbo? Even the engine > compartment is spotless! And it looks like it has good tires on it too. May > I ask what that thing is going to cost? Gawd I hope it's not a turbo! That's asking for trouble LOL From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 15:29:41 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Sep 1 17:30:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns96C39155482DCinnewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... > Nah, you get used to it. > And besides, when you come in from way below zero temps, 68 feels just > fine, if a little too warm. :) Takes a while to get used to it. Speaking from the experience of visiting people in England at Christmas, I usually feel very cold after an hour or so of sitting around in temps below 70. If I lived there then of course I'd adapt again to the cold. From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 18:00:15 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Thu Sep 1 17:30:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: This falls under the category of "You have got to be fucking shitting me..." References: Message-ID: "Miss Betsy" | > http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/09/01/katrina.impact/index.html | > | > While looting is a common occurrence after any major disaster, | it's usually put to a stop by police or soldiers (if it's marshal law). Never | before have I heard of an instance where looters actually engage in | running gun-battles with armed national guardsmen...I think we better | call in the regular army, this is only going to get worse. | | In case you have missed it, much of the war in Afghanistan and Iraq | is being waged by National Guardsmen. They /are/ the 'regular' | army. this is a hard indication of how under manned/equipped and over loaded our military is right now. From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 15:30:02 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Sep 1 17:30:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: sounds bloody awful References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:df53ab$1ac$1@news.spamcop.net... > Don't like that one. Existing properties should be grandfathered in, it's > not their fault the government is run by idiots. It is if they voted for them! LOL From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 15:31:33 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Sep 1 17:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns96C391FBBD467innewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... > "indigo" wrote in news:df4udp$tg1$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > Ouch. My upstairs is the same size, my bills were about $130-$150 last > > winter. If the price doubles, there goes most of the raise I just got :-\ > > We've been in this house for 3 years, going on the 4th winter now. > The first winter - approx $90/month to heat > The second winter - approx $120/month > The third winter - approx $180/month (just figured the average now) > The fourth winter - approx $250 to $300/month projected. > (and these figures are for about 5 months minimum each year) > > When will it stop??!! > > I really feel for the low income up here, they will suffer. And I assume that nothing about the house has changed in the meantime (more rooms, different flooring). That's a pretty hefty increase in a short space of time. From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 15:34:24 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Sep 1 17:35:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: LOL.. F*cking, Austria References: Message-ID: "D.F. Manno" wrote in message news:dfm2a3l0t2-84EC29.16352331082005@news.cesmail.net... > In article , > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote: > > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050828/wl_uk_afp/britainaustriaoffbeat > > I've never understood why cities and towns with names that attract sign > thieves don't just go into the sign business. Just think how many > Fucking signs that town would sell, and it might even cut down on the > Fucking thefts. > > And how long do you think it will be until someone in the town starts > selling Fucking postcards? Yes indeed, they ought to embrace it rather than get stuffy about it. They'd have to be sure and make the real signs virtually impossible to remove otherwise folks would still steal them rather than pay. From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 15:37:14 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Sep 1 17:40:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:df54ub$2eb$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > JohnL wrote: > > That was the first thing I put in when we moved in here. > > We have it set to 68 during the day and 62 at night. > > Hey, we could almost live together! Those are my winter settings too, except > I take it down to 60 during the day cuz no one's there. why not make it 50 during the day then switch it up a little earlier (so if at the moment it's programmed to come on at 6pm to 68, instead have it come on at 5.30 or 5pm to allow for the extra time it'd take to warm up to 68) From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 15:37:44 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Sep 1 17:40:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "D.F. Manno" wrote in message news:dfm2a3l0t2-0DBD9D.16473331082005@news.cesmail.net... > What really pisses me off is that any time there's a disruption in oil > that could lead to higher heating oil prices, natural gas prices > skyrocket as well. WTF? Cos it all comes from the same source? From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Thu Sep 1 22:38:29 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Thu Sep 1 17:40:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in news:df7rv5$lvj$1@news.spamcop.net: > And I assume that nothing about the house has changed in the meantime > (more rooms, different flooring). That's a pretty hefty increase in a > short space of time. The only thing that changed was the price. Oh, the temp we kept the house at has changed, gone lower, but the total price still increased! :( From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 15:39:43 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Sep 1 17:40:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If anyone doubts we're being gouged on gas References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:df559d$2n1$1@news.spamcop.net... > Sweet! Hell, I'd buy it for that price! A friend of mine has an 80's > something Merc with over 300k miles on it and it's still going strong. good solid German engineering! From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 15:41:48 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Sep 1 17:45:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: News reporters are friggin' STUPID... References: Message-ID: "D.F. Manno" wrote in message news:dfm2a3l0t2-FDE833.16541431082005@news.cesmail.net... > Yep, and SS is on to that as well. If they determine that the work I'm > doing indicates that I'm capable of full-time work, they can terminate > benefits, even if I never earn above the threshold amount. typical.. fuckers > Well, I'm not good at writing fiction, and it's nearly impossible to do > a serious non-fiction book without leaving your apartment. well how about writing an almost fact book that is based largely on reality but isn't so that nobody can accuse you of poor research... something that paints Bush in a very bad light but not mentioning any names will do nicely please LOL From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 15:46:01 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Sep 1 17:50:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Dateline: Paris References: <1125406264.857737.50960@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: "D.F. Manno" wrote in message news:dfm2a3l0t2-199A8C.17140531082005@news.cesmail.net... > Everybody rips the French for surrendering in 1940, but they > conveniently forget that early on in the war just about every country on > earth would have lost to the Nazi war machine. Had Hitler decided to > invade, Britain would likely have fallen. A large part of the reason the > Soviets were able to defeat the Nazis on the eastern front was that > Hitler tried to fight a two-front war. As it was a lot of Russians died. > > And the only things that would have saved the U.S. before 1942 or 1943 > were distance (too far to mount an invasion) and size (too much land to > take and hold). The U.S. military would have been easily routed by the > Wehrmacht. > > So why does France get the grief? I have no idea. The French Resistance were pretty impressive IMO. I guess because they did surrender and kowtowed to the Germans but they weren't the only ones either! America wasn't exactly impressive until after Pearl Harbor happened. One wonders if they'd really have gone all out if the Japanese hadn't attacked. From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 15:48:39 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Sep 1 17:50:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: I found a spider in my grapes..... References: Message-ID: "DougW" wrote in message news:df58lf$53u$1@news.spamcop.net... > About, the spiders body was close to 2" long. Close to as in it didn't care much > for having a ruler held up to it. Kept turning and looking, hard to measure. :) LOL... shoulda held your hand up next to it for scale ;o) > > It is a Golden Orb spider. A very benifical critter but slightly out of its > normal habitat range. Fed it a few bugs and named it Spot. To date Spot is > the largest web spinning spider I've seen. What do they normally eat? From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 15:57:10 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Sep 1 18:00:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If anyone doubts we're being gouged on gas References: Message-ID: "Pete Stephenson" wrote in message news:pete+usenet-723B70.14505131082005@news.cesmail.net... > The 80s designs are nice and rugged. The late-90s and -00s are not quite > as rugged looking, seemingly made out of the same sheet metal as most > other cars these days. The early 90s seem to have a combination of the > two -- good styling, very elegant looks (I don't like modern Mercedes > cars), and a very rugged construction. I love that very new sporty one, it's really sleek. Sadly, it's a bit out of the range of normal humans' ability to pay LOL http://www.mbusa.com/brand/models/SLR.jsp Failing that, this one's also rather nice: http://www.mbusa.com/brand/models/SLK350.jsp From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 15:57:36 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Sep 1 18:00:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Latest justification for the Iraq War References: Message-ID: "HeyBub" wrote in message news:df59s4$6au$1@news.spamcop.net... > Oil is a pretty good reason to invade. > > Japan invaded southeast Asia for oil. Hitler invaded Russia for oil. Sadaam > invaded Kuwait for oil. Great examples to follow there Bub. From post.please.this.email.is.not.valid at example.com Thu Sep 1 17:58:37 2005 From: post.please.this.email.is.not.valid at example.com (DougW) Date: Thu Sep 1 18:00:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: I found a spider in my grapes..... References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat did pass the time by typing: > "DougW" wrote in message > news:df58lf$53u$1@news.spamcop.net... >> About, the spiders body was close to 2" long. Close to as in it didn't care >> much for having a ruler held up to it. Kept turning and looking, hard to >> measure. :) > > LOL... shoulda held your hand up next to it for scale ;o) Tried, but it ran away. >> >> It is a Golden Orb spider. A very benifical critter but slightly out of its >> normal habitat range. Fed it a few bugs and named it Spot. To date Spot is >> the largest web spinning spider I've seen. > > What do they normally eat? Anything they catch. -- DougW From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 15:59:43 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Sep 1 18:00:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If anyone doubts we're being gouged on gas References: Message-ID: "Pete Stephenson" wrote in message news:pete+usenet-DD85B7.16143531082005@news.cesmail.net... > It literally is the same gas, which is why I don't hesitate to buy the > cheapest stuff around. :) some of them do add beneficial stuff to the gas though, which you may or may not consider beneficial to your engine, depending on what you drive From post.please.this.email.is.not.valid at example.com Thu Sep 1 17:59:39 2005 From: post.please.this.email.is.not.valid at example.com (DougW) Date: Thu Sep 1 18:00:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: I found a spider in my grapes..... References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer did pass the time by typing: > "DougW" wrote in message > news:df58lf$53u$1@news.spamcop.net... >>> It is a Golden Orb spider. A very benifical critter but slightly out of its >> normal habitat range. Fed it a few bugs and named it Spot. To date Spot is >> the largest web spinning spider I've seen. > > Actually it looks more like this: > Argiope aurantia - Black and Yellow Garden Spider > http://www.cirrusimage.com/spider_argiope_aurantia.htm Your right. http://www.cirrusimage.com/Spider/Argiope_aurantia_4.jpg I'll was typing from memory and obviously my brain had gone out for a beer and decided to stay for the band. :) -- DougW From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 16:00:08 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Sep 1 18:00:17 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns96C3C4F5C6F11TheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > No way it was me! It was "Spamvireslayer" ! > > > that's what polarfleece is for, my dear.....LL Bean has the greatest > > polarfleece lined jeans, I LIVED in those all winter. > > Uh. LL Bean lost a load of 3000 cases of jeans just yesterday... We (and > the shipper!) are trying to find out if they're still on the sunny side of > the ocean... Heidi's got 'em! From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 16:00:50 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Sep 1 18:05:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: I found a spider in my grapes..... References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:df5er0$97a$1@news.spamcop.net... > I have them in my garden every summer - I like to throw bugs into the web to > watch them spin them up into a cocoon and save them for later. Not a > pleasant thing to come face to face with when you bend over weeding, > however... you are truly evil! I used to do exactly the same thing LOL From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 16:01:24 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Sep 1 18:05:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:df5f0b$99o$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message > news:Xns96C3C4F5C6F11TheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > > > > Uh. LL Bean lost a load of 3000 cases of jeans just yesterday... We (and > > the shipper!) are trying to find out if they're still on the sunny side of > > the ocean... > > Whoa, glad I just stocked up.....where was the ship? look at her playing it all cool like she doesn't know where they went! From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 16:02:08 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Sep 1 18:05:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Dateline: Paris References: <1125406264.857737.50960@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:df5fsu$9tv$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Neil" wrote in message > news:df4v57$u3g$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > That's all. The towels on beach/pool chairs is enough. ;-) > > I flew to Hawaii next to a German couple, I swear they were two of the most > obnoxious people I've ever met. Complained constantly had to get up and go > to the bathroom about every half hour, rude, pushy, demanding, I was looking > for those little pillows so I could suffocate them... that was the longest > damn flight EVER. Oddly enough just about every German I've met since is > exactly the same way. Not that I'm prejudiced, it's just my experience..... they sound like your typical American tourist LOL From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 16:03:11 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Sep 1 18:05:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tragedy brings out the best in people References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:df5g7l$a66$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:df4h7g$km1$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > > > I remember as the storm approached they interviewed some guy and his adult > > son and they were all confident that it would be fine as they lived a big > 3 > > miles inland. I wonder if they survived. > > I wonder what happened to the woman and her child that were told they could > ride it out on a friend's shrimp boat, because that was safer than being on > land. Sheesh...... Let's hope she saw sense and took to the hills instead! From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 16:14:27 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Sep 1 18:15:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Katrina References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" <35zyuhr02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:df6a7h$o9k$1@news.spamcop.net... > I mean probably in the sense that it would be gross and it would be very > likely that I would avoid them. So, I would say like 99%. I mean you > have to allow for strange borderline cases. I mean what if I was in a > coma and I didn't specially specify in my instructions that I was to > avoid bananas and for some reason they decided to give me banana > flavored sausage. Sure it isn't very likely, but who knows, it might > happen, so I say probably then. now you're bordering on the insane LOL... hell you probably smell bananas even when there's none around for miles! From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 16:18:58 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Sep 1 18:20:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If anyone doubts we're being gouged on gas References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" <35zyuhr02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:df6ave$onv$1@news.spamcop.net... > Great, now I hear there is a group of 9 or 10 Bengali youths who have > been hanging around on the canal by Victoria Park and they seem to enjoy > trying to push people into the water. Hmm, that's a little worrying. > > But the canal has its own problems too. The path is pretty narrow, > since it was designed for towing barges and not bike and pedestrian > traffic. It makes me a little nervous when somebody comes the other way > and you have to lean to the side so that they don't hit you. Then you > get those WTF moments where like yesterday, and some guy was coming the > other way hauling ass down a hill and I don't know how this guy doesn't > hit dozens of people every day since he didn't even bother scooching > over to his own side. What an ass. But all in all, I would much rather > get hit by a bike than a double decker bus. What does the water look like? Is it disgusting? God knows you don't want to end up in there. Is there anywhere to climb out? Make sure you always take the side furthest away from the water. > It does help that prevailing traffic speeds are pretty slow and it is > practically impossible for a car to ever go much over 20 at any point. > But still, I've noticed that I've started to develop my own prejudices > about which ones are scarier. Like the people who drive the white vans, > I usually give them a little extra room. now that is funny, that you've developed an instinct about 'white van man' all on your own without anyone telling you that they're the biggest threat on Britain's roads! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4139206.stm From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 16:21:51 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Sep 1 18:25:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Dateline: Paris References: <1125406264.857737.50960@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" <35zyuhr02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:df6e0p$qn1$1@news.spamcop.net... > I sit next to the German division people in the office. They are like > the nicest people in the office. I've gotten so much chocolate and > little snacks from them. You know, all the people from my division > mostly ignore me, so I hang out with the Germans and the people from > some other division who work for the parent company. Why do the folks in your division ignore you?! Some people! From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 16:24:17 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Sep 1 18:25:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Is it just me, or is this man trying to cover something with his SO?? References: Message-ID: "David Dean" wrote in message news:ozchzhq02-F73813.07280601092005@frylock.local... > In article , > Redstone wrote: > > > She is probably a good performer then to keep the guys interested. > > I just haven't figured out how they get interested. Perhaps there's a secret nod or wink that indicates special tricks are up her sleeve? From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 16:24:37 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Sep 1 18:25:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If anyone doubts we're being gouged on gas References: Message-ID: "David Dean" wrote in message news:ozchzhq02-02A36B.07320201092005@frylock.local... > In article , > "Mr K. Mean" <35zyuhr02@sneakemail.com> wrote: > > > It does help that prevailing traffic speeds are pretty slow and it is > > practically impossible for a car to ever go much over 20 at any point. > > Well, that is advantageous. I was passed by hundreds of cars doing 70 > mph that didn't give any concern to the fact that I was there. Not fun. holy crap, where was that? From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 16:26:11 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Sep 1 18:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If anyone doubts we're being gouged on gas References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:df6vo0$50b$1@news.spamcop.net... > Where in the hell is there a road where it is legal to ride a bike next to > cars going that fast? dual carriageways in the UK allow bicycles, speed limit on those is 70 From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 16:27:28 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Sep 1 18:30:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Is it just me, or is this man trying to cover something with his SO?? References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:df716a$618$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "indigo" wrote in message news:df70ug$5vj$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > Some of us *do* have standards, you know.....this is a rather large woman > > we're talking about, right? > > If men can do it with farm animals, an overweight woman isn't that big of a deal. > As long as it's dark and there's a hole to stick it in, most men wouldn't care if > she's uglier than a hedge fence. You can deny it, but men know it's true, no one > wants to say it out loud.... oh man, i'm rollin' around larfin here From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 16:34:15 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Sep 1 18:35:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:df741p$7vk$1@news.spamcop.net... > Nuh-uh. How else can this sentence be parsed? > "Well, I shower in hot water, and when I get out I jump right into my angel > fleece jammies" > > Liar liar pants on fire. sounds to me like no towels are involved From borgholio at storymind.com Thu Sep 1 16:45:11 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Thu Sep 1 18:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Drumroll, please. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "Borgholio" wrote in message > news:df7eig$cqb$1@news.spamcop.net... > >>ROAR!!!! > > > What happened? How did you wheedle your way back? Good to see you back > anyway and congrats on the pass. Have you been cruising the freeways ever > since? > > I was told by Jeff to just wait a couple weeks while "something" was sorted out. Looks like it was. :) No, not cruising the highways yet. Getting my bike serviced tomorrow or the weekend, then practicing for a 6 hour trip to Placerville in December. :) From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Fri Sep 2 01:07:55 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Thu Sep 1 19:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Dateline: Paris In-Reply-To: References: <1125406264.857737.50960@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > Well, we'll see how nice they are. Try to wrangle some of those chocolates filled > with cognac, then I'll believe you..... The Rents had a box of those from their > German friends sitting on the counter while they were off in Florida one winter. > They also had a red squirrel who got into the house and made a meal out of them, > paper and foil shredded everywhere, I was surprised he wasn't gorked out all over the > rug sleeping it off. Ha. I had some of those about two weeks ago. In fact, I think those were one of the first ones I had from them. From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Fri Sep 2 01:19:05 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Thu Sep 1 19:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Dateline: Paris In-Reply-To: References: <1125406264.857737.50960@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "Mr K. Mean" <35zyuhr02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message > news:df6e0p$qn1$1@news.spamcop.net... > >>I sit next to the German division people in the office. They are like >>the nicest people in the office. I've gotten so much chocolate and >>little snacks from them. You know, all the people from my division >>mostly ignore me, so I hang out with the Germans and the people from >>some other division who work for the parent company. > > Why do the folks in your division ignore you?! Some people! Why? I don't know. Maybe they are computer nerds with no social skills. Or who knows. But I don't care, screw 'em. I got adopted by another group who is a lot more fun. Funny, one of the women tonight when we went out, she was just totally pissed about that, way more than I was. The nerve of them, what is their problem, and so on. But whatever, it works way better for me, hanging out with geeks is boring, editors are way more interesting. From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Thu Sep 1 20:34:38 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Thu Sep 1 19:35:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: In article , "Sylvesterthekat" wrote: > "D.F. Manno" wrote in message >aq > > What really pisses me off is that any time there's a disruption in oil > > that could lead to higher heating oil prices, natural gas prices > > skyrocket as well. WTF? > > Cos it all comes from the same source? I didn't know ExxonMobil was in the natural-gas gouging business, too. -- D.F. Manno | dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com "Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under. " - H. L. Mencken From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 17:36:27 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Sep 1 19:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Drumroll, please. References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:df809f$omi$1@news.spamcop.net... > I was told by Jeff to just wait a couple weeks while "something" was sorted > out. Looks like it was. :) No, not cruising the highways yet. Getting my > bike serviced tomorrow or the weekend, then practicing for a 6 hour trip to > Placerville in December. :) Yes, it certainly would appear that 'something' has been 'sorted'. Hurrah! Well anyway, glad that you're back and all that. You missed all the death throes of the troll but I'm sure you don't give a rat's ass about that LOL From borgholio at storymind.com Thu Sep 1 17:38:50 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Thu Sep 1 19:40:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Drumroll, please. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "Borgholio" wrote in message > news:df809f$omi$1@news.spamcop.net... > >>I was told by Jeff to just wait a couple weeks while "something" was > > sorted > >>out. Looks like it was. :) No, not cruising the highways yet. Getting > > my > >>bike serviced tomorrow or the weekend, then practicing for a 6 hour trip > > to > >>Placerville in December. :) > > > Yes, it certainly would appear that 'something' has been 'sorted'. Hurrah! > > Well anyway, glad that you're back and all that. You missed all the death > throes of the troll but I'm sure you don't give a rat's ass about that LOL > > Well I've heard from a little bird that it was GregR...which really surprised me because he seemed like a decent guy. I refuse to play the "he said - she said" game, so I'm content with saying that I dunno who the troll really is. :) From borgholio at storymind.com Thu Sep 1 17:41:16 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Thu Sep 1 19:45:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Ping all beer gurus Message-ID: I'm not much of a drinker...last beverage I had was a year ago or so. But I've always wanted to try some Mead. The fact that it's made from honey really interests me. Anybody out there ever try the stuff? Does it taste / smell / go down like ordinary beer? Where would I find some good quality mead to try out? From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 17:42:31 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Sep 1 19:45:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Dateline: Paris References: <1125406264.857737.50960@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" <35zyuhr02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:df829a$pnf$1@news.spamcop.net... > Why? I don't know. Maybe they are computer nerds with no social > skills. Or who knows. But I don't care, screw 'em. I got adopted by > another group who is a lot more fun. Funny, one of the women tonight > when we went out, she was just totally pissed about that, way more than > I was. The nerve of them, what is their problem, and so on. But > whatever, it works way better for me, hanging out with geeks is boring, > editors are way more interesting. It sounds like it did indeed work out for the best. Maybe the geeks are jealous cos you're better than them! Did you happen to see some show on Channel 4 wednesday night about uncontrollable dogs? Apparently it was hilarious, I hope it comes here. It was called It's Me or the Dog, at 8.30. It's on next week at the same time. I just know this show will come to American TV, if it hasn't already: http://www.channel4.com/life/microsites/H/how_clean_is_your_house/index.html From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 17:43:14 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Sep 1 19:45:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "D.F. Manno" wrote in message news:dfm2a3l0t2-B2E457.19343801092005@news.cesmail.net... > > Cos it all comes from the same source? > > I didn't know ExxonMobil was in the natural-gas gouging business, too. I don't know who sells it, but it comes out the same hole. From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 17:43:47 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Sep 1 19:45:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Drumroll, please. References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:df83e1$p2j$1@news.spamcop.net... > Well I've heard from a little bird that it was GregR...which really > surprised me because he seemed like a decent guy. I refuse to play the "he > said - she said" game, so I'm content with saying that I dunno who the troll > really is. :) LOL, I don't think there's any doubt in anyone's minds who it was. From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Fri Sep 2 00:45:13 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Thu Sep 1 19:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in news:df83le$qgm$1 @news.spamcop.net: > I don't know who sells it, but it comes out the same hole. Ooo, that sounds nasty! From bcs1 at spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 20:53:59 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bcs1) Date: Thu Sep 1 19:50:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] hitting the road Message-ID: you know, I was sitting here thinking that this hurricane just may be a blessing in disguise........... as all of you know work has sucked for me recently, and allot of other folks in my line of work...... well I can still drive a nail, and I still have my management skills, and I have 2 generators, tons of power and hand tools, a trailer/camper a tool trailer, my dad, and some serious construction skillz.......... So I'm thinking that in about 3 weeks i'ma hitch up the wagons, feed/water the horses, and head west............. /nostalgic feeling washes over the room/ I guess it'll be like the good old days ........ /wakes up/ Bill From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Fri Sep 2 00:49:52 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Thu Sep 1 19:50:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: hitting the road References: Message-ID: "Bcs1" wrote in news:df83uu$qo1$1@news.spamcop.net: > you know, I was sitting here thinking that this hurricane just may be > a blessing in disguise........... > > as all of you know work has sucked for me recently, and allot of other > folks in my line of work...... > well I can still drive a nail, and I still have my management skills, > and I have 2 generators, tons of power and hand tools, a > trailer/camper a tool trailer, my dad, and some serious construction > skillz.......... > > So I'm thinking that in about 3 weeks i'ma hitch up the wagons, > feed/water > the horses, and head west............. > /nostalgic feeling washes over the room/ > I guess it'll be like the good old days ........ > /wakes up/ > > Bill > > > Are you transplanting yourself? Geting out before the cold? ;-) From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Fri Sep 2 01:59:53 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Thu Sep 1 20:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Dateline: Paris In-Reply-To: References: <1125406264.857737.50960@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > It sounds like it did indeed work out for the best. Maybe the geeks are > jealous cos you're better than them! > > Did you happen to see some show on Channel 4 wednesday night about > uncontrollable dogs? Apparently it was hilarious, I hope it comes here. It > was called It's Me or the Dog, at 8.30. It's on next week at the same time. > > I just know this show will come to American TV, if it hasn't already: > > http://www.channel4.com/life/microsites/H/how_clean_is_your_house/index.html I would say that they are mostly totally oblivious to it all. You know, focused on getting the perfect video card to play whatever the new hot game is now. But yeah, oh well, who needs them. I didn't see the dog show. I guess I could look for it next week. I know there was another dog behavior show on last week, but this one was something like my husband is driving me nuts and some dog trainer is going to show me how to train him and make things work better. But I didn't see that one either. Those cleaning ladies, didn't they already do an American show? Or did they just film some of the episodes in America? I thought I remembered seeing that. But I haven't seen any of that show either. If it is a reality show, I generally only watch the really cheezy ones. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 21:04:51 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Thu Sep 1 20:10:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tragedy brings out the best in people References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:df7tqa$n5r$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Let's hope she saw sense and took to the hills instead! Nope, she didn't but she survived.. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8045532/ "After the story aired we were flooded with calls from viewers expressing concern, mostly over the little girl's well being. We checked in today and they're fine. They said the boat rocked about ten times and they "didn't feel a thing." Their main concern today: they fear they might have lost their house again, but because the water's high and the roads are out, they can't get home to be sure." From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 21:07:22 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Thu Sep 1 20:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Dateline: Paris References: <1125406264.857737.50960@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" <35zyuhr02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:df81kb$pcl$1@news.spamcop.net... > Spamvireslayer wrote: > Ha. I had some of those about two weeks ago. In fact, I think those > were one of the first ones I had from them. Oh yeah? Well they're only REALLY cool if they send some to me........ From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 21:19:05 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Thu Sep 1 20:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns96C4BC715CAD1TheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > > War? No war. I had total control. They tried to change the temp. What > war? Oh. Hmm. Well, maybe like a kind of war where you win regardless of > what tbey do because you have a ridiculous technological advantage... I > mean, ha, I'm schlepping boxes and these people are doing IT and they can't > even program a lousy thermostat. Unreal. I work with seven engineers, most of them don't bother even trying to mess with it, they just call me. One, however, the anal retentive immature twat, thinks that if he sets ALL the zones, that will fix HIS zone. Changing the temperature in MY zone at the other end of the office has nothing to do with the temperature in his end, try as I might I could not explain this concept to him. He gets pissy and childish and screws with all the settings, messes up all the programming, he screwed it up so badly that the "sleep" setting came on at 8 am.... Can you believe I had to say, in a menacing tone, to a 45 year old "We will not be having this conversation again - do NOT touch the thermostat in my zone again....." From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 21:20:21 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Thu Sep 1 20:25:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns96C4BCAA8CE13TheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > > Could be, but I get my diesel from Irving and they do not refine down > south, eh? (Their diesel is the only one to use - it is formulated to > withstand winters around here. Oddly, the other diesels sold here > aren't...) They might not refine down south, but they're taking full advantage of ripping off the public, their prices are the highest in my area, with the possible exception of Mobile. From pete+usenet at heypete.com Thu Sep 1 18:24:52 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Thu Sep 1 20:25:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Biodiesel recipe? References: Message-ID: In article , Charles <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote: > Ah, c'mon FP! Give! Stations up here are already running out of fuel! > Dang! Oh. Right. Hmm. I could always take fuel oil.... http://www.bayareabiofuel.com/ They do all the dirty work for you. Of course, you need to be in the Bay Area, but it's one advantage to living near Berkeley. :) Prices are pretty high ($3.05/gallon in 55 gallon drums, $2.65 if you buy 1,500 gallons), but they're certainly cheaper than gas stations here. -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 21:21:28 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Thu Sep 1 20:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:df7vkd$obh$1@news.spamcop.net... > > sounds to me like no towels are involved In your language, it's called "statin' the bleedin' obvious!" Like, I shouldn't HAVE to.... From borgholio at storymind.com Thu Sep 1 18:25:52 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Thu Sep 1 20:30:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Biodiesel recipe? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Pete Stephenson wrote: > In article , > Charles <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote: > > >>Ah, c'mon FP! Give! Stations up here are already running out of fuel! >>Dang! Oh. Right. Hmm. I could always take fuel oil.... > > > http://www.bayareabiofuel.com/ > > They do all the dirty work for you. > > Of course, you need to be in the Bay Area, but it's one advantage to > living near Berkeley. :) > > Prices are pretty high ($3.05/gallon in 55 gallon drums, $2.65 if you > buy 1,500 gallons), but they're certainly cheaper than gas stations here. > Hey Pete, what's the cost-per-gallon for Tank fuel? :) From pete+usenet at heypete.com Thu Sep 1 18:26:20 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Thu Sep 1 20:30:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If anyone doubts we're being gouged on gas References: Message-ID: In article , "Sylvesterthekat" wrote: > Gawd I hope it's not a turbo! That's asking for trouble LOL Why's that? My diesel-savvy buddy says that a well-maintained turbo can extend the life of the engine. Not sure how, as I'm not nearly as savvy as he, but yeah. :) -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 21:23:14 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Thu Sep 1 20:30:17 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:df7rn0$llg$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Yes, it sounds like I'd need it. Dont your hands and nose get awfully cold > though? > My nose seems to be ok most of the time, most of my fleece pullovers have kangaroo pockets to keep my hands warm when I'm sitting. I am thinking that some fingerless gloves might be nice though, especially when it's really cold. From pete+usenet at heypete.com Thu Sep 1 18:28:29 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Thu Sep 1 20:30:19 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Ping all beer gurus References: Message-ID: In article , Borgholio wrote: > I'm not much of a drinker...last beverage I had was a year ago or so. But > I've always wanted to try some Mead. The fact that it's made from honey > really interests me. Anybody out there ever try the stuff? Does it taste / > smell / go down like ordinary beer? Where would I find some good quality > mead to try out? It's very good. The real Irish mead I've had (in Ireland, believe it or not) was just slightly sweet and extremely delicious. No carbonation, which was nice...I hate excessively fizzy drinks. I'm not a big fan of most beers out there[1], but mead goes down like...well, honey. Smooth and very tasty. I'm not sure if grocery/liquor stores carry it, but it'd be something to look for. I'm afraid I don't know much about acquiring it here in the US or any good brands. [1] Budlight and Corona are not beer. They're what you excrete after drinking real beer[2]. [2] Like Guinness, for example. -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 21:24:45 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Thu Sep 1 20:30:21 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:df7san$m4g$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "D.F. Manno" wrote in message > news:dfm2a3l0t2-0DBD9D.16473331082005@news.cesmail.net... > > What really pisses me off is that any time there's a disruption in oil > > that could lead to higher heating oil prices, natural gas prices > > skyrocket as well. WTF? > > Cos it all comes from the same source? I think there's something to be said for not having all one's eggs in the same basket. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 21:25:39 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Thu Sep 1 20:30:23 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns96C4B499592B5innewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in news:df83le$qgm$1 > @news.spamcop.net: > > > I don't know who sells it, but it comes out the same hole. > > Ooo, that sounds nasty! > Natural gas DOES come from the same hole....sadly, its the kind that if you light it, you end up in the ER trying to explain yourself.. From pete+usenet at heypete.com Thu Sep 1 18:30:44 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Thu Sep 1 20:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Biodiesel recipe? References: Message-ID: In article , Borgholio wrote: > Hey Pete, what's the cost-per-gallon for Tank fuel? :) I dunno...the tanks'll pretty much burn any petroleum distillate fuel -- diesel, jet fuel, kerosene, unleaded, etc. Sure, the engine won't last that long when running unleaded, but it'll get you out of harms way. They used to use diesel fuel, but microbes would grow in it, clogging fuel filters. They switched to some sort of jet fuel...whatever they use in turbine-driven helicopters; the tank has a nearly-identical turbine. As a soldier, the fuel was free from big fueler trucks or their "military vehicles only" fueling stations. As a taxpayer, I shudder to think about it. :) -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From borgholio at storymind.com Thu Sep 1 18:30:25 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Thu Sep 1 20:35:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Ping all beer gurus In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Pete Stephenson wrote: > In article , > Borgholio wrote: > > >>I'm not much of a drinker...last beverage I had was a year ago or so. But >>I've always wanted to try some Mead. The fact that it's made from honey >>really interests me. Anybody out there ever try the stuff? Does it taste / >>smell / go down like ordinary beer? Where would I find some good quality >>mead to try out? > > > It's very good. The real Irish mead I've had (in Ireland, believe it or > not) was just slightly sweet and extremely delicious. No carbonation, > which was nice...I hate excessively fizzy drinks. > > I'm not a big fan of most beers out there[1], but mead goes down > like...well, honey. Smooth and very tasty. > > I'm not sure if grocery/liquor stores carry it, but it'd be something to > look for. I'm afraid I don't know much about acquiring it here in the US > or any good brands. > > [1] Budlight and Corona are not beer. They're what you excrete after > drinking real beer[2]. > [2] Like Guinness, for example. > Even though I don't know jack about beer, I've never considered anything with rice in it to be real beer. :) Thx for the tips on Mead...the problem I have with ANY beer is the alcohol makes me gag when I swallow it. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 21:27:05 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Thu Sep 1 20:35:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns96C4BD34D22DDTheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > > Most of the jeans come from Mexico. Even 2 years ago they were made here, > but no longer... And yet, has that price savings been passed on to the customer, all this cheap Mexican labor? Noooo.... From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 21:28:02 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Thu Sep 1 20:35:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:df7tn0$n3k$1@news.spamcop.net... > > look at her playing it all cool like she doesn't know where they went! > LOL... really, I don't. You know how small my apartment is... I have no room for 3000 pairs of jeans...... From borgholio at storymind.com Thu Sep 1 18:33:11 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Thu Sep 1 20:35:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Biodiesel recipe? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Pete Stephenson wrote: > In article , > Borgholio wrote: > > >>Hey Pete, what's the cost-per-gallon for Tank fuel? :) > > > I dunno...the tanks'll pretty much burn any petroleum distillate fuel -- > diesel, jet fuel, kerosene, unleaded, etc. Sure, the engine won't last > that long when running unleaded, but it'll get you out of harms way. > > They used to use diesel fuel, but microbes would grow in it, clogging > fuel filters. They switched to some sort of jet fuel...whatever they use > in turbine-driven helicopters; the tank has a nearly-identical turbine. > > As a soldier, the fuel was free from big fueler trucks or their > "military vehicles only" fueling stations. As a taxpayer, I shudder to > think about it. :) > Too bad that free fuel isn't one of the retirement / discharge benefits of being in the military. :) From pete+usenet at heypete.com Thu Sep 1 18:38:04 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Thu Sep 1 20:40:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Biodiesel recipe? References: Message-ID: In article , Borgholio wrote: > Too bad that free fuel isn't one of the retirement / discharge benefits of > being in the military. :) Yeah, seriously. That, and the NASA Ames/Moffett Field base near me is a bit far away to justify the cheaper fuel. Now, I wonder if they have the "military vehicles only" pumps there. In Germany, I'm sure Mercedes makes military vehicles. They don't specify WHICH military. Muwhahahaha. :) -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From borgholio at storymind.com Thu Sep 1 18:38:56 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Thu Sep 1 20:40:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Biodiesel recipe? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Pete Stephenson wrote: > In article , >They don't specify > WHICH military. Muwhahahaha. :) > Good point! Try it out. :) From pete+usenet at heypete.com Thu Sep 1 18:39:22 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Thu Sep 1 20:40:17 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Ping all beer gurus References: Message-ID: In article , Borgholio wrote: > Even though I don't know jack about beer, I've never considered anything > with rice in it to be real beer. :) Thx for the tips on Mead...the problem > I have with ANY beer is the alcohol makes me gag when I swallow it. Yeah, why do you think I drink Guinness? It's so bitter you don't taste the alcohol. :) Over time, I've grown to rather like it. I don't drink much beer, but I can drink just about anything except the lightest of the light beer. Now you've got me craving mead. Bastard! -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From borgholio at storymind.com Thu Sep 1 18:41:32 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Thu Sep 1 20:45:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Ping all beer gurus In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Pete Stephenson wrote: > In article , > Borgholio wrote: > > >>Even though I don't know jack about beer, I've never considered anything >>with rice in it to be real beer. :) Thx for the tips on Mead...the problem >>I have with ANY beer is the alcohol makes me gag when I swallow it. > > > Yeah, why do you think I drink Guinness? It's so bitter you don't taste > the alcohol. :) > > Over time, I've grown to rather like it. I don't drink much beer, but I > can drink just about anything except the lightest of the light beer. > > Now you've got me craving mead. Bastard! > Nyah Nyah! :-P From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 21:40:43 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Thu Sep 1 20:45:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: I found a spider in my grapes..... References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:df7tlt$n2h$1@news.spamcop.net... > > you are truly evil! I used to do exactly the same thing LOL That's how I torture those effin' Japanese beetles.....you eat my roses, Mrs. Spider gonna eat YOU.... From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 21:41:08 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Thu Sep 1 20:45:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Latest justification for the Iraq War References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:df7rb7$lhl$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "indigo" wrote in message > > Does your ctrl-v key have a stutter? > > looks like it. looks like it har. har. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 21:41:34 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Thu Sep 1 20:50:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: sounds bloody awful References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:df7r9e$lbl$1@news.spamcop.net... > > oooh... she's flashing you now is she? Oh please, nobody needs to see that....... LOL From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 22:08:38 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Thu Sep 1 21:15:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Dateline: Paris References: <1125406264.857737.50960@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:df7tob$n3t$1@news.spamcop.net... > > they sound like your typical American tourist LOL > LOL.....no really, much worse....although the "Ugly Americans" are making a good stab at the title.... From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 23:10:50 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Thu Sep 1 22:15:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns96C4D1F75D923TheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > > Yes, in fact, it has. An average price drop of 6% a year for the past 3 > years running. Average, mind you, and not specifically with regard to > jeans. Definitely not in the fleecy jeans, they've gone up .50 since I bought them last September... From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 23:10:30 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Thu Sep 1 22:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Biodiesel recipe? References: Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns96C4D2DD28C8TheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... | No way it was me! It was Pete Stephenson ! | > In article , | > Charles <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote: | > | >> Ah, c'mon FP! Give! Stations up here are already running out of | >> fuel! Dang! Oh. Right. Hmm. I could always take fuel oil.... | > | > http://www.bayareabiofuel.com/ | > | > They do all the dirty work for you. | > | > Of course, you need to be in the Bay Area, but it's one advantage to | > living near Berkeley. :) | > | > Prices are pretty high ($3.05/gallon in 55 gallon drums, $2.65 if you | > buy 1,500 gallons), but they're certainly cheaper than gas stations | > here. | | Those are the old prices, for one. Surely with the present troubles the | price will rise. For another, FP is talking about a price under a buck. | And, hey, the stuff works for fuel oil as well. I'm told yes. and I'll post links to the formula and the how to data once I get the family stuff settled. BTW some guy is selling a DIY home brew rig for $2500 to $3500. Real cost is on the order of $300 to $500. From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 23:12:41 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Thu Sep 1 22:30:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tragedy brings out the best in people References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:df7tqa$n5r$1@news.spamcop.net... | | "Heidi" wrote in message | news:df5g7l$a66$1@news.spamcop.net... | > | > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message | > news:df4h7g$km1$1@news.spamcop.net... | > > | > > | > > I remember as the storm approached they interviewed some guy and his | adult son and they were all confident that it would be fine as they lived a | big 3 miles inland. I wonder if they survived. | > | > I wonder what happened to the woman and her child that were told they | could ride it out on a friend's shrimp boat, because that was safer than being | on land. Sheesh...... | | Let's hope she saw sense and took to the hills instead! In that part of Mississippin and Louisiana there ain't no hills. Given I had to ride out in a house withint 6 miles of the coast or in a boat I'd take the boat. From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 20:48:46 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Sep 1 22:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] where's the international help? Message-ID: Has anyone heard if other countries have offered any help toward this disaster? Everyone was very quick to go help the tsunami victims but I haven't heard of any other nations sending rescue workers to this disaster zone. Is that just me not paying attention? This looks to me just as bad as what happened in the tsunami as far as local destruction and flooding goes. With the added bonus of gun toting maniacs going about raping and pillaging. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 23:47:37 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Thu Sep 1 22:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tragedy brings out the best in people References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:df8db1$q3$2@news.spamcop.net... > > In that part of Mississippin and Louisiana there ain't no hills. Given I > had to ride out in a house withint 6 miles of the coast or in a boat I'd > take the boat. Given that entire barges were deposited upside down on shore, ain't no way I'd want to be on a boat. Might as well just go inland, because that's where the hurricane threw them anyway. From borgholio at storymind.com Thu Sep 1 21:00:26 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Thu Sep 1 23:05:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > Has anyone heard if other countries have offered any help toward this > disaster? Everyone was very quick to go help the tsunami victims but I > haven't heard of any other nations sending rescue workers to this disaster > zone. Is that just me not paying attention? This looks to me just as bad as > what happened in the tsunami as far as local destruction and flooding goes. > With the added bonus of gun toting maniacs going about raping and pillaging. > > France is considering it. But my question is "Where's the army?" Why hasn't marshall law been declared? From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 21:01:58 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Sep 1 23:05:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:df8egf$1c7$1@news.spamcop.net... > Has anyone heard if other countries have offered any help toward this > disaster? Everyone was very quick to go help the tsunami victims but I > haven't heard of any other nations sending rescue workers to this disaster > zone. Is that just me not paying attention? This looks to me just as bad as > what happened in the tsunami as far as local destruction and flooding goes. > With the added bonus of gun toting maniacs going about raping and pillaging. Answering my own question here, it seems that offers are being rejected by the US government. (WTF?!) From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 21:04:08 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Sep 1 23:05:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:df8f80$sog$3@news.spamcop.net... > Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > Has anyone heard if other countries have offered any help toward this > > disaster? Everyone was very quick to go help the tsunami victims but I > > haven't heard of any other nations sending rescue workers to this disaster > > zone. Is that just me not paying attention? This looks to me just as bad as > > what happened in the tsunami as far as local destruction and flooding goes. > > With the added bonus of gun toting maniacs going about raping and pillaging. > > > > > > France is considering it. But my question is "Where's the army?" Why > hasn't marshall law been declared? The army are in Iraq. The other half of the army are already in the New Orleans area, or so it would seem (ie the reserves who make up quite a large percentage of the army these days). A bit of searching on google news revealed that the US government is rejecting offers of help so yet again we can thank Mr Asshole Bush for screwing things up. From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Fri Sep 2 04:03:23 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Thu Sep 1 23:05:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in news:df8f94$1sv$1@news.spamcop.net: > Answering my own question here, it seems that offers are being > rejected by the US government. (WTF?!) I know Canada has offered, and I'm pretty sure Germany has also to name a couple From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 00:04:43 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Thu Sep 1 23:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:df8f94$1sv$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Answering my own question here, it seems that offers are being rejected by > the US government. (WTF?!) Fucking asshole.... http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N01481437.htm Accustomed to being a rich donor rather than on the receiving end of charity, the United States initially seemed reticent about accepting foreign aid, but later said it would take up any offers. The hurricane devastated New Orleans and other parts of the U.S. Gulf Coast, killing hundreds and possibly thousands. "Anything that can be of help to alleviate the tragic situation of the area affected by Hurricane Katrina will be accepted," said State Department spokesman Sean McCormack. "America should be heartened by the fact that the world is reaching out to America at a time of need," he added. Earlier, President George W. Bush said in a television interview that the United States could take care of itself. "I'm not expecting much from foreign nations because we hadn't asked for it. I do expect a lot of sympathy and perhaps some will send cash dollars. But this country's going to rise up and take care of it," Bush told ABC's "Good Morning America." From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 00:13:11 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Eponym) Date: Thu Sep 1 23:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tragedy brings out the best in people References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:df8db1$q3$2@news.spamcop.net... > > In that part of Mississippin and Louisiana there ain't no hills. Given I > had to ride out in a house withint 6 miles of the coast or in a boat I'd > take the boat. > It would have to be a very big seaworthy boat! I rode out hurricane Gloria in '85 on a sub...only time in my life I've ever been seasick was on our way out. We had waves breaking over the conning tower (about 40')...and once we submerged could feel the waves at 200'. Hurricanes are nasty! From pete+usenet at heypete.com Thu Sep 1 21:20:44 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Thu Sep 1 23:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Biodiesel recipe? References: Message-ID: In article , Charles <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote: > Those are the old prices, for one. Surely with the present troubles the > price will rise. For another, FP is talking about a price under a buck. > And, hey, the stuff works for fuel oil as well. Do you think the price would rise? Their supply of waste vegetable oil from food establishments and whatnot is still steady. They don't use any petroleum in it, so I can't imagine why their costs would rise at all. But yeah, I'd be interested in FP's information as well. -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 00:02:06 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Thu Sep 1 23:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas over $3.00 today... References: Message-ID: "Dwayne Conyers" | Drove past Shell on the way to gym this morning and gas was like in the | $3.45 range. | | Any bets on when it hits $5 per? Reports from Western NC and easer TN no fuel for private vehicles. In eastern NC fire trucks and other government diesel fueled vehicles are filling up at the same pumps that the John Q Public uses trying to conserve their stored fuel From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 00:04:49 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Thu Sep 1 23:30:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tragedy brings out the best in people References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:df8eng$1hs$1@news.spamcop.net... | | "Frog Prince" wrote in message | news:df8db1$q3$2@news.spamcop.net... | > | > In that part of Mississippi and Louisiana there ain't no hills. Given I | > had to ride out in a house within 6 miles of the coast or in a boat I'd | > take the boat. | | Given that entire barges were deposited upside down on shore, ain't no way | I'd want to be on a boat. Might as well just go inland, because that's where | the hurricane threw them anyway. Barge is totally different that a barge. FWIW the navy often set to sea in storms as the vessels are safer when at sea. I'd try to be as far inland as I could get (say Kansas) but close to the coast I'd take a boat over a house. From pete+usenet at heypete.com Thu Sep 1 21:28:33 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Thu Sep 1 23:30:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: In article , Borgholio wrote: > France is considering it. But my question is "Where's the army?" Why > hasn't marshall law been declared? "Martial" law. Also, command & control is totally hosed. Mechanized units need fuel to operate, and there's not that much available around there. The water is generally too deep for soldiers to patrol in, even with vehicles. There are some troops guarding critical places, but from what I hear not many of them have been issued live ammo. They're still organizing and the command structure is settling in and planning stuff out. Also, the military cannot declare martial law in most cases -- the governor of Louisiana must. I don't think Louisiana has the legal authority under their state constitution to institute martial law...they can declare a "state of emergency", but I don't think they can declare martial law. Not 100% sure, this is just what I've been hearing. There's a legal difference. I agree, though...martial law will be almost certainly necessary to restore order. The n'er-do-wells infesting the city have no means of self-sufficiency, are looting not for survival but for their own personal gain (where the fark are you going to plug in the stolen big-screen TVs?), and have resorted to mugging, attacking, and otherwise using violence to better themselves. After hearing earlier how boat rescue operations were suspended (are they back on?) due to private vessels run by volunteers under the auspices of FEMA taking fire from those they were trying to rescue I'm almost tempted to simply declare the city a total loss. I'm sorry, but if I'm trying to help you and you shoot at me, I'm going to a) forget about rescuing you, and b) return fire while fleeing to safety. Unfortunately, there's plenty of innocent people in need of rescue, so simply abandoning the city isn't an option. -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 00:28:35 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Thu Sep 1 23:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] President fiddles around as people die Message-ID: They say he's going to touch down in NO tomorrow, he better bring some damn food or the people will probably riot and kill the idiot. He fails to see that just showing his ass up to talk to people is NOT ENOUGH! http://villagevoice.com/news/0536,ridgewayweb2,67481,2.html What is going on in the United States? Why won't Bush take decisive action in the Hurricane Katrina disaster and send in the military? He has control of the world's mightiest military machine-thousands of planes, trucks, boats, expertly trained men and women. Where are these people? How can the National Guard be so close to providing help, as the public is told, yet still there are people dying on the sidewalks of a major city? Where has the Congress been? Why has it taken so long to call an emergency session? Why can't the federal government act? Look back at Bush as the crisis gathered: He sits on his ranch. Over and over, his government issues dire warnings of the hurricane that is coming. The mayor of New Orleans starts the evacuation. Bush sits there, still on vacation. The storm strikes. Still he sits there. Then he acts. What does he do? He extends a helping hand to the oil industry, releasing some oil from the reserves and cutting pollution control. But the price of gas rises to even higher levels. The industry need more profits. Only in America can an industrial giant get away with saying there's a shortage when they're swimming in surplus. And Bush? For him, it's one more payoff to his campaign contributors. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 00:38:00 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Thu Sep 1 23:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: "Pete Stephenson" wrote in message news:pete+usenet-FE9B1C.20283301092005@news.cesmail.net... > > The water is generally too deep for soldiers to patrol in, even with > vehicles. Too bad all those amphibious vehicles are in the desert where they don't work, eh? http://www.ww4report.com/node/1016 WNGO-TV in New Orelans noted Aug. 1 that when Louisiana National Guardsmen left for Iraq in October, they took much equipment with them, including dozens of high-water vehicles, humvees, refuelers and generators. The report stated, presciently, that "in the event of a major natural disaster that, could be a problem." "The National Guard needs that equipment back home to support the homeland security mission," said Lt. Colonel Pete Schneider with the LA National Guard. Members of the Houma-based 256th Infantry are to return in October, but it could be much longer before the rest of their equipment comes home, the report found. "You've got combatant commanders over there who need it they say they need it, they don't want to lose what they have, and we certainly understand that it's a matter of us educating that combatant commander, we need it back here as well," Col. Schneider said. The report warned that even if commanders in Iraq release the equipment, getting it home would take months. "It's just the process of identifying which equipment we're bringing home, bringing it down to Kuwait, loading it on ships or aircraft however we're gonna get it back here and then either railing it in or trucking it in, so we're talking a significant amount of time before that equipment is back home," Schneider said. (WNGO, Aug. 1) From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 00:43:10 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Thu Sep 1 23:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tragedy brings out the best in people References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:df8gmk$2ma$2@news.spamcop.net... > > Barge is totally different that a barge. FWIW the navy often set to sea in > storms as the vessels are safer when at sea. HELLO, the Navy has SHIPS! Big, heavy steel ships! > > I'd try to be as far inland as I could get (say Kansas) but close to the > coast I'd take a boat over a house. Ya think? http://tinyurl.com/akzxa http://tinyurl.com/7vaqg From pete+usenet at heypete.com Thu Sep 1 21:56:13 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Fri Sep 2 00:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: President fiddles around as people die References: Message-ID: In article , "Heidi" wrote: > What is going on in the United States? Why won't Bush take decisive > action in the Hurricane Katrina disaster and send in the military? Isn't it illegal to send active-duty troops to deal in what is essentially a state matter without Congressional approval? The Louisiana National Guard is already called up, FEMA is there, the Red Cross has a massive effort underway. Decisive action /is/ occurring, it just takes time. > He has control of the world's mightiest military machine-thousands of > planes, trucks, boats, expertly trained men and women. Where are > these people? They're there. > How can the National Guard be so close to providing help, as the > public is told, yet still there are people dying on the sidewalks of > a major city? Because there is incredible disorganization and chaos there. Things must be coordinated first, orders given, and instructions carried out. They must have the appropriate equipment, supplies, and directions in order to be of any help. Food, water, medicine, and other supplies are on their way to Louisiana on an unprecedented scale. Once they arrive, they will need to be distributed in an orderly fashion to the people who need them most. Also note that 90% of the city is underwater, thus restricting vehicular and pedestrian traffic. Soldiers, for all their positive aspects, are not supermen -- they cannot walk on water to rescue people. When people are engaging in firefights with other citizens, law enforcement, and military personnel, the mere presence of the Guard cannot magically restore order. > Where has the Congress been? Why has it taken so long to call an > emergency session? Why can't the federal government act? The federal government /is/ acting, in the form of FEMA and other agencies specifically chartered to deal with this sort of thing. The president and Congress need do nothing -- already established procedures are being executed to help deal with things. -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 22:10:12 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 00:10:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:df8hlv$36t$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Pete Stephenson" wrote in message > news:pete+usenet-FE9B1C.20283301092005@news.cesmail.net... > > > > The water is generally too deep for soldiers to patrol in, even with > > vehicles. > > Too bad all those amphibious vehicles are in the desert where they don't > work, eh? > http://www.ww4report.com/node/1016 > > WNGO-TV in New Orelans noted Aug. 1 that when Louisiana National Guardsmen > left for Iraq in October, they took much equipment with them, including > dozens of high-water vehicles, humvees, refuelers and generators. The report > stated, presciently, that "in the event of a major natural disaster that, > could be a problem." Which bright spark took high water vehicles to a desert?! From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 22:11:23 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 00:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: President fiddles around as people die References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:df8h49$2v6$1@news.spamcop.net... > They say he's going to touch down in NO tomorrow, he better bring some damn > food or the people will probably riot and kill the idiot. Oooh oooh! Let's hope they do! From captain.sisko at deep.space.nine Fri Sep 2 01:16:58 2005 From: captain.sisko at deep.space.nine (Dwayne Conyers) Date: Fri Sep 2 00:20:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: President fiddles around as people die In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: He was very decisive on wanting to prosecute looters. Well, the Black ones anyway... --- I made magic once. Now, the sofa is gone. www.dwacon.com From pete+usenet at heypete.com Thu Sep 1 22:25:55 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Fri Sep 2 00:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: In article , "Sylvesterthekat" wrote: > Which bright spark took high water vehicles to a desert?! Depends on the type of vehicle. Many armored vehicles are amphibious (Bradley IFVs and Marine Corps LAVs, for example). They are mainly designed for use on land, but are also capable of amphibious operations. That said, I doubt Bradleys or LAVs would be terribly useful in this sort of situation. Additionally, there are numerous rivers and bodies of water in Iraq that need to be effectively patrolled, hence the need for boats and other watercraft. Iraq is not a uniform desert, but consists of widely-varying terrain. -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 22:39:27 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 00:40:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] hey meanie Message-ID: http://www.techworld.com/applications/news/index.cfm?NewsID=4317 you could get on the pilot scheme for this, mayBe! The fatest broadband service yet is being offered as a trial in London by new company Be. It is offering speeds of up to 24Mb downstream and 1Mb upstream, and pilot scheme members will pay nothing until October 2005 From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 22:41:11 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 00:40:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If anyone doubts we're being gouged on gas References: Message-ID: "Pete Stephenson" wrote in message news:pete+usenet-53CD5B.17262001092005@news.cesmail.net... > Why's that? My diesel-savvy buddy says that a well-maintained turbo can > extend the life of the engine. Not sure how, as I'm not nearly as savvy > as he, but yeah. :) cos if they go wrong... oh boy From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 22:41:39 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 00:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If anyone doubts we're being gouged on gas References: Message-ID: "David Dean" wrote in message news:ozchzhq02-00F7D7.21550501092005@frylock.local... > In article , > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote: > > > holy crap, where was that? > > Northern Virginia, outside of Washington DC. Worse yet, it was almost > all two lane country roads. I'm surprised you even contemplated riding there! From rcarlton at spamcop.net Thu Sep 1 22:41:14 2005 From: rcarlton at spamcop.net (Rick Carlton) Date: Fri Sep 2 00:45:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Drumroll, please. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > Glad to be back! Now I forgot...which way to the chicken ranch? Welcome back, happy bike license, hope your DSL love is settled, etc. And at the moment - I am about 3 miles from that _very_ chicken ranch of news and musical infamy. Want (cough) a souvenir? From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 22:42:49 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 00:45:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:df860v$s4l$1@news.spamcop.net... > Can you believe I had to say, in a menacing tone, to a 45 year old "We will > not be having this conversation again - do NOT touch the thermostat in my > zone again....." hehehehe.. i bet he was really scared too From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 22:43:16 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 00:45:19 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:df865e$s82$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:df7vkd$obh$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > sounds to me like no towels are involved > > In your language, it's called "statin' the bleedin' obvious!" Like, I > shouldn't HAVE to.... hehehehehehe From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 22:44:01 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 00:45:22 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:df868o$s8b$1@news.spamcop.net... > My nose seems to be ok most of the time, most of my fleece pullovers have > kangaroo pockets to keep my hands warm when I'm sitting. I am thinking that > some fingerless gloves might be nice though, especially when it's really > cold. My hands even get cold here sometimes if I'm typing (in winter). From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 22:45:07 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 00:45:24 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:df86ho$sjp$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:df7tn0$n3k$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > look at her playing it all cool like she doesn't know where they went! > > > LOL... really, I don't. You know how small my apartment is... I have no > room for 3000 pairs of jeans...... but there's the barn..... From borgholio at storymind.com Thu Sep 1 22:45:08 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Fri Sep 2 00:45:27 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Drumroll, please. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Rick Carlton wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > >> Glad to be back! Now I forgot...which way to the chicken ranch? > > > Welcome back, happy bike license, hope your DSL love is settled, etc. Thanks, thanks, yes it is. :) > > And at the moment - I am about 3 miles from that _very_ chicken ranch of > news and musical infamy. Want (cough) a souvenir? Do they deliver? From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 22:46:32 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 00:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns96C4D1C781AFFTheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > Oh, here they are the highest of all right now. Of course, they actually > have stock which is better than many other stations. Cos everyone is going to them last, presumably! From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 22:47:36 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 00:50:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: I found a spider in my grapes..... References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:df879h$t5c$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:df7tlt$n2h$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > you are truly evil! I used to do exactly the same thing LOL > > That's how I torture those effin' Japanese beetles.....you eat my roses, > Mrs. Spider gonna eat YOU.... the hard reality of mother nature LOL (with a helping hand from Heidi) From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 22:49:15 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 00:50:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Is it just me, or is this man trying to cover something with his SO?? References: Message-ID: "David Dean" wrote in message news:ozchzhq02-7FA61E.21513601092005@frylock.local... > In article , > "indigo" wrote: > > > Some of us *do* have standards, you know.....this is a rather large woman > > we're talking about, right? > > Very large. She's a nice person, but not attractive. Maybe I'm a > weird man, but I have to get aroused in order to have sex. (strings or > not) strings? there are strings involved? string bikini? i tell you what, they got some really big folk down in New Orleans, apparently it's the diabetes capital of the country From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 22:49:51 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 00:50:16 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:df8cih$df$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message > news:Xns96C4D1F75D923TheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > > > > Yes, in fact, it has. An average price drop of 6% a year for the past 3 > > years running. Average, mind you, and not specifically with regard to > > jeans. > > Definitely not in the fleecy jeans, they've gone up .50 since I bought them > last September... 50 cents? From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 22:50:48 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 00:50:19 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tragedy brings out the best in people References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:df8eng$1hs$1@news.spamcop.net... > Given that entire barges were deposited upside down on shore, ain't no way > I'd want to be on a boat. Might as well just go inland, because that's where > the hurricane threw them anyway. LOL yeah, save you going thru the hideous sea sickness part From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Thu Sep 1 22:54:31 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 00:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tragedy brings out the best in people References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:df8gmk$2ma$2@news.spamcop.net... > Barge is totally different that a barge. FWIW the navy often set to sea in > storms as the vessels are safer when at sea. Presumably in large, well maintained ships that can withstand very heavy seas. Not a leaky shrimping boat. > > I'd try to be as far inland as I could get (say Kansas) but close to the > coast I'd take a boat over a house. I'm sure even 50 miles inland was sufficient to be safe. From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Fri Sep 2 02:30:43 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Fri Sep 2 01:35:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: In article , "Sylvesterthekat" wrote: > Has anyone heard if other countries have offered any help toward this > disaster? Everyone was very quick to go help the tsunami victims but I > haven't heard of any other nations sending rescue workers to this disaster > zone. Is that just me not paying attention? Perhaps. From Reuters: > Foreign governments line up to help after Katrina > > By Sue Pleming > > WASHINGTON, Sept 1 (Reuters) - More than 20 countries, from allies Germany > and Japan to prickly Venezuela and poor Honduras, have offered to help the > United States cope with the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. > > Accustomed to being a rich donor rather than on the receiving end of charity, > the United States initially seemed reticent about accepting foreign aid, but > later said it would take up any offers. The hurricane devastated New Orleans > and other parts of the U.S. Gulf Coast, killing hundreds and possibly > thousands. > > "Anything that can be of help to alleviate the tragic situation of the area > affected by Hurricane Katrina will be accepted," said State Department > spokesman Sean McCormack. > > The United Nations offered to help coordinate international relief efforts > for the United States. > > "The sheer size of this emergency makes it possible that we can supplement > the American response with supplies from other countries, or with experience > we have gained in other relief operations," U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan > said in a statement. > > Earlier, President George W. Bush said in a television interview that the > United States could take care of itself. > > "I'm not expecting much from foreign nations because we hadn't asked for it. > I do expect a lot of sympathy and perhaps some will send cash dollars. But > this country's going to rise up and take care of it," Bush told ABC's "Good > Morning America." > > McCormack said there had not been a change of position over accepting foreign > aid and White House spokesman Scott McClellan also said the United States > would take up offers of help. > > The State Department said offers so far had come from Belgium, Canada, > Russia, Japan, France, Germany, Britain, China, Australia, Jamaica, Honduras, > Greece, Venezuela, the Organization of American States, NATO, the > Netherlands, Switzerland, Greece, the Dominican Republic, El Salvador, > Mexico, South Korea, Israel and the United Arab Emirates. > > Assistance ranged from medical teams, boats, aircraft, tents, blankets, > generators and cash donations. ... Note what the asshat said about going it alone. Foreign countries can not send aid directly. They must make a formal offer to the U.S. government, and the government must formally accept it. Without a formal acceptance through the State Department, nothing happens. BTW, Condi Rice is busy shopping on Fifth Avenue and going to Broadway plays at the moment. -- D.F. Manno | dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com "Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under. " - H. L. Mencken From pete+usenet at heypete.com Fri Sep 2 00:35:56 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Fri Sep 2 02:40:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If anyone doubts we're being gouged on gas References: Message-ID: In article , "Sylvesterthekat" wrote: > cos if they go wrong... oh boy Indeed. Same goes with just about everything. Let's hope nothing goes wrong. :) -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From pete+usenet at heypete.com Fri Sep 2 00:38:30 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Fri Sep 2 02:40:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: In article , "D.F. Manno" wrote: > BTW, Condi Rice is busy shopping on Fifth Avenue and going to Broadway > plays at the moment. True, but is it her who actually makes the formal decision, or a bureaucrat following a policy? It seems that many people in the world are focused on what the heads of an organization are doing. In many cases, they're simply figureheads and don't really accomplish anything. If an agency can run smoothly without needing the head of the agency around to make all the decisions, that's the sign of a well-run group. Top-down micromanaging is a huge pain, especially when dealing with massive bureaucracies. -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Fri Sep 2 08:38:52 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Fri Sep 2 02:40:17 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: President fiddles around as people die In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dwayne Conyers wrote: > He was very decisive on wanting to prosecute looters. Well, the Black > ones anyway... > Excellent, he finally found something in all of this that he can declare war on. War on hurricanes? Hmm, how do you do it. War on flood victims? Maybe not. War on looters, yeah, that's it. He can pull off the whole decisive action act but this whole compassionate helping thingy, not so great on that one. From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Fri Sep 2 09:52:40 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Fri Sep 2 03:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: hey meanie In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > http://www.techworld.com/applications/news/index.cfm?NewsID=4317 > > you could get on the pilot scheme for this, mayBe! > > The fatest broadband service yet is being offered as a trial in London by > new company Be. > > It is offering speeds of up to 24Mb downstream and 1Mb upstream, and pilot > scheme members will pay nothing until October 2005 Hmm, it looks like it works with my phone number. I wonder how that would work with what I already have. I don't think I can drop BT for 12 months. I'll have to look into it more. Oh, I see, it won't be available for my exchange until Dec 2005. I guess that gives me a bit of time to think about it. I guess that gets me through half of my BT contract time then. From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 07:38:45 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Fri Sep 2 07:35:30 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: "Pete Stephenson" wrote in message news:pete+usenet-4C2CC3.23383001092005@news.cesmail.net... > In article , > "D.F. Manno" wrote: > > > BTW, Condi Rice is busy shopping on Fifth Avenue and going to Broadway > > plays at the moment. > > True, but is it her who actually makes the formal decision, or a > bureaucrat following a policy? > > It seems that many people in the world are focused on what the heads of > an organization are doing. In many cases, they're simply figureheads and > don't really accomplish anything. If an agency can run smoothly without > needing the head of the agency around to make all the decisions, that's > the sign of a well-run group. True, but one of the 'duties' of the 'figurehead' is to 'show the flag' in special circumstances. My husband is critical of Bush because he didn't show immediate concern. I am voting for Mississippi Gov (have to find out his name) for President! He is great on his interviews! Miss Betsy From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Fri Sep 2 12:40:29 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Fri Sep 2 07:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Is it just me, or is this man trying to cover something with his SO?? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:df71fg$67v$1@news.spamcop.net: > > Speaking of which, John Stewart did a brief story on a guy who was > recently killed while being, uhm, "mounted" by a stallion. > Ugh......massive internal injury. Now THAT'S sick! > That story was posted here some time ago. That had to have had a mental illness of some sort. > As long as it's dark and there's a hole to stick it >> in, most men wouldn't care if she's uglier than a hedge fence. You >> can deny it, but men know it's true, no one wants to say it out >> loud.... > > True of some men, I just meant it ain't true for guys like me, no > matter how long it's been. > > Without SOME eye candy, it is just hard to get things going. Sort of like trying to start an engine without something to crank it. :-) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Fri Sep 2 12:43:18 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Fri Sep 2 07:45:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's HOT!! References: Message-ID: JohnL wrote in news:Xns96C457FA6AD78innewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61: > > I don't remember if it was in a commercial or a movie or whatever, but > there was a scene in a ski lodge where this guy was sitting by a fire > with his leg in a cast. He got so much sympathy from the women and > after it was all over, he took off the fake cast and walked away. > THAT is as close to a broken leg as I would like to get! ;-) > Hmmm.. now that does bear some good possibilities next time I decide to go skiing. :-) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Fri Sep 2 12:47:14 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Fri Sep 2 07:50:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Does anyone know if Cat is OK? References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in news:df72og$7a4$1@news.spamcop.net: > > If you are planning to be anywhere in or near NOLA: Unless you can be > POSITIVE you will have a safe environment I'd recommend against the > trip. You will be WITHOUT communications, any way to provide for your > own needs and unable to leave without assistance. Not to mention that > the area has been classed bio-hazardous. > Highly aware of that. We were given a list of things we will need while there. There was a lot of co-workers wanting to volunteer so not everyone will be able to go. Going to find out by tomorrow to see what is what. From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Fri Sep 2 12:49:02 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Fri Sep 2 07:50:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:df70g1$5fq$1@news.spamcop.net: > > At least I'm not sneaking around behind everyone's back having secret > chat room sessions! > Whose sneaking? Was only talking about the use of those goofy abbreviations and when it was good to allow for them. Then YOU had to TWIST it all around into some [HEIDI] "peeverted" [/HEIDI] topic. :-) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Fri Sep 2 12:53:02 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Fri Sep 2 07:55:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in news:df863b$s5l$1 @news.spamcop.net: > > "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message > news:Xns96C4BCAA8CE13TheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... >> >> Could be, but I get my diesel from Irving and they do not refine down >> south, eh? (Their diesel is the only one to use - it is formulated to >> withstand winters around here. Oddly, the other diesels sold here >> aren't...) > > They might not refine down south, but they're taking full advantage of > ripping off the public, their prices are the highest in my area, with the > possible exception of Mobile. > > It appears that they are. I don't get why CA is seing such a large hike since the gas for here is refined in CA. Either way, I just tanked up my car for $30 at $2.96/gal. This will last me for about 1 to 1.5 weeks. From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Fri Sep 2 12:53:43 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Fri Sep 2 07:55:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: David Dean wrote in news:ozchzhq02-CCD52F.08225201092005@frylock.local: > > LSD is gonna make a comeback. (In the form of Low Sulphur Diesel, > that is.) > Wouldn't mind owning a diesel vehicle. From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Fri Sep 2 12:54:46 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Fri Sep 2 07:55:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: LOL.. F*cking, Austria References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:df7q4g$kmm$1@news.spamcop.net: > > Intercourse is a _town_ in PA Amish country. And yes, they sell a ton > of tee shirts. Blue Ball is also a lovely town in the same area, but I > always dreaded going there..... > > Doesn't mix with golfing eh? :-) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Fri Sep 2 12:59:24 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Fri Sep 2 08:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: President fiddles around as people die References: Message-ID: On the other side of things.. where the heck is the local government? I would of figured that the city and state government would of had some kind of contingency plan just in case of such a disaster. First line of defense would be the city first, then the state, followed by federal. From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Fri Sep 2 13:00:59 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Fri Sep 2 08:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in news:df8egf$1c7$1@news.spamcop.net: > Has anyone heard if other countries have offered any help toward this > disaster? Everyone was very quick to go help the tsunami victims but I > haven't heard of any other nations sending rescue workers to this > disaster zone. Is that just me not paying attention? This looks to me > just as bad as what happened in the tsunami as far as local > destruction and flooding goes. With the added bonus of gun toting > maniacs going about raping and pillaging. > > I heard from the radio that about 24 countries offered help.. but with no details. So I don't really know what is going on there. From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Fri Sep 2 13:01:41 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Fri Sep 2 08:05:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote in news:df8f80$sog$3@news.spamcop.net: >> >> > > France is considering it. But my question is "Where's the army?" Why > hasn't marshall law been declared? Nice to see you back.. how did you manage to get by the block? (If you don't me asking of course. :-)) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Fri Sep 2 13:07:40 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Fri Sep 2 08:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: Pete Stephenson wrote in news:pete+usenet- FE9B1C.20283301092005@news.cesmail.net: > > They're still organizing and the command structure is settling in and > planning stuff out. Also, the military cannot declare martial law in > most cases -- the governor of Louisiana must. I don't think Louisiana > has the legal authority under their state constitution to institute > martial law...they can declare a "state of emergency", but I don't think > they can declare martial law. Not 100% sure, this is just what I've been > hearing. There's a legal difference. > I wonder if the military have thought about positioning themselves in the French Quarter. It seems to be have come through the storm fairly unscathed. From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Fri Sep 2 13:09:34 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Fri Sep 2 08:10:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: hitting the road References: Message-ID: "Bcs1" wrote in news:df83uu$qo1$1@news.spamcop.net: > > So I'm thinking that in about 3 weeks i'ma hitch up the wagons, > feed/water > the horses, and head west............. > /nostalgic feeling washes over the room/ > I guess it'll be like the good old days ........ > /wakes up/ > > Bill > The weather is quite nice out here. :-) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Fri Sep 2 13:11:07 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Fri Sep 2 08:15:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Ping all beer gurus References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote in news:df83ij$p2j$2@news.spamcop.net: > I'm not much of a drinker...last beverage I had was a year ago or so. > But I've always wanted to try some Mead. The fact that it's made from > honey really interests me. Anybody out there ever try the stuff? > Does it taste / smell / go down like ordinary beer? Where would I > find some good quality mead to try out? Have some Steel Reserve... its like getting hit with an I-beam. :-) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Fri Sep 2 13:14:18 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Fri Sep 2 08:15:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Biodiesel recipe? References: Message-ID: Pete Stephenson wrote in news:pete+usenet-FC88B1.20204301092005@news.cesmail.net: > In article , > Charles <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote: > >> Those are the old prices, for one. Surely with the present troubles >> the price will rise. For another, FP is talking about a price under >> a buck. And, hey, the stuff works for fuel oil as well. > > Do you think the price would rise? Their supply of waste vegetable oil > from food establishments and whatnot is still steady. They don't use > any petroleum in it, so I can't imagine why their costs would rise at > all. > > But yeah, I'd be interested in FP's information as well. > If more people start using and demand rises.. prices will rise if supply doesn't keep up with demand. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 09:38:51 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 08:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: sounds bloody awful References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:df50u3$v9q$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Maybe they like having fresh water to drink? > > doesn't have to be right there though and in a dangerous situation Do you know if it's man made or not? There's big lakes surrounding NO if you look at a map of the area. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 09:40:53 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 08:45:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: sounds bloody awful References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > > > They're in charge of all the waterways in the country. Wetlands > > too. S'posed to control all flooding and protect the environment. > > OIC. Hmm... guess they're gonna have to have a rethink on cost benefit > analysis. They helped create the problem by creating all the levees and canals all up and down the Mississippi River that blocks the sediment from keeping the Delta built up (the Delta used to protect NO from flooding way back when). From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 09:47:40 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 08:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas over $3.00 today... References: Message-ID: JohnL wrote: > > We'll probably hit $5 before you. :( We won't be far behind. BP stations raised their prices twice yesterday for a total increase of 99 cents! I expect all the other ones will follow. Dammit, why didn't I gas up on Wednesday....... From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 09:49:36 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 08:50:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If anyone doubts we're being gouged on gas References: Message-ID: Pete Stephenson wrote: > In article , > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote: > > > cos if they go wrong... oh boy > > Indeed. Same goes with just about everything. > > Let's hope nothing goes wrong. :) Not *everything* is going to cost you $1500-$2000 to fix, Petey.....turbo bearings _will_ burn out eventually. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 09:50:59 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 08:55:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If anyone doubts we're being gouged on gas References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:df6vo0$50b$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Where in the hell is there a road where it is legal to ride a bike > > next to cars going that fast? > > dual carriageways in the UK allow bicycles, speed limit on those is 70 That's insane. On the part of the biker too. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 09:52:10 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 08:55:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If anyone doubts we're being gouged on gas References: Message-ID: David Dean wrote: > In article , > "indigo" wrote: > > > Where in the hell is there a road where it is legal to ride a bike > > next to cars going that fast? > > Its not legal for the cars to go that fast. I did mention that the > drivers had little regard for the law didn't I? Try complaining to the local cops! Sheesh, anyone in my county can make a complaint to the cops and they'll come out and set up a radar trap to lighten the lead in those driver's feet. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 09:53:59 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 08:55:17 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: . > > why not make it 50 during the day then switch it up a little earlier > (so if at the moment it's programmed to come on at 6pm to 68, instead > have it come on at 5.30 or 5pm to allow for the extra time it'd take > to warm up to 68) There's a fine balance point somewhere -- you don't want all of the house thermal mass to get too cold, it would take more energy to heat it all back up than you'd save. Plus, I don't want to kill of of my house plants! From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 09:55:28 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 09:00:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "D.F. Manno" wrote in message > news:dfm2a3l0t2-B2E457.19343801092005@news.cesmail.net... > > > Cos it all comes from the same source? > > > > I didn't know ExxonMobil was in the natural-gas gouging business, > > too. > > I don't know who sells it, but it comes out the same hole. There *are* purely natural gas well fields too, you know........ From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 09:58:02 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 09:00:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: Heidi wrote: > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:df7vkd$obh$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > sounds to me like no towels are involved > > In your language, it's called "statin' the bleedin' obvious!" Like, > I shouldn't HAVE to.... Give it up already woman! From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 09:59:08 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 09:00:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: Charles wrote: > > Yes, in fact, it has. An average price drop of 6% a year for the > past 3 years running. Average, mind you, and not specifically with > regard to jeans. I can vouch for that. Jeans prices are definitely lower these days, all brands, including Levi's. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 10:00:29 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 09:05:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: Redstone wrote: > "indigo" wrote in > news:df70g1$5fq$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > > > > At least I'm not sneaking around behind everyone's back having > > secret chat room sessions! > > > > Whose sneaking? You and Bill! From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 10:01:42 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 09:05:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: LOL.. F*cking, Austria References: Message-ID: Redstone wrote: > "indigo" wrote in > news:df7q4g$kmm$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > > > Intercourse is a _town_ in PA Amish country. And yes, they sell a > > ton of tee shirts. Blue Ball is also a lovely town in the same > > area, but I always dreaded going there..... > > > > > > Doesn't mix with golfing eh? :-) WHOOSH! Right over his head.... From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 10:07:27 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 09:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: "Redstone" wrote in message news:Xns96C5342E82DDEtinlc@216.154.195.61... > > I wonder if the military have thought about positioning themselves in the > French Quarter. It seems to be have come through the storm fairly > unscathed. It was until the levees broke and flooded the place. I heard on tv that cops are turning in their badges because they're outnumbered by the looters. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 10:12:21 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 09:15:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tragedy brings out the best in people References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > Let's hope she saw sense and took to the hills instead! The hills of New Orleans? LOL. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 10:13:21 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 09:15:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tragedy brings out the best in people References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > Given I had to ride out in a house withint 6 miles of the coast or in > a boat I'd take the boat. I was going to say the same thing....those shrimpers are pretty tough boats, ain't they? From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 10:19:24 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 09:25:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Enlightening interview... Message-ID: On the radio this morning with a resident of Houston who lives within a mile of the Astrodome. They are horrified at the lack of planning, in every way, for what 25K unemployed homeless people are going to do all day. They will not be prisoners in the Superdome, they can come and go as they please, no security, no screening, some supposedly had been evacuated from jails in the hurricane. The local police say "we're not worried and we have no plans to do anything" about security of the residents already there. The refugees are being told "you'll have hot showers, etc", when there are TWO locker rooms with maybe 15 showers each - the place is going to be a dump in no time, like the Superdome was. The homeless people in Houston are trying to get into the Astrodome because it's better than what they have now. He said 'we have a streetcorner problem, everyone dreads getting a red light because 18 people descend on your car looking for handouts', what's it going to be like with 25K more people with nothing to do all day start roaming the streets? And when those kids stay in the area and have to go to school, their school system will be overloaded, it's at capacity now. He wondered why they weren't being moved to military base housing on all these bases they have closed or want to close. Even military barracks would be better than the Astrodome. They're kind of shitting their pants down there.... From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 10:21:52 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 09:25:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: hitting the road References: Message-ID: "Bcs1" wrote in message news:df83uu$qo1$1@news.spamcop.net... > So I'm thinking that in about 3 weeks i'ma hitch up the wagons, feed/water > the horses, and head west............. > /nostalgic feeling washes over the room/ > I guess it'll be like the good old days ........ > /wakes up/ There's certainly going to be a need for people with skills like yours in the rebuilding, especially in the computer biz, so it might be a long term source of work.... not sure I'd want to live there, though. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 10:51:30 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 09:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas over $3.00 today... References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:df9hlc$kra$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > JohnL wrote: > > > > We'll probably hit $5 before you. :( > > We won't be far behind. BP stations raised their prices twice yesterday for > a total increase of 99 cents! I expect all the other ones will follow. > Dammit, why didn't I gas up on Wednesday....... The news did a story on gouging this morning, one woman, I don't know where, said she was charged $8.00 for 1 gallon of gas..... From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 11:00:19 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 10:05:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:df8l5o$542$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Heidi" wrote in message > > not be having this conversation again - do NOT touch the thermostat in my > > zone again....." > > hehehehe.. i bet he was really scared too If he quit I wouldn't miss him, I've never seen an adult act so childish, I can just imagine him as a child digging his heels in and saying 'NO' just for the sake of it. If he doesn't like the Rules, then the Rules don't apply to him. For example, in our lease it is detailed where we are supposed to park to leave front spaces for customers. He refuses to park where the rest of us do because he's afraid someone will ding his white Mercedes. He's been confronted numerous times by the landlord and he just stands there and looks at him like "you can't make me". I REALLY wish they'd call a tow truck and haul his car off, that would be hilarious....... From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 11:02:27 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 10:05:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns96C553EF773BFTheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > Which is surely several dollars less than a few years ago. I don't know about that, if I can find my receipts I'll let you know. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 11:06:52 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 10:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: "David Dean" wrote in message news:ozchzhq02-C497F4.09372702092005@frylock.local... > > I heard on tv that cops are > > turning in their badges because they're outnumbered by the looters. > > Well, they governor is wants to improve those numbers by having the > national guard kill looters. I don't see where they have a choice, if they're being attacked by violent gangs of looters, shooting at rescue helicopters, for god's sake, they need to take them down by whatever means necessary. What's going on down there is like what happens in third world countries. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 11:19:31 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 10:20:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tragedy brings out the best in people References: Message-ID: Eponym wrote: > > It would have to be a very big seaworthy boat! I rode out hurricane > Gloria in '85 on a sub...only time in my life I've ever been seasick > was on our way out. We had waves breaking over the conning tower > (about 40')...and once we submerged could feel the waves at 200'. > Hurricanes are nasty! Guy I work with was in the Navy, served on a carrier. He got caught in a cyclone somewhere in the South Pacific that was so bad that waves were breaking over the bow of THAT sized ship! (IIRC it was nearly 100 ft tall at the bow). From Unknown.User at Invalid.Domain Fri Sep 2 11:19:29 2005 From: Unknown.User at Invalid.Domain (Jan M. Nelken) Date: Fri Sep 2 10:20:18 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > I don't see where they have a choice, if they're being attacked by violent gangs of > looters, shooting at rescue helicopters, for god's sake, they need to take them down > by whatever means necessary. What's going on down there is like what happens in third > world countries. It is happening in third world country after all... Jan M. Nelken From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 11:25:02 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 10:30:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Is it just me, or is this man trying to cover something with his SO?? References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "David Dean" wrote in message > news:ozchzhq02-F73813.07280601092005@frylock.local... > > In article , > > Redstone wrote: > > > > > She is probably a good performer then to keep the guys interested. > > > > I just haven't figured out how they get interested. > > Perhaps there's a secret nod or wink that indicates special tricks > are up her sleeve? >From the sounds of it I wouldn't be surprised if she just walks up to guys and squeezes their crotch...... From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 11:26:01 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 10:30:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Is it just me, or is this man trying to cover something with his SO?? References: Message-ID: David Dean wrote: > In article , > "indigo" wrote: > > > Some of us *do* have standards, you know.....this is a rather large > > woman we're talking about, right? > > Very large. She's a nice person, but not attractive. Maybe I'm a > weird man, but I have to get aroused in order to have sex. (strings or > not) In the back of my head I was thinking the exact same thing, I just didn't type it out ;-) From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 11:28:13 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 10:30:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Drumroll, please. References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > > I was told by Jeff to just wait a couple weeks while "something" was > sorted out. Looks like it was. :) I hope you emailed a big "thank you" to him! We need to keep on JT 's good side or he'll just shut us down..... From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 11:27:30 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 10:30:19 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: "Jan M. Nelken" wrote in message news:df9n27$o58$1@news.spamcop.net... > Spamvireslayer wrote: > > > I don't see where they have a choice, if they're being attacked by violent gangs of > > looters, shooting at rescue helicopters, for god's sake, they need to take them down > > by whatever means necessary. What's going on down there is like what happens in third > > world countries. > > It is happening in third world country after all... It would appear that way, and I think Bush's pride is a little bruised and he's embarrassed that the entire world is watching us fail miserably at taking care of our own disasters. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 11:32:58 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 10:35:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: hitting the road References: Message-ID: Bcs1 wrote: > > So I'm thinking that in about 3 weeks i'ma hitch up the wagons, > feed/water the horses, and head west............. Erm, dontcha need to go south? From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 11:34:53 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 10:35:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > A bit of searching on google news revealed that the US government is > rejecting offers of help so yet again we can thank Mr Asshole Bush for > screwing things up. He probably doesn't want us to appear "weak" in the eyes of our enemies.....swallow your fscking pride and accept the help, dammit! At least take any money offered. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 11:38:26 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 10:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "Redstone" wrote in message > news:Xns96C5342E82DDEtinlc@216.154.195.61... > > > > I wonder if the military have thought about positioning themselves > > in the French Quarter. It seems to be have come through the storm > > fairly unscathed. > > It was until the levees broke and flooded the place. I heard on tv > that cops are turning in their badges because they're outnumbered by > the looters. I also read that lots of cops are gathering their families and skipping town because there is no command structure telling them what to do (and getting shot at while trying to help rescue folks sure don't help!) From pete+usenet at heypete.com Fri Sep 2 08:43:13 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Fri Sep 2 10:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Biodiesel recipe? References: Message-ID: In article , Redstone wrote: > If more people start using and demand rises.. prices will rise if supply > doesn't keep up with demand. Agreed. To be honest, I don't know what their demand is, nor do I have enough information to speculate or even make a WAG. :) -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From pete+usenet at heypete.com Fri Sep 2 08:55:31 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Fri Sep 2 10:55:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: In article , "Spamvireslayer" wrote: > It would appear that way, and I think Bush's pride is a little > bruised and he's embarrassed that the entire world is watching us > fail miserably at taking care of our own disasters. Fail miserably? How are things failing miserably? With the south-east asia tsunami, it took several weeks for a lot of the relief operations to really get going. Right now, the operations are happening in a moderately uncoordinated way due to conditions on-site. Once the flooding is brought under control and the pumps brought online can relief efforts begin in earnest. How is the largest domestic relief effort in United States history (and /the/ largest ever, according to the Red Cross) "failing miserably"? Please look at the big picture here -- right now, there's only so much rescuers, the military, and the Red Cross can do. Efforts are underway to deliver supplies, but they're limited by the amount of flooding. People are working on patching the breaches in the levees and getting the pumps going again. Once that's done, I think you'll see things progressing at a very rapid pace -- there's plenty of personnel and supplies staged and ready to move in. Also, take into account that some of the people in New Orleans are /shooting at their rescuers/. One of the main jobs of Search & Rescue is "don't become another victim", so I can see why they're not eager to go in there right now while being shot at. Things are not failing miserably; this is pretty much par for the course in disaster recovery. Nobody can just magically snap their fingers and make everything better again; things need to be done in a certain order to maximize the rescue efforts. -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 11:59:09 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 11:05:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:df9nue$otl$1@news.spamcop.net... > > He probably doesn't want us to appear "weak" in the eyes of our > enemies.....swallow your fscking pride and accept the help, dammit! At least > take any money offered. The fact that his hurricane was tracked for a week or more, there was no mandatory evacuation busing of people without means to leave, there was no relief on alert poised to get in there in a hurry, and the hospital ship is only just now leaving the east coast, says something about the horrendous failure to prepare. No wonder it's taking so long, everyone's acting like they were surprised. I saw Harry Connick on TV this morning, he says the roads are wide open NO, there is no reason why truckloads of food and water and other assistance shouldn't be appearing, but they're not. He was utterly horrified by what he saw at the refugee centers, babies with their eyes bulging from dehydration, people without food, without medical treatment or medicine and no hope of getting any, there shouldn't be any need for this to be going on. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 12:02:16 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 11:05:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: "Pete Stephenson" wrote in message news:pete+usenet-C4712F.07553102092005@news.cesmail.net... > > Fail miserably? How are things failing miserably? Are you shitting me? http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/09/01/national/a155306D82.DTL In hopes of defusing the situation at the convention center, Mayor Ray Nagin gave the refugees permission to march across a bridge to the city's unflooded west bank for whatever relief they could find. But the bedlam made that difficult. "This is a desperate SOS," Nagin said in a statement. "Right now we are out of resources at the convention center and don't anticipate enough buses." At least seven bodies were scattered outside the convention center, a makeshift staging area for those rescued from rooftops, attics and highways. The sidewalks were packed with people without food, water or medical care, and with no sign of law enforcement. An old man in a chaise lounge lay dead in a grassy median as hungry babies wailed around him. Around the corner, an elderly woman lay dead in her wheelchair, covered up by a blanket, and another body lay beside her wrapped in a sheet. "I don't treat my dog like that," 47-year-old Daniel Edwards said as he pointed at the woman in the wheelchair. "You can do everything for other countries, but you can't do nothing for your own people," he added. "You can go overseas with the military, but you can't get them down here." The street outside the center, above the floodwaters, smelled of urine and feces, and was choked with dirty diapers, old bottles and garbage. "They've been teasing us with buses for four days," Edwards said. "They're telling us they're going to come get us one day, and then they don't show up." From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 12:03:01 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 11:05:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:df9o53$p05$1@news.spamcop.net... > > I also read that lots of cops are gathering their families and skipping town > because there is no command structure telling them what to do (and getting > shot at while trying to help rescue folks sure don't help!) How and why could there be no command structure? Isn't there a disaster plan? From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 12:13:21 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 11:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Venezuela even offered aid..... Message-ID: Good thing we didn't manage to pick him off yet, isn't it? http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/09/02/us_sends_mixed_signals_on_accepting_aid_from_abroad/ Perhaps the most unusual offer came from Hugo Chavez, the socialist leader of Venezuela who is openly hostile to the US government. On Wednesday, Chavez offered drinking water, food, and oil to the United States. Later, Chavez told Venezuelan television that Bush was a ''cowboy" and the ''king of vacations" who had failed to evacuate the population of New Orleans before the hurricane hit. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 16:32:26 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Bush Lied) Date: Fri Sep 2 11:35:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: President fiddles around as people die References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote: > They say he's going to touch down in NO tomorrow, he better bring some > damn food or the people will probably riot and kill the idiot. He fails > to see that just showing his ass up to talk to people is NOT ENOUGH! Chickenshit asshole isn't even going into the hardest-hit areas, instead he's going to do an aerial tour of the Mississippi coastline and make a speech at the New Orleans airport: http://tinyurl.com/8ka8c. Lotta good that will do for the hurricane victims. Must be nice to live inside that insular bubble like he does, hopefully the Repubs will pay dearly for it at the polls next time. -- Bush Lied, Thousands Died. Do you know the real George W. Bush? http://www.bushwatch.com/bushlies.htm From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 12:40:14 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 11:45:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: President fiddles around as people die References: Message-ID: "Bush Lied" wrote in message news:df9ra6$r3e$1@news.spamcop.net... FUCK OFF, TROLL. From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 10:19:30 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 12:20:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Venezuela even offered aid..... References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:df9q86$qhf$1@news.spamcop.net... > Later, Chavez told Venezuelan television that Bush was a ''cowboy" and the ''king of > vacations" who had failed to evacuate the population of New Orleans before the > hurricane hit. Well he certainly hit THAT nail on the head! It mystifies me why people weren't evacuated in buses BEFORE the hurricane hit. It'd be a hell of a lot easier to do it that way around and save a lot of lives. From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 10:23:09 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 12:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Enlightening interview... References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:df9jih$m1c$1@news.spamcop.net... > On the radio this morning with a resident of Houston who lives within a mile of the > Astrodome. They are horrified at the lack of planning, in every way, for what 25K > unemployed homeless people are going to do all day. They will not be prisoners in > the Superdome, they can come and go as they please, no security, no screening, some > supposedly had been evacuated from jails in the hurricane. The local police say > "we're not worried and we have no plans to do anything" about security of the > residents already there. The refugees are being told "you'll have hot showers, etc", > when there are TWO locker rooms with maybe 15 showers each - the place is going to be > a dump in no time, like the Superdome was. The homeless people in Houston are trying > to get into the Astrodome because it's better than what they have now. He said 'we > have a streetcorner problem, everyone dreads getting a red light because 18 people > descend on your car looking for handouts', what's it going to be like with 25K more > people with nothing to do all day start roaming the streets? And when those kids stay > in the area and have to go to school, their school system will be overloaded, it's at > capacity now. He wondered why they weren't being moved to military base housing on > all these bases they have closed or want to close. Even military barracks would be > better than the Astrodome. They're kind of shitting their pants down there.... I too had been wondering how it was going to affect Houston. It would be better, perhaps, to have split the numbers up between several surrouding cities so there wasn't an overwhelming mass all in one place. Chances are that many of these people will just decide to stay in Houston long term since they've got nothing to go back to in NO. From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 10:24:15 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 12:25:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: "D.F. Manno" wrote in message news:dfm2a3l0t2-B2A427.01304302092005@news.cesmail.net... > Note what the asshat said about going it alone. Yes, I eventually discovered that yet again it was HIS fault that there's no international aid. > BTW, Condi Rice is busy shopping on Fifth Avenue and going to Broadway > plays at the moment. You're joking?! From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 13:21:02 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Fri Sep 2 12:25:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Me & Mine Online specific damage map References: <010920052057267583%Curtis@abcd.fake> Message-ID: | http://www.scipionus.com/ | http://ngs.woc.noaa.gov/katrina/KATRINA0000.HTM http://ngs.woc.noaa.gov/katrina/ http://ngs.woc.noaa.gov/katrina/089I30C_KATRINA.HTM Our place *was* in the lower right hand of the map about 2/3 of the way between the beach and the RR tracks. http://ngs.woc.noaa.gov/storms/katrina/24331220.jpg sorry I can't be more specific as I am having a hard time recognizing ANY land marks. From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 10:25:35 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 12:25:18 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: "Pete Stephenson" wrote in message news:pete+usenet-4C2CC3.23383001092005@news.cesmail.net... > In article , > "D.F. Manno" wrote: > > > BTW, Condi Rice is busy shopping on Fifth Avenue and going to Broadway > > plays at the moment. > > True, but is it her who actually makes the formal decision, or a > bureaucrat following a policy? Her doing basically nothing but shop and party doesn't send out a good image. She should be doing something to help, even if that's not her job. From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 10:27:03 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 12:25:24 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: hey meanie References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" <35zyuhr02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:df90ca$ba5$1@news.spamcop.net... > Hmm, it looks like it works with my phone number. I wonder how that > would work with what I already have. I don't think I can drop BT for 12 > months. I'll have to look into it more. > > Oh, I see, it won't be available for my exchange until Dec 2005. I > guess that gives me a bit of time to think about it. I guess that gets > me through half of my BT contract time then. Oh bummer, well that means you don't qualify for the free bit then. I guess if BT don't up their service to something comparable by the time your contract runs out, you'll have the option to change. From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 10:29:56 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 12:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "Redstone" wrote in message news:Xns96C531B3377ECtinlc@216.154.195.61... > It appears that they are. I don't get why CA is seing such a large hike > since the gas for here is refined in CA. Indeed, it's a mystery because as far as I'm aware, 'our' gas isn't being sent east to help supplies there. Or is it? > > Either way, I just tanked up my car for $30 at $2.96/gal. This will last > me for about 1 to 1.5 weeks. Let me go see what it is across the street this morning. Yesterday it was 3.02 for regular.... today it's 3.02! Surprise surprise, a day of stability. From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 10:32:13 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 12:35:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If anyone doubts we're being gouged on gas References: Message-ID: "David Dean" wrote in message news:ozchzhq02-FB9349.08160802092005@frylock.local... > In article , > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote: > > > I'm surprised you even contemplated riding there! > > At the time, I had no choice. My wife was out of state with our only > car. Dang. I think i'd have rented a car LOL From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 10:32:35 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 12:35:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Is it just me, or is this man trying to cover something with his SO?? References: Message-ID: "David Dean" wrote in message news:ozchzhq02-CBA52F.08174602092005@frylock.local... > In article , > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote: > > > strings? there are strings involved? string bikini? > > IIRC, S-kat said something about sex with no strings being what the > men wanted. It was probably Heidi. From borgholio at storymind.com Fri Sep 2 10:31:54 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Fri Sep 2 12:35:16 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Redstone wrote: > Borgholio wrote in > news:df8f80$sog$3@news.spamcop.net: > > > >>> >>France is considering it. But my question is "Where's the army?" Why >>hasn't marshall law been declared? > > > > Nice to see you back.. how did you manage to get by the block? (If you > don't me asking of course. :-)) > Dunno, really. Jeff said that it'd clear up automatically in a couple weeks. Well, here I am. :) From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 10:35:24 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 12:35:19 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: sounds bloody awful References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:df9h4s$kfs$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > "indigo" wrote in message > > news:df50u3$v9q$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Maybe they like having fresh water to drink? > > > > doesn't have to be right there though and in a dangerous situation > > Do you know if it's man made or not? There's big lakes surrounding NO if you > look at a map of the area. Doesn't matter if it's man made or not. They can divert the water away and drain it if they put enough money and effort into it. Depends on how badly they want to save New Orleans and stop the same thing happening again. What's even scarier is the way the Mississippi lurks right above the city too! From borgholio at storymind.com Fri Sep 2 10:34:18 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Fri Sep 2 12:35:25 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "Jan M. Nelken" wrote in message > news:df9n27$o58$1@news.spamcop.net... > >>Spamvireslayer wrote: >> >> >>>I don't see where they have a choice, if they're being attacked by violent gangs > > of > >>>looters, shooting at rescue helicopters, for god's sake, they need to take them > > down > >>>by whatever means necessary. What's going on down there is like what happens in > > third > >>>world countries. >> >>It is happening in third world country after all... > > > It would appear that way, and I think Bush's pride is a little bruised and he's > embarrassed that the entire world is watching us fail miserably at taking care of our > own disasters. > > HE is embarrassed? Hell, I'M EMBARRASSED! From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 10:37:11 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 12:40:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: sounds bloody awful References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:df9h8m$kl7$1@news.spamcop.net... > They helped create the problem by creating all the levees and canals all up > and down the Mississippi River that blocks the sediment from keeping the > Delta built up (the Delta used to protect NO from flooding way back when). Presumably because the river wouldn't be navigable if they didn't do that. Maybe they ought to build a big ass pipeling that carries some of the water away from there into desert areas like the south west. Sure, it'd cost a lot but California and Nevada are very thirsty and pretty soon our water supply isn't going to be sufficient. From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 10:38:04 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 12:40:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas over $3.00 today... References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:df9hlc$kra$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > JohnL wrote: > > > > We'll probably hit $5 before you. :( > > We won't be far behind. BP stations raised their prices twice yesterday for > a total increase of 99 cents! I expect all the other ones will follow. > Dammit, why didn't I gas up on Wednesday....... Did you gas up today? Better get yourself a container of gas to keep in your garage, just in case there's none to be had for a couple of days. From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 10:39:00 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 12:40:18 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If anyone doubts we're being gouged on gas References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:df9hrk$l25$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > "indigo" wrote in message > > news:df6vo0$50b$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Where in the hell is there a road where it is legal to ride a bike > > > next to cars going that fast? > > > > dual carriageways in the UK allow bicycles, speed limit on those is 70 > > That's insane. On the part of the biker too. Ayup. Wouldn't catch me doing it, that's for sure! There is a sort of side lane but still, drivers are careless and accidents happen. From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 10:40:13 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 12:40:24 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:df9i17$l3s$1@news.spamcop.net... > There's a fine balance point somewhere -- you don't want all of the house > thermal mass to get too cold, it would take more energy to heat it all back > up than you'd save. Plus, I don't want to kill of of my house plants! Hmm. True true... but I think 55 would be ok. Do a bit of experimenting if the price really does go thru the roof. From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 10:42:13 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 12:45:32 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tragedy brings out the best in people References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:df9j3m$ls4$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > > > Let's hope she saw sense and took to the hills instead! > > The hills of New Orleans? LOL. gawd.. does nobody know the expression 'take to the hills' around here?! From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 10:43:15 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 12:46:36 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas over $3.00 today... References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:df9leo$n8c$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "indigo" wrote in message news:df9hlc$kra$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > > > JohnL wrote: > > > > > > We'll probably hit $5 before you. :( > > > > We won't be far behind. BP stations raised their prices twice yesterday for > > a total increase of 99 cents! I expect all the other ones will follow. > > Dammit, why didn't I gas up on Wednesday....... > > The news did a story on gouging this morning, one woman, I don't know where, said she > was charged $8.00 for 1 gallon of gas..... holy shit.. now THAT is gouging! From turan.fe at web.de Fri Sep 2 19:42:07 2005 From: turan.fe at web.de (Turan Fettahoglu) Date: Fri Sep 2 12:46:41 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas over $3.00 today... References: Message-ID: > Drove past Shell on the way to gym this morning and gas was like in the > $3.45 range. > Any bets on when it hits $5 per gal.? You already lost your bet. Here in Germany premium unleaded is 1.46 Euro/litre, that should be some 6.89 $ per US gallon. Turan From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 10:44:43 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 12:46:45 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:df9lv8$nj4$1@news.spamcop.net... > If he quit I wouldn't miss him, I've never seen an adult act so childish, I can just > imagine him as a child digging his heels in and saying 'NO' just for the sake of it. > If he doesn't like the Rules, then the Rules don't apply to him. For example, in our > lease it is detailed where we are supposed to park to leave front spaces for > customers. He refuses to park where the rest of us do because he's afraid someone > will ding his white Mercedes. He's been confronted numerous times by the landlord > and he just stands there and looks at him like "you can't make me". I REALLY wish > they'd call a tow truck and haul his car off, that would be hilarious....... In the area where the rest of you park your cars, is there more or less coming and going than out front where he parks his? Wherever there's the most coming and going is where he's most likely to get dinged. From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 10:45:50 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 12:46:53 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Is it just me, or is this man trying to cover something with his SO?? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:df9nbv$oj6$1@news.spamcop.net... > From the sounds of it I wouldn't be surprised if she just walks up to guys > and squeezes their crotch...... ROFL... would that work?! From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 13:40:12 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Fri Sep 2 12:46:58 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas over $3.00 today... References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:df9v1i$tfa$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Did you gas up today? Better get yourself a container of gas to keep in your > garage, just in case there's none to be had for a couple of days. Just went through town on the way home at lunch - gas has gone up 20 cents overnight, I'm betting that none of these places has had a new delivery either. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 13:44:25 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 12:47:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:df9o53$p05$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > I also read that lots of cops are gathering their families and > > skipping town because there is no command structure telling them > > what to do (and getting shot at while trying to help rescue folks > > sure don't help!) > > How and why could there be no command structure? Isn't there a > disaster plan? Hell, from what I know they don't even have a FEMA command and control center up and running yet! How are you supposed to communicate with your cops with no phones, no radios, no power, no police stations or patrol cars? As far as a disaster plan, surely they must have had one, but without any resources to execute it....... From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 10:46:58 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 12:47:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:df9ni7$ok5$1@news.spamcop.net... > It would appear that way, and I think Bush's pride is a little bruised and he's > embarrassed that the entire world is watching us fail miserably at taking care of our > own disasters. It doesn't help of course that criminals here are so well armed compared to other disaster hit areas. From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 10:48:17 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 12:50:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:df9nue$otl$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > A bit of searching on google news revealed that the US government is > > rejecting offers of help so yet again we can thank Mr Asshole Bush for > > screwing things up. > > He probably doesn't want us to appear "weak" in the eyes of our > enemies.....swallow your fscking pride and accept the help, dammit! At least > take any money offered. Yeah, and while he sits there worrying about pride, people are suffering horribly. I mean just being there in that heat with no water would be bad enough. Never mind all the shooting, looting, filth, bodies, lack of shelter, lack of food. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 13:43:33 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Fri Sep 2 12:50:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tragedy brings out the best in people References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:df9v9a$tlj$1@news.spamcop.net... > > gawd.. does nobody know the expression 'take to the hills' around here?! Annoying how SOME people can be so pedantic and literal, isn't? *I* knew what you meant.... And I would have taken off for the hills of South Dakota or something.... From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Fri Sep 2 17:48:10 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Fri Sep 2 12:50:20 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas over $3.00 today... References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in news:df9vgn$trr$1@news.spamcop.net: > Just went through town on the way home at lunch - gas has gone up 20 > cents overnight, I'm betting that none of these places has had a new > delivery either. > Up 30 cents a gallon here overnight. :( From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 10:51:11 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 12:50:25 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: "Pete Stephenson" wrote in message news:pete+usenet-C4712F.07553102092005@news.cesmail.net... > In article , > "Spamvireslayer" wrote: > > > It would appear that way, and I think Bush's pride is a little > > bruised and he's embarrassed that the entire world is watching us > > fail miserably at taking care of our own disasters. > > Fail miserably? How are things failing miserably? you've become a regular GOP apologist haven't you?! I daresay you'd think they were failing miserably if it were you standing there on an overpass ducking gunshots, no water, no food, no idea where your family is at, hungry, filthy, exposed to corpses and potentially serious disease. > Things are not failing miserably; this is pretty much par for the course > in disaster recovery. Bush himself apparently disagrees with you, as he admitted as much this morning. From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 10:53:53 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 12:55:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Me & Mine Online specific damage map References: <010920052057267583%Curtis@abcd.fake> Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:df9u9g$st1$1@news.spamcop.net... > http://ngs.woc.noaa.gov/storms/katrina/24331220.jpg > > sorry I can't be more specific as I am having a hard time recognizing ANY > land marks. Damn, sorry to hear that FP. At least nobody was killed. From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 10:55:16 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 12:55:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If anyone doubts we're being gouged on gas References: Message-ID: "David Dean" wrote in message news:ozchzhq02-017983.12431102092005@frylock.local... > In article , > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote: > > > Dang. I think i'd have rented a car LOL > > Why do you think I haven't biked to work since? ;) Good call! From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 10:55:45 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 12:55:21 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tragedy brings out the best in people References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:df9vmv$u3l$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:df9v9a$tlj$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > gawd.. does nobody know the expression 'take to the hills' around here?! > > Annoying how SOME people can be so pedantic and literal, isn't? *I* knew > what you meant.... And I would have taken off for the hills of South Dakota > or something.... hehehehehehe... fleecy jammies anyone? ;o) From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 10:56:37 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 12:55:25 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas over $3.00 today... References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns96C56DE497351innewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... > "Heidi" wrote in > news:df9vgn$trr$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > Just went through town on the way home at lunch - gas has gone up 20 > > cents overnight, I'm betting that none of these places has had a new > > delivery either. > > > > Up 30 cents a gallon here overnight. :( What possible justification is there for the prices in your area to be so hard hit? Does your gas come directly from the gulf area? From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 13:55:57 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 13:00:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Venezuela even offered aid..... References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > It mystifies me why people weren't evacuated in buses BEFORE the > hurricane hit. It'd be a hell of a lot easier to do it that way > around and save a lot of lives. Because they were hoping beyond hope that the eye would miss NO? And it did. If the levees hadn't failed on Lake-unspellable there wouldn't have been a disaster. Besides, you can't force people to leave, legally, before disaster strikes. From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Fri Sep 2 17:57:51 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Fri Sep 2 13:00:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas over $3.00 today... References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in news:dfa04b$ucf$1 @news.spamcop.net: > What possible justification is there for the prices in your area to be so > hard hit? Does your gas come directly from the gulf area? No oil comes from there at all I'm pretty sure. There are MANY , MANY wells up here, along with refineries. In fact, a lot of our oil gets shipped down to you guys, and we pay HIGHER prices for the same stuff!!! Damm money grubbers! From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 14:01:54 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 13:05:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Is it just me, or is this man trying to cover something with his SO?? References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:df9nbv$oj6$1@news.spamcop.net... > > From the sounds of it I wouldn't be surprised if she just walks up > > to guys and squeezes their crotch...... > > ROFL... would that work?! I'd sure as hell know what she had in mind! Besides, even normal folks in normal relationships sneak up on their SOs and give them a quick squeeze or touch somewhere as a hint (hey, I'm horny, want a quickie?). Keeps things fun and spontaneous IMO. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 14:04:10 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 13:05:17 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:df9i17$l3s$1@news.spamcop.net... > > There's a fine balance point somewhere -- you don't want all of the > > house thermal mass to get too cold, it would take more energy to > > heat it all back up than you'd save. Plus, I don't want to kill of > > of my house plants! > > Hmm. True true... but I think 55 would be ok. Do a bit of > experimenting if the price really does go thru the roof. Still don't know if it would be more energy efficient or not, but I do know it would take a helluva long time to heat the house up 15 degrees! From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 14:05:28 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 13:10:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If anyone doubts we're being gouged on gas References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > > dual carriageways in the UK allow bicycles, speed limit on those > > > is 70 > > > > That's insane. On the part of the biker too. > > Ayup. Wouldn't catch me doing it, that's for sure! There is a sort of > side lane but still, drivers are careless and accidents happen. All it takes is one idiot talking on hir cell phone or fiddling with the radio to swerve briefly onto the shoulder of the road........... From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 14:07:48 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 13:10:19 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: sounds bloody awful References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > Doesn't matter if it's man made or not. They can divert the water > away and drain it if they put enough money and effort into it. > Depends on how badly they want to save New Orleans and stop the same > thing happening again. What's even scarier is the way the Mississippi > lurks right above the city too! I think they'd be better off inspecting and reinforcing the levees, like maybe 10 feet higher too. Or just bulldoze the city and leave it return to nature. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 14:09:58 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 13:10:25 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: sounds bloody awful References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: Maybe they ought to build a big ass pipeling A Pipeling? Isn't that some sort of bird? Or maybe it's a 1/3 scale size old style single engine plane? From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 14:10:10 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Fri Sep 2 13:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: "Pete Stephenson" | > It would appear that way, and I think Bush's pride is a little | > bruised and he's embarrassed that the entire world is watching us | > fail miserably at taking care of our own disasters. | | Fail miserably? How are things failing miserably? | | With the south-east asia tsunami, it took several weeks for a lot of the | relief operations to really get going. Right now, the operations are | happening in a moderately uncoordinated way due to conditions on-site. | Once the flooding is brought under control and the pumps brought online | can relief efforts begin in earnest. | | How is the largest domestic relief effort in United States history (and | /the/ largest ever, according to the Red Cross) "failing miserably"? | | Please look at the big picture here -- right now, there's only so much | rescuers, the military, and the Red Cross can do. Efforts are underway | to deliver supplies, but they're limited by the amount of flooding. | People are working on patching the breaches in the levees and getting | the pumps going again. Once that's done, I think you'll see things | progressing at a very rapid pace -- there's plenty of personnel and | supplies staged and ready to move in. | Also, take into account that some of the people in New Orleans are | /shooting at their rescuers/. One of the main jobs of Search & Rescue is | "don't become another victim", so I can see why they're not eager to go | in there right now while being shot at. | | Things are not failing miserably; this is pretty much par for the course | in disaster recovery. Nobody can just magically snap their fingers and | make everything better again; things need to be done in a certain order | to maximize the rescue efforts. I've been on the ground in more of these things than I can count. I've a few 'boots' on the ground who are very streetwise. This is by any definition a cluster fu*k of immense proportions. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 14:10:50 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 13:15:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas over $3.00 today... References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > Did you gas up today? Better get yourself a container of gas to keep > in your garage, just in case there's none to be had for a couple of > days. Not yet, doing it tonite. Only gas container I have is for the lawn mower, only holds 2 gallons...... From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 14:12:16 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 13:15:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tragedy brings out the best in people References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:df9j3m$ls4$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > > > Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > > > > > Let's hope she saw sense and took to the hills instead! > > > > The hills of New Orleans? LOL. > > gawd.. does nobody know the expression 'take to the hills' around > here?! Nope. "Cut'em off at the pass", yup ;-) From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 14:14:06 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 13:15:18 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tragedy brings out the best in people References: Message-ID: Heidi wrote: > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:df9v9a$tlj$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > gawd.. does nobody know the expression 'take to the hills' around > > here?! > > Annoying how SOME people can be so pedantic and literal, isn't? Think how boring .social would be if pedants weren't around ;-) From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Fri Sep 2 18:16:03 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Fri Sep 2 13:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tragedy brings out the best in people References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:dfa18v$vam$1@news.spamcop.net: > Think how boring .social would be if pedants weren't around ;-) On silver or gold necklaces? (G,D&R> From borgholio at storymind.com Fri Sep 2 11:34:24 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Fri Sep 2 13:35:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Want to get the government off it's ass? Message-ID: I heard a radio interview with the New Orleans Mayor, and he's freaking pissed. For the first time in my life, I'm actually going to phone government officials and "speak my mind". I just left a comment with the White House comments department telling Bush to get his thumb out of his ass and do more for New Orleans...flying over in a plane and holding a press conference isn't going to cut it. I'm leaving messages with both our California Senators and maybe a choice few Reps too. Go to www.whitehouse.gov and www.congress.gov for all the contact addresses you need. From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 14:30:47 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Fri Sep 2 13:35:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" | > He probably doesn't want us to appear "weak" in the eyes of our | > enemies.....swallow your fscking pride and accept the help, dammit! At least | > take any money offered. | | The fact that his hurricane was tracked for a week or more, there was no mandatory | evacuation busing of people without means to leave, there was no relief on alert | poised to get in there in a hurry, and the hospital ship is only just now leaving the | east coast, says something about the horrendous failure to prepare. No wonder it's | taking so long, everyone's acting like they were surprised. I saw Harry Connick on | TV this morning, he says the roads are wide open NO, there is no reason why | truckloads of food and water and other assistance shouldn't be appearing, but they're | not. He was utterly horrified by what he saw at the refugee centers, babies with | their eyes bulging from dehydration, people without food, without medical treatment | or medicine and no hope of getting any, there shouldn't be any need for this to be | going on. | It takes a tow boat less than 36 hours to run from Baton Rouge to New Orleans. At this time of year there are many boats that can carry the equilivant of 45 TRAINS (engines/box cars and cargo) on that trip. There is adequate unloading facilities all over the river front (their called ferry landings) as well as the dock area for the tourist boats (aka Delta Queen, river queen etc) FWIW the up bound trip takes < three days. All of this is within walking distance of the Superdome and a few hundred yards from the convention center. As to the water covering the roads into town. They can get busses into town and they ride lower than an 18 wheeler. One of the largest water purification stations in the country is located in the east side of the river just down stream from Jefferson parish. I know from personal contact that the area is not flooded, has little damage and the system is intact (my grandfather helped build that facility). Only take a few gen sets to operate that is assuming the onsite co-generation equipment is no longer operational. Pull in a few milk truck tankers and the superdome would have more water than they could drink. (10K gal per truck) in short order. Can't be done? it was done in '69 to supply the gulf coast with water after Betsey. We flew in how many flight of MREs into Afghanistan? do the same with down town NOLA. So what if they land in the water. Most would land undamaged. From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 14:33:48 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Fri Sep 2 13:35:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Biodiesel recipe? References: Message-ID: "Pete Stephenson" wrote in message news:pete+usenet-FC88B1.20204301092005@news.cesmail.net... | In article , | Charles <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote: | | > Those are the old prices, for one. Surely with the present troubles the | > price will rise. For another, FP is talking about a price under a buck. | > And, hey, the stuff works for fuel oil as well. | | Do you think the price would rise? Their supply of waste vegetable oil | from food establishments and whatnot is still steady. They don't use any | petroleum in it, so I can't imagine why their costs would rise at all. | | But yeah, I'd be interested in FP's information as well. That's my cost in small batches (< 40 gal/batch). don't know what the cost would be in a commercial scale but there is currently no shortage of used oil. I should note that restaurants are not the only source. As example stale dated cooking oil or even bulk oil from other processes. From borgholio at storymind.com Fri Sep 2 11:40:52 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Fri Sep 2 13:45:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Want to get the government off it's ass? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > I heard a radio interview with the New Orleans Mayor, and he's freaking > pissed. For the first time in my life, I'm actually going to phone > government officials and "speak my mind". I just left a comment with > the White House comments department telling Bush to get his thumb out of > his ass and do more for New Orleans...flying over in a plane and holding > a press conference isn't going to cut it. I'm leaving messages with > both our California Senators and maybe a choice few Reps too. Go to > www.whitehouse.gov and www.congress.gov for all the contact addresses > you need. Addendum - One senator has three phone numbers...one in DC, one in San Francisco and one here in Los Angeles...they're all busy. :) A spokesman for the other senator says that I'm far from the first to complain about the lack of effort in New Orleans, and that people from all over California are pissed at Bush. I'll keep trying the other senator until I get through. From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 14:40:57 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Fri Sep 2 13:50:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Me & Mine Online specific damage map References: <010920052057267583%Curtis@abcd.fake> Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" | > http://ngs.woc.noaa.gov/storms/katrina/24331220.jpg | > | > sorry I can't be more specific as I am having a hard time recognizing ANY | > land marks. | | Damn, sorry to hear that FP. At least nobody was killed. So far that's the only house lost in the family with one other having ~ 6 inches of standing water. Fortunately we've a *large* extended family that makes use of the property year long and has for generations so it won't be hard to us to rebuild. Only cost for labor will be food/beer and materials. From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 14:43:08 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Fri Sep 2 13:50:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Does anyone know if Cat is OK? References: Message-ID: "Redstone" | > If you are planning to be anywhere in or near NOLA: Unless you can be | > POSITIVE you will have a safe environment I'd recommend against the | > trip. You will be WITHOUT communications, any way to provide for your | > own needs and unable to leave without assistance. Not to mention that | > the area has been classed bio-hazardous. | | Highly aware of that. We were given a list of things we will need while | there. There was a lot of co-workers wanting to volunteer so not everyone | will be able to go. Going to find out by tomorrow to see what is what. Me and mine have a lot more reason to go and we're staying away. Again I strongly recommend you pass on this trip From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 14:46:31 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Fri Sep 2 13:50:18 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tragedy brings out the best in people References: Message-ID: "Heidi" | > Barge is totally different that a barge. FWIW the navy often set to sea | in storms as the vessels are safer when at sea. | | HELLO, the Navy has SHIPS! Big, heavy steel ships! | > | > I'd try to be as far inland as I could get (say Kansas) but close to the | > coast I'd take a boat over a house. | | Ya think? | http://tinyurl.com/akzxa | http://tinyurl.com/7vaqg I'm not talking about your Sunday day sailor craft. A stout commercial vessel would do quite well. (I've been in 40-50 seas in a round bottom tug boat a few time and more than once in a commercial shrimp boat.) From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 14:48:34 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Fri Sep 2 13:50:23 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tragedy brings out the best in people References: Message-ID: "JohnL" < | | > Think how boring .social would be if pedants weren't around ;-) | | On silver or gold necklaces? | (G,D&R> Naw madi gras beads From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 14:49:10 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 13:55:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Venezuela even offered aid..... References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dfa06u$ueu$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Because they were hoping beyond hope that the eye would miss NO? And it did. > If the levees hadn't failed on Lake-unspellable there wouldn't have been a > disaster. Besides, you can't force people to leave, legally, before disaster > strikes. That's absurd though, even if the eye missed NO, which it did, look at the devastation! That storm covered half the gulf coast, even a glancing blow by a storm of that size could have been a disaster. Who in their right mind would think they could survive an almost direct hit by a Cat 5 storm? and the Army Corps of Engineers has been saying for years that the levees were in bad shape, they begged for money to fix them and the Bush administration kept cutting it out of the budget as "pork". THIS will come back to bite him in the ass in a big way. http://www.oregonlive.com/editorials/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/editorial/112565913781391.xml&coll=7 In a 2002 series titled "In Harm's Way," honored as a finalist for a Pulitzer Prize, The Times-Picayune of New Orleans warned that sinking land and chronic erosion had left south Louisiana highly vulnerable to hurricanes. It warned that it would be difficult to evacuate the million or more people who live in the area, putting thousands of people at risk. "Without extraordinary measures," the paper concluded, "key ports, oil and gas production, one of the nation's most important fisheries, the unique bayou culture, the historic French Quarter and more are at risk of being swept away in a catastrophic hurricane. . . ." That exact catastrophe is now here. The Bush administration and Congress ignored pleas from Louisiana's elected officials for more help to protect their vulnerable coast. Instead, the White House was intent on trimming pork and deterring cost overruns at the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 14:50:06 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 13:55:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas over $3.00 today... References: Message-ID: "Turan Fettahoglu" wrote in message news:df9vct$tqi$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Drove past Shell on the way to gym this morning and gas was like in the > > $3.45 range. > > > Any bets on when it hits $5 per gal.? > You already lost your bet. Here in Germany premium unleaded is 1.46 > Euro/litre, that should be some 6.89 $ per US gallon. Turan, how much of your price is taxes? From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 14:51:47 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 13:55:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas over $3.00 today... References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:df9vb9$tq5$1@news.spamcop.net... > The news did a story on gouging this morning, one woman, I don't know > where, said she > > was charged $8.00 for 1 gallon of gas..... > > holy shit.. now THAT is gouging! No kidding....now get this. Prices went up at the Gibbs station .20 overnight. They are now in line with the Mobil station up the road, which is usually 7-10 cents higher. They're all the same now? Doesn't that just smack of some kind of orchestrated price fixing? From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 14:53:59 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 14:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dfa0mb$ure$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Still don't know if it would be more energy efficient or not, but I do know > it would take a helluva long time to heat the house up 15 degrees! It would also leave you that much closer to disaster if there should be a power outage and your pipes froze...... From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 14:56:29 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 14:00:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Venezuela even offered aid..... References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > > and the Army Corps of Engineers has been saying for years that the > levees were in bad shape, they begged for money to fix them and the > Bush administration kept cutting it out of the budget as "pork". > THIS will come back to bite him in the ass in a big way. Heard that. But somehow they found $8-10 billion to restore the Everglades back to wetlands. Smart choice, huh? From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 14:57:47 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 14:00:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:df9ve4$tr0$1@news.spamcop.net... > > In the area where the rest of you park your cars, is there more or less > coming and going than out front where he parks his? Wherever there's the > most coming and going is where he's most likely to get dinged. There are more cars on the employee side of the lot, obviously, but with the building filling up those front spaces are filled most of the time too, with people coming and going for Dr's appts. etc. That's hardly the point, though, if the lease says "PARK OVER THERE", then that's where you park. He has a (sorry) beat up little Mazda that he also drives and he still parks it there, right next to the access driveway for trucks that go to the back of the building. Too bad so sad if a truck dings him there...aw... From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 15:00:33 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 14:05:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:dfa0mb$ure$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > Still don't know if it would be more energy efficient or not, but I > > do know it would take a helluva long time to heat the house up 15 > > degrees! > > It would also leave you that much closer to disaster if there should > be a power outage and your pipes froze...... Hmmm...the thermostat has a battery backup and I have a gas furnace........but the blower wouldn't work.....still, it'd have to be seriously cold outside and a long power outage for the temp inside to drop below freezing. The house is very well insulated. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 19:00:47 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Bush Lied) Date: Fri Sep 2 14:05:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Want to get the government off it's ass? References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > I heard a radio interview with the New Orleans Mayor, and he's freaking > pissed. For the first time in my life, I'm actually going to phone > government officials and "speak my mind". I just left a comment with > the White House comments department telling Bush to get his thumb out of > his ass and do more for New Orleans...flying over in a plane and holding > a press conference isn't going to cut it. I'm leaving messages with > both our California Senators and maybe a choice few Reps too. Go to > www.whitehouse.gov and www.congress.gov for all the contact addresses > you need. LOL! Good for you, though I seriously doubt that they'll listen since you probably aren't in the top 2% of wealthy Americans, and probably didn't make a hefty contribution to the BushCo machine. But thanks to the extensive media coverage, at least the world is now getting an unvarnished look at Shrubya's total incompetence, and one that his PR machine can't do anything to mitigate. You can't buy that kind of honest publicity. :-) And the obvious lesson to be learned from all of this is that we need to be prepared to be on our own in a natural disaster, for several days if necessary. Under BushCo both FEMA and the National Guard have just about been rendered incapable of providing *any* kind of meaningful assistance. -- Bush Lied, Thousands Died. Do you know the real George W. Bush? http://www.bushwatch.com/bushlies.htm From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 14:58:47 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 14:05:17 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: "David Dean" wrote in message news:ozchzhq02-1A15A1.12212402092005@frylock.local... > In article , > "Spamvireslayer" wrote: > > > if they're being attacked by violent gangs of > > looters, > > Telling someone to shoot people when you're attacked, is far > different from telling people to shoot looters. It's the looters who are armed and shooting. From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Fri Sep 2 20:01:48 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Fri Sep 2 14:05:22 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas over $3.00 today... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > "Dwayne Conyers" > > | Drove past Shell on the way to gym this morning and gas was like in the > | $3.45 range. > | > | Any bets on when it hits $5 per? > > Reports from Western NC and easer TN no fuel for private vehicles. > > In eastern NC fire trucks and other government diesel fueled vehicles are > filling up at the same pumps that the John Q Public uses trying to conserve > their stored fuel "The runup in prices prompted President Bush to warn against gouging and to encourage Americans to conserve. " Did you ever think you would see the day that Bush is telling people to conserve gas? Wow, I'm speechless. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 14:59:54 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 14:05:27 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:df9vha$ts7$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Hell, from what I know they don't even have a FEMA command and control > center up and running yet! How are you supposed to communicate with your > cops with no phones, no radios, no power, no police stations or patrol cars? > > As far as a disaster plan, surely they must have had one, but without any > resources to execute it....... I saw the FEMA guy on TV this morning, he was being called on the carpet for his lack of preparedness and he had nothing but excuses. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 15:01:28 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 14:05:31 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:df9vkn$u2g$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Yeah, and while he sits there worrying about pride, people are suffering > horribly. I mean just being there in that heat with no water would be bad > enough. Never mind all the shooting, looting, filth, bodies, lack of > shelter, lack of food. This is a rhetorical statement, mind, but I wonder just how fucking STUPID a national leader has to be to refuse anyone's offer of help in a disaster the size of which we've never seen. How arrogant and stupid, not to mention ungracious. From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 14:59:42 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Fri Sep 2 14:05:36 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Want to get the government off it's ass? References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:dfa2qk$t4e$4@news.spamcop.net... | Borgholio wrote: | > I heard a radio interview with the New Orleans Mayor, and he's freaking | > pissed. For the first time in my life, I'm actually going to phone | > government officials and "speak my mind". I just left a comment with | > the White House comments department telling Bush to get his thumb out of | > his ass and do more for New Orleans...flying over in a plane and holding | > a press conference isn't going to cut it. I'm leaving messages with | > both our California Senators and maybe a choice few Reps too. Go to | > www.whitehouse.gov and www.congress.gov for all the contact addresses | > you need. | | Addendum - One senator has three phone numbers...one in DC, one in San | Francisco and one here in Los Angeles...they're all busy. :) A spokesman | for the other senator says that I'm far from the first to complain about the | lack of effort in New Orleans, and that people from all over California are | pissed at Bush. I'll keep trying the other senator until I get through. Email/snale male? From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 15:02:40 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 14:05:40 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:df9vq5$u42$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Bush himself apparently disagrees with you, as he admitted as much this > morning. Sure he did, now that people are pointing the finger at HIM, now he looks bad and he's barging around mad and wants to know what the problem is. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 15:04:56 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 14:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Me & Mine Online specific damage map References: <010920052057267583%Curtis@abcd.fake> Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:df9u9g$st1$1@news.spamcop.net... > Our place *was* in the lower right hand of the map about 2/3 of the way > between the beach and the RR tracks. > > http://ngs.woc.noaa.gov/storms/katrina/24331220.jpg > > sorry I can't be more specific as I am having a hard time recognizing ANY > land marks. You mean that big brown patch? :( From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Fri Sep 2 20:06:43 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Fri Sep 2 14:10:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "Heidi" wrote in message > news:df8hlv$36t$1@news.spamcop.net... > >>>The water is generally too deep for soldiers to patrol in, even with >>>vehicles. > > Which bright spark took high water vehicles to a desert?! If you don't take stuff with you, they take it away from you. You never worked in a big company? If something is in the budget, you better spend it somehow otherwise it will disappear from next year's budget. From borgholio at storymind.com Fri Sep 2 12:07:41 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Fri Sep 2 14:10:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Want to get the government off it's ass? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > "Borgholio" wrote in message > news:dfa2qk$t4e$4@news.spamcop.net... > | Borgholio wrote: > | > I heard a radio interview with the New Orleans Mayor, and he's freaking > | > pissed. For the first time in my life, I'm actually going to phone > | > government officials and "speak my mind". I just left a comment with > | > the White House comments department telling Bush to get his thumb out of > | > his ass and do more for New Orleans...flying over in a plane and holding > | > a press conference isn't going to cut it. I'm leaving messages with > | > both our California Senators and maybe a choice few Reps too. Go to > | > www.whitehouse.gov and www.congress.gov for all the contact addresses > | > you need. > | > | Addendum - One senator has three phone numbers...one in DC, one in San > | Francisco and one here in Los Angeles...they're all busy. :) A spokesman > | for the other senator says that I'm far from the first to complain about > the > | lack of effort in New Orleans, and that people from all over California > are > | pissed at Bush. I'll keep trying the other senator until I get through. > > Email/snale male? > > Telephone. Can't get the emotion across any other way. But they DO have email / snail mail addresses too, if you really want them. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 15:06:35 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 14:10:19 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Venezuela even offered aid..... References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:df9tuo$sm6$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message > news:df9q86$qhf$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Later, Chavez told Venezuelan television that Bush was a ''cowboy" and the > ''king of vacations" who had failed to evacuate the population of New Orleans before > the hurricane hit. > > Well he certainly hit THAT nail on the head! NO SHIT.. Why do you think Bush is mad? He's being taunted by someone outside the country for his inability to solve the problem, that must be a bit embarrassing... From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 15:07:12 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 14:10:22 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Venezuela even offered aid..... References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dfa3oe$16r$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Heard that. But somehow they found $8-10 billion to restore the Everglades > back to wetlands. Smart choice, huh? It is if your name is Jeb.... From pete+usenet at heypete.com Fri Sep 2 12:09:03 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Fri Sep 2 14:10:26 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: In article , "Sylvesterthekat" wrote: > you've become a regular GOP apologist haven't you?! I daresay you'd think > they were failing miserably if it were you standing there on an overpass > ducking gunshots, no water, no food, no idea where your family is at, > hungry, filthy, exposed to corpses and potentially serious disease. This has absolutely nothing to do with politics. Why does everyone bring this back to "Bush-this" or "Republicans-that"? It has nothing whatsoever to do with that, and I would appreciate you not continually trying to blame this disaster and the recovery operations (which, as I've said, are chaotic as command and control is established, yet still progressing) on Bush, Congress, or any other political figure with no influence over this situation at all. It does, however, have to do with rescuing people, saving lives, and taking care of those displaced by this disaster. The process for that is underway, regardless of politics, and would be so regardless of who is president. -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From pete+usenet at heypete.com Fri Sep 2 12:10:18 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Fri Sep 2 14:10:31 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: In article , "Sylvesterthekat" wrote: > Her doing basically nothing but shop and party doesn't send out a good > image. She should be doing something to help, even if that's not her job. I don't care about image, I care about results. If Condi can shop and party while things are getting done, then I don't give a flying fark. -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 15:10:30 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 14:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dfa401$19n$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Hmmm...the thermostat has a battery backup and I have a gas > furnace........but the blower wouldn't work.....still, it'd have to be > seriously cold outside and a long power outage for the temp inside to drop > below freezing. The house is very well insulated. I don't know where your pipes are, but many of mine are near the outside wall. We have not, thank heaven, had a power outage in the winter that lasted more than four hours or so, and that's good, because there's no other source of heat in my house. They were thinking of putting in a gas stove but the bottle was 'unsightly'...... If there's a storm, I keep the house around 70, just in case we lose power. From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Fri Sep 2 20:17:30 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Fri Sep 2 14:20:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "Redstone" wrote in message > news:Xns96C5342E82DDEtinlc@216.154.195.61... > >>I wonder if the military have thought about positioning themselves in the >>French Quarter. It seems to be have come through the storm fairly >>unscathed. > > It was until the levees broke and flooded the place. I heard on tv that cops are > turning in their badges because they're outnumbered by the looters. I keep thinking, is this really just how close we all are to the Lord of the Flies? From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 15:19:36 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 14:25:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas over $3.00 today... References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" <35zyuhr02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:dfa42c$17d$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Did you ever think you would see the day that Bush is telling people to > conserve gas? Wow, I'm speechless. He's only saying that so when the "shortage" arrives and the "rationing" happens no one can say he wasn't way ahead of the game by warning us to control ourselves. Darn, that little Pontiac Vibe is looking really good right now, and me, only a year into my lease..... From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 15:21:35 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 14:25:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: "David Dean" wrote in message news:ozchzhq02-1C5285.14185102092005@frylock.local... > In article , > "Spamvireslayer" wrote: > > > It's the looters who are armed and shooting. > What motivation do they have to shoot? They're being told to stop looting, and they don't want to, so they shoot. One cop got shot in the head by looters. Why did the Governor order > shoot to kill on looters, instead of shoot to kill armed resistance? See above. It's gangs of looters who are shooting cops, and pretty much anyone else who has something they want. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 15:22:10 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 14:25:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" <35zyuhr02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:dfa4vq$17d$3@news.spamcop.net... >> I keep thinking, is this really just how close we all are to the Lord of > the Flies? Apparently, didn't take long, did it? From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Fri Sep 2 20:24:47 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Fri Sep 2 14:25:22 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: indigo wrote: > Spamvireslayer wrote: > >>"Redstone" wrote in message >>news:Xns96C5342E82DDEtinlc@216.154.195.61... >> >>>I wonder if the military have thought about positioning themselves >>>in the French Quarter. It seems to be have come through the storm >>>fairly unscathed. >> >>It was until the levees broke and flooded the place. I heard on tv >>that cops are turning in their badges because they're outnumbered by >>the looters. > > I also read that lots of cops are gathering their families and skipping town > because there is no command structure telling them what to do (and getting > shot at while trying to help rescue folks sure don't help!) You have to imagine too that if they lost everything and they just want to get out, they might as well do it right away. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 15:24:51 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 14:30:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Wow, good on 'em. Message-ID: http://tinyurl.com/bs2xh PARIS (Reuters) - Europe will dip into its emergency stocks of gasoline to help the United States through an energy crisis triggered by Hurricane Katrina smashing into Gulf Coast refiners, EU governments said on Friday. France, Germany, Spain and Italy declared they were ready to send fuel across the Atlantic in an operation coordinated by the West's energy watchdog, the International Energy Agency (IEA). The Paris-based IEA announced its members would release two million barrels per day (bpd) of oil over an initial period of 30 days. About half that will be gasoline from European refiners that will roughly match output lost from the Gulf Coast's battered refineries. The remainder will be crude from U.S. reserves. EU nations have watched in horror as the world's richest country struggles with the aftermath of Katrina. Thousands are feared dead and troops in the flooded city of New Orleans have been told to shoot-to-kill to crack down on looting. Gasoline prices have soared by nearly a fifth over the past week and President George W. Bush has urged Americans to go easy on fuel. Unlike the IEA, the United States has only emergency reserves of crude and a small stockpile of heating oil. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 15:27:45 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 14:30:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Great quote Message-ID: http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-5251105,00.html City officials have accused the government - namely the Federal Emergency Management Agency - of being slow to recognize the magnitude of the tragedy and slow to send help. ``Get off your asses and let's do something,'' Mayor Ray Nagin told WWL-AM Thursday night in a rambling interview in which he cursed, yelled and ultimately burst into tears. At one point he said: ``Excuse my French - everybody in America - but I am pissed.'' From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Fri Sep 2 20:32:53 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Fri Sep 2 14:35:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: hey meanie In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "Mr K. Mean" <35zyuhr02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message > news:df90ca$ba5$1@news.spamcop.net... > >>Hmm, it looks like it works with my phone number. I wonder how that >>would work with what I already have. I don't think I can drop BT for 12 >>months. I'll have to look into it more. >> >>Oh, I see, it won't be available for my exchange until Dec 2005. I >>guess that gives me a bit of time to think about it. I guess that gets >>me through half of my BT contract time then. > > Oh bummer, well that means you don't qualify for the free bit then. I guess > if BT don't up their service to something comparable by the time your > contract runs out, you'll have the option to change. Well, I'm at 2M down and 500k up. That's sort of their base plan now. It could be faster but overall it isn't so bad. What I had before was just on the very edge of usability but this I can live with for a while. I would be surprised too if BT didn't upgrade over the next year to make sure they keep people. From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 15:29:59 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Fri Sep 2 14:35:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: "Pete Stephenson" | | > you've become a regular GOP apologist haven't you?! I daresay you'd think | > they were failing miserably if it were you standing there on an overpass | > ducking gunshots, no water, no food, no idea where your family is at, | > hungry, filthy, exposed to corpses and potentially serious disease. | | This has absolutely nothing to do with politics. Why does everyone bring | this back to "Bush-this" or "Republicans-that"? It has nothing | whatsoever to do with that, and I would appreciate you not continually | trying to blame this disaster and the recovery operations (which, as | I've said, are chaotic as command and control is established, yet still | progressing) on Bush, Congress, or any other political figure with no | influence over this situation at all. | | It does, however, have to do with rescuing people, saving lives, and | taking care of those displaced by this disaster. The process for that is | underway, regardless of politics, and would be so regardless of who is | president. | Ok when is President Regardless going to get the program in gear? From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 15:32:19 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Fri Sep 2 14:35:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Me & Mine Online specific damage map References: <010920052057267583%Curtis@abcd.fake> Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" | > Our place *was* in the lower right hand of the map about 2/3 of the way | > between the beach and the RR tracks. | > | > http://ngs.woc.noaa.gov/storms/katrina/24331220.jpg | > | > sorry I can't be more specific as I am having a hard time recognizing ANY | > land marks. | | You mean that big brown patch? :( I'm reasonable sure we've something invested in multiple big brown patches. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 15:36:55 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 14:40:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Right, so prices will be going down tomorrow? Message-ID: http://www.forbes.com/work/feeds/ap/2005/09/02/ap2204471.html The Bush administration said Friday it will release 30 million barrels of oil from the nation's strategic stockpile and that another 60 million will come from overseas to relieve an energy crunch caused by Hurricane Katrina. Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman called this an initial move, part of what he called an "aggressive" federal response to the hurricane disaster. The fuel being released by the Paris-based International Energy Agency will be in the form of both crude oil and gasoline and it will be released over the coming month. The 30 million barrels of U.S. reserves are crude oil, Bodman noted From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Fri Sep 2 20:39:25 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Fri Sep 2 14:40:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: sounds bloody awful In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > Doesn't matter if it's man made or not. They can divert the water away and > drain it if they put enough money and effort into it. Depends on how badly > they want to save New Orleans and stop the same thing happening again. > What's even scarier is the way the Mississippi lurks right above the city > too! You almost have to wonder if it is worth saving. I mean this was sort of a disaster waiting to happen. You build a city under sea level in an area filled with lots of storms and in a world where the average sea levels continue to rise. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 19:45:10 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Bush Lied) Date: Fri Sep 2 14:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] The Flyover Presidency of George W. Bush Message-ID: http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20050901/cm_huffpost/006566 -- Bush Lied, Thousands Died. Do you know the real George W. Bush? http://www.bushwatch.com/bushlies.htm From pete+usenet at heypete.com Fri Sep 2 12:46:18 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Fri Sep 2 14:50:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: In article , "Frog Prince" wrote: > Ok when is President Regardless going to get the program in gear? What, realistically, do you expect him to do? FEMA's there, the Guard is there, the Red Cross is there, martial law has been declared, efforts to plug the breaches in the levees are underway, etc. What more do you think can be done, other than allowing operations currently in progress to continue? The president can't can't the levees get repaired any faster, nor can he make the pumps move water any quicker. -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From pete+usenet at heypete.com Fri Sep 2 12:48:58 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Fri Sep 2 14:50:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Right, so prices will be going down tomorrow? References: Message-ID: In article , "Spamvireslayer" wrote: > http://www.forbes.com/work/feeds/ap/2005/09/02/ap2204471.html [snip] > Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman called this an initial move, part of > what he called an "aggressive" federal response to the hurricane > disaster. The fuel being released by the Paris-based International > Energy Agency will be in the form of both crude oil and gasoline and > it will be released over the coming month. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Doubt that we'll see any change in the immediate future, as it'll take a while to bring production online to refine crude oil into gasoline, and it'll take some time for the IEA fuel to come over here and be distributed. Even then, I suspect that most of it will go to the areas affected by the disaster and used by relief agencies. I don't know if it'd be available on the open market to lower prices. -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 19:51:19 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Bush Lied) Date: Fri Sep 2 14:55:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Right, so prices will be going down tomorrow? References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote: > http://www.forbes.com/work/feeds/ap/2005/09/02/ap2204471.html > > The Bush administration said Friday it will release 30 million barrels of > oil from the nation's strategic stockpile and that another 60 million will > come from overseas to relieve an energy crunch caused by Hurricane Katrina. > > Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman called this an initial move, part of what he > called an "aggressive" federal response to the hurricane disaster. The fuel > being released by the Paris-based International Energy Agency will be in the > form of both crude oil and gasoline and it will be released over the coming > month. > > The 30 million barrels of U.S. reserves are crude oil, Bodman noted It's mostly a PR gesture. All that extra crude really doesn't do much good, considering the amount of refining capacity that was lost in the storm. -- Bush Lied, Thousands Died. Do you know the real George W. Bush? http://www.bushwatch.com/bushlies.htm From post.please.this.email.is.not.valid at example.com Fri Sep 2 14:51:48 2005 From: post.please.this.email.is.not.valid at example.com (DougW) Date: Fri Sep 2 14:55:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Right, so prices will be going down tomorrow? References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer did pass the time by typing: > http://www.forbes.com/work/feeds/ap/2005/09/02/ap2204471.html > > The Bush administration said Friday it will release 30 million barrels of oil > from the nation's strategic stockpile and that another 60 million will come > from overseas to relieve an energy crunch caused by Hurricane Katrina. > > Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman called this an initial move, part of what he > called an "aggressive" federal response to the hurricane disaster. The fuel > being released by the Paris-based International Energy Agency will be in the > form of both crude oil and gasoline and it will be released over the coming > month. > > The 30 million barrels of U.S. reserves are crude oil, Bodman noted Won't make much of a scratch. The main reason fuel is so expensive is refinery and delivery bottlenecks. (aside from speculation in the market that is.) Those are the: Colonial Pipeline gasoline, heating oil and jet fuel from Houston to Carolina (or there abouts IIRC) Plantation Pipe Line gasoline from Mississippi and Louisiana to Northern Virginia Capline pipeline crude oil from the Gulf to the Midwest (Oklahoma) Here in Oklahoma most oil is local well and refinery less the supply that comes up the Capline, the increase in cost is due to market pressure. i.e. why sell it cheap here when you can make BIG$ hauling it to other states. -- DougW From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Fri Sep 2 20:54:31 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Fri Sep 2 14:55:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "David Dean" wrote in message > news:ozchzhq02-1A15A1.12212402092005@frylock.local... > >>In article , >> "Spamvireslayer" wrote: >> >>>if they're being attacked by violent gangs of >>>looters, >> >> Telling someone to shoot people when you're attacked, is far >>different from telling people to shoot looters. > > It's the looters who are armed and shooting. If you loot gun shops as one of your first targets, that helps. I saw the police are now doing the same thing to try and keep some of the remaining guns off the streets. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 15:53:17 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Good news Message-ID: http://www.pennlive.com/newsflash/pa/index.ssf?/base/news-5/112565904067230.xml&storylist=hurricane PASCAGOULA, Miss. (AP) - Chevron USA Inc. officials say damage to the Pascagoula refinery "were not catastrophic" and plant spokesman Steve Renfroe says the company is trying to get employees back on the job. Renfroe said Thursday that Chevron was still locating employees, many of whom were affected by the storm, and assessing damages. After Hurricane Georges in 1998, the refinery flooded and it took three months to resume operations. That lesson learned, Renfroe said the company built a five-mile long hurricane dike 20 feet above sea level, which helped "a great deal" during Katrina. He said generators got the refinery up and running Thursday. The Chevron refinery produces 325,000 barrels-a-day. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 15:57:25 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:00:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > > I saw the FEMA guy on TV this morning, he was being called on the > carpet for his lack of preparedness and he had nothing but excuses. It's pitiful. They should have moved tons of supplies, equipment, and personnel into staging areas prior to the hurricane hitting. They knew damn well it was going to hit SOMEWHERE hard! They need to be PROactive, not REactive, in situations like this. When are they going to learn? From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 13:00:44 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:00:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Wow, good on 'em. References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:dfa5f9$2i9$1@news.spamcop.net... > http://tinyurl.com/bs2xh > > PARIS (Reuters) - Europe will dip into its emergency stocks of gasoline to help the > United States through an energy crisis triggered by Hurricane Katrina smashing into > Gulf Coast refiners, EU governments said on Friday. Yay! Now let's see if that affects the price any! >Unlike the IEA, the United States has > only emergency reserves of crude and a small stockpile of heating oil. Considering this is the most fuel-hungry nation on earth, that seems somewhat foolish! From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 13:01:57 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:00:18 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Right, so prices will be going down tomorrow? References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:dfa65s$34v$1@news.spamcop.net... > http://www.forbes.com/work/feeds/ap/2005/09/02/ap2204471.html > > The Bush administration said Friday it will release 30 million barrels of oil from > the nation's strategic stockpile and that another 60 million will come from overseas > to relieve an energy crunch caused by Hurricane Katrina. > > Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman called this an initial move, part of what he called an > "aggressive" federal response to the hurricane disaster. The fuel being released by > the Paris-based International Energy Agency will be in the form of both crude oil and > gasoline and it will be released over the coming month. > > The 30 million barrels of U.S. reserves are crude oil, Bodman noted But where are they going to refine it? From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 13:09:20 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Venezuela even offered aid..... References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dfa06u$ueu$1@news.spamcop.net... > Because they were hoping beyond hope that the eye would miss NO? And it did. > If the levees hadn't failed on Lake-unspellable there wouldn't have been a > disaster. Besides, you can't force people to leave, legally, before disaster > strikes. Then they need to make a law that they can legally make people leave because this situation should never be repeated. At least they should have made buses available to people who wanted to leave but couldn't due to lack of resources. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 16:08:02 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:10:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:dfa401$19n$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > Hmmm...the thermostat has a battery backup and I have a gas > > furnace........but the blower wouldn't work.....still, it'd have to > > be seriously cold outside and a long power outage for the temp > > inside to drop below freezing. The house is very well insulated. > > I don't know where your pipes are, but many of mine are near the > outside wall. All located in the basement rafters, although they do run rather close (6"-8") to the foundation until they breakout to go to various faucets. We have not, thank heaven, had a power outage in the > winter that lasted more than four hours or so, and that's good, > because there's no other source of heat in my house. It would be a PITA for you, not having a basement, but if you were really worried about it simple pipe insulation would help greatly. Or you could go whole hog and get some line heaters too (like they make for gutters) and run them along the pipes and attach them to a marine battery for emergencies. From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 13:10:10 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:10:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Is it just me, or is this man trying to cover something with his SO?? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dfa0i2$unq$1@news.spamcop.net... > I'd sure as hell know what she had in mind! Besides, even normal folks in > normal relationships sneak up on their SOs and give them a quick squeeze or > touch somewhere as a hint (hey, I'm horny, want a quickie?). Keeps things > fun and spontaneous IMO. Yes but that's a world away from doing it to a complete stranger! From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 20:08:28 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Bush Lied) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:10:22 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Lock Bush in the SuperDome Message-ID: http://villagevoice.com/news/0536,ridgewayweb2,67481,2.html "Look back at Bush as the crisis gathered: He sits on his ranch. Over and over, his government issues dire warnings of the hurricane that is coming. The mayor of New Orleans starts the evacuation. Bush sits there, still on vacation. The storm strikes. Still he sits there. Then he acts. What does he do? He extends a helping hand to the oil industry, releasing some oil from the reserves and cutting pollution control. But the price of gas rises to even higher levels. The industry need more profits. Only in America can an industrial giant get away with saying there's a shortage when they're swimming in surplus. And Bush? For him, it's one more payoff to his campaign contributors. And the people of New Orleans? They sit on the baking rooftops and sidewalks. No water. No food. No help. Then Bush acts again. He is decisive. On Wednesday, he gets in his plane and flies? Flies real low, okay?? Over the devastation. And then he goes to Washington and, as the papers say, "mobilizes" the rescue effort. He says: "It is so devastating that it is hard to describe it. Nine-eleven was a manmade attack. This was a natural disaster. "New Orleans is more devastated than New York? and just physically devastated as is the coast of Mississippi, so we've got a lot of work to do and we'll get it done." How would he know? Bush was sitting in a bunker under a cornfield on 9-11 while New York organized its own rescue. He would not go to New York on that day. And now the best he can do is look out the window of his plane at the hurricane. His government says he'd like to visit?maybe even tomorrow?but the White House wants to make sure the president doesn't impede the rescue effort. So he sits in the White House while the people he governs, the people of the South, die in the heat because they can't get a glass of water in the wealthiest country of the world." -- Bush Lied, Thousands Died. Do you know the real George W. Bush? http://www.bushwatch.com/bushlies.htm From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 16:09:31 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:10:26 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas over $3.00 today... References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > > Darn, that little Pontiac Vibe is looking really good right now, and > me, only a year into my lease..... But you NEED a big gas guzzling SUV, don't you? Haven't you said that a gazillion times? From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 16:08:43 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Is it just me, or is this man trying to cover something with his SO?? References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:dfa7uq$4j6$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "indigo" wrote in message > news:dfa0i2$unq$1@news.spamcop.net... > > I'd sure as hell know what she had in mind! Besides, even normal folks in > > normal relationships sneak up on their SOs and give them a quick squeeze > or > > touch somewhere as a hint (hey, I'm horny, want a quickie?). Keeps things > > fun and spontaneous IMO. > > Yes but that's a world away from doing it to a complete stranger! Hookers are complete strangers and that doesn't seem to slow them down...... From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 16:09:34 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:15:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Venezuela even offered aid..... References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:dfa7t6$4ig$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Then they need to make a law that they can legally make people leave because > this situation should never be repeated. At least they should have made > buses available to people who wanted to leave but couldn't due to lack of > resources. Then the next problem is, where do you take them? Where are there enough facilities to house 25K people? From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 13:13:15 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:15:18 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: sounds bloody awful References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dfa0t5$uvj$1@news.spamcop.net... > I think they'd be better off inspecting and reinforcing the levees, like > maybe 10 feet higher too. Or just bulldoze the city and leave it return to > nature. I have a feeling that the bulldozing option won't happen. Better levees would help but then what if an even bigger storm, or two smaller ones in a row happened, or something happening up north as well that was feeding the lake and the river to already high levels. They're going to have to do better and spend more money than they might otherwise have thought was acceptable. From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 13:13:31 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:15:25 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: sounds bloody awful References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dfa116$v0i$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Sylvesterthekat wrote: > Maybe they ought to build a big ass pipeling > > A Pipeling? Isn't that some sort of bird? Or maybe it's a 1/3 scale size old > style single engine plane? oh shaddap LOL From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 13:14:26 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:15:31 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas over $3.00 today... References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dfa12r$v52$1@news.spamcop.net... > Not yet, doing it tonite. Only gas container I have is for the lawn mower, > only holds 2 gallons...... So buy one! How long does 2 gallons last you? 1 day? From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 16:12:23 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:15:37 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Wow, good on 'em. References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message > news:dfa5f9$2i9$1@news.spamcop.net... > > http://tinyurl.com/bs2xh > > > > PARIS (Reuters) - Europe will dip into its emergency stocks of > > gasoline to help the United States through an energy crisis > > triggered by Hurricane Katrina smashing into Gulf Coast refiners, > > EU governments said on Friday. > > Yay! Now let's see if that affects the price any! It will.....it'll go up more. Just think of the cost of each gallon produced in Europe, then the cost of transporting it by ship to the US. Do we even have facilities for importing and unloading gasoline? We import crude and refine it here....... From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 13:15:12 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:15:42 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tragedy brings out the best in people References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns96C5729F33ACAinnewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... > "indigo" wrote in news:dfa18v$vam$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > Think how boring .social would be if pedants weren't around ;-) > > On silver or gold necklaces? > (G,D&R> You know, I was about to make a similar comment then figured someone else was BOUND to have already done it. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 16:15:03 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: sounds bloody awful References: Message-ID: Mr K. Mean wrote: > > You almost have to wonder if it is worth saving. I mean this was sort > of a disaster waiting to happen. You build a city under sea level in > an area filled with lots of storms and in a world where the average > sea levels continue to rise. It wasn't below sea level when the city was built, it's been sinking over the years (hundreds). From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 13:17:37 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:20:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tragedy brings out the best in people References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:dfa3bf$qt$3@news.spamcop.net... > I'm not talking about your Sunday day sailor craft. A stout commercial > vessel would do quite well. (I've been in 40-50 seas in a round bottom tug > boat a few time and more than once in a commercial shrimp boat.) did you turn green at the gills? From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 16:16:57 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:20:19 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: sounds bloody awful References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:dfa0t5$uvj$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > I think they'd be better off inspecting and reinforcing the levees, > > like maybe 10 feet higher too. Or just bulldoze the city and leave > > it return to nature. > > I have a feeling that the bulldozing option won't happen. Dollars to donuts everything except historic areas *does* get bulldozed. No other way to clean up the debris that I can see. Better > levees would help but then what if an even bigger storm, or two > smaller ones in a row happened, or something happening up north as > well that was feeding the lake and the river to already high levels. > They're going to have to do better and spend more money than they > might otherwise have thought was acceptable. I again point out that the Dutch have managed to keep out the Atlantic for how many years now? From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 13:19:15 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:20:25 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Venezuela even offered aid..... References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:dfa3cc$rp$1@news.spamcop.net... > That exact catastrophe is now here. The Bush administration and Congress ignored > pleas from Louisiana's elected officials for more help to protect their vulnerable > coast. Instead, the White House was intent on trimming pork and deterring cost > overruns at the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers. shame on them shame on them shame on them! makes my blood boil From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 16:17:36 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:20:29 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tragedy brings out the best in people References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:dfa886$4t2$1@news.spamcop.net... > > You know, I was about to make a similar comment then figured someone else > was BOUND to have already done it. Bound, but unfortunately not gagged....LOL From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 16:18:44 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:20:35 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Good news References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > > He said generators got the refinery up and running Thursday. > > The Chevron refinery produces 325,000 barrels-a-day. yeahbutt.....how are they going to get it out of there? Pipelines and the port are wrecked. From post.please.this.email.is.not.valid at example.com Fri Sep 2 15:19:14 2005 From: post.please.this.email.is.not.valid at example.com (DougW) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:20:39 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: indigo did pass the time by typing: > Spamvireslayer wrote: >> "indigo" wrote in message >> news:dfa401$19n$1@news.spamcop.net... >>> >>> Hmmm...the thermostat has a battery backup and I have a gas >>> furnace........but the blower wouldn't work.....still, it'd have to >>> be seriously cold outside and a long power outage for the temp >>> inside to drop below freezing. The house is very well insulated. >> >> I don't know where your pipes are, but many of mine are near the >> outside wall. > > All located in the basement rafters, although they do run rather close > (6"-8") to the foundation until they breakout to go to various faucets. > > We have not, thank heaven, had a power outage in the >> winter that lasted more than four hours or so, and that's good, >> because there's no other source of heat in my house. > > It would be a PITA for you, not having a basement, but if you were really > worried about it simple pipe insulation would help greatly. Or you could go > whole hog and get some line heaters too (like they make for gutters) and run > them along the pipes and attach them to a marine battery for emergencies. Storm prep. leave the water dripping. If your a conservationist, let it drip into a glass then use it to brush your teeth or for that midnight drink. (just watch for bugs) :) -- DougW From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 13:21:41 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:20:45 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dfa0mb$ure$1@news.spamcop.net... > Still don't know if it would be more energy efficient or not, but I do know > it would take a helluva long time to heat the house up 15 degrees! We used to switch the heating OFF entirely in our house in England while we were out at work. It took maybe an hour to heat it up to a comfortable level so either we had much more efficient heating and insulation or you're worrying a bit more than necessary! From pete+usenet at heypete.com Fri Sep 2 13:20:43 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:25:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Good news References: Message-ID: In article , "indigo" wrote: > yeahbutt.....how are they going to get it out of there? Pipelines and the > port are wrecked. That, and how are they going to get the petroleum /into/ the refinery? The offshore platforms are shut down, and the distribution lines are probably wrecked there too. -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 16:19:58 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:25:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas over $3.00 today... References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dfa81c$4ju$1@news.spamcop.net... > > But you NEED a big gas guzzling SUV, don't you? Haven't you said > that a gazillion times? I don't have a gas guzzler, or at least not as bad as the one I had before, still, it doesn't get 30 mpg....... From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 13:23:43 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:25:18 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:dfa3sg$17g$1@news.spamcop.net... > There are more cars on the employee side of the lot, obviously, but with the building > filling up those front spaces are filled most of the time too, with people coming and > going for Dr's appts. etc. That's hardly the point, though, if the lease says "PARK > OVER THERE", then that's where you park. He has a (sorry) beat up little Mazda that > he also drives and he still parks it there, right next to the access driveway for > trucks that go to the back of the building. Too bad so sad if a truck dings him > there...aw... But I would have thought that the cars parked in the employee lot would sit there all day, once parked. Whereas the spaces out front will have people going in and out of them all the time and thus his chances of being dinged are far greater out front. But yeah, they ought to enforce the rules, what's the point of having them otherwise? From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 16:22:18 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:25:26 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Is it just me, or is this man trying to cover something with his SO?? References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:dfa0i2$unq$1@news.spamcop.net... > > I'd sure as hell know what she had in mind! Besides, even normal > > folks in normal relationships sneak up on their SOs and give them a > > quick squeeze or touch somewhere as a hint (hey, I'm horny, want a > > quickie?). Keeps things fun and spontaneous IMO. > > Yes but that's a world away from doing it to a complete stranger! But it does express the same desire ;-) And for what it's worth, I've experienced this exact thing more than once back when I used to go clubbing (after some drinks and conversation first, usually during a slow dance). Women can be aggressive too, you know! From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 13:24:53 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:25:33 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:dfa40k$19q$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "David Dean" wrote in message > news:ozchzhq02-1A15A1.12212402092005@frylock.local... > > In article , > > "Spamvireslayer" wrote: > > > > > if they're being attacked by violent gangs of > > > looters, > > > > Telling someone to shoot people when you're attacked, is far > > different from telling people to shoot looters. > > It's the looters who are armed and shooting. Not all of them, presumably. It would be a bit rough to shoot someone unarmed who was looting a bit of food. More justified to do it if they're armed and taking electronics items. From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 13:25:21 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:25:39 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:dfa42m$1fk$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "indigo" wrote in message news:df9vha$ts7$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > Hell, from what I know they don't even have a FEMA command and control > > center up and running yet! How are you supposed to communicate with your > > cops with no phones, no radios, no power, no police stations or patrol cars? > > > > As far as a disaster plan, surely they must have had one, but without any > > resources to execute it....... > > I saw the FEMA guy on TV this morning, he was being called on the carpet for his > lack of preparedness and he had nothing but excuses. and Bush patting him on the back and saying "good job!" From Paul.Sawyer.does.not.want.spam at unh.BAD.EXAMPLE.edu Fri Sep 2 20:24:10 2005 From: Paul.Sawyer.does.not.want.spam at unh.BAD.EXAMPLE.edu (Paul) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:25:45 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: President fiddles around as people die References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in news:df8jav$40p$1 @news.spamcop.net: > > "Heidi" wrote in message > news:df8h49$2v6$1@news.spamcop.net... >> They say he's going to touch down in NO tomorrow, he better bring some > damn >> food or the people will probably riot and kill the idiot. > > Oooh oooh! Let's hope they do! So you are hoping for a President Cheny? From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 16:24:36 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:25:50 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:dfa0mb$ure$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Still don't know if it would be more energy efficient or not, but I > > do know it would take a helluva long time to heat the house up 15 > > degrees! > > We used to switch the heating OFF entirely in our house in England > while we were out at work. It took maybe an hour to heat it up to a > comfortable level so either we had much more efficient heating and > insulation or you're worrying a bit more than necessary! How cold does it get in the winter in England? Do you get as cold as we do in the Northeast? Like around 0 F? From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 13:26:43 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:25:56 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Want to get the government off it's ass? References: Message-ID: "Bush Lied" wrote in message news:dfa405$19m$1@news.spamcop.net... Question. Why are you posting via an open proxy in Thailand? From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 16:25:32 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:30:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Venezuela even offered aid..... References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > Then they need to make a law that they can legally make people leave > because this situation should never be repeated. Likely unconstitutional. At least they should > have made buses available to people who wanted to leave but couldn't > due to lack of resources. Agreed. From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 13:27:40 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:30:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas over $3.00 today... References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" <35zyuhr02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:dfa42c$17d$1@news.spamcop.net... > Did you ever think you would see the day that Bush is telling people to > conserve gas? Wow, I'm speechless. No, but then he's only talking short term. He doesn't see the need to conserve on a day to day basis. From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Fri Sep 2 21:25:48 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:30:21 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Great quote In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: David Dean wrote: > In article , > "Spamvireslayer" wrote: > >> Mayor Ray Nagin > > I think I heard an excerpt of this interview on NPR this morning what > struck me as odd was that he had said something like "they need to get > their god damn shit into gear?" and they bleeped the word god, but not > shit. So, big massive FCC fine coming soon to a public radio station near you. From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 13:28:19 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:30:26 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:dfa45m$1i4$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:df9vq5$u42$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > Bush himself apparently disagrees with you, as he admitted as much this > > morning. > > Sure he did, now that people are pointing the finger at HIM, now he looks bad and > he's barging around mad and wants to know what the problem is. Yup. The problem, from his perspective, is his image is taking an even bigger battering. That's the main worry. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 16:25:30 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:30:31 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dfa7uj$4iu$1@news.spamcop.net... > > All located in the basement rafters, although they do run rather close > (6"-8") to the foundation until they breakout to go to various faucets. > > It would be a PITA for you, not having a basement, but if you were really > worried about it simple pipe insulation would help greatly. Or you could go > whole hog and get some line heaters too (like they make for gutters) and run > them along the pipes and attach them to a marine battery for emergencies. AH...you make an excellent point - thanks for the reminder! I do have a basement, accessible now with a bulkhead (last spring's mold nightmare). Last year I got a blanket for my hot water heater, but I'll be going for some pipe insulation this year (for upstairs and downstairs), especially now that they've vented each end of the basement. Actually last winter I noticed that my floors were a lot colder and draftier with that air moving through the basement, so I might just block off one of those vents during the really cold weather, on the side of the prevailing wind, save myself some oil. From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 13:29:10 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:30:38 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Venezuela even offered aid..... References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:dfa4d0$1pm$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:df9tuo$sm6$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message > > news:df9q86$qhf$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Later, Chavez told Venezuelan television that Bush was a ''cowboy" and the > > ''king of vacations" who had failed to evacuate the population of New Orleans > before > > the hurricane hit. > > > > Well he certainly hit THAT nail on the head! > > NO SHIT.. Why do you think Bush is mad? He's being taunted by someone outside the > country for his inability to solve the problem, that must be a bit embarrassing... ehehehehe. yeah indeed... it'd be great if Castro offered help and hurled a few choice insults to boot LOL > From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 13:29:29 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:30:42 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" <35zyuhr02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:dfa4bj$17d$2@news.spamcop.net... > Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > > "Heidi" wrote in message > > news:df8hlv$36t$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > >>>The water is generally too deep for soldiers to patrol in, even with > >>>vehicles. > > > > Which bright spark took high water vehicles to a desert?! > > If you don't take stuff with you, they take it away from you. You never > worked in a big company? If something is in the budget, you better > spend it somehow otherwise it will disappear from next year's budget. Ugh. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 16:27:39 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:30:48 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas over $3.00 today... References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:dfa12r$v52$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Not yet, doing it tonite. Only gas container I have is for the lawn > > mower, only holds 2 gallons...... > > So buy one! How long does 2 gallons last you? 1 day? I'd bet that Home Depot is likely sold out of all containers by now......and it prolly takes me about 1.2 gallons/day to get back and forth to work. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 16:27:17 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:30:54 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:dfa8o5$5ed$1@news.spamcop.net... > > But I would have thought that the cars parked in the employee lot would sit > there all day, once parked. Whereas the spaces out front will have people > going in and out of them all the time and thus his chances of being dinged > are far greater out front. But yeah, they ought to enforce the rules, what's > the point of having them otherwise? He's a prissy little yuppie, what can I say? I say 'CALL THE TOW TRUCK!' LOL From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 13:31:36 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:31:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: "Pete Stephenson" wrote in message news:pete+usenet-DF427C.11090302092005@news.cesmail.net... > This has absolutely nothing to do with politics. Why does everyone bring > this back to "Bush-this" or "Republicans-that"? It has nothing > whatsoever to do with that, and I would appreciate you not continually > trying to blame this disaster and the recovery operations (which, as > I've said, are chaotic as command and control is established, yet still > progressing) on Bush, Congress, or any other political figure with no > influence over this situation at all. Of course it has to do with politics! Who but the politicians make decisions about who gets what money, what resources, what emergency planning and so on? Get real! > It does, however, have to do with rescuing people, saving lives, and > taking care of those displaced by this disaster. The process for that is > underway, regardless of politics, and would be so regardless of who is > president. Seen precious little of that so far. And guess who's to blame? Who the hell else BUT the politicians? Is it the local police? Is it the reservists who are standing around not being directed properly? From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 16:29:54 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:31:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas over $3.00 today... References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > > I don't have a gas guzzler, or at least not as bad as the one I had > before, still, it doesn't get 30 mpg....... My Acura can ;-) Ok, 29 mpg is the best I've gotten on long trips. Back and forth to work it gets about 24-25 mpg because of stop and go traffic unless I do a lot of high speed running because the highway is wide open (rare). From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 13:32:35 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: "Pete Stephenson" wrote in message news:pete+usenet-573FB2.11101802092005@news.cesmail.net... > In article , > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote: > > > Her doing basically nothing but shop and party doesn't send out a good > > image. She should be doing something to help, even if that's not her job. > > I don't care about image, I care about results. Oh so you'll be wanting to see what shoes she purchased at Prada then? Those the results you're talking about? What results, precisely, has Condi achieved that help the situation in LA? > > If Condi can shop and party while things are getting done, then I don't > give a flying fark. Perhaps you should. From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Fri Sep 2 21:32:46 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:35:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: sounds bloody awful In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: indigo wrote: > Mr K. Mean wrote: > >>You almost have to wonder if it is worth saving. I mean this was sort >>of a disaster waiting to happen. You build a city under sea level in >>an area filled with lots of storms and in a world where the average >>sea levels continue to rise. > > It wasn't below sea level when the city was built, it's been sinking over > the years (hundreds). It is sinking but the sea levels are also rising. This is going to keep happening. There are a number of communities here in the UK that slowly being pulled into the ocean. It isn't an instant thing like New Orleans, but it is slowly happening all over. From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 13:35:00 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:35:17 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" <35zyuhr02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:dfa4vq$17d$3@news.spamcop.net... > I keep thinking, is this really just how close we all are to the Lord of > the Flies? Scary isn't it how little it takes to turn a smoothly (relatively) running western city into a survival of the fittest, he with the biggest gun wins, free for all zone. It's like all those 'fantasy' movies brought to life! From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 16:33:51 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:35:22 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > > > > It would be a PITA for you, not having a basement, but if you were > > really worried about it simple pipe insulation would help greatly. > > Or you could go whole hog and get some line heaters too (like they > > make for gutters) and run them along the pipes and attach them to a > > marine battery for emergencies. > > AH...you make an excellent point - thanks for the reminder! I do > have a basement, accessible now with a bulkhead (last spring's mold > nightmare). Aw crap. I actually contributed something useful to .social! now that they've vented each end of the > basement. That's effing insane! You're begging for disaster. Close off and insulate those vents during the winter, you shouldn't have moisture problems in the winter (open them back up in the summer though). From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 16:17:50 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:40:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: sounds bloody awful References: Message-ID: "Eponym" | > I would assume anyway that someone with a vacation home is | > amply insured against such losses and thus has no need to seek government | > aid. | | Bad assumption. They are insured by the gov't...but their flood insurance | payments do not reflect the actual risk. So, taxpayers are paying for | someone's vacation home. National flood insurance is a scam that mostly | benefits the wealthy. There are thousands of every day folk in and around NOLA that would take exception to that assumption. From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 16:19:38 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:40:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: sounds bloody awful References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" | > Because the Army Corp of Engineers isn't in charge of controlling | > earthquakes? | | But they are in charge of controlling hurricanes? No but they are (am I being presumptuous) in charge of controlling flooding. (hint they are often as not the cause of flooding) From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 16:21:56 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:40:17 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: sounds bloody awful References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" | > They helped create the problem by creating all the levees and canals all | up and down the Mississippi River that blocks the sediment from keeping the | > Delta built up (the Delta used to protect NO from flooding way back when). | | Presumably because the river wouldn't be navigable if they didn't do that. | Maybe they ought to build a big ass pipeling that carries some of the water | away from there into desert areas like the south west. Sure, it'd cost a lot | but California and Nevada are very thirsty and pretty soon our water supply | isn't going to be sufficient. There was, in fact, a serious study of doing just that. the target was North Texas and one case employed a decommissioned oil/gas pipeline. From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 13:37:13 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:40:23 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: hey meanie References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" <35zyuhr02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:dfa5sl$2rd$1@news.spamcop.net... > Well, I'm at 2M down and 500k up. That's sort of their base plan now. > It could be faster but overall it isn't so bad. What I had before was > just on the very edge of usability but this I can live with for a while. > I would be surprised too if BT didn't upgrade over the next year to > make sure they keep people. Oh well that's a lot faster than I thought you'd be getting. I guess living in the city helps. I think MIL's place gets about 500-700kbps but they're kinda out in the sticks a bit. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 16:35:40 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:40:28 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: sounds bloody awful References: Message-ID: Mr K. Mean wrote: > > It is sinking but the sea levels are also rising. This is going to > keep happening. There are a number of communities here in the UK > that slowly being pulled into the ocean. It isn't an instant thing > like New Orleans, but it is slowly happening all over. But the shrub sez global warming ain't proven! From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Fri Sep 2 21:35:55 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:40:35 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: sounds bloody awful In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: indigo wrote: > Sylvesterthekat wrote: > Better >>levees would help but then what if an even bigger storm, or two >>smaller ones in a row happened, or something happening up north as >>well that was feeding the lake and the river to already high levels. >>They're going to have to do better and spend more money than they >>might otherwise have thought was acceptable. > > I again point out that the Dutch have managed to keep out the Atlantic for > how many years now? They probably devote a little more care and money to maintaining the levies. Not to mention that as bad as storms can be in the North Sea, Holland isn't battered regularly by hurricanes. From spamalyzer at isaluzer.net Fri Sep 2 13:38:04 2005 From: spamalyzer at isaluzer.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:40:42 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: sounds bloody awful References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" <35zyuhr02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:dfa68t$3a0$1@news.spamcop.net... > You almost have to wonder if it is worth saving. I mean this was sort > of a disaster waiting to happen. You build a city under sea level in an > area filled with lots of storms and in a world where the average sea > levels continue to rise. No doubt some people are going to have to make a lot of tough decisions and seek a lot of expert advice on how to proceed. From pete+usenet at heypete.com Fri Sep 2 13:39:10 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:40:50 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: In article , "Sylvesterthekat" wrote: > > I don't care about image, I care about results. > > Oh so you'll be wanting to see what shoes she purchased at Prada > then? Those the results you're talking about? What results, > precisely, has Condi achieved that help the situation in LA? Ok, let me make this clear, as I seem to have difficulty in making myself understood: 1) The State Department does not rely on Condi for day-to-day operations. I seriously doubt that anything other than reports make it up to her. I doubt she has to make very many official decisions that put her ass on the line. 2) I don't give a flying fark if she's sitting at home with a beer, at the State Department, or or whatever. Her position as Secretary of State has essentially no bearing whatsoever on the acceptance of international aid or dealing with relief efforts. There are already established rules and procedures for the bureaucracy to follow. 3) Any posturing or time on television for her or other politicial figures is simply for show, not substance. There is nothing she can do to help the relief efforts, unless she goes down there and fills sandbags...which is not her job. > > If Condi can shop and party while things are getting done, then I > > don't give a flying fark. > > Perhaps you should. Why? What could she possibly accomplish that the thousands working at the State Department couldn't? What specific authority does she have that the bureaucracy doesn't? I have no doubt that if there was something absolutely critical that only she could approve, she'd be in her office right away signing/approving whatever it was that was necessary. The fact that she is not doing so suggests that the State Department can handle this job without her input. Same thing with the president and congress -- there's nothing they can do to help this situation other than be a public figure on TV. That is completely irrelevant to any of the actual relief efforts in Louisiana and MIssissippi. As I've said before, I don't care what image is being presented, as long as business gets taken care of. Period. -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 20:38:44 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Bush Lied) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:40:55 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: Pete Stephenson wrote: > Please look at the big picture here -- right now, there's only so much > rescuers, the military, and the Red Cross can do. Efforts are underway > to deliver supplies, but they're limited by the amount of flooding. > People are working on patching the breaches in the levees and getting > the pumps going again. Once that's done, I think you'll see things > progressing at a very rapid pace -- there's plenty of personnel and > supplies staged and ready to move in. > > Also, take into account that some of the people in New Orleans are > /shooting at their rescuers/. One of the main jobs of Search & Rescue is > "don't become another victim", so I can see why they're not eager to go > in there right now while being shot at. > > Things are not failing miserably; this is pretty much par for the course > in disaster recovery. Nobody can just magically snap their fingers and > make everything better again; things need to be done in a certain order > to maximize the rescue efforts. The levees are still breached, 80% of the city is still flooded, but somehow supplies are now beginning to arrive in downtown New Orleans (http://tinyurl.com/dx652). So what's your excuse now for the delay in getting *any* supplies to the ravaged areas? Four days is *totally unacceptable* by anyone's standards, especially when hundreds (thousands?) of people are dying because of lack of essential life-sustaining supplies. -- Bush Lied, Thousands Died. Do you know the real George W. Bush? http://www.bushwatch.com/bushlies.htm From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 16:38:28 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Want to get the government off it's ass? References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:dfa8tp$5fo$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Bush Lied" wrote in message > news:dfa405$19m$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Question. Why are you posting via an open proxy in Thailand? Because he's stupid? Because he's a head case? Because he just can't grasp the concept of FOAD? From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 16:42:52 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:45:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: sounds bloody awful References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > "Sylvesterthekat" > > | > Because the Army Corp of Engineers isn't in charge of controlling > | > earthquakes? > | > | But they are in charge of controlling hurricanes? > > No but they are (am I being presumptuous) in charge of controlling > flooding. (hint they are often as not the cause of flooding) Another example of big business (shippers) controlling what the feds do. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 16:42:18 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:45:17 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Wow, good on 'em. References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dfa86o$4sl$1@news.spamcop.net... > > It will.....it'll go up more. Just think of the cost of each gallon produced > in Europe, then the cost of transporting it by ship to the US. Do we even > have facilities for importing and unloading gasoline? We import crude and > refine it here....... > Does all our gas go to distrubutors via pipeline, or does any of it get shipped in? Can't believe it all goes by pipeline. From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Fri Sep 2 21:44:21 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:45:22 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: hey meanie In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "Mr K. Mean" <35zyuhr02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message > news:dfa5sl$2rd$1@news.spamcop.net... > >>Well, I'm at 2M down and 500k up. That's sort of their base plan now. >>It could be faster but overall it isn't so bad. What I had before was >>just on the very edge of usability but this I can live with for a while. >> I would be surprised too if BT didn't upgrade over the next year to >>make sure they keep people. > > Oh well that's a lot faster than I thought you'd be getting. I guess living > in the city helps. I think MIL's place gets about 500-700kbps but they're > kinda out in the sticks a bit. I might have been able to get faster where I was before, but I was kind of stuck with the company provided standard plan. Here, I set up the contract myself. And the 2M upgrade only happened in about the last two months. A bunch of other providers started offering it so BT had to follow suit. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 16:44:10 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:50:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Good news References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dfa8il$54j$1@news.spamcop.net... > > yeahbutt.....how are they going to get it out of there? Pipelines and the > port are wrecked. Where does it say that? I've been looking all over for specific damage to refineries, and can't find much of anything. Some say they have minor damage and need to check everything out before they start up again, but I haven't seen any of them say "we're toast". From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 16:46:10 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:50:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dfa7al$41f$1@news.spamcop.net... > > It's pitiful. They should have moved tons of supplies, equipment, and > personnel into staging areas prior to the hurricane hitting. They knew damn > well it was going to hit SOMEWHERE hard! They need to be PROactive, not > REactive, in situations like this. When are they going to learn? This is what I'm sayin'....that hurricane was HUGE, and it wasn't a surprise, anyone who has a TV or radio knew the magnitude of it - this kind of incompetence is beyond the pale. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 16:47:38 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:50:18 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Wow, good on 'em. References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:dfa86o$4sl$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > It will.....it'll go up more. Just think of the cost of each gallon > > produced in Europe, then the cost of transporting it by ship to the > > US. Do we even have facilities for importing and unloading > > gasoline? We import crude and refine it here....... > > > Does all our gas go to distrubutors via pipeline, or does any of it > get shipped in? Can't believe it all goes by pipeline. I'm sure someone else will pipe in to confirm, but I doubt a single gallon is imported as gasoline. The profit lies in refining crude into various products. From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Fri Sep 2 21:47:47 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:50:24 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Great quote In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: David Dean wrote: > In article , > "Mr K. Mean" <35zyuhr02@sneakemail.com> wrote: > >>So, big massive FCC fine coming soon to a public radio station near you. > > Why bleep god but not shit? I can understand both, neither or just > shit. I don't give a shit about the FCC. I wasn't asking your opinion of the FCC. I was just saying that putting "shit" on the air, how soon before every NPR affiliate ends up with giant fines. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 16:47:07 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:50:29 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: "David Dean" wrote in message news:ozchzhq02-062179.14575802092005@frylock.local... > I think you're attributing the acts of a few to the many. Even then > how does that justify a "shoot to kill" policy for an act of burglary? If they are shooting at law enforcement officers, they get shot. Those are kind of the rules. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 16:48:54 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:50:36 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:dfa8qb$5eo$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Not all of them, presumably. It would be a bit rough to shoot someone > unarmed who was looting a bit of food. More justified to do it if they're > armed and taking electronics items. > >From what I hear cops are looking the other way when people are taking food and supplies, because they have no choice. There are armed gangs, who are looting everything in sight, attacking people on the street if they have something they want, and shooting at cops and relief helicopters. Those people need to be put down, by whatever means necessary to stop the violence. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 16:49:19 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:dfa8r7$5es$1@news.spamcop.net... > > and Bush patting him on the back and saying "good job!" Birds of a feather..... From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Fri Sep 2 21:51:17 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:55:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:dfa8r7$5es$1@news.spamcop.net... > >>and Bush patting him on the back and saying "good job!" > > Birds of a feather..... So, how long until the Medal of Freedom ceremony? From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 16:53:52 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 15:55:17 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Good news References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:dfa8il$54j$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > yeahbutt.....how are they going to get it out of there? Pipelines > > and the port are wrecked. > > Where does it say that? I've been looking all over for specific > damage to refineries, and can't find much of anything. Some say they > have minor damage and need to check everything out before they start > up again, but I haven't seen any of them say "we're toast". How hard did you gargle? http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050830/ap_on_bi_ge/katrina_oil Onshore, wind and flooding from Hurricane Katrina is expected to have caused enough damage to pipelines, storage tanks and refineries that it could take weeks, and in some cases months, before operations return to normal, analysts said. "It's ugly," said Lawrence J. Goldstein, president of the New York-based nonprofit Petroleum Industry Research Foundation. "Power is a problem, but the water issue is unbelievable." The production and distribution of oil and gas remained severely disrupted by the shutdown of a key oil import terminal off the coast of Louisiana and by the Gulf region's widespread loss of electricity, which is needed to power pipelines and refineries. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 16:54:12 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 16:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dfa9ev$65l$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Aw crap. I actually contributed something useful to .social! I'm sure it's a fluke..... > That's effing insane! You're begging for disaster. You didn't see it last spring, when it had NO ventilation - my ducts were dripping with water, couple of inches on the floor, furnace rusting out at the bottom. It was only the positive mold test and an article I gave him about a tenant who sued her landlord for $4 mill that prompted him to finally put a bulkhead on the basement and put some ventilation down there. Close off and insulate > those vents during the winter, you shouldn't have moisture problems in the > winter (open them back up in the summer though). The vents work, no water this spring at all, but it was VERY drafty last winter, so I'll be closing off a lot of holes. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 16:57:53 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 16:00:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas over $3.00 today... References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dfa97j$5of$1@news.spamcop.net... > > My Acura can ;-) Ok, 29 mpg is the best I've gotten on long trips. Back and > forth to work it gets about 24-25 mpg because of stop and go traffic unless > I do a lot of high speed running because the highway is wide open (rare). I get about 19 or 20, damn sight better than 16.5 with the Trailblazer. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 16:59:51 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 16:00:20 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Interesting article Message-ID: How the Free Market Killed New Orleans The free market played a crucial role in the destruction of New Orleans and the death of thousands of its residents. Armed with advanced warning that a momentous (force 5) hurricane was going to hit that city and surrounding areas, what did officials do? They played the free market. They announced that everyone should evacuate. Everyone was expected to devise their own way out of the disaster area by private means, just as the free market dictates, just like people do when disaster hits free-market Third World countries. It is a beautiful thing this free market in which every individual pursues his or her own personal interests and thereby effects an optimal outcome for the entire society. This is the way the invisible hand works its wonders. There would be none of the collectivistic regimented evacuation as occurred in Cuba. When an especially powerful hurricane hit that island last year, the Castro government, abetted by neighborhood citizen committees and local Communist party cadres, evacuated 1.3 million people, more than 10 percent of the country's population, with not a single life lost, a heartening feat that went largely unmentioned in the U.S. press. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 17:00:03 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 16:05:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Great quote References: Message-ID: "David Dean" wrote in message news:ozchzhq02-35F33A.15015602092005@frylock.local... and they bleeped the word god, but not > shit. Bible belt.... From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 17:01:00 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 16:05:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Wow, good on 'em. References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:dfa7d2$42f$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Considering this is the most fuel-hungry nation on earth, that seems > somewhat foolish! I thought China took over that spot, no? From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 17:02:40 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 16:05:20 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:dfa9ev$65l$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > > Aw crap. I actually contributed something useful to .social! > > I'm sure it's a fluke..... What does a water born parasite have to do with this thread? From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 17:02:20 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 16:05:28 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Wow, good on 'em. References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dfaa8q$6rn$1@news.spamcop.net... > > I'm sure someone else will pipe in to confirm, but I doubt a single gallon > is imported as gasoline. The profit lies in refining crude into various > products. > I didn't mean that, I know that we refine it ourselves (and that there seems to be an orchestrated shortage of them), but how does gasoline travel once refined. Does none of it get shipped ? It can't all go via pipeline, can it? From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Fri Sep 2 22:06:08 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Fri Sep 2 16:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Dateline: Paris In-Reply-To: References: <1125406264.857737.50960@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Heidi wrote: > "Mr K. Mean" <35zyuhr02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message > news:df81kb$pcl$1@news.spamcop.net... > >>Spamvireslayer wrote: >>Ha. I had some of those about two weeks ago. In fact, I think those >>were one of the first ones I had from them. > > Oh yeah? Well they're only REALLY cool if they send some to me........ So, you are never happy, are you? So, they send you some and then they didn't send you enough. Geez. But today, it was biscotti getting passed around. So, they are still being nice to me. From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 16:46:54 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Fri Sep 2 16:10:16 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Wow, good on 'em. References: Message-ID: "indigo" | > > PARIS (Reuters) - Europe will dip into its emergency stocks of | > > gasoline to help the United States through an energy crisis | > > triggered by Hurricane Katrina smashing into Gulf Coast refiners, | > > EU governments said on Friday. | > | > Yay! Now let's see if that affects the price any! | | It will.....it'll go up more. Just think of the cost of each gallon produced | in Europe, then the cost of transporting it by ship to the US. Do we even | have facilities for importing and unloading gasoline? We import crude and | refine it here....... Houston, Pascagoula, Mobile, Florida, Bay Town/Port Author TX. Lake Charles LA. come to mind quickly. Also they can transfer to unit tow fuel barges and deliver most anywhere there is a wide spot in the bayou. From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 16:50:05 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Fri Sep 2 16:10:22 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tragedy brings out the best in people References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" | | > I'm not talking about your Sunday day sailor craft. A stout commercial | > vessel would do quite well. (I've been in 40-50 seas in a round bottom | tug boat a few time and more than once in a commercial shrimp boat.) | | did you turn green at the gills? In a word? No. Insides hurt from the buffeting. From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 16:52:59 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Fri Sep 2 16:10:28 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: "Pete Stephenson" | > Ok when is President Regardless going to get the program in gear? | | What, realistically, do you expect him to do? | | FEMA's there, the Guard is there, the Red Cross is there, martial law | has been declared, efforts to plug the breaches in the levees are | underway, etc. | | What more do you think can be done, other than allowing operations | currently in progress to continue? The president can't can't the levees | get repaired any faster, nor can he make the pumps move water any | quicker. Perhaps if the government got in gear a bit faster. I seen it done before so I know it can be done. (see my post on air drops to Afghanistan) From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 17:01:42 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Fri Sep 2 16:10:34 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Wow, good on 'em. References: Message-ID: "indigo" | > > It will.....it'll go up more. Just think of the cost of each gallon | > > produced in Europe, then the cost of transporting it by ship to the | > > US. Do we even have facilities for importing and unloading | > > gasoline? We import crude and refine it here....... | > > | > Does all our gas go to distributors via pipeline, or does any of it | > get shipped in? Can't believe it all goes by pipeline. | | I'm sure someone else will pipe in to confirm, but I doubt a single gallon | is imported as gasoline. The profit lies in refining crude into various | products. Not sure but I recall a recent story on CNN that indicated that Bush has lifted the prohibition on importing refined fuel. From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 17:05:47 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Fri Sep 2 16:10:39 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Good news References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" | > yeahbutt.....how are they going to get it out of there? Pipelines and the | > port are wrecked. | | Where does it say that? I've been looking all over for specific damage to | refineries, and can't find much of anything. Some say they have minor damage and | need to check everything out before they start up again, but I haven't seen any of | them say "we're toast". Big problem is going to be finding the people to operate the plants. My family is heavy into the petro-chem and marine business. Almost none of them are anywhere near enough to get to work in less than two days likely longer. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 17:07:55 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 16:10:44 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Good news References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dfaakg$76e$1@news.spamcop.net... > > How hard did you gargle? > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050830/ap_on_bi_ge/katrina_oil > Onshore, wind and flooding from Hurricane Katrina is expected to have caused > enough damage to pipelines, storage tanks and refineries that it could take > weeks, and in some cases months, before operations return to normal, > analysts said. "EXPECTED TO HAVE CAUSED"...I was looking for real damage reports and estimates of ETA. It sounds like they can't get in to even assess the damage yet. Amazing that we have all our eggs in the same basket, isn't? One little hiccup in the supply line and it's a disaster? No contingency plan to get it from other areas? Good thing for terrorists to know - how to cripple America? Blow up the gulf shoreline..... From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 17:09:52 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 16:15:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Dateline: Paris References: <1125406264.857737.50960@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" <35zyuhr02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:dfabbi$7m9$1@news.spamcop.net... > So, you are never happy, are you? So, they send you some and then they > didn't send you enough. Geez. But today, it was biscotti getting > passed around. So, they are still being nice to me. I'll settle for a token gesture....just as a gesture of good faith, then I MIGHT let them get by with being 'nice'.... What kind of biscotti? *sniff* From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 17:11:56 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 16:15:21 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dfab51$7kq$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > I'm sure it's a fluke..... > > What does a water born parasite have to do with this thread? They have pointed heads, just like Gumby....... From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 17:13:38 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 16:15:28 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Wow, good on 'em. References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:dfaa8q$6rn$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > I'm sure someone else will pipe in to confirm, but I doubt a single > > gallon is imported as gasoline. The profit lies in refining crude > > into various products. > > > I didn't mean that, I know that we refine it ourselves (and that > there seems to be an orchestrated shortage of them), but how does > gasoline travel once refined. Does none of it get shipped ? It > can't all go via pipeline, can it? I think FP said it all goes thru pipelines. It's got to be the most efficient way to distribute it. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 17:13:28 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 16:15:34 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" <35zyuhr02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:dfaafn$68n$4@news.spamcop.net... > So, how long until the Medal of Freedom ceremony? They'll probably do it at the next New Orleans Saints football game.....I see they are, repugnantly, going on with their season, just in another venue. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 21:14:32 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Bush Lied) Date: Fri Sep 2 16:15:40 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Want to get the government off it's ass? References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote: > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:dfa8tp$5fo$1@news.spamcop.net... > >>"Bush Lied" wrote in message >>news:dfa405$19m$1@news.spamcop.net... >> >>Question. Why are you posting via an open proxy in Thailand? > > > Because he's stupid? Because he's a head case? Because he just can't > grasp the concept of FOAD? Because we can, and there isn't a damn thing you can do about it? Because every time we post something you demonstrate just how technically incompetent you really are? Because it proves once again that you have absolutely no life at all besides this newsgroup? LOL, you're funny. Really. :-) -- Bush Lied, Thousands Died. Do you know the real George W. Bush? http://www.bushwatch.com/bushlies.htm From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 17:16:20 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Sep 2 16:20:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Wow, good on 'em. References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dfabpj$86l$1@news.spamcop.net... > > I think FP said it all goes thru pipelines. It's got to be the most > efficient way to distribute it. > I thought we had tankers bringing it to this area, but I guess that's LNG. So all the gas that we need in New England arrives at distributors via pipeline? ONLY? Bizarre. From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Fri Sep 2 21:20:50 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Fri Sep 2 16:25:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tragedy brings out the best in people References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in news:dfa8i6$54i$1 @news.spamcop.net: > Bound, but unfortunately not gagged....LOL > Hmm, interesting prospects. Are you willing to be bound and gagged???? From post.please.this.email.is.not.valid at example.com Fri Sep 2 16:22:47 2005 From: post.please.this.email.is.not.valid at example.com (DougW) Date: Fri Sep 2 16:25:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas over $3.00 today... References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer did pass the time by typing: > "indigo" wrote ... >> >> My Acura can ;-) Ok, 29 mpg is the best I've gotten on long trips. Back and >> forth to work it gets about 24-25 mpg because of stop and go traffic unless >> I do a lot of high speed running because the highway is wide open (rare). > > I get about 19 or 20, damn sight better than 16.5 with the Trailblazer. "Gas guzzling SUV" here. only 17 city and 22 highway. 6 if I leadfoot it. 8) The "" are because it replaced a Chevy Pickup that got 8mpg. -- -- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge! From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 17:12:26 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Fri Sep 2 16:25:22 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Interesting article References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dfaavn$7bj$1@news.spamcop.net... | How the Free Market Killed New Orleans | | The free market played a crucial role in the destruction of New Orleans | and the death of thousands of its residents. Armed with advanced warning | that a momentous (force 5) hurricane was going to hit that city and | surrounding areas, what did officials do? They played the free market. | | They announced that everyone should evacuate. Everyone was expected to | devise their own way out of the disaster area by private means, just as | the free market dictates, just like people do when disaster hits | free-market Third World countries. | | It is a beautiful thing this free market in which every individual | pursues his or her own personal interests and thereby effects an optimal | outcome for the entire society. This is the way the invisible hand works | its wonders. | | There would be none of the collectivistic regimented evacuation as | occurred in Cuba. When an especially powerful hurricane hit that island | last year, the Castro government, abetted by neighborhood citizen | committees and local Communist party cadres, evacuated 1.3 million | people, more than 10 percent of the country's population, with not a | single life lost, a heartening feat that went largely unmentioned in the | U.S. press. How about a link? From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 17:16:45 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Fri Sep 2 16:25:27 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Great quote References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" | and they bleeped the word god, but not | > shit. | | Bible belt.... | New Orleans may be a lot of things but Bible Belt is not one of them. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 17:32:20 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 16:35:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Jump at the Pump References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:dfab51$7kq$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > > I'm sure it's a fluke..... > > > > What does a water born parasite have to do with this thread? > > They have pointed heads, just like Gumby....... No, Gumby has a slanted head! I know for a fact every morning when I look in the mirror (that's what you get for sleeping on only one side of your body all night long ;-) From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 17:32:26 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Fri Sep 2 16:35:16 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Wow, good on 'em. References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:dfac0a$8eo$1@news.spamcop.net... | | "indigo" wrote in message news:dfabpj$86l$1@news.spamcop.net... | > | > I think FP said it all goes thru pipelines. It's got to be the most | > efficient way to distribute it. | > | I thought we had tankers bringing it to this area, but I guess that's LNG. So all | the gas that we need in New England arrives at distributors via pipeline? ONLY? | Bizarre. NG goes to NE and most of the north east via pipe line. Old bumer sticker in LA and Texas ' Shut the valve let the Yankee bastards freeze in the dark' back when the price to the NE was much less then the local price in TX/LA. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 17:32:56 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 16:35:22 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Interesting article References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > > How about a link? I found that on a Yahoo Finance message board, no link included. From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Fri Sep 2 22:33:17 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Fri Sep 2 16:35:27 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Dateline: Paris In-Reply-To: References: <1125406264.857737.50960@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "Mr K. Mean" <35zyuhr02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message > news:dfabbi$7m9$1@news.spamcop.net... > >>So, you are never happy, are you? So, they send you some and then they >>didn't send you enough. Geez. But today, it was biscotti getting >>passed around. So, they are still being nice to me. > > I'll settle for a token gesture....just as a gesture of good faith, then I MIGHT let > them get by with being 'nice'.... > > What kind of biscotti? *sniff* I don't know, are there different kinds? It was crunchy and had almonds or something in them. I'm not really up on different kinds of sweet things. I don't know if I'm going to let you settle for them being nice. Demanding tokens and all that, who knows, they might just end up being mean to you. Just don't mess up my chocolate pipeline with your "might let them" stuff. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 17:33:47 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Sep 2 16:35:36 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "Mr K. Mean" <35zyuhr02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message > news:dfaafn$68n$4@news.spamcop.net... > > So, how long until the Medal of Freedom ceremony? > > They'll probably do it at the next New Orleans Saints football > game.....I see they are, repugnantly, going on with their season, > just in another venue. WTF do you expect them to do? Quit their jobs? From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Fri Sep 2 22:05:29 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Fri Sep 2 17:10:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Interesting Article Message-ID: Interesting on how each person sees something different, and the Feds are totally clueless. http://edition.cnn.com/2005/US/09/02/katrina.response/ or http://tinyurl.com/cxaw4 From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Fri Sep 2 23:43:29 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Fri Sep 2 17:45:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Interesting article In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:dfaavn$7bj$1@news.spamcop.net... > | How the Free Market Killed New Orleans > > How about a link? Ahh, I thought the style seemed familiar. It is Michael Parenti. http://www.zmag.org/sustainers/content/2005-09/03parenti.cfm From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 17:51:24 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Cat) Date: Fri Sep 2 17:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Does anyone know if Cat is OK? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: JohnL wrote: > Cat wrote in news:df5s4u$ha5$1 > @news.spamcop.net: > > >>Aww, thanks for your concern. I'm doing ok, and my area in the northern >>part of Mississippi wasn't hit too hard. > > Will add my comments that I am also glad to hear things are "not so bad". > ;-) > Hope grandparents are ok also. Thanks. It's been an emotional week for me. Even though I never lived on the coast, it's still a big part of me and my family history on my dad's side. It's hard seeing the pictures and hearing stuff about places that are so familiar to me from all the times I've been down there. Just seeing pictures and news footage of all these familiar places and landmarks makes me absolutely sick. Finally heard some news from my dad today about my grandparents. Keesler AFB suffered a lot of damage, and even the hospital generators weren't working properly. My grandfather had been in the hospital there since before the hurricane and was scheduled for surgery but had to be transported to a hospital in San Antonio, TX, along with other patients. My dad was able to go down to the coast and spent two days searching before finally finding my grandmother at a shelter, so they're on their way to San Antonio today. My grandparents' house suffered a lot of damage, mostly to the roof and ceiling, but my dad said it can be fixed so the house is still livable and won't have to be torn down. Even with all the damage, I'm relieved to hear that they'll be able to fix it and still live in the house. My stepsister's husband's parents were in Bay St. Louis, MS, and lost their house. My stepdad and stepbrother-in-law went down there and were able to get them out, so they'll be staying at my stepsister and her husband's house for a while. As for local hurricane-related issues, the phones are still wiggy here. Cell phone usage is spotty. My long distance is still down but local calling and DSL is ok. I'm surprised I was able to get through to my dad's cell but at least I finally did. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 18:49:08 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Fri Sep 2 17:55:20 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: where's the international help? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dfacvc$9b3$1@news.spamcop.net... > > WTF do you expect them to do? Quit their jobs? I don't know what I expect, except maybe that they show a little respect and sympathy for the community that supports them. For them to continue on as if nothing has happened is really really disgusting to me. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 22:53:39 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Bush Lied) Date: Fri Sep 2 17:55:26 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] FEMA directing Katrina donations to Rev. Pat Robertson Message-ID: They've apparently dropped Operation Blessing from their list now, but there's enough evidence to suggest that it was there at one time: http://www.fema.gov/news/newsrelease.fema?id=18473 http://tinyurl.com/ex88s http://blogs.positiveuniverse.com/archives/215 -- Bush Lied, Thousands Died. Do you know the real George W. Bush? http://www.bushwatch.com/bushlies.htm From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 17:56:02 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Cat) Date: Fri Sep 2 18:00:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Does anyone know if Cat is OK? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Cat wrote: > As for local hurricane-related issues, the phones are still wiggy here. > Cell phone usage is spotty. My long distance is still down but local > calling and DSL is ok. I'm surprised I was able to get through to my > dad's cell but at least I finally did. Almost forgot to add that my mom and stepdad finally got power back last night in Columbus. I'm sure my dad's is back on, too. Aside from phone issues, everything else has been ok at my apartment since the power came back on Tuesday morning here. From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Sat Sep 3 00:01:42 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Fri Sep 2 18:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Great quote In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: David Dean wrote: > In article , > "Spamvireslayer" wrote: > >> Mayor Ray Nagin > > I think I heard an excerpt of this interview on NPR this morning what > struck me as odd was that he had said something like "they need to get > their god damn shit into gear?" and they bleeped the word god, but not > shit. Full interview is at http://www.atypical.net/mm/nagin.mp3 From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 18:06:09 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Cat) Date: Fri Sep 2 18:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Does anyone know if Cat is OK? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Miss Betsy wrote: > "Cat" wrote in message > news:df5sik$hje$1@news.spamcop.net... > I'm about a 4-5 hour drive inland from the > >>coast in Starkville, MS, (home of the MSU bulldogs! sorry, couldn't > >>resist adding that one) and my parents are in Columbus, the next > > town to the east of here. > > > My husband will probably be leaving next week as an American Red > Cross Volunteer. Could I give him your name & contact info in case > he goes anywhere near Starkville? It would be nice to have a local > contact. Sure. I'll send you an e-mail with a subject something like "hi from Cat at SpamCop so you won't think it's spam when you don't recognize the name/address on it. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 19:11:14 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Fri Sep 2 18:20:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Gas prices changed yet again Message-ID: All the local stations were the same at lunchtime - on the way home, the two stations (GIBBS, avoid them) raised their prices .20., 3.29. I went to my usual haunt after work and the best I could find was 3.07. GRR. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 23:16:16 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Bush Lied) Date: Fri Sep 2 18:20:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: FEMA directing Katrina donations to Rev. Pat Robertson References: Message-ID: "Bush Lied" wrote: > They've apparently dropped Operation Blessing from their list now, > but there's enough evidence to suggest that it was there at one time: UPDATE (with screen capture): http://tinyurl.com/cqnn6 -- Bush Lied, Thousands Died. Do you know the real George W. Bush? http://www.bushwatch.com/bushlies.htm From borgholio at storymind.com Fri Sep 2 16:18:48 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Fri Sep 2 18:20:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices changed yet again In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Heidi wrote: > All the local stations were the same at lunchtime - on the way home, the two > stations (GIBBS, avoid them) raised their prices .20., 3.29. I went to my > usual haunt after work and the best I could find was 3.07. GRR. > > Hops on his motorcycle... From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Sep 2 19:15:53 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Fri Sep 2 18:20:20 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Dateline: Paris References: <1125406264.857737.50960@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" <35zyuhr02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:dfacue$9au$1@news.spamcop.net... > I don't know, are there different kinds? It was crunchy and had almonds > or something in them. I'm not really up on different kinds of sweet things. Well yeah, there's some chocolate, lemon, hazelnut, yadda yadda yadda...the traditional stuff is just plain with almonds. > > I don't know if I'm going to let you settle for them being nice. > Demanding tokens and all that, who knows, they might just end up being > mean to you. Just d