From hee.haw at jack.ass Tue Mar 1 00:49:24 2005 From: hee.haw at jack.ass (DC) Date: Tue Mar 1 00:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Oscar=AE_Night?= Message-ID: Think Sean Penn will kick Chris Rock's a$$ ???? -- It rubs the lotion on its skin... Or else it gets the hose again... www.dwacon.com From agent01413 at my-deja.com Tue Mar 1 09:33:11 2005 From: agent01413 at my-deja.com (Socks the Whitehouse Cat) Date: Tue Mar 1 04:35:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: God's Back with a Vengeance References: Message-ID: "LadySarah" wrote in news:d00d49$tp8$1 @news.spamcop.net: > > > First I pay attention to real people, not charlatans. I turn them off, > dismiss them as idiots. Why should I know who Phelps is? > he's dangerous. he's walking the streets of our land free. he represents the religious right. When's the last time you heard a preacher of integrity (and there are such things) condemn him> -- "...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in one pretty and well preserved piece, but to slide across the finish line broadside, thoroughly used up, worn out, leaking oil, and shouting GERONIMO!!!" -- Bill McKenna, date unknown From agent01413 at my-deja.com Tue Mar 1 10:57:12 2005 From: agent01413 at my-deja.com (Socks the Whitehouse Cat) Date: Tue Mar 1 06:00:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: God's Back with a Vengeance References: Message-ID: "LadySarah" wrote in news:d00dfs$tue$1@news.spamcop.net: > "Frog Prince" wrote in message > news:cvv23h$v6p$1@news.spamcop.net... >> >> "Rick Carlton" >> >> | Would that be the "Reverend" Phelps and crew? >> | >> | I dunno what appalled me more... >> | >> | The protests at Matthew Shephard's funeral with the "Matthew is >> | rotting in Hell" signs and godhatesfaags.com, or the more recent >> | blessing of the December tsunaami and godhatessweden.com. >> | >> | Oh wait... it was that the current administration hires Phelps and >> | crew to consult on issues regarding gays and lesbians in society. >> | >> | I have to wonder at what point that preservation of >> | life/anti-choice stance moves over into "kill the fag." >> >> I would be interested in anyone's reading of Bible verse where Christ >> tells >> His followers how they should treat their neighbors and the other >> passage where He tells his followers how to treat their enemies. I >> don't recall a >> single instance of Christ telling His followers to Hate. >> >> Yet many preachers and more followers seem most anxiously, almost >> eagerly, ready to grab a bag of rocks. >> > > > You generalize that "many preachers" teach hate. Name them and give > the quotes. Phelps Fallwell Dobson Pius IX Leo XIII Pius XII Spanish Inquisition Crusaders i dont need quotes. anyone who followed history has them at their fingertips. Pius IX and Leo XIII actively incited war against the new Italian state, aggressively lobbying the French, Bismarck, the Austrians, and others to attack and divide Italy to give them back their temporal power in the papal states. Pius XII supported the Nazis. Phelps preaches hate against gays, as does Dobson. The Spanish Inquisition and Crusaders speak for themselves. -- "...Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in one pretty and well preserved piece, but to slide across the finish line broadside, thoroughly used up, worn out, leaking oil, and shouting GERONIMO!!!" -- Bill McKenna, date unknown From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 06:43:06 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Tue Mar 1 06:40:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: APT Tax References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:d00har$tc$2@news.spamcop.net... > > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:d00eb6$un5$1@news.spamcop.net... > > | > I can't imagine a marital relationship that was that reparative, > | > but I have known people who accept that it is just a matter of > | > course that the husband does not pay the household expenses. The > | > marriages lasted a long time. > | > | Who does pay it, if the wife is a home maker looking after the kids rather > | than going to work? Is she supposed to go on the game to support the > family? > | > | What expenses DOES the husband pay then, if not household (in a two income > | family)? Seems to me that if you both have an income you should have a > joint > | account and everything should come out of that one account rather than > | saying you pay the mortgage, I'll buy the food etc. > > In this context I assume Miss Betsy was referring to the woman handling the > family finances and not necessarily providing the family income. No, SKat has the right idea. I don't know all the details, because as I said in my other answer, I was too flabbergasted to be able to ask a polite question. But the man uses his money for the things he wants, not on household expenses like groceries. I guess, when he is there, he may kick in some, but if he has a traveling job, when he is on the road, he doesn't send any money home. And he definitely doesn't contribute to clothes or any extras she may want (like a dryer). It may come from farm families where farm wives managed the truck garden and eggs for store bought stuff and food for the table and the farmer did the other work, but that's a total guess on my part. I could see how if the farm family moved to town that the farm wife would continue to provide the groceries and clothing, but instead of the work of her own hands, it comes out of her paycheck. But, although I don't know many instances, I have heard about families like that in several parts of the country so it would seem to be a typical situation for some. Miss Betsy From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 06:44:52 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Tue Mar 1 06:45:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: APT Tax References: Message-ID: "JerryMouse" wrote in message news:d00omu$6p7$1@news.spamcop.net... > I said to a bartender once: "Do you realize there are over 50,000 women who > are beaten, in this country, every day?" > > He just looked at me for a long time and finally said: "I had no idea there > were that many women who wouldn't mind." > > Sexist pig! You must be as old as I am to dig up that one! Miss Betsy From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 07:00:51 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Tue Mar 1 07:00:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: God's Back with a Vengeance References: Message-ID: "LadySarah" wrote in message news:d00dfs$tue$1@news.spamcop.net... > You generalize that "many preachers" teach hate. Name them and give the > quotes. I don't believe you. Yes I have heard a very few who made it to TV > news because they were so outrageous. Some who have taught hate of whites > and probably some white supremacists say they are preachers. I think I saw > outrageous supposed "preachers" on Jerry Springer or Oprah a long time ago. > But I hope you don't buy into those kinds of claims. Surely you are smarter > than that. FP knows what he speaks of, IMHO, because he is an active member of the community and meets these people at funerals and weddings or in the course of his community volunteering probably. Or, at least, that's my perception because that's how I know. I didn't know who the Rev. Phelps is, but I do know about a group in this area who spend their Saturdays on street corners shouting the same sentiments. And you are right that some church members are appalled. In addition, FP and I (because of the military) have seen the same things in many different places. And we probably know as many or more dedicated Christians who try to follow the Gospel as you do since we are both active members of our churches. We just don't pick up our perceptions from TV or other media. Broaden your horizons, Lady. Miss Betsy From i83vgwcn02 at sneakemail.com Tue Mar 1 12:11:56 2005 From: i83vgwcn02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Tue Mar 1 07:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Walmart to Sell Wine References: Message-ID: In article , Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message >> >> Is that the two buck Chuck wine? I had some of that a year or so ago >> and it was pretty good. But I heard the story on that one was there was >> a divorce and he was getting rid of the inventory really cheaply to kind >> of screw over the ex. > > Does that mean it's a finite thing? I hope not, I buy that all the time now! Aack, I have to send myself to Snopes to correct myself. And I heard it from my father and I thought he knew all about wine. Like he has his own coolers in the basement for his collection. http://www.snopes.com/business/market/shawwine.asp But I guess I can see how they would make money off of it. Really, it is just basically grape juice that has been sitting around for a while. You don't see Welches struggling to survive not charging $15 for a bottle of grape juice. Just streamline the process and sell high volume and you could probably make good money. From devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 07:41:35 2005 From: devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Tue Mar 1 07:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "DC" wrote in message news:d00vp3$cdj$1@news.spamcop.net... > Think Sean Penn will kick Chris Rock's a$$ ???? I think Sean Penn needs to get a sense of humor - what a prig..... From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 08:19:41 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue Mar 1 08:35:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: God's Back with a Vengeance References: Message-ID: "Rick Carlton" wrote in message news:d012t6$enh$1@news.spamcop.net... | How different is that perspective - when you net it out - from the | Christian vs. Muslim debate - ignoring the huge number of peaceful | Muslims, or the very recent decision by Catholics to continue "reaching | out" to Jews to help them overcome their wrong beliefs? Baptist are into that program as well. We occasionally get a traveling preacher (a converted Jew) who incidentally wears a Yamak (spl?0 when he speaks who is a self proclaimed missionary to the Jews. Last I heard he was in SW Texas (not kidding) trying to convert the massive Jewish population. Just a guess but I'm estimating he is gifted with almost $1000 per month from the Baptist churches in this area alone. I will say this for the man he does his conversion business quietly and with out the 'typical' hammering on peoples fears. From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 08:22:40 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue Mar 1 08:35:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: God's Back with a Vengeance References: Message-ID: "Miss Betsy" | Broaden your horizons, Lady. Very good advice. but don't limit the process to the religious segment. From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 08:24:41 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue Mar 1 08:35:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: APT Tax References: Message-ID: "Miss Betsy" | > In this context I assume Miss Betsy was referring to the woman | handling the family finances and not necessarily providing the family income. | | No, SKat has the right idea. I don't know all the details, because | as I said in my other answer, I was too flabbergasted to be able to | ask a polite question. But the man uses his money for the things | he wants, not on household expenses like groceries. I guess, when | he is there, he may kick in some, but if he has a traveling job, | when he is on the road, he doesn't send any money home. And he | definitely doesn't contribute to clothes or any extras she may want | (like a dryer). It may come from farm families where farm wives | managed the truck garden and eggs for store bought stuff and food | for the table and the farmer did the other work, but that's a total | guess on my part. I could see how if the farm family moved to town | that the farm wife would continue to provide the groceries and | clothing, but instead of the work of her own hands, it comes out of | her paycheck. | | But, although I don't know many instances, I have heard about | families like that in several parts of the country so it would seem | to be a typical situation for some. Those sort of men are not husbands in any connotation they are pimps. From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 09:06:38 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (LadySarah) Date: Tue Mar 1 09:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: God's Back with a Vengeance References: Message-ID: "Socks the Whitehouse Cat" wrote in message news:Xns960C19D378C64agent01413MYDEJACOM@216.154.195.61... > "LadySarah" wrote in news:d00d49$tp8$1 > @news.spamcop.net: > >> >> >> First I pay attention to real people, not charlatans. I turn them off, >> dismiss them as idiots. Why should I know who Phelps is? >> > > he's dangerous. > > he's walking the streets of our land free. > > he represents the religious right. When's the last time you heard a > preacher of integrity (and there are such things) condemn him> > He does not represent the religious right any more than Billy Graham, or any other preacher represent the religious right. We do not have a "Pope" or anyone that speaks for us as a group. Has Phelps broken a law? Had he traded drugs or killed anyone? He does not need to be "off the streets" until he does break a law. There is free speech for idiots on the right the same as there is for leftists who are idiots. What preacher of integrity do you think should speak to the rev Phelps? Who is worthy to do it in your book? -- LadySarah From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 09:14:58 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (LadySarah) Date: Tue Mar 1 09:15:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: God's Back with a Vengeance References: Message-ID: "Socks the Whitehouse Cat" wrote in message news:Xns960C2836814A8agent01413MYDEJACOM@216.154.195.61... > "LadySarah" wrote in > news:d00dfs$tue$1@news.spamcop.net: >> You generalize that "many preachers" teach hate. Name them and give >> the quotes. > > Phelps don't know him > Fallwell Have you heard him preach? I doubt it so why do you comment on something you do not know. You need a quote here to show you know what you are talking about. > Dobson Again, you do not know what you are talking about. Dobson is not a preacher, he is a Christian psychologist. > Pius IX > Leo XIII > Pius XII > Spanish Inquisition > Crusaders Someone here said these people, and wars, were wrong. These people were Catholic and represent the religion of that day. Note I said "religion". It was religion run-amuck. They were men only, not God. They were wrong and are a great example of what happens when man runs a religion, then trys to be a "god.". > > i dont need quotes. anyone who followed history has them at their > fingertips. Pius IX and Leo XIII actively incited war against the new > Italian state, aggressively lobbying the French, Bismarck, the > Austrians, and others to attack and divide Italy to give them back their > temporal power in the papal states. Pius XII supported the Nazis. > Phelps preaches hate against gays, as does Dobson. The Spanish > Inquisition and Crusaders speak for themselves. > You do need quotes because you know absolutely nothing about Christianity or its preachers. -- LadySarah From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 09:20:13 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (LadySarah) Date: Tue Mar 1 09:25:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: God's Back with a Vengeance References: Message-ID: "Miss Betsy" wrote in message news:d01la4$ttt$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > Broaden your horizons, Lady. > I could say the same to you. You are very narrow in your perceptions of who I am and what Christians are. You only have your experiences, and I only have mine. That is supposed to be what discussions are all about, finding out what others experience and know. However, it seems that you want to displace my experience and world view with an imitation of only your own. It is very sad. -- LadySarah From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 09:36:05 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (LadySarah) Date: Tue Mar 1 09:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: God's Back with a Vengeance References: Message-ID: "Rick Carlton" wrote in message news:d012t6$enh$1@news.spamcop.net... > LadySarah wrote: >> You generalize that "many preachers" teach hate. Name them and give the >> quotes. I don't believe you. Yes I have heard a very few who made it to >> TV news because they were so outrageous. Some who have taught hate of >> whites and probably some white supremacists say they are preachers. I >> think I saw outrageous supposed "preachers" on Jerry Springer or Oprah a >> long time ago. But I hope you don't buy into those kinds of claims. >> Surely you are smarter than that. > > I'm gonna be Charlie Brown with the football one more time perhaps, but > just in case.... > > Yes, Fred Phelps is a preacher in Topeka, Kansas. He and his church > travel around the country preaching a very special brand of love. I get to > see them personally every year when they protest in San Francisco during > the Pride celebration. > > Do take some time and read through godhatesfags.com - and > godhatessweden.com - where the WBC is thankful for the Tsunami because it > killed Swedes whose country allows gays and lesbians fully integrated > privileges in society - thus inviting God's harsh judgement. > > How different is that perspective - when you net it out - from the > Christian vs. Muslim debate - ignoring the huge number of peaceful > Muslims, or the very recent decision by Catholics to continue "reaching > out" to Jews to help them overcome their wrong beliefs? > > I have to think that the Southern Baptist Convention - or whatever > organization credentials the WBC - could do something about this - if they > both wanted and chose to. Not shut them down, but certainly take away > their implicit cloak of approval and funding source. > > But let's face it - intolerance is the name of today's winning game. > > And to see exactly why I am calling myself a Charlie Brown on this - > please check out this article from last October on Salon. I expect you > don't read Salon much, but this is less of an editorial piece - and more > of an experiential piece - about Ohio. > > Of course it's from before the election - which makes it all the more > spooky given the outcome of your state initiatives. > > http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/10/30/haters/index.html I cannot open the link. It appears to be a browser hijack link. It changes to http://content.ultramercial.com/start.um/1=162http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/10/30/haters/index_np.html Perhaps it isn't a browser hijack but it certainly is not a good link. I use to read Salon.com before it went to a for pay subscription. It is just not worth the Internet hassle to try and read an article there. You can copy and paste it hear for me to read. Ohio was solidly for President Bush no matter what you read in the leftist papers. Get over it. Kerry lost big time here. Now to Phelps. On the opening page he does nothing but quote scripture. It speaks for itself and is not hate. Inside his links are full of hate. I can't imagine any fundamentalist Christian would like what that guy is saying. God does not hate Swedan or Iraq or Muslims or homosexuals. God loves the sinner the same as he loves the follower. But yes, there are lists of sins in the Bible and people are sinners that live a life practicing them. But that is not hate, that is love. I don't expect you to understand that. If you want to know what God hates, it is in the Bible. It is spelled out very clearly in Proverbs, old testament. "Proverbs 6:16-19 (IV) -- "These six things doth the Lord hate; yea, seven are an abomination unto him; A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, A heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren." -- LadySarah From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 09:53:59 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue Mar 1 10:00:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: God's Back with a Vengeance References: Message-ID: "LadySarah" | > | > Broaden your horizons, Lady. | > | | I could say the same to you. You are very narrow in your perceptions of who | I am and what Christians are. You only have your experiences, and I only | have mine. That is supposed to be what discussions are all about, finding | out what others experience and know. However, it seems that you want to | displace my experience and world view with an imitation of only your own. | It is very sad. I give up. Some things are not worth the effort and attendant grief epically when I should know from the get-go it's on a road to nowhere. From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 10:01:33 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (LadySarah) Date: Tue Mar 1 10:05:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] quotes on Phelps Message-ID: http://www.layman.org/layman/news/news-around-church/hateful-pastor-distorts.htm The family congregation Usually unmentioned is the fact that Phelps does not represent more than a few dozen friends and relatives who attend his small Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka, Kansas. He claims 200 members for his congregation, but only about 50 or 60 attend. Most seem to be family members. He has 13 children and 42 grandchildren, most living in the Topeka area. The church seems to be self-funding and does not accept outside contributions. Eleven of the children and some of the grandchildren are lawyers. (Phelps himself is a disbarred attorney.) Their combined incomes and legal firepower make the family congregation a potent little group. The church reportedly spends $250,000 a year flying Phelps and his demonstrators from one publicity stunt to the next. The Westboro Baptist Church has not successfully attracted new adherents, which is probably just fine with Phelps. His demonstrations across the country over the last 7 years appear to be comprised entirely of relatives. The church does not seem to have any denominational tie. It describes itself as primitive Baptist and strict Calvinist. Falwell calls Phelps idiot http://www1.roanoke.com/rt_specials/shooting/story11.html The Rev. Jerry Falwell called Phelps "another idiot" in an interview Monday in which he condemned the killing of Overstreet. "It is a terrible thing when a bigot or even a deranged person because of his hatred sets out to hurt another human being." If shooting suspect Ronald Gay "is not deranged, I'm sure he will be penalized to the full extent of the law, which in my opinion should be execution." ---------------- Phelps against Falwell http://www.cnn.com/US/9910/23/gay.violence.summit.02/ Meeting draws protests Falwell's decision to sit down with White and his delegation of gay and lesbian Christians drew dozens of protesters. Among them was the Rev. Fred Phelps, a stridently anti-gay Kansas minister who brought protesters to last year's funeral for Matthew Shepard, a gay Wyoming college student beaten to death. "Falwell used to teach the Bible word for word. Now, he's going off and meeting with these fags and going against everything he's ever taught," Phelps said. Phelps and his group plan to protest Sunday outside of Falwell's Thomas Road Baptist Church, where White and members of the gay delegation are scheduled to attend Sunday services. -------------- Phelps doesn't like Graham, Falwell, Roberston. Maybe he is a left winger. http://www.adl.org/special_reports/wbc/wbc_on_christians.asp "Methodist, Episcopal, Lutheran, Presbyterian, Catholic, Northern and Southern Baptist, Church of Christ, Assembly of God, etc. have all departed from God. Most well-known preachers (Billy Graham, Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, etc.) have departed from God, and disassociated themselves with pure Gospel preaching." ------------------ -- LadySarah From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 10:06:51 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (LadySarah) Date: Tue Mar 1 10:10:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: God's Back with a Vengeance References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:d01vov$6qn$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "LadySarah" > | > > | > Broaden your horizons, Lady. > | > > | > | I could say the same to you. You are very narrow in your perceptions of > who > | I am and what Christians are. You only have your experiences, and I only > | have mine. That is supposed to be what discussions are all about, > finding > | out what others experience and know. However, it seems that you want to > | displace my experience and world view with an imitation of only your > own. > | It is very sad. > > I give up. Some things are not worth the effort and attendant grief > epically > when I should know from the get-go it's on a road to nowhere. > So what is your expectation? That you would change me into you? Or do you expect to have a discussion? -- LadySarah From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 10:10:50 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (LadySarah) Date: Tue Mar 1 10:15:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: God's Back with a Vengeance References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d00edj$unp$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Rick Carlton" wrote in message > news:cvucln$hs6$1@news.spamcop.net... >> Frog Prince wrote: >> > Robert Tilton -- Not that he stated that exact quote but his 'ministry' > is >> > built on that presumption and was until about time the TV exposé showed > the >> > dumpsters >> > (note the *s*) full of unopened (except to pull out the cash) pray >> > cards >> >> Tilton! LOL! >> >> On a lark, my sister once signed me up for his mailing list. >> >> In the postal mail, I got a "faith kit." >> >> A ketchup packet containing red wine vinegar, a 3"x3" piece of fishing >> net - and a coupon book. >> >> Each coupon had a dollar amount on it. >> >> I was supposed to send in the dollar amount for each coupon, and when >> there were no more coupons in the book, I would get my requested > "miracle." >> >> The aggregate of the coupons totalled about $500. It even had stickers >> and a game board for me to paste each coupon on as I sent in the money. >> >> 'Nuff said. > > You have to wonder why this is legal. It's basically taking advantage of > the > incredibly gullible. It is legal because a person can give their money to whom they want to give it. Tilton was prosecuted for false claims but was not convicted as far as I know. James Bakker, the TV evangelist, was convicted of not doing with the money what he claimed he would. As long as Tilton says I will live like a king if you send me your money, there is no law. Last time I heard Tilton, he as much as said that God wants him to be wealthy and their gift is a gift of faith. -- LadySarah From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 07:13:49 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Tue Mar 1 10:15:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Walmart to Sell Wine References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:d00har$tc$3@news.spamcop.net... > | There's a vineyard on practically every corner here in California. You > can't > | drive through anything remotely resembling countryside and not see vines. > So > | it's plentiful and cheap. It's grossly overpriced in the UK. > > Over priced or over taxed? Both, I reckon. From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 07:15:40 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Tue Mar 1 10:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: God's Back with a Vengeance References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:d00huc$1c3$2@news.spamcop.net... > > "Sylvesterthekat" < > > | > The aggregate of the coupons totaled about $500. It even had stickers > | > and a game board for me to paste each coupon on as I sent in the money. > | > > | > 'Nuff said. > | > | You have to wonder why this is legal. It's basically taking advantage of > the > | incredibly gullible. > > And that is somehow different from our recent election process? Well, nobody was being screwed for $500 in the election process. That they'll be screwed out of that money (along with the rest of us) by the incumbent is probably true but you could say it's an indirect effect. From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 07:19:36 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Tue Mar 1 10:20:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] interesting article Message-ID: http://www.postgazette.com/pg/05058/462446.stm It gets most interesting after the half way point, IMO. I hope this guy manages to get some things changed. From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 07:25:20 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Tue Mar 1 10:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: God's Back with a Vengeance References: Message-ID: "Rick Carlton" wrote in message news:d012t6$enh$1@news.spamcop.net... > Do take some time and read through godhatesfags.com - and > godhatessweden.com - where the WBC is thankful for the Tsunami because > it killed Swedes whose country allows gays and lesbians fully integrated > privileges in society - thus inviting God's harsh judgement. That's just disgusting. How can these people NOT see how evil they are? > > or the very recent decision by Catholics to continue "reaching > out" to Jews to help them overcome their wrong beliefs? That is incredibly arrogant. What a bunch of bigoted pigs. > And to see exactly why I am calling myself a Charlie Brown on this - > please check out this article from last October on Salon. I expect you > don't read Salon much, but this is less of an editorial piece - and more > of an experiential piece - about Ohio. > > Of course it's from before the election - which makes it all the more > spooky given the outcome of your state initiatives. > > http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/10/30/haters/index.html Well from what I could read (the first couple of paragraphs before being required to log in (why?) and then nothing happening and not wanting to go through some long winded process of allowing them to set cookies - see the article I posted about privacy!), I really don't ever want to go to Ohio! What a bunch of unpleasant, intolerant pricks they are! From johnl at spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 15:36:42 2005 From: johnl at spamcop.net (JohnL) Date: Tue Mar 1 10:40:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Walmart to Sell Wine References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in news:d020r9$87i$1@news.spamcop.net: > > "Frog Prince" wrote in message > news:d00har$tc$3@news.spamcop.net... >> Over priced or over taxed? > > Both, I reckon. > > Come up north and it's bad also. I remember back in the late 90's, in So.Cal, seeing a 12 pack of "Lucky Lager" beer going for $4.00. They just got that up here, and it's $8.00 a SIX pack. "Premium" beers (Molsons, Bud, etc) run close to $10/6 pack Cheapest bottle of wine here is over $8. (and we're probably one of the lower priced Provinces as there is no "Province" sales tax) From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 07:38:46 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Tue Mar 1 10:40:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Walmart to Sell Wine References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message news:slrnd28n08.h0v.i83vgwcn02@sdf.lonestar.org... > But I guess I can see how they would make money off of it. Really, it > is just basically grape juice that has been sitting around for a while. > You don't see Welches struggling to survive not charging $15 for a > bottle of grape juice. Just streamline the process and sell high volume > and you could probably make good money. Quite so. And they've shown that cheap wine doesn't have to taste like vinegar. From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 07:39:46 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Tue Mar 1 10:40:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: God's Back with a Vengeance References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:d01vov$6qn$1@news.spamcop.net... > I give up. Some things are not worth the effort and attendant grief epically > when I should know from the get-go it's on a road to nowhere. Hurrah. From rcarlton at spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 08:53:47 2005 From: rcarlton at spamcop.net (Rick Carlton) Date: Tue Mar 1 11:55:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: God's Back with a Vengeance In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: LadySarah wrote: > "Rick Carlton" wrote in message > news:d012t6$enh$1@news.spamcop.net... > >>LadySarah wrote: >> >>>You generalize that "many preachers" teach hate. Name them and give the >>>quotes. I don't believe you. Yes I have heard a very few who made it to >>>TV news because they were so outrageous. Some who have taught hate of >>>whites and probably some white supremacists say they are preachers. I >>>think I saw outrageous supposed "preachers" on Jerry Springer or Oprah a >>>long time ago. But I hope you don't buy into those kinds of claims. >>>Surely you are smarter than that. >> >>I'm gonna be Charlie Brown with the football one more time perhaps, but >>just in case.... >> >>Yes, Fred Phelps is a preacher in Topeka, Kansas. He and his church >>travel around the country preaching a very special brand of love. I get to >>see them personally every year when they protest in San Francisco during >>the Pride celebration. >> >>Do take some time and read through godhatesfags.com - and >>godhatessweden.com - where the WBC is thankful for the Tsunami because it >>killed Swedes whose country allows gays and lesbians fully integrated >>privileges in society - thus inviting God's harsh judgement. >> >>How different is that perspective - when you net it out - from the >>Christian vs. Muslim debate - ignoring the huge number of peaceful >>Muslims, or the very recent decision by Catholics to continue "reaching >>out" to Jews to help them overcome their wrong beliefs? >> >>I have to think that the Southern Baptist Convention - or whatever >>organization credentials the WBC - could do something about this - if they >>both wanted and chose to. Not shut them down, but certainly take away >>their implicit cloak of approval and funding source. >> >>But let's face it - intolerance is the name of today's winning game. >> >>And to see exactly why I am calling myself a Charlie Brown on this - >>please check out this article from last October on Salon. I expect you >>don't read Salon much, but this is less of an editorial piece - and more >>of an experiential piece - about Ohio. >> >>Of course it's from before the election - which makes it all the more >>spooky given the outcome of your state initiatives. >> >>http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/10/30/haters/index.html > > > I cannot open the link. It appears to be a browser hijack link. It changes > to > http://content.ultramercial.com/start.um/1=162http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/10/30/haters/index_np.html > Perhaps it isn't a browser hijack but it certainly is not a good link. > > I use to read Salon.com before it went to a for pay subscription. It is > just not worth the Internet hassle to try and read an article there. You can > copy and paste it hear for me to read. > > Ohio was solidly for President Bush no matter what you read in the leftist > papers. Get over it. Kerry lost big time here. > > Now to Phelps. On the opening page he does nothing but quote scripture. It > speaks for itself and is not hate. Inside his links are full of hate. I > can't imagine any fundamentalist Christian would like what that guy is > saying. God does not hate Swedan or Iraq or Muslims or homosexuals. God > loves the sinner the same as he loves the follower. But yes, there are > lists of sins in the Bible and people are sinners that live a life > practicing them. But that is not hate, that is love. I don't expect you to > understand that. > > If you want to know what God hates, it is in the Bible. It is spelled out > very clearly in Proverbs, old testament. "Proverbs 6:16-19 (IV) -- "These > six things doth the Lord hate; yea, seven are an abomination unto him; A > proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, A heart that > deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A > false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among > brethren." > The link isn't a browser hijack. If you don't have a paid Salon account, then thhey make you watch aan ad before reading an article - much like ABC, etc. From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 09:04:01 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Tue Mar 1 12:05:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Walmart to Sell Wine References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns960C5799F3628johnlspamcopnet@216.154.195.61... > Come up north and it's bad also. > > I remember back in the late 90's, in So.Cal, seeing a 12 pack of "Lucky > Lager" beer going for $4.00. > They just got that up here, and it's $8.00 a SIX pack. > "Premium" beers (Molsons, Bud, etc) run close to $10/6 pack > Cheapest bottle of wine here is over $8. > (and we're probably one of the lower priced Provinces as there is no > "Province" sales tax) You can get a six pack of San Miguel, Moosehead or Henninger in TJ's for 4.99. They're the cheapest. TJ's don't sell the 12 packs. Sometimes you can get a 12 pack in the supermarkets that'll work out cheaper than TJ's. I don't buy beer in Costco but it's probably about the same as TJ's except you'd have to buy at least 18-packs. I got a litre of Baileys in there yesterday for $20. Wine in Costco isn't cheap for some reason. From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 09:05:06 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Tue Mar 1 12:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: God's Back with a Vengeance References: Message-ID: "Rick Carlton" wrote in message news:d026mr$c7s$1@news.spamcop.net... > The link isn't a browser hijack. > > If you don't have a paid Salon account, then thhey make you watch aan ad > before reading an article - much like ABC, etc. Methinks she has spyware on her computer. From devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 07:41:33 2005 From: devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Tue Mar 1 14:05:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "DC" wrote in message news:d00vp3$cdj$1@news.spamcop.net... > Think Sean Penn will kick Chris Rock's a$$ ???? I think Sean Penn needs to get a sense of humor - what a prig..... From devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 07:41:33 2005 From: devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Tue Mar 1 14:05:17 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "DC" wrote in message news:d00vp3$cdj$1@news.spamcop.net... > Think Sean Penn will kick Chris Rock's a$$ ???? I think Sean Penn needs to get a sense of humor - what a prig..... From devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 07:41:33 2005 From: devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Tue Mar 1 14:05:20 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "DC" wrote in message news:d00vp3$cdj$1@news.spamcop.net... > Think Sean Penn will kick Chris Rock's a$$ ???? I think Sean Penn needs to get a sense of humor - what a prig..... From devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 07:41:33 2005 From: devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Tue Mar 1 14:05:22 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "DC" wrote in message news:d00vp3$cdj$1@news.spamcop.net... > Think Sean Penn will kick Chris Rock's a$$ ???? I think Sean Penn needs to get a sense of humor - what a prig..... From devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 07:41:33 2005 From: devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Tue Mar 1 14:05:24 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "DC" wrote in message news:d00vp3$cdj$1@news.spamcop.net... > Think Sean Penn will kick Chris Rock's a$$ ???? I think Sean Penn needs to get a sense of humor - what a prig..... From devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 07:41:33 2005 From: devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Tue Mar 1 14:05:25 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "DC" wrote in message news:d00vp3$cdj$1@news.spamcop.net... > Think Sean Penn will kick Chris Rock's a$$ ???? I think Sean Penn needs to get a sense of humor - what a prig..... From devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 07:41:34 2005 From: devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Tue Mar 1 14:05:26 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "DC" wrote in message news:d00vp3$cdj$1@news.spamcop.net... > Think Sean Penn will kick Chris Rock's a$$ ???? I think Sean Penn needs to get a sense of humor - what a prig..... From devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 07:41:34 2005 From: devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Tue Mar 1 14:05:27 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "DC" wrote in message news:d00vp3$cdj$1@news.spamcop.net... > Think Sean Penn will kick Chris Rock's a$$ ???? I think Sean Penn needs to get a sense of humor - what a prig..... From devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 07:41:34 2005 From: devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Tue Mar 1 14:05:29 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "DC" wrote in message news:d00vp3$cdj$1@news.spamcop.net... > Think Sean Penn will kick Chris Rock's a$$ ???? I think Sean Penn needs to get a sense of humor - what a prig..... From devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 07:41:34 2005 From: devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Tue Mar 1 14:05:30 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "DC" wrote in message news:d00vp3$cdj$1@news.spamcop.net... > Think Sean Penn will kick Chris Rock's a$$ ???? I think Sean Penn needs to get a sense of humor - what a prig..... From devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 07:41:34 2005 From: devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Tue Mar 1 14:05:31 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "DC" wrote in message news:d00vp3$cdj$1@news.spamcop.net... > Think Sean Penn will kick Chris Rock's a$$ ???? I think Sean Penn needs to get a sense of humor - what a prig..... From devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 07:41:34 2005 From: devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Tue Mar 1 14:05:32 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "DC" wrote in message news:d00vp3$cdj$1@news.spamcop.net... > Think Sean Penn will kick Chris Rock's a$$ ???? I think Sean Penn needs to get a sense of humor - what a prig..... From devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 07:41:35 2005 From: devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Tue Mar 1 14:10:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "DC" wrote in message news:d00vp3$cdj$1@news.spamcop.net... > Think Sean Penn will kick Chris Rock's a$$ ???? I think Sean Penn needs to get a sense of humor - what a prig..... From devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 07:41:35 2005 From: devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Tue Mar 1 14:10:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "DC" wrote in message news:d00vp3$cdj$1@news.spamcop.net... > Think Sean Penn will kick Chris Rock's a$$ ???? I think Sean Penn needs to get a sense of humor - what a prig..... From devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 07:41:35 2005 From: devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Tue Mar 1 14:10:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "DC" wrote in message news:d00vp3$cdj$1@news.spamcop.net... > Think Sean Penn will kick Chris Rock's a$$ ???? I think Sean Penn needs to get a sense of humor - what a prig..... From devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 07:41:35 2005 From: devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Tue Mar 1 14:10:16 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "DC" wrote in message news:d00vp3$cdj$1@news.spamcop.net... > Think Sean Penn will kick Chris Rock's a$$ ???? I think Sean Penn needs to get a sense of humor - what a prig..... From devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 07:41:36 2005 From: devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Tue Mar 1 14:10:17 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "DC" wrote in message news:d00vp3$cdj$1@news.spamcop.net... > Think Sean Penn will kick Chris Rock's a$$ ???? I think Sean Penn needs to get a sense of humor - what a prig..... From devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 07:41:36 2005 From: devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Tue Mar 1 14:10:18 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "DC" wrote in message news:d00vp3$cdj$1@news.spamcop.net... > Think Sean Penn will kick Chris Rock's a$$ ???? I think Sean Penn needs to get a sense of humor - what a prig..... From devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 07:41:36 2005 From: devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Tue Mar 1 14:10:19 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "DC" wrote in message news:d00vp3$cdj$1@news.spamcop.net... > Think Sean Penn will kick Chris Rock's a$$ ???? I think Sean Penn needs to get a sense of humor - what a prig..... From devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 07:41:36 2005 From: devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Tue Mar 1 14:10:20 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "DC" wrote in message news:d00vp3$cdj$1@news.spamcop.net... > Think Sean Penn will kick Chris Rock's a$$ ???? I think Sean Penn needs to get a sense of humor - what a prig..... From devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 07:41:36 2005 From: devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Tue Mar 1 14:10:21 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "DC" wrote in message news:d00vp3$cdj$1@news.spamcop.net... > Think Sean Penn will kick Chris Rock's a$$ ???? I think Sean Penn needs to get a sense of humor - what a prig..... From devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 07:41:37 2005 From: devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Tue Mar 1 14:10:22 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "DC" wrote in message news:d00vp3$cdj$1@news.spamcop.net... > Think Sean Penn will kick Chris Rock's a$$ ???? I think Sean Penn needs to get a sense of humor - what a prig..... From devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 07:41:37 2005 From: devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Tue Mar 1 14:10:24 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "DC" wrote in message news:d00vp3$cdj$1@news.spamcop.net... > Think Sean Penn will kick Chris Rock's a$$ ???? I think Sean Penn needs to get a sense of humor - what a prig..... From devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 07:41:37 2005 From: devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Tue Mar 1 14:10:25 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "DC" wrote in message news:d00vp3$cdj$1@news.spamcop.net... > Think Sean Penn will kick Chris Rock's a$$ ???? I think Sean Penn needs to get a sense of humor - what a prig..... From devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 07:41:37 2005 From: devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Tue Mar 1 14:10:26 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "DC" wrote in message news:d00vp3$cdj$1@news.spamcop.net... > Think Sean Penn will kick Chris Rock's a$$ ???? I think Sean Penn needs to get a sense of humor - what a prig..... From devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 07:41:37 2005 From: devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Tue Mar 1 14:10:27 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "DC" wrote in message news:d00vp3$cdj$1@news.spamcop.net... > Think Sean Penn will kick Chris Rock's a$$ ???? I think Sean Penn needs to get a sense of humor - what a prig..... From devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 07:41:37 2005 From: devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Tue Mar 1 14:10:29 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "DC" wrote in message news:d00vp3$cdj$1@news.spamcop.net... > Think Sean Penn will kick Chris Rock's a$$ ???? I think Sean Penn needs to get a sense of humor - what a prig..... From devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 07:41:37 2005 From: devnull. at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Tue Mar 1 14:10:30 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "DC" wrote in message news:d00vp3$cdj$1@news.spamcop.net... > Think Sean Penn will kick Chris Rock's a$$ ???? I think Sean Penn needs to get a sense of humor - what a prig..... From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 11:32:36 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Tue Mar 1 14:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Heidz" wrote in message news:d01nt0$d8$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "DC" wrote in message > news:d00vp3$cdj$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Think Sean Penn will kick Chris Rock's a$$ ???? > > I think Sean Penn needs to get a sense of humor - what a prig..... I was surprised he commented but then I also didn't find the joke funny. However I did like the bit about 'what if you worked at the Gap and your register was $70bn short' very amusing. From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 14:39:48 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Tue Mar 1 14:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d02g0g$l7h$1@news.spamcop.net... > > I was surprised he commented but then I also didn't find the joke funny. > However I did like the bit about 'what if you worked at the Gap and your > register was $70bn short' very amusing. > I thought it was amusing, the part I heard, which was 'why is he in every movie I've seen for the last four years, even if he's not starring if you read the credits, he's made the cupcakes or something' - it IS almost true, he's been very exposed, I don't think it was a putdown. Apparently Sean Penn is not known for his humor or his wit, and he was overly sensitive because they're shooting a movie together and have become great drinking buddies...... From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 14:55:00 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (LadySarah) Date: Tue Mar 1 14:55:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: God's Back with a Vengeance References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d027bu$d2p$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Rick Carlton" wrote in message > news:d026mr$c7s$1@news.spamcop.net... > > The link isn't a browser hijack. >> >> If you don't have a paid Salon account, then thhey make you watch aan ad >> before reading an article - much like ABC, etc. > > Methinks she has spyware on her computer. > No I don't have spyware on my computer. The link does not work. -- LadySarah From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 14:57:44 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (LadySarah) Date: Tue Mar 1 15:00:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: God's Back with a Vengeance References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d021gt$8pt$1@news.spamcop.net... > >> http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/10/30/haters/index.html > > Well from what I could read (the first couple of paragraphs before being > required to log in (why?) and then nothing happening and not wanting to go > through some long winded process of allowing them to set cookies - see the > article I posted about privacy!), I really don't ever want to go to Ohio! > What a bunch of unpleasant, intolerant pricks they are! > Salon made it a pain to try and read their articles. Guess they don't want anyone who doesn't pay. -- LadySarah From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 14:59:53 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Tue Mar 1 15:00:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: interesting article References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d02165$8k8$1@news.spamcop.net... > http://www.postgazette.com/pg/05058/462446.stm > > It gets most interesting after the half way point, IMO. I hope this guy > manages to get some things changed. I wonder how many times he's been audited by the IRS...... From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 12:01:42 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Tue Mar 1 15:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:d02gc9$lcl$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:d02g0g$l7h$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > I was surprised he commented but then I also didn't find the joke funny. > > However I did like the bit about 'what if you worked at the Gap and your > > register was $70bn short' very amusing. > > > I thought it was amusing, the part I heard, which was 'why is he in every movie I've > seen for the last four years, even if he's not starring if you read the credits, > he's made the cupcakes or something' - it IS almost true, he's been very exposed, I > don't think it was a putdown. Apparently Sean Penn is not known for his humor or his > wit, and he was overly sensitive because they're shooting a movie together and have > become great drinking buddies...... Are they? I didn't know that. Certainly Jude Law has been in a lot of movies lately, something like 6 last year though he was just a voice in some, or had a small bit part. I see James Gandolfini is in the film with Penn and Law too. And Anthony Hopkins! Should be good if the acting talent is anything to go by. From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 15:20:59 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Tue Mar 1 15:20:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d02hn2$mda$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Are they? I didn't know that. Certainly Jude Law has been in a lot of movies > lately, something like 6 last year though he was just a voice in some, or > had a small bit part. I see James Gandolfini is in the film with Penn and > Law too. And Anthony Hopkins! Should be good if the acting talent is > anything to go by. > Speaking of acting talent, how do you like House Doctor...LOL From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 15:42:34 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue Mar 1 15:50:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Finally: Someone in DC with a Lick o' Sense References: <1109684789.480662.94820@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: FCC rules "Saving Private Ryan" not indecent. http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/TV/02/28/media.privateryan.fcc.reut/index.html From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 16:31:52 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue Mar 1 16:40:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "David Dean" | I ordered SDSL from a reputable ISP, all was going quite well until | yesterday. Verizon blocks the installer at the CO and says that the | lines in my neighborhood cannot provide the service which I ordered. Why | didn't they tell them that when they scheduled the installation last | week? | I have another provider checking into a different type of service, | but it still makes me angry. Have a neighbor contact VZN and ask if VZN can provide DSL service. From jwjr at poSPAMSUCKSbox.com Tue Mar 1 18:03:01 2005 From: jwjr at poSPAMSUCKSbox.com (J. Weaver Jr.) Date: Tue Mar 1 18:05:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: =?iso-8859-1?q?Oscar=AE_Night?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: DC wrote: > Think Sean Penn will kick Chris Rock's a$$ ???? "Mr. Penn, to the lobby, your bus to detox is here. Mr. Penn, to the lobby..." -JW From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Tue Mar 1 19:47:42 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Tue Mar 1 19:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: In article , David Dean wrote: > I ordered SDSL from a reputable ISP, all was going quite well until > yesterday. Verizon blocks the installer at the CO and says that the > lines in my neighborhood cannot provide the service which I ordered. Why > didn't they tell them that when they scheduled the installation last > week? Verizon is doing the same thing with my DSL order. Are you dealing with Cavalier? I fired Verizon as my phone company years ago. -- D.F. Manno dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream will never die." From nospam at bisusa.com Tue Mar 1 18:59:16 2005 From: nospam at bisusa.com (JerryMouse) Date: Tue Mar 1 20:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: David Dean wrote: > I ordered SDSL from a reputable ISP, all was going quite well until > yesterday. Verizon blocks the installer at the CO and says that the > lines in my neighborhood cannot provide the service which I ordered. > Why didn't they tell them that when they scheduled the installation > last week? > I have another provider checking into a different type of service, > but it still makes me angry. Cable? Up to 3Mbit/sec. From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 20:11:14 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Tue Mar 1 20:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: APT Tax References: Message-ID: > > Those sort of men are not husbands in any connotation they are pimps. No, they are not exploitive. It is just a custom. Not one that I could adapt to, but it isn't really immoral. Miss Betsy From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 20:26:24 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Tue Mar 1 20:25:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: God's Back with a Vengeance References: Message-ID: "LadySarah" wrote in message news:d020ea$7rb$1@news.spamcop.net... > "Frog Prince" wrote in message > news:d01vov$6qn$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > "LadySarah" > > | > > > | > Broaden your horizons, Lady. > > | > > > | > > | I could say the same to you. You are very narrow in your perceptions of > > who > > | I am and what Christians are. You only have your experiences, and I only > > | have mine. That is supposed to be what discussions are all about, > > finding > > | out what others experience and know. However, it seems that you want to > > | displace my experience and world view with an imitation of only your > > own. > > | It is very sad. > > > > I give up. Some things are not worth the effort and attendant grief > > epically > > when I should know from the get-go it's on a road to nowhere. > > > > > So what is your expectation? That you would change me into you? Or do you > expect to have a discussion? I am a Catholic Christian. FP is not. Yet I can identify with him and his values (though occasionally we don't agree totally). He is 'compassionate' (to go back to the original article). Some Christians of all sects are compassionate; others twist scripture to suit their view of who is right and who is wrong. You said that you did not believe him. All I said was that his experience and mine as well as other reports were believable even if you, yourself, had not experienced them or heard about them in the media. I did not say that your experience was not credible. I merely said that it was not the whole picture. If you continue to deny reality, then you will have problems in convincing those who have experienced it. And it does not contribute to discussing solutions since 'your' solutions won't fit what others have experienced. Miss Betsy From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 20:20:23 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue Mar 1 20:25:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: APT Tax References: Message-ID: "Miss Betsy" wrote in message news:d033k2$3ea$1@news.spamcop.net... | | > | > Those sort of men are not husbands in any connotation they are | pimps. | | No, they are not exploitive. It is just a custom. Not one that I | could adapt to, but it isn't really immoral. Let me see if I understand the process Man take a wife. He and she have kids. He supports the family (and them only marginally) when he is in town but not if he's out of town or not staying at the house. Wife is responsible for paying the bills which includes earning the short fall for what the husband does not contribute. From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 20:22:49 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue Mar 1 20:25:16 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "David Dean" | > Cable? Up to 3Mbit/sec. | | Cable is about $50/month more than the solution being investigated at | the moment, but it is my next/last option unless I can find a friend | willing to let me host a box at their home. You can host it here (I'm in NC and have an apartment in N Dallas) From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 20:39:22 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Tue Mar 1 20:40:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: APT Tax References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:d034io$44c$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Miss Betsy" wrote in message > news:d033k2$3ea$1@news.spamcop.net... > | > | > > | > Those sort of men are not husbands in any connotation they are > | pimps. > | > | No, they are not exploitive. It is just a custom. Not one that I > | could adapt to, but it isn't really immoral. > > Let me see if I understand the process > > Man take a wife. > > He and she have kids. > > He supports the family (and them only marginally) when he is in town but not > if he's out of town or not staying at the house. > > Wife is responsible for paying the bills which includes earning the short > fall for what the husband does not contribute. I think (but I don't know for sure) that in those marriages that last, that he can 'give' presents of clothing or whatever and does, but just that he is not expected to. As I said, it seemed to me to be more a division of labor than exploitive, though I never asked questions because I couldn't figure out how to do so without being critical. Miss Betsy From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 21:33:37 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue Mar 1 21:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Diplomat Suspect in Internet Child Predator Case Flees US References: <7c2a21998cj9dq7fn6aalkmj45126pooma@4ax.com> Message-ID: http://www.wset.com/news/stories/0305/210492.html http://www.wset.com/search.hrb?s=ns&k=child To set the stage for this, the County of Bedford in Virginia has been operating a sting named Operation Blue Ridge Thunder with federal and state grants for several years now, with great success. A deputy sheriff goes online in teen chat rooms posing as a young girl or boy and chats with pedophiles. They have been very successful in arresting men trying to meet the young girl or boy they have been chatting with. In all cases, then men have come to Bedford from quite some distances to carry out their schemes. From pete+usenet at heypete.com Tue Mar 1 19:20:11 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Tue Mar 1 22:25:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Finally: Someone in DC with a Lick o' Sense References: <1109684789.480662.94820@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: In article , "Frog Prince" wrote: > FCC rules "Saving Private Ryan" not indecent. The fact that this was even being considered by the FCC annoys me greatly. Perhaps I'm confused, but I thought the FCC was originally founded to be a technical oversight organization that was responsible for partitioning airwaves in the US (and coordinating with similar organizations in other countries) so as to avoid interference and so forth? When did censorship become part of its job description? -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From pete+usenet at heypete.com Tue Mar 1 19:21:39 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Tue Mar 1 22:25:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: In article , David Dean wrote: > I have DSL service from Verizon, I just wanted a separate static IP > for a server. Wait a sec...you *already* have DSL from Verizon, but they say that your lines are unable to carry DSL service for a third-party ISP? What kind of fool do they take you for? -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From pete+usenet at heypete.com Tue Mar 1 19:49:13 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Tue Mar 1 22:50:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: interesting article References: Message-ID: In article , "Sylvesterthekat" wrote: > It gets most interesting after the half way point, IMO. I hope this guy > manages to get some things changed. *nods* Me too. Personally, I don't find the ID checks onerous -- so long as that's only what they are. The airlines, Amtrak, etc. are verifying that the person in front of them matches the person described on the identity card and matches the name on the ticket. Fair enough. I would hate to reserve a plane ticket, then have some guy walk in, claim to be me, and board the flight. It's all the categorization, recording, and surveillance that really irks me. It's one thing to match the name/face on the ID card with the name on the ticket. It's another thing to make a record of that and store that. As the article aptly puts it, merely identifying someone doesn't replace security. The 9/11 terrorists had valid IDs. Proper security procedures would, of course, still be necessary. But then, who's watching the watchers? I just don't understand why Gilmore's confined to the region -- he could drive (and the odds are he wouldn't be caught by the cops, assuming he drove safely) just about anywhere in the country. *shrugs* That said, Gilmore's a good guy, and definitely deserves support. -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Tue Mar 1 23:13:16 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Tue Mar 1 23:15:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Finally: Someone in DC with a Lick o' Sense References: <1109684789.480662.94820@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: In article , Pete Stephenson wrote: > In article , > "Frog Prince" wrote: > > > FCC rules "Saving Private Ryan" not indecent. > > The fact that this was even being considered by the FCC annoys me > greatly. They got complaints from the bluenoses who think the world will come to an end if someone says "fuck" on TV. Once the FCC gets a complaint, they have to act on it, even if only to dismiss it. > Perhaps I'm confused, but I thought the FCC was originally founded to be > a technical oversight organization that was responsible for partitioning > airwaves in the US (and coordinating with similar organizations in other > countries) so as to avoid interference and so forth? When did censorship > become part of its job description? When Congress decided that granting licenses for the use of the public airwaves gave it the right to regulate what was broadcast on those airwaves. -- D.F. Manno dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream will never die." From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Tue Mar 1 23:15:09 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Tue Mar 1 23:15:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oscar(R) Night References: Message-ID: In article , "J. Weaver Jr." wrote: > DC wrote: > > Think Sean Penn will kick Chris Rock's a$$ ???? > > "Mr. Penn, to the lobby, your bus to detox is here. Mr. Penn, to the > lobby..." -JW Nobody takes a _bus_ to detox. You take a limo from the airport. -- D.F. Manno dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream will never die." From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Tue Mar 1 23:28:35 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Tue Mar 1 23:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: interesting article References: Message-ID: In article , Pete Stephenson wrote: > Personally, I don't find the ID checks onerous -- so long as that's only > what they are. The airlines, Amtrak, etc. are verifying that the person > in front of them matches the person described on the identity card and > matches the name on the ticket. Fair enough. I would hate to reserve a > plane ticket, then have some guy walk in, claim to be me, and board the > flight. But if the ID checks are supposed to be for security purposes--and that's the claim--they're useless because they can be easily circumvented. The problem is Internet check-in, which has people printed out their boarding passes on their home computer so they can skip airline check-in. As Slate pointed out, at the first ID check (before you go through security), the pass is matched to the ID but not against the computer. At the second (at the boarding gate), the pass is checked against the computer but not the ID. All you need to do is print out the pass, then alter it (with Photoshop or whatever) to show a different name on a second pass. For more information, the Slate article is at -- D.F. Manno dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream will never die." From jwjr at poSPAMSUCKSbox.com Wed Mar 2 00:03:32 2005 From: jwjr at poSPAMSUCKSbox.com (J. Weaver Jr.) Date: Wed Mar 2 00:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oscar(R) Night In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: D.F. Manno wrote: > In article , > "J. Weaver Jr." wrote: > >> DC wrote: >> > Think Sean Penn will kick Chris Rock's a$$ ???? >> >> "Mr. Penn, to the lobby, your bus to detox is here. Mr. Penn, to the >> lobby..." -JW > > Nobody takes a _bus_ to detox. You take a limo from the airport. My understanding was that limos are hard to come by on Oscar Night. My _guess_ would be that Sean's no longer on the short list... -JW From rcarlton at spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 21:50:28 2005 From: rcarlton at spamcop.net (Rick Carlton) Date: Wed Mar 2 00:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: God's Back with a Vengeance In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: LadySarah wrote: > > No I don't have spyware on my computer. The link does not work. > I can't post the article publicly without violatingg copyright, and Mr Ashcroft's DMCA in particular. But - email my posting address with a valid reply address and I'll send it privately. Normally, I wouldn't waste the time - but I have this feeling that you'd be interested in how the article depicts the "typical Ohioan." Ohian? From David1 at suescornerweb.com Wed Mar 2 02:21:50 2005 From: David1 at suescornerweb.com (David 1) Date: Wed Mar 2 02:25:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Pete Stephenson wrote: > In article , > David Dean wrote: > > >> I have DSL service from Verizon, I just wanted a separate static IP >>for a server. > > > Wait a sec...you *already* have DSL from Verizon, but they say that your > lines are unable to carry DSL service for a third-party ISP? > > What kind of fool do they take you for? > YUP, I went through the same thing, with my ISP, Needless to say I dropped Verizon as my phone carrier for local & everything & went for the dreaded MCI ( what can I say they are a partner store in my business so I get PV everymonth on my bill ) The reason I was told they could keep Frognet.net out (GREAT ISP folks, they work with you the best they can) was because they didn't have some fancy named tower in the area that cost a whole bunch of money. I know Frognet will be here some day it's just a question of when until then I'll stay on the )&^^#*% dial up. -- David 1 bad addy spamtrap@suescornerweb.com From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 05:28:14 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Wed Mar 2 05:25:18 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: interesting article References: Message-ID: "Pete Stephenson" wrote in message news:pete+usenet-4341B1.19491301032005@news.cesmail.net... > In article , > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote: > > > It gets most interesting after the half way point, IMO. I hope this guy > > manages to get some things changed. > > *nods* Me too. > > Personally, I don't find the ID checks onerous -- so long as that's only > what they are. The airlines, Amtrak, etc. are verifying that the person > in front of them matches the person described on the identity card and > matches the name on the ticket. Fair enough. I would hate to reserve a > plane ticket, then have some guy walk in, claim to be me, and board the > flight. I can understand the reasons for ID checks, but I have always not liked having to produce an ID. > It's all the categorization, recording, and surveillance that really > irks me. It's one thing to match the name/face on the ID card with the > name on the ticket. It's another thing to make a record of that and > store that. The problem is not so much with the national security where, by law, only certain things could be recorded about a person to 'identify' you, but with the data collection by merchants who want to know all about your habits so they can sell you stuff. > > As the article aptly puts it, merely identifying someone doesn't replace > security. The 9/11 terrorists had valid IDs. Proper security procedures > would, of course, still be necessary. But then, who's watching the > watchers? IMHO, that's his point. > > I just don't understand why Gilmore's confined to the region -- he could > drive (and the odds are he wouldn't be caught by the cops, assuming he > drove safely) just about anywhere in the country. *shrugs* You must have missed the part about losing his drivers' license because of epilepsy. He can't drive safely. While I admire his tenacity, IMHO, it would not be a good idea for him to be able to change things by himself - just because he has the money to do so. That is somehow scary. Miss Betsy From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 06:00:06 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Wed Mar 2 06:00:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: God's Back with a Vengeance References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d021gt$8pt$1@news.spamcop.net... > > or the very recent decision by Catholics to continue "reaching > > out" to Jews to help them overcome their wrong beliefs? > > That is incredibly arrogant. What a bunch of bigoted pigs. There is another side to evangelism. When you have discovered something that you think is a great, you want to share it with others. I don't know what he is referring to, in particular, but ever since the Vatican II Council, the Catholic Church has made a special effort to 'reach' out to Jews - partly, IMHO, in atonement for allowing the atmosphere that led to the Holocaust, but in a large part because Jesus was a Jew and the Church is based on Jewish tradition - especially the part about the Jews being God's people. At one time in Church history, an unconverted Jew was 'evil', but at this point in Church history, an unconverted Jew is still special because he is also chosen by God. Naturally, the Church hopes to convert them, but, although things could have changed, that was just a by-product of the effort to show solidarity with the Jews as well as other Christian religions or indeed, 'compassionate' people. That was the liberals in the Church, and now there is a growing conservative movement so possibly the emphasis has changed to evangelism, rather than ecumenism. Nevertheless, it is not necessarily arrogant, any more than being friends with someone who is in very different circumstances than you are. See the comments FP and I are having about how some husbands and wives handle finances. He and I can't imagine how anyone could be happy without sharing the finances and if I had become better acquainted, it certainly would have come up at some point that I didn't agree and why I thought my way was better. If one only associates with people who are like you, then one is much poorer (i.e. Lady Sarah). But if you associate with those who are 'different' then when you speak to the differences, you run the danger of being thought that you are preaching or being arrogant or whatever you are thinking right now. Miss Betsy From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 06:53:24 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (LadySarah) Date: Wed Mar 2 06:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: God's Back with a Vengeance References: Message-ID: "Miss Betsy" wrote in message news:d034gg$43b$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "LadySarah" wrote in message > news:d020ea$7rb$1@news.spamcop.net... >> "Frog Prince" wrote in message >> news:d01vov$6qn$1@news.spamcop.net... >> > >> > "LadySarah" >> > | > >> > | > Broaden your horizons, Lady. >> > | > >> > | >> > | I could say the same to you. You are very narrow in your > perceptions of >> > who >> > | I am and what Christians are. You only have your experiences, > and I only >> > | have mine. That is supposed to be what discussions are all > about, >> > finding >> > | out what others experience and know. However, it seems that > you want to >> > | displace my experience and world view with an imitation of > only your >> > own. >> > | It is very sad. >> > >> > I give up. Some things are not worth the effort and attendant > grief >> > epically >> > when I should know from the get-go it's on a road to nowhere. >> > >> >> >> So what is your expectation? That you would change me into you? > Or do you >> expect to have a discussion? > > I am a Catholic Christian. FP is not. Yet I can identify with him > and his values (though occasionally we don't agree totally). He is > 'compassionate' (to go back to the original article). Some > Christians of all sects are compassionate; others twist scripture > to suit their view of who is right and who is wrong. > > You said that you did not believe him. All I said was that his > experience and mine as well as other reports were believable even > if you, yourself, had not experienced them or heard about them in > the media. I did not say that your experience was not credible. I > merely said that it was not the whole picture. > > If you continue to deny reality, then you will have problems in > convincing those who have experienced it. And it does not > contribute to discussing solutions since 'your' solutions won't fit > what others have experienced. > > Miss Betsy When and what reality have I denied? You pulled up an answer I posted to Frog Prince which had nothing to do with anything except him saying something derogitory against what have been saying about Phelps. I don't know Phelps, I don't agree with Phelps and Phelps is not representative of the vast majority of Christians who are totally fundamental in their Biblical belief. -- LadySarah From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 06:57:21 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (LadySarah) Date: Wed Mar 2 07:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: God's Back with a Vengeance References: Message-ID: "Miss Betsy" wrote in message news:d034gg$43b$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > I am a Catholic Christian. FP is not. Yet I can identify with him > and his values (though occasionally we don't agree totally). He is > 'compassionate' (to go back to the original article). Some > Christians of all sects are compassionate; others twist scripture > to suit their view of who is right and who is wrong. > I really feel sorry for you if you can identify with Phelps. He is a sick individual with hate in his heart. No way to sugar coat that. Show me his compassion. -- LadySarah From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 14:20:56 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Mar 2 14:20:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: David 1 wrote: The reason I was told > they could keep Frognet.net out (GREAT ISP folks, they work with you > the best they can) Do you live in MD? AFAIK frognet is based somewhere near Annapolis, MD. They have ads on the radio all the time here. From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 14:24:14 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Mar 2 14:25:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Diplomat Suspect in Internet Child Predator Case Flees US References: <7c2a21998cj9dq7fn6aalkmj45126pooma@4ax.com> Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > http://www.wset.com/news/stories/0305/210492.html > http://www.wset.com/search.hrb?s=ns&k=child > > To set the stage for this, the County of Bedford in Virginia has been > operating a sting named Operation Blue Ridge Thunder with federal and > state grants for several years now, with great success. > > A deputy sheriff goes online in teen chat rooms posing as a young girl > or boy and chats with pedophiles. They have been very successful in > arresting men trying to meet the young girl or boy they have been > chatting with. In all cases, then men have come to Bedford from quite > some distances to carry out their schemes. They do that here too, and several of those arrested have been aquitted because no crime was actually committed -- there was no actual child involved. The state is or did change/are changing part of the law they were charged with to make it a crime anyway. From pete+usenet at heypete.com Wed Mar 2 11:37:14 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Wed Mar 2 14:40:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: interesting article References: Message-ID: In article , David Dean wrote: > I think you misunderstand, it isn't that he doesn't have a driver's > license or ID, its that he refuses to show it on the grounds that the > law which mandates showing it is not a public record. No law should be > secret, especially when ignorance of the law is not a valid excuse. No, I completely understand. I was under the impression that he lost his driver's license due to having epilepsy. Prior to that, it was due to his ideological stance about not wanting to show ID. I also agree -- there's no valid reason that a law, enacted by Congress, and signed by the President (all of whom are public employees) should not be open to disclosure. Now, certain activities involving that law may be deemed secret as necessary (certain military/intelligence operations, for example), but the law itself should be public. There's no reason whatsoever, in my opinion, that the law that dictates that people must show ID to board an aircraft to be secret. If the law is going to require something, then the people must know what that law is, rather than simply taking the word of those enforcing it. While I agree that ID checking alone is no security at all, it is a valuable part of security-in-depth and does have its place in security arrangements at airports and so forth. I appreciate and support Gilmore's efforts for full disclosure of the actual text of the law. -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 13:36:39 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Wed Mar 2 16:40:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Diplomat Suspect in Internet Child Predator Case Flees US References: <7c2a21998cj9dq7fn6aalkmj45126pooma@4ax.com> Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d053mg$jm1$1@news.spamcop.net... > Frog Prince wrote: > > http://www.wset.com/news/stories/0305/210492.html > > http://www.wset.com/search.hrb?s=ns&k=child > > > > To set the stage for this, the County of Bedford in Virginia has been > > operating a sting named Operation Blue Ridge Thunder with federal and > > state grants for several years now, with great success. > > > > A deputy sheriff goes online in teen chat rooms posing as a young girl > > or boy and chats with pedophiles. They have been very successful in > > arresting men trying to meet the young girl or boy they have been > > chatting with. In all cases, then men have come to Bedford from quite > > some distances to carry out their schemes. > > They do that here too, and several of those arrested have been aquitted > because no crime was actually committed -- there was no actual child > involved. The state is or did change/are changing part of the law they were > charged with to make it a crime anyway. You'd think there'd be some sort of soliciting crime on the books. I guess there will be soon. Not quite sure why it wouldn't be considered entrapment though... however trapping these scumbags seems like a good idea to me. From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 13:38:34 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Wed Mar 2 16:40:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "David Dean" wrote in message news:ozchzhq02-1B6F1D.20152501032005@localhost... > In article , > "D.F. Manno" wrote: > > > Verizon is doing the same thing with my DSL order. Are you dealing with > > Cavalier? > > ETI was who I tried first, they were very nice, but didn't want to > fight Verizon over this single incident. The company that is trying now, > Megapath, has a couple of tacks to try, a little more information, and > are willing to push Verizon. If they fail, I will likely jump to cable, > dump Verizon and get Vonage. Aren't Verizon required by law to let you have options with DSL like they are with long distance phone service? It seems like they should be, if they aren't! From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 13:40:13 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Wed Mar 2 16:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:d02ipg$ncn$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:d02hn2$mda$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > Are they? I didn't know that. Certainly Jude Law has been in a lot of movies > > lately, something like 6 last year though he was just a voice in some, or > > had a small bit part. I see James Gandolfini is in the film with Penn and > > Law too. And Anthony Hopkins! Should be good if the acting talent is > > anything to go by. > > > Speaking of acting talent, how do you like House Doctor...LOL What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 13:48:05 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Wed Mar 2 16:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: interesting article References: Message-ID: "Pete Stephenson" wrote in message news:pete+usenet-4341B1.19491301032005@news.cesmail.net... > Personally, I don't find the ID checks onerous -- so long as that's only > what they are. The airlines, Amtrak, etc. are verifying that the person > in front of them matches the person described on the identity card and > matches the name on the ticket. Fair enough. I would hate to reserve a > plane ticket, then have some guy walk in, claim to be me, and board the > flight. I don't find the checks bothersome either, but I am bothered that they're tracking where I'm going. Flights from other countries send their passenger manifests ahead of arrival and sometimes aren't even allowed to take off until someone 'undesirable' is removed. No doubt most of the time the person in question is utterly innocent of any wrongdoing, they just happen to have the same or similar name to one on a list. Why that is supposed to achieve anything I don't know - lists of names are a preposterous way of identifying terrorists since they're hardly likely to use their own names if it's remotely possible those names have been compromised. > It's all the categorization, recording, and surveillance that really > irks me. It's one thing to match the name/face on the ID card with the > name on the ticket. It's another thing to make a record of that and > store that. Indeed. And it's absolutely horrendous that nobody can actually read a copy of the law to ensure that it exists and is being properly enforced in the first place! > I just don't understand why Gilmore's confined to the region -- he could > drive (and the odds are he wouldn't be caught by the cops, assuming he > drove safely) just about anywhere in the country. *shrugs* Well the article did state that since he became epileptic he can no longer drive and that's why he has no state ID in the first place. So he'd have to hire a driver I suppose. If he wanted to go to Washington I guess he could rent a private plane (or do you have to produce ID to get onboard one of those too?) From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 13:49:56 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Wed Mar 2 16:55:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "David 1" wrote in message news:d03pi7$joo$1@news.spamcop.net... > YUP, I went through the same thing, with my ISP, Needless to say I > dropped Verizon as my phone carrier for local & everything & went for > the dreaded MCI ( what can I say they are a partner store in my business > so I get PV everymonth on my bill ) The reason I was told they could > keep Frognet.net out (GREAT ISP folks, they work with you the best they > can) was because they didn't have some fancy named tower in the area > that cost a whole bunch of money. I know Frognet will be here some day > it's just a question of when until then I'll stay on the )&^^#*% dial up. You had a choice of phone provider? We don't have a choice, it's Verizon around here. It was SBC where I lived recently. I can change long distance carrier but that's about it. From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 13:52:55 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Wed Mar 2 16:55:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: interesting article References: Message-ID: "D.F. Manno" wrote in message news:dfm2a3l0t2-754C3F.23283501032005@news.cesmail.net... > But if the ID checks are supposed to be for security purposes--and > that's the claim--they're useless because they can be easily > circumvented. The problem is Internet check-in, which has people printed > out their boarding passes on their home computer so they can skip > airline check-in. As Slate pointed out, at the first ID check (before > you go through security), the pass is matched to the ID but not against > the computer. At the second (at the boarding gate), the pass is checked > against the computer but not the ID. All you need to do is print out the > pass, then alter it (with Photoshop or whatever) to show a different > name on a second pass. > > For more information, the Slate article is at > > In my experience that's not how it worked. You show up to the automated check in with your home-printed pass which you scan and that then spits out a boarding pass which has the name printed on it. Alternatively you just put in the credit card which you used to pay for the ticket and it prints out the pass. You can't put another name on the boarding pass. Maybe some airlines work it differently but of the two where I've checked in that way, that's how it worked. From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 13:54:56 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Wed Mar 2 16:55:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: interesting article References: Message-ID: "Miss Betsy" wrote in message news:d0448g$rq1$1@news.spamcop.net... > The problem is not so much with the national security where, by > law, only certain things could be recorded about a person to > 'identify' you, but with the data collection by merchants who want > to know all about your habits so they can sell you stuff. The merchants are barely a nuisance on the radar. What's far more worrisome is that Big Brother is watching where you go and what you do and how you get there etc. From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 13:58:21 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Wed Mar 2 17:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: interesting article References: Message-ID: "David Dean" wrote in message news:ozchzhq02-24A769.09313402032005@localhost... > I think you misunderstand, it isn't that he doesn't have a driver's > license or ID, its that he refuses to show it on the grounds that the > law which mandates showing it is not a public record. No law should be > secret, especially when ignorance of the law is not a valid excuse. Actually he doesn't have one because he lost it due to epilepsy and he never bothered to get a replacement ID. But he's absolutely right about the law and I hope he has some success in at the very least drawing attention to the fact so that something is set in motion to change the situation. From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 14:01:20 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Wed Mar 2 17:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "David Dean" wrote in message news:ozchzhq02-2DD0A9.16580802032005@localhost... > In article , > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote: > > > Aren't Verizon required by law to let you have options with DSL like they > > are with long distance phone service? It seems like they should be, if they > > aren't! > > Well, I could probably complain to the VA Attorney General's office, > but he is too busy running for governor to pay any attention to my > complaint. > My suspicion is that Verizon is rolling out their new fiber optic > service in a couple of months and don't want me locked into a contract > with someone else. Of course they fail to realize that I want to keep my > personal connection separate from my server connection. Maybe bringing it to the attention of your local news stations might be a better way of drawing attention to it. If they don't bite well at least you tried. And write a letter to the AG as well, saying that you're copying the news agencies in the correspondence so that they'll know he's doing nothing about enforcing the law. They may be interested in that, as there's an election in the offing. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:45 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 18:35:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:57:50 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Mar 2 18:55:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Diplomat Suspect in Internet Child Predator Case Flees US References: <7c2a21998cj9dq7fn6aalkmj45126pooma@4ax.com> Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > You'd think there'd be some sort of soliciting crime on the books. I > guess there will be soon. Not quite sure why it wouldn't be > considered entrapment though... however trapping these scumbags seems > like a good idea to me. That's exactly the strategy they used to get aquitted. I have mixed thoughts about the whole thing.....on one hand, yeah, I want these predators off of the streets, but on the other hand (devil's advocate view), I can see their point. No crime was actually committed. The intent to commit crime was there, but it's akin to prosecuting "thought crimes". Tough thing to deal with if you rigidly follow the Bill of Rights. From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:58:40 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:00:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: Charles wrote: Who was that masked man?!? From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Wed Mar 2 23:46:43 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:00:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: interesting article References: Message-ID: "David Dean" wrote in message news:ozchzhq02-24A769.09313402032005@localhost... > In article , > Pete Stephenson wrote: > >> It's all the categorization, recording, and surveillance that really >> irks me. It's one thing to match the name/face on the ID card with the >> name on the ticket. It's another thing to make a record of that and >> store that. > >> I just don't understand why Gilmore's confined to the region -- he could >> drive (and the odds are he wouldn't be caught by the cops, assuming he >> drove safely) just about anywhere in the country. *shrugs* > > I think you misunderstand, it isn't that he doesn't have a driver's > license or ID, its that he refuses to show it on the grounds that the > law which mandates showing it is not a public record. No law should be > secret, especially when ignorance of the law is not a valid excuse. > So don't fly if it's that much of a problem. AFAIK all airports/airlines (worldwide) now require photo ID before they'll allow you through. IMHO that's a good thing (tm). From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 19:01:49 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:05:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d05jp1$s6i$1@news.spamcop.net... > Charles wrote: > > Who was that masked man?!? He did *not* write that..... From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 19:16:21 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:20:26 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: interesting article References: Message-ID: "David Dean" wrote in message news:ozchzhq02-C87D98.17182602032005@localhost... > The process of > declassifying documents taking decades is ridiculous. One of my friends was trying to get the results of some vaccine adverse reactions for dog vaccines, the data is collected but not released to the public, and in order to get that information (that would be extremely useful to anyone wanting to know if something could hurt their animal), she's has to use the Freedom of Information Act. Pathetic, isn't it? Wonder who they're covering for? From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:45 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:20:33 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:45 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:20:37 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:45 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:20:39 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:45 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:25:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:45 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:25:18 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:45 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:25:24 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:45 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:25:27 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:45 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:25:29 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:45 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:25:32 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:45 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:25:34 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:42 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:25:37 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:42 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:25:39 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:42 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:25:42 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:42 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:25:44 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:42 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:25:47 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:42 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:25:49 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:42 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:25:52 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:43 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:25:54 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:43 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:25:57 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:43 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:25:59 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:43 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:26:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:43 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:26:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:43 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:26:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:43 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:26:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:44 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:26:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:44 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:26:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:46 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:26:24 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:46 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:26:31 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:46 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:26:38 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:41 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:26:46 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:44 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:26:49 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:44 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:26:51 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:44 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:26:54 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:46 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:26:57 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:46 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:26:59 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:46 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:27:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:41 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:27:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:41 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:27:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:41 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:27:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:41 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:27:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:41 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:27:17 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:41 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:27:20 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:41 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:27:22 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:40 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:27:25 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:39 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:27:28 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:39 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:27:32 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:39 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:27:35 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:39 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:27:38 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:38 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:27:41 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:38 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:27:44 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:38 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:27:47 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:38 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:27:50 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 19:21:55 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:27:53 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns960DC312DE714TheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > > I did not write that! Sheesh! Or, are you saying that my new connection > is as bad as the old one? Hmm. Moment! > No, it appears to be working now. Well, huh. You're loud and clear - as usual. So how's things? From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:38 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:27:56 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:37 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:27:59 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:37 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:28:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:37 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:28:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:37 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:28:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:37 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:28:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:36 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:28:16 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:36 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:30:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:36 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:30:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:36 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:30:17 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:36 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:30:21 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:36 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:30:25 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:35 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:30:28 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:35 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:30:32 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:35 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:30:35 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:29:35 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:30:38 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she could be. From nospam at bisusa.com Wed Mar 2 18:40:13 2005 From: nospam at bisusa.com (JerryMouse) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:45:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Diplomat Suspect in Internet Child Predator Case Flees US References: <7c2a21998cj9dq7fn6aalkmj45126pooma@4ax.com> Message-ID: indigo wrote: > Sylvesterthekat wrote: >> You'd think there'd be some sort of soliciting crime on the books. I >> guess there will be soon. Not quite sure why it wouldn't be >> considered entrapment though... however trapping these scumbags seems >> like a good idea to me. > > That's exactly the strategy they used to get aquitted. I have mixed > thoughts about the whole thing.....on one hand, yeah, I want these > predators off of the streets, but on the other hand (devil's advocate > view), I can see their point. No crime was actually committed. The > intent to commit crime was there, but it's akin to prosecuting > "thought crimes". Tough thing to deal with if you rigidly follow the > Bill of Rights. Could be reconstructed as a crime of "status." In a crime of status, you commit an offense because of who you are, not what you do. For example, it used to be an offense to be a "vagrant," or prostitute, or drug addict or black after dark. Most crimes of "status" have been struck down, but there still ways to get someone incarcerated because of who he is. Carrier of an infectious disease is one. Unlawful enemy combatant is another. From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 16:49:30 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:50:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Diplomat Suspect in Internet Child Predator Case Flees US References: <7c2a21998cj9dq7fn6aalkmj45126pooma@4ax.com> Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d05jne$s4u$1@news.spamcop.net... > That's exactly the strategy they used to get aquitted. I have mixed thoughts > about the whole thing.....on one hand, yeah, I want these predators off of > the streets, but on the other hand (devil's advocate view), I can see their > point. No crime was actually committed. The intent to commit crime was > there, but it's akin to prosecuting "thought crimes". Tough thing to deal > with if you rigidly follow the Bill of Rights. Yeah, well they'll have to define that particular law a bit more loosely and make it a crime to talk (inappropriate) sexual matters with children/individuals you take to be children or something. I don't like the idea of prosecuting for thought crimes either... I've seen what happened to Tom Cruise! From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 16:51:02 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:55:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "Heidz" wrote in message news:d05lfp$ta8$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message > news:Xns960DC312DE714TheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > > > > I did not write that! Sheesh! Or, are you saying that my new connection > > is as bad as the old one? Hmm. Moment! > > No, it appears to be working now. Well, huh. > > You're loud and clear - as usual. So how's things? I don't see the post to which Indi supposedly replied. Wonder why.... hmmm (I do however see a buttload 'from' you, I guess someone wore his dick out from too much self-abuse and decided to swing by .social). From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 19:51:54 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:55:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05n1n$v0r$1@news.spamcop.net... > > I don't see the post to which Indi supposedly replied. Wonder why.... hmmm > (I do however see a buttload 'from' you, I guess someone wore his dick out > from too much self-abuse and decided to swing by .social). > That NewsProxy is a wunnerful thing, you should get it going on your end. You have to wonder what wankerboy is getting out of it when no one can see him anymore. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 19:52:36 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 19:55:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns960DC9F024CA3TheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > > No, you're supposed to say, "How's Trix?" (or something like that) But > things are pretty close to how they've always been - only different. Who's Trix? Is there another rug rat I don't know about? And what's different? Job? House? Lottery? From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 19:54:49 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 20:00:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns960DCA9E02BDDTheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > > Um. You're not talkin' 'bout me, I hope :) But as for not seeing posts... > Yeah, it's strange, huh? I don't see any posts by JerryMouse, for example, > or cancels of said posts but I see all kinds of folks replying to him. > Verra verra strange indeed... Some people still feel the need to respond to the Vile Piece of Shit Troll as well..... From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 20:02:17 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Wed Mar 2 20:00:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: God's Back with a Vengeance References: Message-ID: You are very narrow in your perceptions of who I am and what Christians are. You only have your experiences, and I only have mine. That is supposed to be what discussions are all about, finding out what others experience and know. However, it seems that you want to displace my experience and world view with an imitation of only your own. It is very sad. This was the post that I was answering. I know what a Christian is because I am one. I know what other Christians say is their belief because I associate with more Christians than just Catholics or just ones that agree with me. I have never denied that you are compassionate loving Christian who is totally unbigoted or said that I didn't believe you that Christians can be loving, etc. I merely said that there are others who say they are Christians who act and say very different things. It is when you get like this that I vow I won't bother to try to discuss anything with you again. Miss Betsy From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 16:58:55 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Wed Mar 2 20:00:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Heidz" wrote in message news:d05ibi$rcd$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:d05brv$o39$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > What's that? oh you mean the BBC show? is there acting on there? Haven't > > seen the poodles one yet, unfortunately. > > > The acting is mostly on the part of Ann Maurice, who tries very had not to > say 'what a disgusting dump, you're trying to SELL this?" They say she's > "brash", like all Americans (ha), I don't think she's half as bad as she > could be. Ah I see. I haven't seen any of the REALLY bad ones yet I guess. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 19:58:59 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 20:05:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns960DCAE085737TheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > > Well, actually, the new stuff that they've done on the server works pretty > well - it's eating up most of s/h/it's posts. Sure, right there a few got > through, but they were easy to take care of (with an appropriate news > reader and bla bla). Wasn't aware that anything had been done - but I don't care, I can't see his spew anymore so he's just going to have to go back to playing with himself. Why have I not tried Xnews, or was that the one with the scoring that I couldn't figure out? From nospam at bisusa.com Wed Mar 2 19:01:39 2005 From: nospam at bisusa.com (JerryMouse) Date: Wed Mar 2 20:05:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: interesting article References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "Miss Betsy" wrote in message > news:d0448g$rq1$1@news.spamcop.net... >> The problem is not so much with the national security where, by >> law, only certain things could be recorded about a person to >> 'identify' you, but with the data collection by merchants who want >> to know all about your habits so they can sell you stuff. > > The merchants are barely a nuisance on the radar. What's far more > worrisome is that Big Brother is watching where you go and what you > do and how you get there etc. I. Observation the first: As I understand the "law," it simply mandates that airlines adequately identify their passengers or, in the case of being unable to identify their passenger, that extraordinary security screening take place. In other words, the onus of the law is on the airlines, not the passenger. The consequence of this is that it is the AIRLINE who is declining to transport anonymous people, not the government. As a private enterprise, the airline can certainly refuse to carry anybody for any reason. Or, in the case of Southwest and very fat people, make them buy two tickets. II. Observation the second: When the NICS ("Insta-Check") was put in place to veryify that a potential gun-buyer was righteous, the implementing legislation mandated no records would be retained - that this exercise was just a "check-and-go/no-go." Under Janet Reno's administration, the records of who was buying guns were retained up to 90 days. When Ashcroft became AG, he said the law's the law and ordered that any such records generated via the NICS process be purged within 24 hours. When Homeland Security wanted copies so they could investigate potential terroristic activity, Ashcroft said no, you can't have these records, no matter how worthy your need. You'll have to get Congress to change the law. So, it seems to me, appropriate legislation to verify identity with no retention coupled with Republican oversight would make the whole issue moot. III. Observation the third: I recall a story about a woman whose purse was nicked in New York. Her husband was carrying the tickets, but security wouldn't let her travel without her very own, personal, picture ID. She and her husband got in a cab and went to one of those "IDs Made in Two Minutes" places and got a replica driver's license from British Honduras, or Patagonia, or the New Hebridies, or Guam, or somesuch. Made her flight and it only cost $20.00. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 20:00:25 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 20:05:18 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05ngf$va6$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Ah I see. I haven't seen any of the REALLY bad ones yet I guess. > The one with the cat who was using the toilet and missing was a real piece of work....not quite sure how one teaches a cat to pee in the toilet, but the obviously failed along the way... From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 20:01:55 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 20:05:23 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns960DCB93C9686TheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > > Surely that can't be the same person. But, hey, whatever. It still bugs > me, on a computer level, not to see the posts or the cancels but to see so > many replies... It's like it's not binary. Whoa. I believe canceling is a thing of the past and shall remain that way, so you're not missing much! From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 17:05:26 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Wed Mar 2 20:10:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: interesting article References: Message-ID: "Porpoise" wrote in message news:d05jur$s7j$1@news.spamcop.net... > > So don't fly if it's that much of a problem. AFAIK all airports/airlines > (worldwide) now require photo ID before they'll allow you through. IMHO > that's a good thing (tm). Again, that's not the point this guy is trying to make. He'll show his ID when someone shows him the law which supposedly exists that mandates that he should show his ID. Why should you obey a law if you can't actually see the content of that law? If Tony Blair said that there was a law requiring you to give your name, address and date of birth to anyone seemingly legitimate who asks for it, would you just blindly hand it over without questioning it? From johnl at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 01:06:43 2005 From: johnl at spamcop.net (JohnL) Date: Wed Mar 2 20:10:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "Heidz" wrote in news:d05n64$v5s$1 @news.spamcop.net: > That NewsProxy is a wunnerful thing, you should get it going on your end. Hey, XNews works as good! :) I seen a fairly large number for .social , but when it loaded, just a few were showing, and none from the idjit, poor kid, he's really being left out now. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 20:06:30 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 20:10:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns960DCB5675274TheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > > Um. Trix are for kids? I dunno - it's just the idiom, dude. Job is the > same (awesome prospects, but have to work on those, eh? The nature > conservancy is hiring, for example...). THAT would be cool - what exactly are they hiring for? House is new, I guess, but the old > one _still_ isn't sold (gack!). Ain't wun me no stinkingk lotto yet. I'se > got to try me that one of these days, I 'spec'. > Do you know why it hasn't sold? You should do a House Doctor thing. Film people looking at the house and listen to their comments - that'll give you some hints, fresh paint does wonders, have you done that? http://www.bbcamerica.com/genre/home_living/house_doctor/house_doctor_about.jsp From johnl at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 01:09:00 2005 From: johnl at spamcop.net (JohnL) Date: Wed Mar 2 20:10:17 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Clock police! References: Message-ID: Charles <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in news:Xns960DCC45C6BDFTheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61: > Dude, you're off by an hour and some ... and then some. :) From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 17:09:57 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Wed Mar 2 20:10:20 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: interesting article References: Message-ID: "David Dean" wrote in message news:ozchzhq02-C87D98.17182602032005@localhost... > In article , > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote: > > > But he's absolutely right about the law and I hope he has some success in at > > the very least drawing attention to the fact so that something is set in > > motion to change the situation. > > Here I go showing my liberal side again, but I see very few reasons > for a government to keep anything secret. I can understand not tipping > your hand during an investigation or while engaged in battle, but that > information can and should become part of the public record after > conviction or completion of the battle. I understand that it is > impractical to allow any citizen who wants to attend every deliberation > of government, but why not publish transcripts/minutes? The process of > declassifying documents taking decades is ridiculous. I can see some reasons for some things to be kept secret (like for instance anything that could be useful to an enemy state such as how the US nuclear weapons systems work, how to build WMDs and so on). But not laws. And I totally agree that it shouldn't take decades for documents to be declassified, especially such documents as what a particular government did, who said/wrote what to whom and things of that ilk. From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 17:11:30 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Wed Mar 2 20:15:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: interesting article References: Message-ID: "Heidz" wrote in message news:d05l36$sv5$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "David Dean" wrote in message > news:ozchzhq02-C87D98.17182602032005@localhost... > > > The process of > > declassifying documents taking decades is ridiculous. > > One of my friends was trying to get the results of some vaccine adverse > reactions for dog vaccines, the data is collected but not released to the > public, and in order to get that information (that would be extremely useful > to anyone wanting to know if something could hurt their animal), she's has > to use the Freedom of Information Act. Pathetic, isn't it? Wonder who > they're covering for? Big pharmaceuticals companies, no doubt. Especially if there's a human version of the vaccine. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 20:28:14 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 20:30:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Clock police! References: Message-ID: oops sorry, I emailed instead of grouped..... "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns960DCC45C6BDFTheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > Dude, you're off by an hour and some. Whoa. > Not me, my previous post shows at 8 pm when I posted it, and my clock is right now, and yours, on the other hand shows up an hour late..... or were you not talking to me? From johnl at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 01:33:07 2005 From: johnl at spamcop.net (JohnL) Date: Wed Mar 2 20:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Clock police! References: Message-ID: "Heidz" wrote in news:d05pab$r7$1@news.spamcop.net: > Not me, my previous post shows at 8 pm when I posted it, and my clock > is right now, and yours, on the other hand shows up an hour late..... > or were you not talking to me? I see your post here coming in at 7:28 MST, which would be 9:28 your time. Seems advanced to me. :) From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 20:35:38 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 20:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Clock police! References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns960DBCB95AE6Cjohnlspamcopnet@216.154.195.61... > > I see your post here coming in at 7:28 MST, which would be 9:28 your time. > Seems advanced to me. :) How can that be? My clock says 8:34, which is two minutes slower than my cable box, so what's up with that? How can it be me? From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 20:38:10 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 20:40:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Clock police! References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns960DBCB95AE6Cjohnlspamcopnet@216.154.195.61... > > I see your post here coming in at 7:28 MST, which would be 9:28 your time. > Seems advanced to me. :) Wait - is this better? My clock was right, but my timezone was off by an hour - being that I to reinstall Windows last weekend, I'm not surprised it's effed up! From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 21:02:49 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (LadySarah) Date: Wed Mar 2 21:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: God's Back with a Vengeance References: Message-ID: "Miss Betsy" wrote in message news:d05nf9$v9v$1@news.spamcop.net... > You are very narrow in your perceptions of who > I am and what Christians are. You only have your experiences, and I > only > have mine. That is supposed to be what discussions are all about, > finding > out what others experience and know. However, it seems that you > want to > displace my experience and world view with an imitation of only > your own. > It is very sad. > > > This was the post that I was answering. I know what a Christian is > because I am one. I know what other Christians say is their belief > because I associate with more Christians than just Catholics or > just ones that agree with me. > > I have never denied that you are compassionate loving Christian who > is totally unbigoted or said that I didn't believe you that > Christians can be loving, etc. I merely said that there are others > who say they are Christians who act and say very different things. > > It is when you get like this that I vow I won't bother to try to > discuss anything with you again. > > Miss Betsy You did not answer my question. Do you remember what you said. If not I will quote it here. "If you continue to deny reality, then you will have problems in convincing those who have experienced it. And it does not contribute to discussing solutions since 'your' solutions won't fit what others have experienced." Then I asked, "When and what reality have I denied? ..." You have chosen to not answer that question but instead hurl another accusation. Instead you said, "It is when you get like this that I vow I won't bother to try to discuss anything with you again." -- LadySarah From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 21:03:25 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 21:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Clock police! References: Message-ID: "David Dean" wrote in message news:ozchzhq02-E1E74B.20441002032005@localhost... > In article , > "Heidz" wrote: > > > How can that be? My clock says 8:34, which is two minutes slower than my > > cable box, so what's up with that? How can it be me? > > is the time zone correct? It wasn't and I have no idea why..... =:E From johnl at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 02:06:03 2005 From: johnl at spamcop.net (JohnL) Date: Wed Mar 2 21:10:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Clock police! References: Message-ID: "Heidz" wrote in news:d05pt1$16l$1 @news.spamcop.net: > Wait - is this better? My clock was right, but my timezone was off by an > hour - being that I to reinstall Windows last weekend, I'm not surprised > it's effed up! Ok, who here wants to volunteer to give H a spanking?? From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 21:04:32 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 21:10:16 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "David Dean" wrote in message news:ozchzhq02-79231C.20411602032005@localhost... > In article , > They're doing something? I thought that JT didn't have the > time/energy to do anything. I think p'raps Charles is making assumptions! From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 21:25:30 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 21:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Clock police! References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns960DC24E8A4CDjohnlspamcopnet@216.154.195.61... > > Ok, who here wants to volunteer to give H a spanking?? > Why? What did I do? *sniffle* How was I supposed to know my stupid time zone changed? Stupid Windows. Bad bad BAD computer.... From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:38:25 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Wed Mar 2 21:40:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "Heidz" wrote in message news:d05n64$v5s$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:d05n1n$v0r$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > I don't see the post to which Indi supposedly replied. Wonder why.... hmmm > > (I do however see a buttload 'from' you, I guess someone wore his dick out > > from too much self-abuse and decided to swing by .social). > > > That NewsProxy is a wunnerful thing, you should get it going on your end. > You have to wonder what wankerboy is getting out of it when no one can see > him anymore. Same as he always got out of it. Zip. Nada. Zilch. What I need is a decent newsreader. Anyone got any suggestions? ie one that'll filter by posting host etc. From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:39:09 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Wed Mar 2 21:40:25 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Clock police! References: Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns960DCC45C6BDFTheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > Dude, you're off by an hour and some. Whoa. Who are you talking to? From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:40:18 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Wed Mar 2 21:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns960DCA9E02BDDTheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > No way it was me! It was "Sylvesterthekat" ! > > > I don't see the post to which Indi supposedly replied. Wonder why.... > > hmmm (I do however see a buttload 'from' you, I guess someone wore his > > dick out from too much self-abuse and decided to swing by .social). > > Um. You're not talkin' 'bout me, I hope :) But as for not seeing posts... > Yeah, it's strange, huh? I don't see any posts by JerryMouse, for example, > or cancels of said posts but I see all kinds of folks replying to him. > Verra verra strange indeed... That one is easily explained. And no, I wasn't referring to you above. From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 18:41:07 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Wed Mar 2 21:45:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns960DCAE085737TheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > No way it was me! It was "Heidz" ! > > > That NewsProxy is a wunnerful thing, you should get it going on your > > end. You have to wonder what wankerboy is getting out of it when no > > one can see him anymore. > > Well, actually, the new stuff that they've done on the server works pretty > well - it's eating up most of s/h/it's posts. Sure, right there a few got > through, but they were easy to take care of (with an appropriate news > reader and bla bla). What newsreader do you consider appropriate (and if it's Mac only of course fuhgeddaboutit!)? From johnl at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 02:44:58 2005 From: johnl at spamcop.net (JohnL) Date: Wed Mar 2 21:45:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Clock police! References: Message-ID: "Heidz" wrote in news:d05so7$2nd$1 @news.spamcop.net: > Bad bad BAD computer.... Yeah right, blame the computer. :P From johnl at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 02:45:43 2005 From: johnl at spamcop.net (JohnL) Date: Wed Mar 2 21:50:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in news:d05tb1$2vu$1 @news.spamcop.net: > What I need is a decent newsreader. Anyone got any suggestions? ie one > that'll filter by posting host etc. Xnews..... Did I say I love Xnews? From devnull at spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 21:53:56 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Wed Mar 2 22:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Diplomat Suspect in Internet Child Predator Case Flees US References: <7c2a21998cj9dq7fn6aalkmj45126pooma@4ax.com> Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d053mg$jm1$1@news.spamcop.net... | Frog Prince wrote: | > http://www.wset.com/news/stories/0305/210492.html | > http://www.wset.com/search.hrb?s=ns&k=child | > | > To set the stage for this, the County of Bedford in Virginia has been | > operating a sting named Operation Blue Ridge Thunder with federal and | > state grants for several years now, with great success. | > | > A deputy sheriff goes online in teen chat rooms posing as a young girl | > or boy and chats with pedophiles. They have been very successful in | > arresting men trying to meet the young girl or boy they have been | > chatting with. In all cases, then men have come to Bedford from quite | > some distances to carry out their schemes. | | They do that here too, and several of those arrested have been acquitted | because no crime was actually committed -- there was no actual child | involved. The state is or did change/are changing part of the law they were | charged with to make it a crime anyway. Not sure where *here* is but in Texas, Louisiana and I think NC the intent is sufficient if the DA can demonstrate that the bad boy though he was dealing with a child and intended to complete the act. BTW flying cross country is a good indication but simply driving down the road 5 miles to a motel also qualifies. | | From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 22:04:30 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 22:10:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns960DC90861EBEjohnlspamcopnet@216.154.195.61... > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in news:d05tb1$2vu$1 > @news.spamcop.net: > > > What I need is a decent newsreader. Anyone got any suggestions? ie one > > that'll filter by posting host etc. > > Xnews..... > Did I say I love Xnews? Can you share your filter file? Is the scoring stored in a file like the Nfilter is? From devnull at spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 22:06:16 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Wed Mar 2 22:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "David Dean" wrote in message news:ozchzhq02-231693.08422202032005@localhost... | In article , | "Frog Prince" wrote: | | > You can host it here (I'm in NC and have an apartment in N Dallas) | | Thank you for the offer, and I will seriously consider it. I'm going | to wait to see if this second provider can punch through Venison's | attempt at monopoly abuse. Who is in charge of the wires where you live? Sprint in NC and (among others) Verizon in Dallas. Charter is the cable system in NC, I think Comcast is the big boy in N Dallas. I have a friend in a town near here (NC) that has a T1 he may consider hosting if that would help. From devnull at spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 22:10:14 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Wed Mar 2 22:15:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "David Dean" | | > Aren't Verizon required by law to let you have options with DSL like they | > are with long distance phone service? It seems like they should be, if they | > aren't! | | Well, I could probably complain to the VA Attorney General's office, | but he is too busy running for governor to pay any attention to my | complaint. Might be *the* best time. Anything for the get out the vote (for me). From devnull at spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 22:11:45 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Wed Mar 2 22:15:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d05jp1$s6i$1@news.spamcop.net... | Charles wrote: | | Who was that masked man?!? The star of Boggie Nights? From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 19:20:06 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Wed Mar 2 22:25:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns960DB83FCBF1Djohnlspamcopnet@216.154.195.61... > "Heidz" wrote in news:d05n64$v5s$1 > @news.spamcop.net: > > > That NewsProxy is a wunnerful thing, you should get it going on your end. > > Hey, XNews works as good! :) > > I seen a fairly large number for .social , but when it loaded, just a few > were showing, and none from the idjit, poor kid, he's really being left out > now. Where does one get XNews, is it free or do I have to pay for it? LOL From devnull at spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 22:17:32 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Wed Mar 2 22:25:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "JohnL" | > That NewsProxy is a wunnerful thing, you should get it going on your end. | | Hey, XNews works as good! :) | | I seen a fairly large number for .social , but when it loaded, just a few | were showing, and none from the idjit, poor kid, he's really being left out | now. Kinda like everybody moved and no one told him we how to find us. From johnl at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 04:03:29 2005 From: johnl at spamcop.net (JohnL) Date: Wed Mar 2 23:05:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "Heidz" wrote in news:d05uvb$3ul$1 @news.spamcop.net: > > "JohnL" wrote in message > news:Xns960DC90861EBEjohnlspamcopnet@216.154.195.61... >> Xnews..... >> Did I say I love Xnews? > > Can you share your filter file? Is the scoring stored in a file like the > Nfilter is? > > Well, with Xnews opened - Ctrl E - and the score.ini file should open up. The following is the format to block by I.P. or posting host, either by range or specific ones [$] Score:: -9999 NNTP-Posting-Host: 166.114.30.40 NNTP-Posting-Host: 218.154.214.8 NNTP-Posting-Host: 43.red-213-98-143.pooles.rima-tde.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 200.83 NNTP-Posting-Host: 210 NNTP-Posting-Host: c-67-182-99-215.client.comcast.net NNTP-Posting-Host: xtreme-21-173.dyn.aci.on.ca NNTP-Posting-Host: 218 NNTP-Posting-Host: pcp09991269pcs.narlington.nj.comcast.net NNTP-Posting-Host: ool-44c64899.dyn.optonline.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.99.255.144 NNTP-Posting-Host: pcp08501684pcs.pimaco01.az.comcast.net From johnl at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 04:05:18 2005 From: johnl at spamcop.net (JohnL) Date: Wed Mar 2 23:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in news:d05vp7$4a4$1 @news.spamcop.net: > Where does one get XNews, is it free or do I have to pay for it? LOL http://xnews.newsguy.com/ From David1 at suescornerweb.com Wed Mar 2 23:12:07 2005 From: David1 at suescornerweb.com (David 1) Date: Wed Mar 2 23:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: indigo wrote: > David 1 wrote: > The reason I was told > >>they could keep Frognet.net out (GREAT ISP folks, they work with you >>the best they can) > > > Do you live in MD? AFAIK frognet is based somewhere near Annapolis, MD. They > have ads on the radio all the time here. > > as far as I know they are based here in Ohio with me their site is Http://www.frognet.net if that helps any -- David 1 bad addy spamtrap@suescornerweb.com From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 23:23:42 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Wed Mar 2 23:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Speaking of ID's and security Message-ID: There was a story on the news tonight about people bringing illegal items in their carryons when they fly. If you get caught, the TSA can fine you at their discretion, and put your name and personal information in a database with your infraction. If they do, you'll never know because you have no access to the information they have on you. This kind of thing is more and more common, it seems, and it sucks. http://www1.whdh.com/features/articles/hank/DBM1305/ From MikeE at ster.invalid Thu Mar 3 04:16:16 2005 From: MikeE at ster.invalid (Mike Easter) Date: Thu Mar 3 07:15:16 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Speaking of ID's and security References: Message-ID: Heidz wrote: > There was a story on the news tonight about people bringing illegal > items in their carryons when they fly. Soon including lighters for you people who like to set your shoe on fire or smolder various weeds. -- Mike Easter kibitzer, not SC admin From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 09:09:51 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Mar 3 09:10:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Speaking of ID's and security References: Message-ID: "Mike Easter" wrote in message news:d06v43$q0c$1@news.spamcop.net... > Soon including lighters for you people who like to set your shoe on fire > or smolder various weeds. > I thought it always did include lighters? An knitting needles, heaven forbid you want to stab someone with one and take over the plane. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 06:09:49 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Mar 3 09:10:23 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: interesting article References: Message-ID: "David Dean" wrote in message news:ozchzhq02-027F8B.20330102032005@localhost... > In article , > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote: > > > I can see some reasons for some things to be kept secret > > Yes, I agree with your examples. But the actual workings of > government and our laws should be available for public inspection. that's fer damn sure! especially with someone like Bush at the helm From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 09:12:34 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Mar 3 09:15:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: interesting article References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05o83$f3$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Big pharmaceuticals companies, no doubt. Especially if there's a human > version of the vaccine. > They will report and release data on human adverse drug reactions (probably to cover their asses and keep from being sued), but NOT for animals - completely bizarre. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 06:13:14 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Mar 3 09:15:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "Heidz" wrote in message news:d05ndm$v9n$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message > news:Xns960DCA9E02BDDTheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > > > > Um. You're not talkin' 'bout me, I hope :) But as for not seeing > posts... > > Yeah, it's strange, huh? I don't see any posts by JerryMouse, for > example, > > or cancels of said posts but I see all kinds of folks replying to him. > > Verra verra strange indeed... > > Some people still feel the need to respond to the Vile Piece of Shit Troll > as well..... It looks like they're all learning their lesson though, if what they say is true. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 06:14:59 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Mar 3 09:15:16 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_Oscar=AE_Night?= References: Message-ID: "Heidz" wrote in message news:d05nm5$vjh$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:d05ngf$va6$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > Ah I see. I haven't seen any of the REALLY bad ones yet I guess. > > > The one with the cat who was using the toilet and missing was a real piece > of work....not quite sure how one teaches a cat to pee in the toilet, but > the obviously failed along the way... I guess the cat grasped the basic idea but wasn't quite good enough with the aiming LOL. There are these litter pan things you can buy that you place over the toilet to get the cat used to the idea of doing it there. Then you remove the pan so the cat will supposedly figure out how to perch on the toilet seat. Looks like you'd have a 1% success rate to me LOL From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 06:17:43 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Mar 3 09:20:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "Heidz" wrote in message news:d05o1i$vtn$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message > news:Xns960DCB5675274TheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > > > > Um. Trix are for kids? I dunno - it's just the idiom, dude. Job is the > > same (awesome prospects, but have to work on those, eh? The nature > > conservancy is hiring, for example...). > > THAT would be cool - what exactly are they hiring for? > > House is new, I guess, but the old > > one _still_ isn't sold (gack!). Ain't wun me no stinkingk lotto yet. > I'se > > got to try me that one of these days, I 'spec'. > > > Do you know why it hasn't sold? You should do a House Doctor thing. Film > people looking at the house and listen to their comments - that'll give you > some hints, fresh paint does wonders, have you done that? > http://www.bbcamerica.com/genre/home_living/house_doctor/house_doctor_about.jsp For some reason I don't see all of Charles's posts. I wonder why? I have precious few filters set up and I'm reasonably sure he's not in any of them. I wonder if Charles's pad is full of junk. I remember going to view a house once and it was just stuffed to the gills with junk and dirty too. Why would they think that a stranger is going to look past all of that? From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 09:26:21 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Mar 3 09:30:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d076a7$um2$1@news.spamcop.net... > > For some reason I don't see all of Charles's posts. I wonder why? I have > precious few filters set up and I'm reasonably sure he's not in any of them. Don't know why you wouldn't, his don't get archived either. > > I wonder if Charles's pad is full of junk. I remember going to view a house > once and it was just stuffed to the gills with junk and dirty too. Why would > they think that a stranger is going to look past all of that? It's amazing what you look through and don't see when it's your house. Even when I'm cleaning, sometimes I have to walk out and in again to see if there's anything glaring that I missed because I'm so used to seeing it. From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 10:43:50 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Mar 3 10:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] SHHH! Message-ID: http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/WolfFiles/story?id=236498&page=1 If you burn with anger when you're subjected to the nonstop jabbering of a cell phone abuser, there's something you should know: The technology now exists to zap that person's cell phone signal with the press of a button, so he's left talking to himself. Cell phone jammers - some made to look like actual cell phones - are widely sold over the Internet at prices ranging from $300 to $1,500. The low-end models block calls at a range of about 30 feet, and top-of-the-line ones can provide a cell-free zone almost as large as a football field. The offending loudmouth won't even know he's being jammed. His signal will just go dead, and he'll probably just complain to his phone carrier. That is, if his signal ever returns. One minor problem: Jammers are illegal. Regulating the airways is the domain of the Federal Communication Commission, and a violation carries an $11,000 fine. But the FCC has yet to slap someone for illegal jamming. Luckily, there are some old-fashioned, shame-based solutions for rudeness. One online group, calling itself the Society for Hand-Held Hushing - or SHHH! - is offering downloadable notes that you can fill out and hand to someone who's speaking on the phone a little too loudly about something a little too personal. An example of such a SHHH! note reads as follows: Dear Cell Phone User, We are aware your ongoing conversation about YOUR HUSBAND'S VASECTOMY is very important to you, but it doesn't interest us in the least. In fact, your babbling disregard for others is more than a little annoying. - SHHH! Society for Hand-Held Hushing From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Thu Mar 3 15:52:09 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Thu Mar 3 11:10:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: interesting article References: Message-ID: "David Dean" wrote in message news:ozchzhq02-D86716.19545702032005@localhost... > In article , > "Porpoise" wrote: > >> AFAIK all airports/airlines >> (worldwide) now require photo ID before they'll allow you through. IMHO >> that's a good thing (tm). > > I don't think that the showing of ID itself is the problem, but the > fact that the law is not a public record. > What law? My plane, my rules........... From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Thu Mar 3 15:53:24 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Thu Mar 3 11:10:20 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: interesting article References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d05nsn$vs5$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Porpoise" wrote in message > news:d05jur$s7j$1@news.spamcop.net... >> > > So don't fly if it's that much of a problem. AFAIK all airports/airlines >> (worldwide) now require photo ID before they'll allow you through. IMHO >> that's a good thing (tm). > > Again, that's not the point this guy is trying to make. He'll show his ID > when someone shows him the law which supposedly exists that mandates that > he > should show his ID. Why should you obey a law if you can't actually see > the > content of that law? If Tony Blair said that there was a law requiring you > to give your name, address and date of birth to anyone seemingly > legitimate > who asks for it, would you just blindly hand it over without questioning > it? > What law? My plane, my rules............. From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 11:19:48 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Mar 3 11:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: interesting article References: Message-ID: "Porpoise" wrote in message news:d07cjs$2sl$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What law? My plane, my rules........... Nuh uh, the airlines claim they are forced to comply with this federal law, it's not voluntary. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 10:35:06 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Mar 3 13:40:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Speaking of ID's and security References: Message-ID: "Mike Easter" wrote in message news:d06v43$q0c$1@news.spamcop.net... > Heidz wrote: > > There was a story on the news tonight about people bringing illegal > > items in their carryons when they fly. > > Soon including lighters for you people who like to set your shoe on fire > or smolder various weeds. Presumably matches are still allowed? If so, why? I like to carry a box of matches (or should I say hubby makes me bring some) along with a compass, water and some candy just in case we have a crash landing which we survive by some miracle. Thus we'd have a means of making fire, a direction finder, water and a bottle and some small source of instant energy. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 10:36:33 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Mar 3 13:40:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Speaking of ID's and security References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:d075pm$uab$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Mike Easter" wrote in message > news:d06v43$q0c$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Soon including lighters for you people who like to set your shoe on fire > > or smolder various weeds. > > > I thought it always did include lighters? An knitting needles, heaven forbid you > want to stab someone with one and take over the plane. Knitting needles look positively deadly next to nail clippers yet somehow they imagine nail clippers are an implement of threat or death which is plainly absurd. They only just introduced the lighter ban, it may not even have taken effect yet. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 10:40:30 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Mar 3 13:45:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: SHHH! References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:d07b9t$226$1@news.spamcop.net... > http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/WolfFiles/story?id=236498&page=1 > If you burn with anger when you're subjected to the nonstop jabbering of a cell phone > abuser, there's something you should know: The technology now exists to zap that > person's cell phone signal with the press of a button, so he's left talking to > himself. > > Cell phone jammers - some made to look like actual cell phones - are widely sold over > the Internet at prices ranging from $300 to $1,500. The low-end models block calls at > a range of about 30 feet, and top-of-the-line ones can provide a cell-free zone > almost as large as a football field. > The offending loudmouth won't even know he's being jammed. His signal will just go > dead, and he'll probably just complain to his phone carrier. That is, if his signal > ever returns. > > One minor problem: Jammers are illegal. Regulating the airways is the domain of the > Federal Communication Commission, and a violation carries an $11,000 fine. But the > FCC has yet to slap someone for illegal jamming. You'd think that in privately owned spaces such as restaurants or movie theatres, the owners should have the right to jam cell phones if they wish. I saw something on the news last night though that was a little worrying. These guys were sucking off all the information from people's cell phones without them having a clue that it was happening (supposedly the targets were their own friends etc who were in on it). I don't have much to worry about, there's nothing on my cell phone that anyone would find of any use but some people have combo PDAs with all sorts of info on there and it can just be accessed by someone with the right equipment. So beware! From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 10:41:08 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Mar 3 13:45:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Clock police! References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns960DC8E7D194johnlspamcopnet@216.154.195.61... > "Heidz" wrote in news:d05so7$2nd$1 > @news.spamcop.net: > > > Bad bad BAD computer.... > > Yeah right, blame the computer. :P It's a little odd that it decided on Central time. Maybe it was built somewhere 'in the middle' LOL. From johnl at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 18:41:24 2005 From: johnl at spamcop.net (JohnL) Date: Thu Mar 3 13:45:21 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Speaking of ID's and security References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in news:d07lfh$928$1 @news.spamcop.net: > they imagine nail clippers are an implement of threat or death I got to say that the "small" file on some nail clippers was the cause of me getting 6 stiches right under my eye when a violent "person" attacked me. Came VERY close to taking my eye out. (I used "person" like I did because he was a "guest of the State") From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 10:42:52 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Mar 3 13:45:25 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns960DC90861EBEjohnlspamcopnet@216.154.195.61... > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in news:d05tb1$2vu$1 > @news.spamcop.net: > > > What I need is a decent newsreader. Anyone got any suggestions? ie one > > that'll filter by posting host etc. > > Xnews..... > Did I say I love Xnews? I'm downloading it as we 'speak'. Do you have a big filter file already created that I could acquire? From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Thu Mar 3 18:31:01 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Thu Mar 3 13:45:28 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Speaking of ID's and security References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d07lfh$928$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message > news:d075pm$uab$1@news.spamcop.net... >> >> "Mike Easter" wrote in message >> news:d06v43$q0c$1@news.spamcop.net... >> >> > Soon including lighters for you people who like to set your shoe on >> > fire >> > or smolder various weeds. >> > >> I thought it always did include lighters? An knitting needles, heaven > forbid you >> want to stab someone with one and take over the plane. > > Knitting needles look positively deadly next to nail clippers yet somehow > they imagine nail clippers are an implement of threat or death which is > plainly absurd. They only just introduced the lighter ban, it may not even > have taken effect yet. > > I'm still waiting for them to ban biros......... can kill someone with one of those far easier than with a pair of nail clippers....!! From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 10:44:45 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Mar 3 13:45:32 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:d05v9q$45b$3@news.spamcop.net... > > "indigo" wrote in message > news:d05jp1$s6i$1@news.spamcop.net... > | Charles wrote: > | > | Who was that masked man?!? > > The star of Boggie Nights? Is it a bit muddy down there? From johnl at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 18:45:49 2005 From: johnl at spamcop.net (JohnL) Date: Thu Mar 3 13:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in news:d07lrf$9co$1 @news.spamcop.net: > I'm downloading it as we 'speak'. Do you have a big filter file already > created that I could acquire? > > > Not really. About the only thing I filter on is the idiot(s) in here. I had already included that bit in another posting. If you can't find it, I'll copy n paste it again. (also, the "Kill" function works very well to plonk by name. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 10:46:13 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Mar 3 13:50:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns960DD637C3304johnlspamcopnet@216.154.195.61... > "Heidz" wrote in news:d05uvb$3ul$1 > @news.spamcop.net: > > > > > "JohnL" wrote in message > > news:Xns960DC90861EBEjohnlspamcopnet@216.154.195.61... > >> Xnews..... > >> Did I say I love Xnews? > > > > Can you share your filter file? Is the scoring stored in a file like > the > > Nfilter is? > > > > > > Well, with Xnews opened - Ctrl E - and the score.ini file should open > up. > > The following is the format to block by I.P. or posting host, either by > range or specific ones > > [$] > Score:: -9999 > NNTP-Posting-Host: 166.114.30.40 > NNTP-Posting-Host: 218.154.214.8 > NNTP-Posting-Host: 43.red-213-98-143.pooles.rima-tde.net > NNTP-Posting-Host: 200.83 > NNTP-Posting-Host: 210 > NNTP-Posting-Host: c-67-182-99-215.client.comcast.net > NNTP-Posting-Host: xtreme-21-173.dyn.aci.on.ca > NNTP-Posting-Host: 218 > NNTP-Posting-Host: pcp09991269pcs.narlington.nj.comcast.net > NNTP-Posting-Host: ool-44c64899.dyn.optonline.net > NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.99.255.144 > NNTP-Posting-Host: pcp08501684pcs.pimaco01.az.comcast.net You don't seem to have his current favourite in that list (unless it's just listed by IP) - the netvision.il one. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 10:51:11 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Mar 3 13:55:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: interesting article References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:d075up$uch$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:d05o83$f3$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > Big pharmaceuticals companies, no doubt. Especially if there's a human > > version of the vaccine. > > > They will report and release data on human adverse drug reactions (probably to cover > their asses and keep from being sued), but NOT for animals - completely bizarre. Hmm... probably they're required by law to do it for humans otherwise you can bet yer fur they wouldn't! (they'd deny it for as long as they could if someone claimed it caused an adverse reaction) From johnl at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 18:51:29 2005 From: johnl at spamcop.net (JohnL) Date: Thu Mar 3 13:55:17 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in news:d07m1l$9k2$1@news.spamcop.net: >> The following is the format to block by I.P. or posting host, either >> by range or specific ones >> >> [$] >> Score:: -9999 >> NNTP-Posting-Host: 166.114.30.40 >> NNTP-Posting-Host: 218.154.214.8 >> NNTP-Posting-Host: 43.red-213-98-143.pooles.rima-tde.net >> NNTP-Posting-Host: 200.83 >> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210 >> NNTP-Posting-Host: c-67-182-99-215.client.comcast.net >> NNTP-Posting-Host: xtreme-21-173.dyn.aci.on.ca >> NNTP-Posting-Host: 218 >> NNTP-Posting-Host: pcp09991269pcs.narlington.nj.comcast.net >> NNTP-Posting-Host: ool-44c64899.dyn.optonline.net >> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.99.255.144 >> NNTP-Posting-Host: pcp08501684pcs.pimaco01.az.comcast.net > > You don't seem to have his current favourite in that list (unless it's > just listed by IP) - the netvision.il one. Ooops.... NNTP-Posting-Host: vl654.host66.netvision.net.il NNTP-Posting-Host: speedup.oxfordnetworks.net NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-10-229-51.hr.hr.cox.net NNTP-Posting-Host: c-24-1-138-5.client.comcast.net NNTP-Posting-Host: ool-18bcfh6e5.dyn.optonline.net Some of these of course are no longer being used, but they had been in the past. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 10:52:56 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Mar 3 13:55:21 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:d076ok$uuh$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:d076a7$um2$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > For some reason I don't see all of Charles's posts. I wonder why? I have > > precious few filters set up and I'm reasonably sure he's not in any of them. > > Don't know why you wouldn't, his don't get archived either. > > > > I wonder if Charles's pad is full of junk. I remember going to view a house > > once and it was just stuffed to the gills with junk and dirty too. Why would > > they think that a stranger is going to look past all of that? > > It's amazing what you look through and don't see when it's your house. Even when I'm > cleaning, sometimes I have to walk out and in again to see if there's anything > glaring that I missed because I'm so used to seeing it. Yeah, no doubt that accounts for some of it. It's only when junk is cleared out that some of us (hubby the packrat comes to mind) notice how much stuff there was. Having a load of junk around tends to drive me nuts and I get depressed about it. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 10:53:18 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Mar 3 13:55:24 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: interesting article References: Message-ID: "Porpoise" wrote in message news:d07cjs$2sl$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "David Dean" wrote in message > news:ozchzhq02-D86716.19545702032005@localhost... > > In article , > > "Porpoise" wrote: > > > >> AFAIK all airports/airlines > >> (worldwide) now require photo ID before they'll allow you through. IMHO > >> that's a good thing (tm). > > > > I don't think that the showing of ID itself is the problem, but the > > fact that the law is not a public record. > > > > What law? My plane, my rules........... Are you being deliberately obtuse? From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 10:57:39 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Mar 3 14:00:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Speaking of ID's and security References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns960E76EDDDF81johnlspamcopnet@216.154.195.61... > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in news:d07lfh$928$1 > @news.spamcop.net: > > > they imagine nail clippers are an implement of threat or death > > > I got to say that the "small" file on some nail clippers was the cause of > me getting 6 stiches right under my eye when a violent "person" attacked > me. Came VERY close to taking my eye out. > (I used "person" like I did because he was a "guest of the State") I don't think I've encountered that type of nail clippers. The ones I'm referring to have a tiny little gap for you to put the nail into and a springy handle that pushes the gap together. No possible danger there unless it was jabbed right into someone's eye and let's face it, you could pretty much stick anything into a person's eyes and cause damage. Soon we'll have to wear mittens for the entire duration of flights, just in case someone thinks of using their fingers as weapons (no doubt some experts can be quite deadly without any weapon at all so what are we to do?). How did you happen to get into a tussle with a prisoner? From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 10:59:05 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Mar 3 14:00:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns960E77AE08EE7johnlspamcopnet@216.154.195.61... > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in news:d07lrf$9co$1 > @news.spamcop.net: > > > I'm downloading it as we 'speak'. Do you have a big filter file already > > created that I could acquire? > > > > > > > > Not really. About the only thing I filter on is the idiot(s) in here. > I had already included that bit in another posting. > If you can't find it, I'll copy n paste it again. > > (also, the "Kill" function works very well to plonk by name. Yeah, that'd work on 'normal' folk but not on The Idiot. I saw your list and will implement it. I guess Heidi could use her NewsProxy filter and just paste it in to the right place. From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 14:07:19 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Mar 3 14:10:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Clock police! References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d07lo4$96h$1@news.spamcop.net... > > It's a little odd that it decided on Central time. Maybe it was built > somewhere 'in the middle' LOL. It's a Gateway, born in cow country, that's in the middle, right? From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 14:09:42 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Mar 3 14:10:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns960E77AE08EE7johnlspamcopnet@216.154.195.61... > > (also, the "Kill" function works very well to plonk by name. LOL...my eyes are blurry and I read "KILT" function.....pretty cool function! From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 11:17:53 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Mar 3 14:20:16 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Clock police! References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:d07n7e$alf$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:d07lo4$96h$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > > It's a little odd that it decided on Central time. Maybe it was built > > somewhere 'in the middle' LOL. > > It's a Gateway, born in cow country, that's in the middle, right? LOL, for the most part yes. But I thought they did a lot of manufacturing in Ireland? Maybe those only go to the european market. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 11:18:32 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Mar 3 14:20:25 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:d07nbt$amh$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "JohnL" wrote in message > news:Xns960E77AE08EE7johnlspamcopnet@216.154.195.61... > > > > (also, the "Kill" function works very well to plonk by name. > > LOL...my eyes are blurry and I read "KILT" function.....pretty cool function! Depends on if you lift the kilt or not... and if he's wearing traditional Scots underwear beneath! From johnl at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 19:26:18 2005 From: johnl at spamcop.net (JohnL) Date: Thu Mar 3 14:30:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Speaking of ID's and security References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in news:d07mn3$a7f$1@news.spamcop.net: > I don't think I've encountered that type of nail clippers. The ones > I'm referring to have a tiny little gap for you to put the nail into > and a springy handle that pushes the gap together. Yep, that's the kind, but, at least back in the 70's and earlier, there was also a small nail file attached that swung out. > How did you happen to get into a tussle with a prisoner? At that time, it was in my job specs. :) From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 11:32:35 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Mar 3 14:35:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] food for thought Message-ID: Apologies if something funky happens with the line breaks (for some reason they're not wrapping but they should do when you read it).A professor stood before his philosophy class and had some items in front of him. When the class began, wordlessly, he picked up a very large and empty mayonnaise jar and proceeded to fill it with golf balls.He then asked the students if the jar was full. They agreed that it was.The professor then picked up a box of pebbles and poured them into the jar. He shook the jar lightly. The pebbles rolled into the open areas between the golf balls. He then asked the students again if the jar was full. They agreed it was.The professor next picked up a box of sand and poured it into the jar. Of course, the sand filled up everything else. He asked once more if the jar was full. The students responded with a unanimous "yes".The professor then produced two cups of coffee from under the table and poured the entire contents into the jar, effectively filling the empty space between the sand. The students laughed."Now," said the professor, as the laughter subsided, " I want you to recognize that this jar represents your life. The golf balls are the important things - Your family, your children, your health, your friends, and your favorite passions - things that if everything else was lost and only they remained, your life would still be full.The pebbles are the other things that matter like your job, your house, and your car. The sand is everything else - the small stuff.""If you put the sand into the jar first," he continued, "there is no room for the pebbles or the golf balls.The same goes for life. If you spend all your time and energy on the small stuff, you will never have room for the things that are important to you. Pay attention to the things that are critical to your happiness.Play with your children. Take time to get medical checkups. Take your partner out to dinner. Play another 18. There will always be time to clean the house and fix the disposal. Take care of the golf balls first, the things that really matter. Set your priorities. The rest is just sand."One of the students raised her hand and inquired what the coffee represented.The professor smiled. "I'm glad you asked. It just goes to show you that no matter how full your life may seem, there's always room for a couple of cups of coffee with a friend." From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 14:33:59 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Mar 3 14:35:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: SHHH! References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d07lmu$95o$1@news.spamcop.net... > I saw something on the news last night though that was a little worrying. > These guys were sucking off all the information from people's cell phones > without them having a clue that it was happening (supposedly the targets > were their own friends etc who were in on it). I don't have much to worry > about, there's nothing on my cell phone that anyone would find of any use > but some people have combo PDAs with all sorts of info on there and it can > just be accessed by someone with the right equipment. So beware! > > Somehow Paris "waste of space" Hilton's account at Tmobile, I think got hacked and her celeb friends phones were plastered all over the internet, plus all her private pictures that were stored there. Good reason not to have a 'camera phone'. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 11:35:27 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Mar 3 14:40:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Speaking of ID's and security References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns960E7E8B3E28Ajohnlspamcopnet@216.154.195.61... > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in > news:d07mn3$a7f$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > I don't think I've encountered that type of nail clippers. The ones > > I'm referring to have a tiny little gap for you to put the nail into > > and a springy handle that pushes the gap together. > > Yep, that's the kind, but, at least back in the 70's and earlier, there was > also a small nail file attached that swung out. Ahh, I guess they got rid of that bit. > > > How did you happen to get into a tussle with a prisoner? > > At that time, it was in my job specs. :) Ooooh... what fun! I have a friend who used to be a Sheriff's deputy in TX and occasionally she'd have to do prison duty (ie taking prisoners from the jail to the prison). It wasn't exactly a barrel of laughs. From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 14:36:43 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Mar 3 14:40:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Speaking of ID's and security References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d07lcp$90g$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Presumably matches are still allowed? If so, why? I like to carry a box of > matches (or should I say hubby makes me bring some) along with a compass, > water and some candy just in case we have a crash landing which we survive > by some miracle. Thus we'd have a means of making fire, a direction finder, > water and a bottle and some small source of instant energy. That's actually very smart, I think. I always fly wearing jeans, no polyester that might melt in a fire, and wearing shoes that I can run in if I need to escape a plane or something. I'm quite paranoid about that, never understood how women can fly wearing suits and three inch heels. I'm ready for action! From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 14:37:36 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Mar 3 14:40:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d07nu8$b3l$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Depends on if you lift the kilt or not... and if he's wearing traditional > Scots underwear beneath! JOHN....show us what's under YOUR kilt........ From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 11:37:03 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Mar 3 14:40:18 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: SHHH! References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:d07opf$btl$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:d07lmu$95o$1@news.spamcop.net... > > I saw something on the news last night though that was a little worrying. > > These guys were sucking off all the information from people's cell phones > > without them having a clue that it was happening (supposedly the targets > > were their own friends etc who were in on it). I don't have much to worry > > about, there's nothing on my cell phone that anyone would find of any use > > but some people have combo PDAs with all sorts of info on there and it can > > just be accessed by someone with the right equipment. So beware! > > > > > Somehow Paris "waste of space" Hilton's account at Tmobile, I think got hacked and > her celeb friends phones were plastered all over the internet, plus all her private > pictures that were stored there. Good reason not to have a 'camera phone'. Yes I saw that. What's interesting though, from what I heard, is that she knew about 2 weeks before it got put all over the internet that it had been stolen but I guess she hadn't seen fit to tell everyone who might have a problem because of it. Silly tart. From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 15:26:42 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Mar 3 15:30:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: SHHH! References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d07p0v$c1n$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Yes I saw that. What's interesting though, from what I heard, is that she > knew about 2 weeks before it got put all over the internet that it had been > stolen but I guess she hadn't seen fit to tell everyone who might have a > problem because of it. Silly tart. > LOL, note my previous comment, 'waste of space'. Eeejut... From johnl at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 21:21:10 2005 From: johnl at spamcop.net (JohnL) Date: Thu Mar 3 16:25:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in news:d07p07$c1i$1@news.spamcop.net: > > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:d07nu8$b3l$1@news.spamcop.net... >> >> Depends on if you lift the kilt or not... and if he's wearing >> traditional Scots underwear beneath! > > JOHN....show us what's under YOUR kilt........ > > > I like the feeling of the breeze, if you know what I mean. ;-) From nospam at bisusa.com Thu Mar 3 15:59:44 2005 From: nospam at bisusa.com (JerryMouse) Date: Thu Mar 3 17:00:18 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Don't Mess With Texas Message-ID: >From a voice-mail recording: http://www.rlharkins.com/Media/voicemail1.wav From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 17:09:46 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Mar 3 17:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: Heidz wrote: > "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message > news:Xns960DCAE085737TheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... >> >> Well, actually, the new stuff that they've done on the server works >> pretty well - it's eating up most of s/h/it's posts. Sure, right >> there a few got through, but they were easy to take care of (with an >> appropriate news reader and bla bla). > > Wasn't aware that anything had been done - but I don't care, I can't > see his spew anymore so he's just going to have to go back to playing > with himself. Why have I not tried Xnews, or was that the one with > the scoring that I couldn't figure out? I tried Xnews and found it so difficult to navigate I gave up within an hour or so...... From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 17:12:36 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Mar 3 17:10:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: Heidz wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:d05jp1$s6i$1@news.spamcop.net... >> Charles wrote: >> >> Who was that masked man?!? > > He did *not* write that..... Sure looked like a post from ol' Charles.....though I didn't check the posting IP..... From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 17:14:50 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Mar 3 17:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: David 1 wrote: >> >> Do you live in MD? AFAIK frognet is based somewhere near Annapolis, >> MD. They have ads on the radio all the time here. >> >> > > as far as I know they are based here in Ohio with me their site is > > Http://www.frognet.net > > if that helps any it would appear you are correct, sir......but they surely have a large presence here'bouts! From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 17:23:20 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Mar 3 17:20:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Speaking of ID's and security References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: >> Yep, that's the kind, but, at least back in the 70's and earlier, >> there was also a small nail file attached that swung out. > > Ahh, I guess they got rid of that bit. Nope. All of my nail clippers have that little pull-out nail file, one of them purchased within the last year. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 17:29:53 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Mar 3 17:30:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: SHHH! References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: >> > Somehow Paris "waste of space" Hilton's account at Tmobile, I think > got hacked and her celeb friends phones were plastered all over the > internet, plus all her private pictures that were stored there. Good > reason not to have a 'camera phone'. Was the Fred Durst sex video part of the same hack or was his own sidekick hacked? Heard about it on talk radio the other day, the snarky hosts were very uncomplimentary about his current beer belly and "lack of unit size".....but from what I know he's this big womanizer? With a wee little thingy? Something ain't quite right.....but if you ask me the guy is just damn gross, but he does have this big rep with celeb women.... From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 17:32:11 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Mar 3 17:30:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: food for thought References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > Apologies if something funky happens with the line breaks (for some > Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d07meu$9v3$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Porpoise" wrote in message > news:d07cjs$2sl$1@news.spamcop.net... >> >> "David Dean" wrote in message >> news:ozchzhq02-D86716.19545702032005@localhost... >> > In article , >> > "Porpoise" wrote: >> > >> >> AFAIK all airports/airlines >> >> (worldwide) now require photo ID before they'll allow you through. >> >> IMHO >> >> that's a good thing (tm). >> > >> > I don't think that the showing of ID itself is the problem, but the >> > fact that the law is not a public record. >> > >> >> What law? My plane, my rules........... > > Are you being deliberately obtuse? > > Obtuse? Are you trying to tell me that whatever law it is that you're referring to has been enacted in every country? I don't think so. The airlines decide what security measures they're going to take. AFAIK there is no *law* requiring them to require ID - rather that they have decided to follow EL-AL's lead (what they've been doing for years........ Long before 7-11. From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Thu Mar 3 22:39:41 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Thu Mar 3 17:55:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: interesting article References: Message-ID: "Porpoise" wrote in message news:d08476$k8t$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:d07meu$9v3$1@news.spamcop.net... >> >> "Porpoise" wrote in message >> news:d07cjs$2sl$1@news.spamcop.net... >>> >>> "David Dean" wrote in message >>> news:ozchzhq02-D86716.19545702032005@localhost... >>> > In article , >>> > "Porpoise" wrote: >>> > >>> >> AFAIK all airports/airlines >>> >> (worldwide) now require photo ID before they'll allow you through. >>> >> IMHO >>> >> that's a good thing (tm). >>> > >>> > I don't think that the showing of ID itself is the problem, but the >>> > fact that the law is not a public record. >>> > >>> >>> What law? My plane, my rules........... >> >> Are you being deliberately obtuse? >> >> > > Obtuse? Are you trying to tell me that whatever law it is that you're > referring to has been enacted in every country? I don't think so. The > airlines decide what security measures they're going to take. AFAIK there > is no *law* requiring them to require ID - rather that they have decided > to follow EL-AL's lead (what they've been doing for years........ Long > before 7-11. > Freudian slip? Of course, I meant 9-11. From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Thu Mar 3 22:40:05 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Thu Mar 3 17:55:16 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Clock police! References: Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns960EB53B0A057TheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > No way it was me! It was David Dean ! > >> is the time zone correct? > > Well, you know, time zones being what they are, and all... Um... "Do you > know how many time zones there are in the Soviet Union?" > -- > Mean presidents suck 7? From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 17:50:26 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Thu Mar 3 17:55:23 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "David Dean" wrote in message news:ozchzhq02-7C7CBC.09014203032005@localhost... | In article , | "Frog Prince" wrote: | | > I have a friend in a town near here (NC) that has a T1 he may consider | > hosting if that would help. | | That would be awesome. I could buy a Mac mini and send it your way | just about ready to go. My bandwidth usage should be minimal, how much | would he want? (It is only fair to supplement his electricity and | bandwidth costs a little) | Of course I still have to wait to see if Verizon backs down for the | second provider. If Verizon does, I've already agreed to buy service | from Megapath. Haven't spoken to him on this as yet. Send me your addy back channel brother_rabbit @ hot mail . com FP From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 17:53:19 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Thu Mar 3 17:55:27 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns960E92050F00johnlspamcopnet@216.154.195.61... | "Spamvireslayer" wrote in | news:d07p07$c1i$1@news.spamcop.net: | | > | > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message | > news:d07nu8$b3l$1@news.spamcop.net... | >> | >> Depends on if you lift the kilt or not... and if he's wearing | >> traditional Scots underwear beneath! | > | > JOHN....show us what's under YOUR kilt........ | > | > | > | | I like the feeling of the breeze, if you know what I mean. ;-) I'm told some women admire the sound of the wind in long pine logs. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 15:13:25 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Mar 3 18:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Speaking of ID's and security References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:d07oui$c12$1@news.spamcop.net... > That's actually very smart, I think. I always fly wearing jeans, no polyester that > might melt in a fire, and wearing shoes that I can run in if I need to escape a plane > or something. I'm quite paranoid about that, never understood how women can fly > wearing suits and three inch heels. I'm ready for action! Oh hell yeah, my clothes are comfortable and I wear sneakers. I don't want to have something on my feet that might stop me exiting, or come off in a melee. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 15:14:15 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Mar 3 18:15:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns960E92050F00johnlspamcopnet@216.154.195.61... > "Spamvireslayer" wrote in > news:d07p07$c1i$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > > > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > > news:d07nu8$b3l$1@news.spamcop.net... > >> > >> Depends on if you lift the kilt or not... and if he's wearing > >> traditional Scots underwear beneath! > > > > JOHN....show us what's under YOUR kilt........ > > > > > > > > I like the feeling of the breeze, if you know what I mean. ;-) oo errr missus! better be careful if it's a really breezy day though huh? ;o) From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 15:16:02 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Mar 3 18:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d081op$ijj$1@news.spamcop.net... > I tried Xnews and found it so difficult to navigate I gave up within an hour > or so...... Really? Surely it can't be that difficult for someone of your supposed intellect?! I haven't checked it out yet... if it seems impossible I'll report back LOL From johnl at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 23:25:14 2005 From: johnl at spamcop.net (JohnL) Date: Thu Mar 3 18:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in news:d084j5$kib$2 @news.spamcop.net: > I'm told some women admire the sound of the wind in long pine logs. LOL From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 15:30:28 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Mar 3 18:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: SHHH! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d082ug$jd9$1@news.spamcop.net... > Was the Fred Durst sex video part of the same hack or was his own sidekick > hacked? Heard about it on talk radio the other day, the snarky hosts were > very uncomplimentary about his current beer belly and "lack of unit > size".....but from what I know he's this big womanizer? With a wee little > thingy? Something ain't quite right.....but if you ask me the guy is just > damn gross, but he does have this big rep with celeb women.... Maybe his technique(s) in bed are what win them over? Certainly he ain't any sort of a hunk. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 15:31:04 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Mar 3 18:35:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: food for thought References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d0832q$jf0$1@news.spamcop.net... > Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > Apologies if something funky happens with the line breaks (for some > > > > > Finally! A professor who recognizes how important golf is to a happy life! > ;-) LOL.. I was going to make some comment about you not taking it as an endorsement of golf but I forgot From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 15:35:07 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Mar 3 18:40:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: interesting article References: Message-ID: "Porpoise" wrote in message news:d08476$k8t$1@news.spamcop.net... > Obtuse? Are you trying to tell me that whatever law it is that you're > referring to has been enacted in every country? I don't think so. The > airlines decide what security measures they're going to take. AFAIK there is > no *law* requiring them to require ID - rather that they have decided to > follow EL-AL's lead (what they've been doing for years........ Long before > 7-11. Hmm... anyone know how long 7-11 have existed? Could be quite a few decades. We're specifically talking about a law enacted by the US Government that supposedly the airlines are adhering to. The airlines in the US. Where Gilmore lives and where he's fighting in the courts to discover what the actual law is. So apparently you are wrong that there is no law requiring the airlines to ask for ID in the US. Whether it's a requirement for airlines in other countries is open to question but is irrelevant to the subject at hand. Airlines in other countries who are intending to fly passengers into the US are required by the US Government to transmit passenger data ahead of their arrival into the US if they want to keep flying to the US. You could say that is not a law but let's face it if the airlines refuse then their permits to operate in the US will be revoked. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 15:43:01 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Mar 3 18:45:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Clock police! References: Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns960EB53B0A057TheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > No way it was me! It was David Dean ! > > > is the time zone correct? > > Well, you know, time zones being what they are, and all... Um... "Do you > know how many time zones there are in the Soviet Union?" Seems like there's 9. Of course, there ain't no such country any more... From nospam at bisusa.com Thu Mar 3 18:17:27 2005 From: nospam at bisusa.com (JerryMouse) Date: Thu Mar 3 19:20:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: SHHH! References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > You'd think that in privately owned spaces such as restaurants or > movie theatres, the owners should have the right to jam cell phones > if they wish. If the owners don't have the gumption to evict the miscreants from the premises, I doubt they'd have the inclination to zap their phone. From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Fri Mar 4 00:17:30 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Thu Mar 3 19:30:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: interesting article References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d086vb$mbk$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Porpoise" wrote in message > news:d08476$k8t$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Obtuse? Are you trying to tell me that whatever law it is that you're >> referring to has been enacted in every country? I don't think so. The >> airlines decide what security measures they're going to take. AFAIK there > is >> no *law* requiring them to require ID - rather that they have decided to >> follow EL-AL's lead (what they've been doing for years........ Long >> before >> 7-11. > > Hmm... anyone know how long 7-11 have existed? Could be quite a few > decades. > > We're specifically talking about a law enacted by the US Government that > supposedly the airlines are adhering to. The airlines in the US. Where > Gilmore lives and where he's fighting in the courts to discover what the > actual law is. So apparently you are wrong that there is no law requiring > the airlines to ask for ID in the US. Whether it's a requirement for > airlines in other countries is open to question but is irrelevant to the > subject at hand. Airlines in other countries who are intending to fly > passengers into the US are required by the US Government to transmit > passenger data ahead of their arrival into the US if they want to keep > flying to the US. You could say that is not a law but let's face it if the > airlines refuse then their permits to operate in the US will be revoked. > > Well, let's face it, the US is peculiar about a lot of things.....! The fact is that the airlines require photo ID pretty much everywhere (and not only on international flights - even small inter-island airlines require photo ID) and that has absolutely nothing to do with any laws that may or may not have been passed in the US. That is the point I was making..... And, yes, I had already noticed my 9/11 - 7-11 slip....... ;-) From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Fri Mar 4 00:19:31 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Thu Mar 3 19:35:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Clock police! References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d087e5$mlg$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message > news:Xns960EB53B0A057TheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... >> No way it was me! It was David Dean ! >> >> > is the time zone correct? >> >> Well, you know, time zones being what they are, and all... Um... "Do >> you >> know how many time zones there are in the Soviet Union?" > > Seems like there's 9. Of course, there ain't no such country any more... > > Well, if you're going to be precise, there never was such a country - it was a "union" of several countries. Much the same as the USA is a "group" of states - not A state. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 20:26:33 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Thu Mar 3 20:30:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: food for thought References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d0832q$jf0$1@news.spamcop.net... > Finally! A professor who recognizes how important golf is to a happy life! > ;-) > I was waiting for that..... From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 20:29:20 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Thu Mar 3 20:35:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d085rr$lf5$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "indigo" wrote in message > news:d081op$ijj$1@news.spamcop.net... > > I tried Xnews and found it so difficult to navigate I gave up within an > hour > > or so...... > > Really? Surely it can't be that difficult for someone of your supposed > intellect?! I haven't checked it out yet... if it seems impossible I'll > report back LOL > I'm with him, I think it was xnews that I tried, and I think if I can't figure it out without reading the directions, it's too hard! From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 20:30:05 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Thu Mar 3 20:35:20 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d081u4$ilk$1@news.spamcop.net... > Heidz wrote: > > "indigo" wrote in message > > news:d05jp1$s6i$1@news.spamcop.net... > >> Charles wrote: > >> > >> Who was that masked man?!? > > > > He did *not* write that..... > > Sure looked like a post from ol' Charles.....though I didn't check the > posting IP..... Sigh, NO..... > >> Charles wrote: > >> > >> Who was that masked man?!? From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 20:43:50 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Thu Mar 3 20:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: God's Back with a Vengeance References: Message-ID: "LadySarah" wrote in message news:d05r87$231$1@news.spamcop.net... > "Miss Betsy" wrote in message > news:d05nf9$v9v$1@news.spamcop.net... > > You are very narrow in your perceptions of who > > I am and what Christians are. You only have your experiences, and I > > only > > have mine. That is supposed to be what discussions are all about, > > finding > > out what others experience and know. However, it seems that you > > want to > > displace my experience and world view with an imitation of only > > your own. > > It is very sad. > > > > > > This was the post that I was answering. I know what a Christian is > > because I am one. I know what other Christians say is their belief > > because I associate with more Christians than just Catholics or > > just ones that agree with me. > > > > I have never denied that you are compassionate loving Christian who > > is totally unbigoted or said that I didn't believe you that > > Christians can be loving, etc. I merely said that there are others > > who say they are Christians who act and say very different things. > > > > It is when you get like this that I vow I won't bother to try to > > discuss anything with you again. > > > > Miss Betsy > > > You did not answer my question. Do you remember what you said. If not I > will quote it here. > "If you continue to deny reality, then you will have problems in > convincing those who have experienced it. And it does not > contribute to discussing solutions since 'your' solutions won't fit > what others have experienced." > > Then I asked, "When and what reality have I denied? ..." > > You have chosen to not answer that question but instead hurl another > accusation. Instead you said, "It is when you get like this that I vow I > won't bother to try to discuss anything with you again." I don't have time to search for the post. The reason that I vow not to answer anything is because there was a post that said something about how could I support Phelps? The reality is that you said you didn't believe that there were people who claimed to be Christians (like Phelps) who preached hate and forcing their views on the general population. There are. And there are a lot of them in the 'mainstream' Christian congregations even though what the churches 'teach' may not be the same. And there are even more like Phelps who have small congregations who really do want the US Government to be a Christian government. You said that FP and I didn't know what we were talking about. Well, you are wrong. and accusing me of supporting Phelps doesn't make it right. Miss Betsy From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 20:42:19 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Thu Mar 3 20:50:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: interesting article References: Message-ID: "Porpoise" | Obtuse? Are you trying to tell me that whatever law it is that you're | referring to has been enacted in every country? I don't think so. The | airlines decide what security measures they're going to take. AFAIK there is | no *law* requiring them to require ID - rather that they have decided to | follow EL-AL's lead (what they've been doing for years........ Long before | 7-11. It's Indians the run the 7-11 not the Saudis. From spam at euclidian.com Thu Mar 3 23:11:36 2005 From: spam at euclidian.com (I Love Spam) Date: Thu Mar 3 23:15:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Why Is Spam So Bad Message-ID: Anyone that thinks spam is bad is an idiot. Spam is interesting. Has lots of useful information that you wouldn't normally know about. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 20:47:52 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Don Wannit) Date: Thu Mar 3 23:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: interesting article In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Porpoise wrote: > The fact is that the airlines require photo ID pretty much everywhere (and > not only on international flights - even small inter-island airlines require > photo ID) and that has absolutely nothing to do with any laws that may or > may not have been passed in the US. That is the point I was making..... A very useful tactic in many situations is "Follow The Money". Never forget that the airlines are jumping up and down with glee at any opportunity to make tickets non-transferable and paid airfares just so much money in the bank. Like many of the so-called "security measures" at airports, the real goal and the real effect of the requirement to show photo ID is *not* any real increase in safety or security. The security checkpoints make it look like the guv'mint is doing something, and prepares the public to accept without question any kind of personal invasion or imposition, with no justification given. "Your papers, please!" The photo ID requirement allows the airlines to pocket money paid for tickets with no value (travel) given in return. Only the very naive would think the airlines would not jump at the chance to use a nebulous, undocumented "security directive" to enhance their bottom line. From agent01413 at my-deja.com Fri Mar 4 05:52:23 2005 From: agent01413 at my-deja.com (Socks the Whitehouse Cat) Date: Fri Mar 4 00:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: interesting article References: Message-ID: Don Wannit wrote in news:d08p9q$4gf$1@news.spamcop.net: > Porpoise wrote: >> The fact is that the airlines require photo ID pretty much everywhere >> (and not only on international flights - even small inter-island >> airlines require photo ID) and that has absolutely nothing to do with >> any laws that may or may not have been passed in the US. That is the >> point I was making..... > > > The photo ID requirement allows the airlines to pocket money paid > for tickets with no value (travel) given in return. Only the very > naive would think the airlines would not jump at the chance to use > a nebulous, undocumented "security directive" to enhance their > bottom line. > > Gilmore is suing over this. apparently there is a national security directive, but the directive is so secret the government can't produce it, or the reasons for it, in the open court so that his lawyers can challenge its validity. At the risk of having storm troopers showing up at my door backed up by black helicopters, my opinion is that I think it's one of the more stupid things I've ever run into. The depths of idiocy has truly been plumbed in this exercise, especially since every single one of the 9-11 hijackers had perfectly valid US drivers licenses and would have no trouble getting through current airport security. I could rant at length on this, and there isn't a damn thing that the government can ^#$$(*#&^$ NO CARRIER From dwvbo91q4001 at sneakemail.com Fri Mar 4 06:40:55 2005 From: dwvbo91q4001 at sneakemail.com (Tim P) Date: Fri Mar 4 01:45:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 JohnL wrote in news:Xns960DD687164FFjohnlspamcopnet@216.154.195.61: > > http://xnews.newsguy.com/ > Works quite well, once one can figgur it out. - -- Tim P Very content SpamCop Subscriber since 4/2002 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.0.2 - not licensed for commercial use: www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBQigC5/kOwY5RskHOEQJc3QCghuuAjWjjE9udSsfMbixK24CqSmwAoOQ4 jFeMZNMUQY74WpM69VI99sC1 =TkxL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 23:09:23 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Don Wannit) Date: Fri Mar 4 02:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: interesting article In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Socks the Whitehouse Cat wrote: > Don Wannit wrote in > news:d08p9q$4gf$1@news.spamcop.net: >> >>The photo ID requirement allows the airlines to pocket money paid >>for tickets with no value (travel) given in return. Only the very >>naive would think the airlines would not jump at the chance to use >>a nebulous, undocumented "security directive" to enhance their >>bottom line. >> >> > > > Gilmore is suing over this. apparently there is a national security > directive, but the directive is so secret the government can't produce it, > or the reasons for it, in the open court so that his lawyers can challenge > its validity. Yes, that's the claim that the airlines are making, that they are following a directive that they can't reveal. OK, right. Yup. The same airlines that make all kinds of restrictions and hoops to jump through (Saturday night stay, more than 5 days, less than 14, no backtracking, after full moon, must wear red, etc.) are saying that it's not their choice to require a photo ID with name matching the preprinted-and-can't-be-changed-or-transferred ticket. No, of course not. Right. Suuuure. Uh huh. John's a friend of mine, going back to 1982 and the original Sun days. And I'm rooting for him. This case might make enough of a splash so as to attract the attention of people who can actually influence the policies. The Supreme Court, unfortunately, probably is not among them. This is part of the problem we're facing these days, in this country and in the rest of the world that has to live with cleaning up our mess. > > At the risk of having storm troopers showing up at my door backed up by > black helicopters, my opinion is that I think it's one of the more stupid > things I've ever run into. The depths of idiocy has truly been plumbed in > this exercise, especially since every single one of the 9-11 hijackers had > perfectly valid US drivers licenses and would have no trouble getting > through current airport security. I could rant at length on this, and > there isn't a damn thing that the government can ^#$$(*#&^$ NO CARRIER Socks? Socks? Hello? Meow? Are you there? Oh no!!! They've got Socks! From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Mar 4 09:20:54 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Mar 4 09:20:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: SHHH! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d082ug$jd9$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Was the Fred Durst sex video part of the same hack or was his own sidekick > hacked? Heard about it on talk radio the other day, the snarky hosts were > very uncomplimentary about his current beer belly and "lack of unit > size".....but from what I know he's this big womanizer? With a wee little > thingy? Something ain't quite right.....but if you ask me the guy is just > damn gross, but he does have this big rep with celeb women.... Blechh...... From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Mar 4 09:29:09 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Mar 4 09:30:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: Heidz wrote: >> >> Really? Surely it can't be that difficult for someone of your >> supposed intellect?! I haven't checked it out yet... if it seems >> impossible I'll report back LOL >> > I'm with him, I think it was xnews that I tried, and I think if I > can't figure it out without reading the directions, it's too hard! Several of us tried it when the troll started flooding the groups (before we figured out how to install Nfilter) and found it so different from OE that we couldn't get it set up to our satisfaction. There was a thread in .geeks about it, and someone using it admitted it's a bit *nixish...... From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Mar 4 09:31:18 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Mar 4 09:30:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Speaking of ID's and security References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message > news:d07oui$c12$1@news.spamcop.net... > >> That's actually very smart, I think. I always fly wearing jeans, no >> polyester that might melt in a fire, and wearing shoes that I can >> run in if I need to escape a plane or something. I'm quite paranoid >> about that, never understood how women can fly wearing suits and >> three inch heels. I'm ready for action! > > Oh hell yeah, my clothes are comfortable and I wear sneakers. I don't > want to have something on my feet that might stop me exiting, or come > off in a melee. Well, admit it, neither of you are exactly high-powered businesswomen out on a one day business trip! From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Mar 4 09:34:54 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Mar 4 09:35:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: SHHH! References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > Maybe his technique(s) in bed are what win them over? Certainly he > ain't any sort of a hunk. Surely a good tongue can't be sufficient! From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Mar 4 09:35:54 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Mar 4 09:35:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: food for thought References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message >> Finally! A professor who recognizes how important golf is to a happy >> life! ;-) > > LOL.. I was going to make some comment about you not taking it as an > endorsement of golf but I forgot Too Late! :-P From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Mar 4 09:50:01 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Mar 4 09:50:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Praise the God of Good Things... Message-ID: Martha is free and all is right with the world! In case anyone's thinking house arrest will be torture, take a look at the photos of her new estate (photo gallery on the right), with her gigantic barn and greenhouse. I'm beginning to hate her all over again... http://www.newsday.com/news/local/state/ny-martha0304,0,3133059.story?coll=ny-statenews-headlines http://tinyurl.com/6jzw8 From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Mar 4 09:52:05 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Mar 4 09:55:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d09r50$u8t$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Several of us tried it when the troll started flooding the groups (before we > figured out how to install Nfilter) and found it so different from OE that > we couldn't get it set up to our satisfaction. There was a thread in .geeks > about it, and someone using it admitted it's a bit *nixish...... Maybe you can help S'kat with her installation, I've tried having her duplicate my settings and can't seem to figure out why hers won't filter anything. There's a missing step somewhere. From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Mar 4 09:53:06 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Mar 4 09:55:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Speaking of ID's and security References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d09r91$ua2$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Well, admit it, neither of you are exactly high-powered businesswomen out on > a one day business trip! Harrumph....how do YOU know. I'm quite high powered, actually..... :) From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Mar 4 10:01:33 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Mar 4 10:00:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > > Maybe you can help S'kat with her installation, I've tried having her > duplicate my settings and can't seem to figure out why hers won't > filter anything. There's a missing step somewhere. Does she have it turned on? ;-) From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Mar 4 10:04:04 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Mar 4 10:05:23 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d09t1o$vfv$1@news.spamcop.net... > Spamvireslayer wrote: > > > > Maybe you can help S'kat with her installation, I've tried having her > > duplicate my settings and can't seem to figure out why hers won't > > filter anything. There's a missing step somewhere. > > Does she have it turned on? ;-) Dunno, I think so - that's tripped me up a couple of times when I forgot to start it, but that usually gives you an error message that it can't connect to the server. From johnl at spamcop.net Fri Mar 4 15:07:24 2005 From: johnl at spamcop.net (JohnL) Date: Fri Mar 4 10:10:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:d09r50$u8t$1@news.spamcop.net: > Several of us tried it when the troll started flooding the groups > (before we figured out how to install Nfilter) and found it so > different from OE that we couldn't get it set up to our satisfaction. > There was a thread in .geeks about it, and someone using it admitted > it's a bit *nixi "nixi"?? I don't touch nixi at all, makes my brain freeze. But I do like Xnews. Tho it took me quite some time to figure it out. I installed and uninstalled it a few times out of frustration, but now would never give it up. From rcarlton at spamcop.net Fri Mar 4 09:49:24 2005 From: rcarlton at spamcop.net (Rick Carlton) Date: Fri Mar 4 12:50:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: God's Back with a Vengeance In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Rick Carlton wrote: > But - email my posting address with a valid reply address and I'll send > it privately. I keep checking my mailbox.... I will concede that it is "easier" not to know what's going on around you. But that same self-imposed isolation somewhat takes away from credible discourse. From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Fri Mar 4 13:04:12 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Pop) Date: Fri Mar 4 13:05:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: food for thought References: Message-ID: OK, you are NOT allowed to post things like that without saying who wrote it! How can I plagiarize it if I don't know who I'm plagiarizing? Seriously, is that yours? I know you'd never know, but I want to add it to an alumni web page I manage. It'd be neat if I could give a statement of the origin other than "from spamcop". I've heard it before in various forms, but I like this one. Threat: If you don't give me the author of that piece, I will plagiarize it anyway. Drop the author's name and permission to violate his copyright to the 45 gal barrel located at the corner of 37 & 68, near the W road, just before McIlwee and Irish, in the third home from the fifth culvert, after the second business, counted from the seventh telephone pole from the Skiekieski-dulch-Rivet/Couga mailbox, or see your entire writing in public at the HCS Alumni Mostly on the Web web site, otherwise known as HAMW!. Help stamp out plagiarizism! Pop --- I make well decisions, and I talk English very good. Pleese rwighte sewen. "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d07ooj$bte$1@news.spamcop.net... > Apologies if something funky happens with the line breaks (for some reason > they're not wrapping but they should do when you read it).A professor > stood > before his philosophy class and had some items in front of him. When the > class began, wordlessly, he picked up a very large and empty mayonnaise > jar > and proceeded to fill it with golf balls.He then asked the students if the ... See original post for full content. From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Fri Mar 4 13:09:37 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Pop) Date: Fri Mar 4 13:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Diplomat Suspect in Internet Child Predator Case Flees US References: <7c2a21998cj9dq7fn6aalkmj45126pooma@4ax.com> Message-ID: ... > A deputy sheriff goes online in teen chat rooms posing as a young girl > or boy and chats with pedophiles. They have been very successful in > arresting men trying to meet the young girl or boy they have been > chatting with. In all cases, then men have come to Bedford from quite > some distances to carry out their schemes. Where's that poster who wanted to know how spam could possible be profitable? This could make a great analogy! Pop From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Mar 4 13:40:35 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Mar 4 13:40:36 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: food for thought References: Message-ID: "Pop" wrote in message news:d0a7ul$8ba$1@news.spamcop.net... > OK, you are NOT allowed to post things like that without saying who wrote > Help stamp out plagiarizism! ...and bad spelling! From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Mar 4 13:59:50 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Mar 4 14:00:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: >> >> Does she have it turned on? ;-) > > Dunno, I think so - that's tripped me up a couple of times when I > forgot to start it, but that usually gives you an error message that > it can't connect to the server. Why isn't it in your startup group? Set'n'forget. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Mar 4 14:02:51 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Mar 4 14:00:21 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: JohnL wrote: > "indigo" wrote in > news:d09r50$u8t$1@news.spamcop.net: > >> Several of us tried it when the troll started flooding the groups >> (before we figured out how to install Nfilter) and found it so >> different from OE that we couldn't get it set up to our satisfaction. >> There was a thread in .geeks about it, and someone using it admitted >> it's a bit *nixi > > "nixi"?? > I don't touch nixi at all, makes my brain freeze. Somebody trimmed incorrectly....JOHN.....I said it was "*nixish......" > But I do like Xnews. Tho it took me quite some time to figure it out. > I installed and uninstalled it a few times out of frustration, but > now would never give it up. Yeah. That sounds about right. Less frustrating than simply marking threads as read? Doubt it :-P From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Mar 4 14:07:51 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Mar 4 14:10:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d0ab0a$amo$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Why isn't it in your startup group? Set'n'forget. > Control freak - with all the problems I've had lately I don't want things starting in the background, even the damn screen saver loads before anything else, and after a crash reboot, the scandisk starts and restarts about a hundred times because the screen saver is running. GRR. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Mar 4 15:01:09 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Mar 4 15:00:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:d0ab0a$amo$1@news.spamcop.net... >> >> Why isn't it in your startup group? Set'n'forget. >> > Control freak - with all the problems I've had lately I don't want > things starting in the background, even the damn screen saver loads > before anything else, and after a crash reboot, the scandisk starts > and restarts about a hundred times because the screen saver is > running. GRR. 1: Why the hell do you have scandisk set to run after a crash? Turn the damned thing off! 2: Why the hell do you use a screensaver in this day and age? Just curious ;-) From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Mar 4 15:08:11 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Mar 4 15:10:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d0aej9$dg8$1@news.spamcop.net... > > 1: Why the hell do you have scandisk set to run after a crash? Turn the > damned thing off! > How do I do that? Didn't know I could... > 2: Why the hell do you use a screensaver in this day and age? > > Just curious ;-) What would I use? The off button? From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Mar 4 15:19:48 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Mar 4 15:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:d0aej9$dg8$1@news.spamcop.net... >> >> 1: Why the hell do you have scandisk set to run after a crash? Turn >> the damned thing off! >> > How do I do that? Didn't know I could... > BIOS setting, IIRC...... >> 2: Why the hell do you use a screensaver in this day and age? >> >> Just curious ;-) > > What would I use? The off button? Depends. You trying to hide what's on your monitor or what? From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Fri Mar 4 16:34:43 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Fri Mar 4 16:35:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: God's Back with a Vengeance References: Message-ID: "Rick Carlton" wrote in message news:d0a735$794$1@news.spamcop.net... > Rick Carlton wrote: > > > But - email my posting address with a valid reply address and I'll send > > it privately. > > > I keep checking my mailbox.... > > I will concede that it is "easier" not to know what's going on around you. > > But that same self-imposed isolation somewhat takes away from credible > discourse. She starts out rational, but then..... We'll know better next time. Miss Betsy From kenbrody at spamcop.net Fri Mar 4 16:34:15 2005 From: kenbrody at spamcop.net (Kenneth Brody) Date: Fri Mar 4 16:35:22 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: interesting article References: Message-ID: <4228D457.ADF8A662@spamcop.net> Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > http://www.postgazette.com/pg/05058/462446.stm > > It gets most interesting after the half way point, IMO. I hope this guy > manages to get some things changed. Umm... He was employee No. 5 at Sun Microsystems, which made Unix, the free software of the Web, the world standard. Sun did not make Unix. Unix is not Free. Unix is not related to the Web. And Unix is not the world standard. I assume they meant "Java", and not "Unix", but that only partially fits the entire description. -- +-------------------------+--------------------+-----------------------------+ | Kenneth J. Brody | www.hvcomputer.com | | | kenbrody/at\spamcop.net | www.fptech.com | #include | +-------------------------+--------------------+-----------------------------+ Don't e-mail me at: From pete+usenet at heypete.com Fri Mar 4 13:44:04 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Fri Mar 4 16:45:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Why Is Spam So Bad References: Message-ID: In article , "I Love Spam" wrote: > Anyone that thinks spam is bad is an idiot. Spam is interesting. Has lots > of useful information that you wouldn't normally know about. I know this is a troll, but I just *have* to respond. :) ... What useful information could I possibly get from spam? Oh, wait. Here's quite a few useful things I've recently learned: 1) How to properly tune filters to deal with ~500,000 emails per day. To me. Personally. 2) How to learn to deal with very large numbers. Specifically those involving the disk, CPU, and bandwidth requirements for a mail server. (My personal email takes up more bandwidth than hosting the heypete.com website.) 3) How to increase the volume of my sperm/have errections on command. Look -- I'm 22. That particular part of my body has absolutely no problems functioning. In fact, it's suffering from disuse. (Yes, that's possibly Too Much Information. Oh well.) I have no need of artificial (or even "herbal") chemicals to get it "working". 4) How to increase my breast size. While breasts are indeed nice, they look ever so much better on the female body. If I were inclined to get breasts, drinking lots of beer and eating tons of pizza would do the trick...as well as being a lot more fun in the process. 5) The extreme frustration of accidentally blocking/rejecting/deleting a legitimate message because either myself or the filters mistakenly took it to be spam. ... That's pretty much all I've really ever learned from spam. I'm not sure if it's particularly useful, but it's definitely wasting some neurons in my brain. -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Mar 4 17:45:41 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Fri Mar 4 17:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: God's Back with a Vengeance References: Message-ID: "Miss Betsy" | She starts out rational, but then..... | | We'll know better next time. | Some of us have hope eternal but eventually even eternity runs down. (entropy, etc.) From nospam at bisusa.com Fri Mar 4 16:51:37 2005 From: nospam at bisusa.com (JerryMouse) Date: Fri Mar 4 17:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Praise the God of Good Things... References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > Martha is free and all is right with the world! In case anyone's > thinking house > arrest will be torture, take a look at the photos of her new estate > (photo gallery on > the right), with her gigantic barn and greenhouse. I'm beginning to > hate her all > over again... > > http://www.newsday.com/news/local/state/ny-martha0304,0,3133059.story?coll=ny-statenews-headlines > http://tinyurl.com/6jzw8 Hate? Envy, maybe. Certainly admiration. She earned (almost) every penny. Doesn't it bother you that, while the government can lie to you and me, Martha got convicted for lying to the government? From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Mar 4 15:53:12 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Mar 4 18:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] woo hooo! I have F1 again! Message-ID: Hey Indi, I can't wait to see my first F1 race in for EVER this weekend. In fact I have it all set to record the qualifying this evening as I'll be out. I'm dancing around in my excitement LOL. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Mar 4 15:55:15 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Mar 4 19:00:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: SHHH! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d09rfp$ufc$1@news.spamcop.net... > Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > > > > Maybe his technique(s) in bed are what win them over? Certainly he > > ain't any sort of a hunk. > > Surely a good tongue can't be sufficient! LOL From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Mar 4 15:57:00 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Mar 4 19:00:19 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Clock police! References: Message-ID: "Porpoise" wrote in message news:d08a96$ok2$1@news.spamcop.net... > Well, if you're going to be precise, there never was such a country - it was > a "union" of several countries. Much the same as the USA is a "group" of > states - not A state. The states are united. Ergo they are one nation (under god, indivisible, with freedom and justice for all (LOL)). From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Mar 4 15:57:57 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Mar 4 19:00:29 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "Heidz" wrote in message news:d08dos$qs0$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:d085rr$lf5$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > "indigo" wrote in message > > news:d081op$ijj$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > I tried Xnews and found it so difficult to navigate I gave up within > an > > hour > > > or so...... > > > > Really? Surely it can't be that difficult for someone of your supposed > > intellect?! I haven't checked it out yet... if it seems impossible I'll > > report back LOL > > > I'm with him, I think it was xnews that I tried, and I think if I can't > figure it out without reading the directions, it's too hard! ROFL.. I have to confess that I'm much the same way. Things have to be intuitive or I get very cross. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Mar 4 15:59:22 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Mar 4 19:00:34 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: God's Back with a Vengeance References: Message-ID: "Miss Betsy" wrote in message news:d08e95$rbs$1@news.spamcop.net... > The reason that I vow > not to answer anything is And yet you keep on answering... so much for your vows huh?! From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Mar 4 16:02:00 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Mar 4 19:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: interesting article References: Message-ID: "Don Wannit" wrote in message news:d091j5$9r0$1@news.spamcop.net... > John's a friend of mine, going back to 1982 and the original Sun days. > And I'm rooting for him. This case might make enough of a splash so > as to attract the attention of people who can actually influence the > policies. The Supreme Court, unfortunately, probably is not among > them. This is part of the problem we're facing these days, in this > country and in the rest of the world that has to live with cleaning > up our mess. this is my thought and hope too... slim though that chance is in today's America From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Mar 4 16:02:58 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Mar 4 19:05:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Speaking of ID's and security References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d09r91$ua2$1@news.spamcop.net... > Well, admit it, neither of you are exactly high-powered businesswomen out on > a one day business trip! LOL, this is true. But also admit that it's not only high powered businesswomen who wear ridiculous shoes onboard aircraft! From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Mar 4 16:04:32 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Mar 4 19:05:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d09t1o$vfv$1@news.spamcop.net... > Spamvireslayer wrote: > > > > Maybe you can help S'kat with her installation, I've tried having her > > duplicate my settings and can't seem to figure out why hers won't > > filter anything. There's a missing step somewhere. > > Does she have it turned on? ;-) *narrows eyes at Indi* Actually I uninstalled it as I got fed up and (hopefully coincidentally) I got hit by a trojan horse (computer had been hooked up to the internet without a firewall for a couple of hours and Norton apparently failed to do its job). Since then I didn't try to reinstall NewsPoxy. (r left out deliberately LOL) From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Mar 4 16:06:51 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Mar 4 19:10:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: food for thought References: Message-ID: "Pop" wrote in message news:d0a7ul$8ba$1@news.spamcop.net... > OK, you are NOT allowed to post things like that without saying who wrote > it! How can I plagiarize it if I don't know who I'm plagiarizing? > > Seriously, is that yours? I know you'd never know, but I want to add it to > an alumni web page I manage. It'd be neat if I could give a statement of > the origin other than "from spamcop". I've heard it before in various > forms, but I like this one. > > Threat: If you don't give me the author of that piece, I will plagiarize it > anyway. Drop the author's name and permission to violate his copyright to > the 45 gal barrel located at the corner of 37 & 68, near the W road, just > before McIlwee and Irish, in the third home from the fifth culvert, after > the second business, counted from the seventh telephone pole from the > Skiekieski-dulch-Rivet/Couga mailbox, or see your entire writing in public > at the HCS Alumni Mostly on the Web web site, otherwise known as HAMW!. > > Help stamp out plagiarizism! Sorry dude, that's pretty much how I received it in an email yesterday. However I did remove all the nasty >>>> from it having been forwarded 50 times LOL. So use it and take a risk. Make an oblique thank you to whoever may have written it and leave it at that. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Mar 4 16:08:31 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Mar 4 19:10:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d0aej9$dg8$1@news.spamcop.net... > 2: Why the hell do you use a screensaver in this day and age? > > Just curious ;-) maybe she still has a CRT monitor? From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Mar 4 16:09:30 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Mar 4 19:10:20 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: interesting article References: <4228D457.ADF8A662@spamcop.net> Message-ID: "Kenneth Brody" wrote in message news:4228D457.ADF8A662@spamcop.net... > Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > > > http://www.postgazette.com/pg/05058/462446.stm > > > > It gets most interesting after the half way point, IMO. I hope this guy > > manages to get some things changed. > > Umm... > > He was employee No. 5 at Sun Microsystems, which made Unix, the free > software of the Web, the world standard. > > Sun did not make Unix. Unix is not Free. Unix is not related to the Web. > And Unix is not the world standard. > > I assume they meant "Java", and not "Unix", but that only partially fits > the entire description. I suggest you write to the Post Gazette and point out their errors since doing so here will not achieve much! From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Fri Mar 4 19:26:49 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Fri Mar 4 19:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: God's Back with a Vengeance References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d0asop$m9h$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Miss Betsy" wrote in message > news:d08e95$rbs$1@news.spamcop.net... > > The reason that I vow > > not to answer anything is > > And yet you keep on answering... so much for your vows huh?! Isn't there a song, "never again, again."? Miss Betsy From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Mar 4 19:56:59 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Mar 4 19:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Why Is Spam So Bad References: Message-ID: Pete Stephenson wrote: > > 3) How to increase the volume of my sperm/have errections on command. > Look -- I'm 22. That particular part of my body has absolutely no > problems functioning. In fact, it's suffering from disuse. There's some spam that can cure that problem! (albeit on your own ;-) From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Mar 4 19:59:00 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Mar 4 20:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: woo hooo! I have F1 again! References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > Hey Indi, I can't wait to see my first F1 race in for EVER this > weekend. In fact I have it all set to record the qualifying this > evening as I'll be out. I'm dancing around in my excitement LOL. You going to Australia? KEWL!!!! ;-) I too, was excited to see in the sports pages that F1 started this weekend. But I thought you didn't get Speedvision? From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Mar 4 20:03:56 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Mar 4 20:05:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: >> >> Does she have it turned on? ;-) > > *narrows eyes at Indi* > Moi? Queest-ce que j'ai dit ? > Actually I uninstalled it as I got fed up and (hopefully > coincidentally) I got hit by a trojan horse Ouch! That must have hurt! (I finally saw Troy today ;-) >Since then I didn't try to > reinstall NewsPoxy. (r left out deliberately LOL) Who's this "r" person? And why didn't they reinstall NP? From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Fri Mar 4 20:04:46 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Fri Mar 4 20:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d0at9u$mq3$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "indigo" wrote in message > news:d0aej9$dg8$1@news.spamcop.net... > > 2: Why the hell do you use a screensaver in this day and age? > > > > Just curious ;-) > > maybe she still has a CRT monitor? > Yuh huh..... From pete+usenet at heypete.com Fri Mar 4 18:35:52 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Fri Mar 4 21:40:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Why Is Spam So Bad References: Message-ID: In article , "indigo" wrote: > There's some spam that can cure that problem! (albeit on your own ;-) Oh, dear god. I thing I would laugh quite heartily if I got viagra spam right next to anti-viagra spam. :) -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Fri Mar 4 21:55:33 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (LadySarah) Date: Fri Mar 4 22:00:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Praise the God of Good Things... References: Message-ID: "JerryMouse" wrote in message news:d0aopn$k56$1@news.spamcop.net... >> >> http://www.newsday.com/news/local/state/ny-martha0304,0,3133059.story?coll=ny-statenews-headlines >> http://tinyurl.com/6jzw8 > > Hate? Envy, maybe. Certainly admiration. She earned (almost) every penny. > > Doesn't it bother you that, while the government can lie to you and me, > Martha got convicted for lying to the government? It bothers me. I think Martha got a raw deal. They couldn't convict her of insider trading so they accused her of lieing about not doing it. How doesn't that get a conviction except that people hate the rich woman. Lady Sarah From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Sat Mar 5 09:18:27 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Sat Mar 5 09:15:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: God's Back with a Vengeance References: Message-ID: Replying to "Mr K. Mean" here because line too long. > Miss Betsy wrote: > > Isn't there a song, "never again, again."? > > Isn't that basically most country music songs? Or one of the various > stages of grieving about a broken heart and a scheming cheating lover. Yes, I think it is a country music song about a woman who is giving a cheating lover another chance. I like country music (don't like so much what they call country now). Miss Betsy -- "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d0asop$m9h$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Miss Betsy" wrote in message > news:d08e95$rbs$1@news.spamcop.net... > > The reason that I vow > > not to answer anything is > > And yet you keep on answering... so much for your vows huh?! > > From devnull at spamcop.net Sat Mar 5 09:15:51 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sat Mar 5 09:40:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] For all you wanna be RedNecks -- Looking for Love in All the Wrong Places References: Message-ID: Finally! http://www.redneckandsingle.com (As featured on CNN Headline News.) From devnull at spamcop.net Sat Mar 5 09:20:37 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sat Mar 5 09:40:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] FYI Origiin of "Redneck" References: <1110017163.483447.11190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: FYI from another group. By Todd J. Wilkinson Many words commonly used in America today such as Hillbillies and Rednecks have their origins in our Scottish roots. While the following three terms are associated today with the American South and southern culture, their origins are distinctly Scottish and Ulster-Scottish (Scots-Irish), and date to the mass immigration of Scottish Lowland and Ulster Presbyterians to America during the 1700's. HILLBILLY The origin of this American nickname for mountain folk in the Ozarks and in Appalachia comes from Ulster. Ulster-Scottish (The often incorrectly labeled "Scots-Irish") settlers in the hill-country of Appalachia brought their traditional music with them to the new world, and many of their songs and ballads dealt with William, Prince of Orange, who defeated the Catholic King James II of the Stuart family at the Battle of the Boyne, Ireland in 1690. William of Orange The signing of the National Covenant, Greyfriar's Kirkyard, 1638 Supporters of King William were known as "Orangemen" and "Billy Boys" and their North American counterparts were soon referred to as "hill-billies". It is interesting to note that a traditional song of the Glasgow Rangers football club today begins with the line, "Hurrah! Hurrah! We are the Billy Boys!" and shares its tune with the famous American Civil War song, "Marching Through Georgia". Stories abound of American National Guard units from Southern states being met upon disembarking in Britain during the First and Second World Wars with the tune, much to their displeasure! One of these stories comes from Colonel Ward Schrantz, a noted historian, Carthage Missouri native, and veteran of the Mexican Border Campaign, as well as the First and Second World Wars, documented a story where the US Army's 30th Division, made up of National Guard units from Georgia, North and South Carolina and Tennessee arrived in the United Kingdom..."a waiting British band broke into welcoming American music, and the soldiery, even the 118th Field Artillery and the 105 Medical Battalion from Georgia, broke into laughter. The excellence of intent and the ignorance of the origins of the American music being equally obvious. The welcoming tune was "Marching Through Georgia." REDNECK The origins of this term are Scottish and refer to supporters of the National Covenant and The Solemn League and Covenant, or "Covenanters", largely Lowland Presbyterians, many of whom would flee Scotland for Ulster (Northern Ireland) during persecutions by the British Crown. The Covenanters of 1638 and 1641 signed the documents that stated that Scotland desired the Presbyterian form of church government and would not accept the Church of England as its official state church. Many Covenanters signed in their own blood and wore red pieces of cloth around their necks as distinctive insignia; hence the term "Red neck", which became slang for a Scottish dissenter*. One Scottish immigrant, interviewed by the author, remembered a Presbyterian minister, one Dr. Coulter, in Glasgow in the 1940's wearing a red clerical collar -- is this symbolic of the "rednecks"? Since many Ulster-Scottish settlers in America (especially the South) were Presbyterian, the term was applied to them, and then, later, their Southern descendants. One of the earliest examples of its use comes from 1830, when an author noted that "red-neck" was a "name bestowed upon the Presbyterians." It makes you wonder if the originators of the ever-present "redneck" joke are aware of the term's origins? *Another term for Presbyterians in Ireland was a "Blackmouth". Members of the Church of Ireland (Anglicans) used this as a slur, referring to the fact that one could tell a Presbyterian by the black stains around his mouth from eating blackberries while at secret, illegal Presbyterian Church Services in the countryside. CRACKER Another Ulster-Scot term, a "cracker" was a person who talked and boasted, and "craic" (Crack) is a term still used in Scotland and Ireland to describe "talking", chat or conversation in a social sense ("Let's go down to the pub and have a craic"; "what's the craic"). The term, first used to describe a southerner of Ulster-Scottish background, later became a nickname for any white southerner, especially those who were uneducated. And while not an exclusively Southern term, but rather referring in general to all Americans, the origins of this word are related to the other three. From nobody at spamcop.net Sat Mar 5 12:20:23 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Sat Mar 5 12:20:16 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Clock police! References: Message-ID: Mr K. Mean wrote: > It seems like the USSR was much more tightly centrally controlled from > the beginning. That would seem to explain so many of the current > problems and tensions now with many of the republics that quickly > broke away when the USSR fell apart. These were regions with widely > divergent racial and cultural groups compared to that of Russia where > much of the centralized power was located during the Soviet era. > These regions didn't really 'fit' with the rest of the republics but > there wasn't really a way to express these differences under the > overall Soviet power. Maybe a bit like a divorce, later you think, > damn, what did I ever see in her? Ehrm, IIRC most of the USSR was "volunteered" into the Union against their will...... From hee.haw at jack.ass Sat Mar 5 17:56:30 2005 From: hee.haw at jack.ass (DC) Date: Sat Mar 5 18:00:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Assicons... Message-ID: (_!_) a regular ass (__!__) a fat ass (!) a tight ass (_*_) a sore ass {_!_} a swishy ass (_o_) an ass that's been around ..oo*"""**oo.oo*""*oo.. oo*" "*o.o*" "*o. o o *o ..o o 'o o o o. o o o o \o/ o o --0-- o o. /o\ o o o o o o o o o oo oo o oo oo. oo oo 'ooo. oo. ooo o ""oo,, ,,oO-'Oo, ,,,,,oo"o o. """""" oo """"" o 'o oo o' o oo o 'o o o* o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o -- Paris Hilton uses one of these... http://tinyurl.com/z6uc From hee.haw at jack.ass Sat Mar 5 18:00:06 2005 From: hee.haw at jack.ass (DC) Date: Sat Mar 5 18:00:29 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Curly Soprano? Message-ID: Hey Moe! http://www.dwacon.com/stooges.html From nobody at spamcop.net Sat Mar 5 16:16:14 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat Mar 5 19:20:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: woo hooo! I have F1 again! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d0b01v$oa0$1@news.spamcop.net... > Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > Hey Indi, I can't wait to see my first F1 race in for EVER this > > weekend. In fact I have it all set to record the qualifying this > > evening as I'll be out. I'm dancing around in my excitement LOL. > > You going to Australia? KEWL!!!! ;-) In mind, if not in body. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I too, was excited to see in the sports pages that F1 started this weekend. > But I thought you didn't get Speedvision? We moved (again) and digital cable is (temporarily - for the remainder of this calendar year anyway) cheaper than any other option so we've got that, hence Speed channel. The fight over F1 seems to be hotting up though so who knows what'll happen in 2007. From nobody at spamcop.net Sat Mar 5 16:20:27 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat Mar 5 19:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d0b0b8$ocl$1@news.spamcop.net... > Sylvesterthekat wrote: > >> > >> Does she have it turned on? ;-) > > > > *narrows eyes at Indi* > > > > Moi? Queest-ce que j'ai dit ? You know what you said. > > Actually I uninstalled it as I got fed up and (hopefully > > coincidentally) I got hit by a trojan horse > > Ouch! That must have hurt! (I finally saw Troy today ;-) Fortunately it didn't do any damage but I was rather pissed off with Norton. Did watching Troy hurt? Actually I quite enjoyed that movie. I got Zatioichi out today, supposedly a good one. > > >Since then I didn't try to > > reinstall NewsPoxy. (r left out deliberately LOL) > > Who's this "r" person? And why didn't they reinstall NP? Well I'd had so many problems trying to make the damn thing work that I just couldna be arsed. Besides, 'it' seems to have disappeared for now. If 'it' reappears I'll install XNews and see how I get on with that. From nobody at spamcop.net Sat Mar 5 16:23:19 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat Mar 5 19:25:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Speaking of ID's and security References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" <83vgwcn02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:d0bveh$9o2$1@news.spamcop.net... > I always thought it was funny, like my mother would always want us to > dress up when you fly. Which seems so silly. I'm not out to impress my > fellow passengers with my fashion sense. (Well, ok, I have none.) But > comfort is the key for me there. And layers, you can go from way too > hot to way too cold in minutes, I need to be able to work with that, and > like a nice fleece jacket can make a great pillow. Yeah, I'm with you all the way on that. Even in summer I take some sort of jacket, especially if it's an overnight flight. > > But I'm getting ready for some long flights here next month. The > flights back are going to be a killer, like 18 hours with the flight > time and the time changes. I'm really trying to figure out if I can > just go in my pajamas for that one. Just put me in a comfortable box > and wheel me around for a day and knock on the lid when we are there and > I can get out. Where ya going? Asia? You still living in the same place? The day they invent teleportation I'll be there. Well ok, the day they've perfected it and people don't end up all jumbled up with a fly or something at the other end LOL. From nobody at spamcop.net Sat Mar 5 16:25:32 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat Mar 5 19:30:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Clock police! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d0cphv$nos$1@news.spamcop.net... >Maybe a bit like a divorce, later you think, > > damn, what did I ever see in her? > > Ehrm, IIRC most of the USSR was "volunteered" into the Union against their > will...... You mean like an arranged marriage? ;o) From nobody at spamcop.net Sat Mar 5 16:27:10 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat Mar 5 19:30:16 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns96103778EC26FTheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > No way it was me! It was "Sylvesterthekat" ! > > > "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message > > news:Xns960DCA9E02BDDTheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > > >> I don't see any posts by JerryMouse, for example, > >> or cancels of said posts but I see all kinds of folks replying to him. > > > That one is easily explained. > > Um, ok, I'm waiting! I assumed you had him blocked LOL. If not, I have no clue. From nobody at spamcop.net Sat Mar 5 16:27:52 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat Mar 5 19:30:21 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Assicons... References: Message-ID: "DC" wrote in message news:d0ddel$25t$1@news.spamcop.net... > (_!_) a regular ass > > > (__!__) a fat ass > > > (!) a tight ass > > > (_*_) a sore ass > > > {_!_} a swishy ass > > > (_o_) an ass that's been around > > > > ..oo*"""**oo.oo*""*oo.. > oo*" "*o.o*" "*o. > o o *o > ..o o 'o > o o o. > o o o > o \o/ o > o --0-- o > o. /o\ o > o o o > o o o > o o oo > oo o oo > oo. oo oo > 'ooo. oo. ooo > o ""oo,, ,,oO-'Oo, ,,,,,oo"o > o. """""" oo """"" o > 'o oo o' > o oo o > 'o o o* > o o o > o o o > o o o > o o o > o o o > o o o LOL, thanks for sharing er.. I think! From devnull at spamcop.net Sat Mar 5 21:10:17 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sat Mar 5 21:15:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Truth (or a close proximity) is stranger than fixtion (sic) (C&C) References: <1110041355.304339.103430@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Client: "The website does not print out in color. Please fix the site." We later found out he only had a black and white printer. ------- On a video edit for Playtex the young client asks, "Can we use Helmet for the soundtrack?". Nothing like like Metal and tampons....... ------- Im a web developer So my boss asks for a login that the client can use to get an idea of the site, from a registered users perspective. So i email him -------------- qwert* (login) 12345* (pass) -------------- He comes back a day later and asks why the login doesnt work?!?! to which i reply "well show me how u r logging in..." i observe: ----------------- login: qwert12345 password: ----------------- me = O_o "oh", he says "u mean they have to be on diffent lines?" ------ More on the same lines: http://www.clientcopia.com/ From borgholio at storymind.com Sat Mar 5 21:44:16 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Sun Mar 6 00:45:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Bash.org Message-ID: http://www.bash.org/?latest TOTALLY C&C From devnull at spamcop.net Sun Mar 6 08:41:43 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sun Mar 6 08:55:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "Charles" | >> 2: Why the hell do you use a screensaver in this day and age? | | > maybe she still has a CRT monitor? | | Most modern CRTs don't need screensavers (to prevent burn in). Still, it | is nice to set power management so that they shut off when you're not using | them. | Anyway, ain't nuthin' wrong with a CRT. If you're paying the same price | for a CRT and an LCD you can get a MUCH better CRT. Heck, an LCD can't | touch CRT performance at any reasonable price! Yes, I know, the CRT is on | its way out and all, but I'll miss it when it's gone! In the meantime I've | got a Diamond Pro 920 and I'm EXTREMELY happy with it. My eyes are going | so I only use it at 1280x1024 but it works fine (well) up to 2048x1536. | How many millions does it cost to get an LCD with that much screen | resolution? Ok, it works perfectly at 1600x1200 and 85hz. Go on - what's | the minimum cost to get 1600x1200 on an LCD? Is it usable? For text? For | video? I didn't think so. Anyway, not less than $600 for one? I only | paid $400 for this thing - and it rocks! Ok, just for you I've read some | reviews of LCDs. They say that they're ok for the nicer ones. Of course, | they're also saying things like, "The best $1700 I ever spent!" Ha. And | ha ha. Most LCDs are like the crap that Dell and IBM sell and they suck | eggs. If you are doing serious color correction work a high quality CRT has it all over LCD (for the time being anyway) From hee.haw at jack.ass Sun Mar 6 10:02:59 2005 From: hee.haw at jack.ass (DC) Date: Sun Mar 6 10:05:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Former Korn Guitarist Baptized in Jordan River Message-ID: Former Korn Guitarist Baptized in Jordan River http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,149529,00.html Saturday, March 05, 2005 KIBBUTZ KINNERET, Israel — Former Korn guitarist Brian "Head" Welch (search) was baptized Saturday in the Jordan River, just weeks after quitting his band, drug habits and rock-and-roll lifestyle for religion. Welch, a founding member of the multi-platinum band, and about 20 other white-robed Christian pilgrims from a Bakersfield, Calif., church were immersed by their pastor, Ron Vietti. Welch said the ritual baptism had washed away his anger. "You know when you get angry and it builds up? I felt like hurting someone before; now I feel like hugging people," he said. Vietti said Welch — who has "Jesus" tattooed across his knuckles and "Matthew 11:28," tattooed prominently across his neck — already is attracting a new group of young people to the message of Christianity. "In recent weeks people have committed their lives to God because they're so inspired by his story," Vietti said. Korn announced Welch's resignation last month after 13 years with the band. Welch said he had become increasingly depressed and drug-addicted in recent years, but that religion helped him quit. He said he plans to release more music without the band. "My songs are God saying things to me, him talking to people. He's going to use me to heal people and people are going to be drawn to it, just watch, they will be," he said. Thousands of pilgrims are baptized annually in the Jordan River where, according to Biblical tradition, John the Baptist baptized Jesus. -------- I made magic once. Now the sofa is gone. http://www.dwacon.com From nobody at spamcop.net Sun Mar 6 12:41:01 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sun Mar 6 15:45:17 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns96114C505C482TheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > Most modern CRTs don't need screensavers (to prevent burn in). Still, it > is nice to set power management so that they shut off when you're not using > them. > Anyway, ain't nuthin' wrong with a CRT. If you're paying the same price > for a CRT and an LCD you can get a MUCH better CRT. Heck, an LCD can't > touch CRT performance at any reasonable price! Yes, I know, the CRT is on > its way out and all, but I'll miss it when it's gone! In the meantime I've > got a Diamond Pro 920 and I'm EXTREMELY happy with it. My eyes are going > so I only use it at 1280x1024 but it works fine (well) up to 2048x1536. > How many millions does it cost to get an LCD with that much screen > resolution? Ok, it works perfectly at 1600x1200 and 85hz. Go on - what's > the minimum cost to get 1600x1200 on an LCD? Is it usable? For text? For > video? I didn't think so. Anyway, not less than $600 for one? I only > paid $400 for this thing - and it rocks! Ok, just for you I've read some > reviews of LCDs. They say that they're ok for the nicer ones. Of course, > they're also saying things like, "The best $1700 I ever spent!" Ha. And > ha ha. Most LCDs are like the crap that Dell and IBM sell and they suck > eggs. Well, I have a Sony X82 LCD monitor, I think it's 18". We also have a Mitsubishi Diamond Plus 200 19" CRT monitor. The picture on the LCD is better than on the CRT. The LCD is very light, small and it can be placed on my glass desk which isn't possible with the CRT as it weighs about 70lbs. I also can't get that monster into either of the cars because it's so big. When we first got it the original one was a dud and we had to RENT a freakin' pickup truck to return it to the store to get a new one. My LCD cost about $900 as I recall. The CRT, which is a couple of years older, wasn't too far off that price at the time of purchase. I far prefer the LCD monitor. It has a bigger actual display because the whole screen is filled with the image whereas on the CRT there's a small border of black around the edges. I have a Radeon 9200 vga card and the max resolution is 1280x1024 and that's what I have it set to. I find that anything 'smaller' makes my eyes go funny. There are no dead pixels and you can play games on it just fine (if anything I need a better graphics card). So Charles, I don't know what your beef is about LCD monitors but I love 'em! From rcarlton at spamcop.net Sun Mar 6 12:57:35 2005 From: rcarlton at spamcop.net (Rick Carlton) Date: Sun Mar 6 16:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: God's Back with a Vengeance In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: LadySarah wrote: > I really feel sorry for you if you can identify with Phelps. He is a sick > individual with hate in his heart. No way to sugar coat that. Show me his > compassion. So tell me, when the WBC was closse to home - in Cleveland - were you there telling them to keep their hate out of your state? Were you there espousing the you ethics of tolerance and respect for differences? Here's a link you don't have to see an ad to read. http://www.accessnorthga.com/news/hall/newfullstory.asp?ID=89981 As well as the text. "Topeka protesters show up in Cleveland By Jerry Gunn CLEVELAND - A Topeka, Kansas anti-gay and lesbian group picketed near Truett-McConnell College Saturday in Cleveland, protesting against the Gay-Straight Alliance Club. Eight demonstrators from Westboro Baptist Church, six adults and two children, held up protest signs on the roadside near the college entrance as a heavy escort of Cleveland Police and State Troopers looked on. The group was barred from Truett-McConnell grounds because it is private property. Shirley Phelps-Roper held a bright neon painted sign that read "Thank God for 9-11" and claimed it was her duty to come to Cleveland. "You've got a bunch of lying false prophets that are running the churches around here and being paid to tell people that God loves them," Roper said. Another protester, Katherine Hockenbarger,claimed the 9-11 attack was divine retribution. "That was but a small sign of the doom of this nation," she said. "You can't live your life anyway you want to and expect to go to heaven." A Cleveland resident identifying herself only as Kim observed the group and their sign. "I'm not completely sure about that but as far as the club in our high school, no...no." The protesters came to Cleveland after a student group's effort to form a gay straight club at White County High School captured national headlines. The group scheduled demonstrations through the weekend at different locations around Cleveland and early Monday at the high school." From devnull at spamcop.net Sun Mar 6 19:55:55 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sun Mar 6 20:00:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] LCD/CRT was Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "Charles" | >| They say that they're ok for the nicer | >| ones. Of course, they're also saying things like, "The best $1700 I | >| ever spent!" | | > If you are doing serious color correction work a high quality CRT has | > it all over LCD (for the time being anyway) | | I understand that - at least, I understood that. Really, that quote is | pretty close to something I found where a graphic designer got rid of a | nice CRT and loves his $1700 LCD. Of course, wow, what you could do in | CRTs with $1700! The question come in, for that GA, is (s)he doing graphics work with a minor concern for color or is (s)he doing something like Photoshop where color is a very critical issue. For example that photographic rendition of your son was critical from the graphic artist POV but not as near so critical from a color rendition. My wife has a very nice G4 lap top with the large LCD screen that she loves. However she does the final review Photoshop work on a $1800.00 CRT that is calibrated for visual and sub calibrated for the specific printer hardware that will finish the job. (this to the point where she factors in the studio's light temperature) She has one client that has two of a particular printer model that she has independent calibration adjustments for each machine. From devnull at spamcop.net Sun Mar 6 20:19:29 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sun Mar 6 20:25:21 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: LCD/CRT was Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns9611CD99967D0TheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... | No way it was me! It was "Frog Prince" ! | | > "Charles" | > | >| what you could do in CRTs with $1700! | | > However she does the final review Photoshop work on a $1800.00 CRT | | Drat! I guess he'd have to take a second fiddle CRT, then :) From devnull at spamcop.net Sun Mar 6 20:20:41 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sun Mar 6 20:25:32 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: LCD/CRT was Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "Charles" | >| what you could do in CRTs with $1700! | | > However she does the final review Photoshop work on a $1800.00 CRT | | Drat! I guess he'd have to take a second fiddle CRT, then :) I can't see the difference myself but then I'm an engineer ..... From borgholio at storymind.com Sun Mar 6 22:06:44 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Mon Mar 7 01:10:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] CIA given power to deport suspects for purposes of torture Message-ID: Surprise, surprise. http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/03/06/cia.interrogation/index.html From borgholio at storymind.com Sun Mar 6 23:27:18 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Mon Mar 7 02:30:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] That's one hell of a pot-pie... Message-ID: http://www.linnsfruitbin.com/desc.php?cat_id=12&prod_id=313 From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Mar 7 07:57:51 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon Mar 7 08:05:17 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Clock police! References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" | >>It seems like the USSR was much more tightly centrally controlled from | >>the beginning. That would seem to explain so many of the current | >>problems and tensions now with many of the republics that quickly | >>broke away when the USSR fell apart. These were regions with widely | >>divergent racial and cultural groups compared to that of Russia where | >>much of the centralized power was located during the Soviet era. | >>These regions didn't really 'fit' with the rest of the republics but | >>there wasn't really a way to express these differences under the | >>overall Soviet power. Maybe a bit like a divorce, later you think, | >>damn, what did I ever see in her? | > | > Ehrm, IIRC most of the USSR was "volunteered" into the Union against their | > will...... | | Can I use that same argument? Honest, I was young and stupid and | delusional. And that's some how different now? Ok you get a yard pass on the young part. From i83vgwcn02 at sneakemail.com Mon Mar 7 14:59:21 2005 From: i83vgwcn02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Mon Mar 7 10:00:19 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Clock police! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > "Mr K. Mean" > | > | Can I use that same argument? Honest, I was young and stupid and > | delusional. > > And that's some how different now? Ok you get a yard pass on the young > part. Ouch, zing. That one's going to leave a mark. From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Mar 7 10:07:03 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon Mar 7 10:10:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Clock police! References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" | > | Can I use that same argument? Honest, I was young and stupid and | > | delusional. | > | > And that's some how different now? Ok you get a yard pass on the young | > part. | | Ouch, zing. That one's going to leave a mark. We now return to the old .social format. Let the zingering commence!!! From i83vgwcn02 at sneakemail.com Mon Mar 7 15:22:43 2005 From: i83vgwcn02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Mon Mar 7 10:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Clock police! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > "Mr K. Mean" > > | > | Ouch, zing. That one's going to leave a mark. > > We now return to the old .social format. Let the zingering commence!!! Somehow, you make it sound dirty when you say that. I'm not so sure I want to be zingered anymore. From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Mon Mar 7 15:12:57 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Mon Mar 7 10:30:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: CIA given power to deport suspects for purposes of torture References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:d0gr0n$sca$1@news.spamcop.net... > Surprise, surprise. > > http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/03/06/cia.interrogation/index.html Quelle surprise? So, just because it was sanctioned by the president makes it legal? From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Mar 7 10:31:20 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon Mar 7 10:45:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Clock police! References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" | > | Ouch, zing. That one's going to leave a mark. | > | > We now return to the old .social format. Let the zingering commence!!! | | Somehow, you make it sound dirty when you say that. I'm not so sure I | want to be zingered anymore. But but but we only abuse you because we love you. From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Mar 7 11:02:32 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Mon Mar 7 11:05:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" <83vgwcn02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:d0hb5d$4r0$2@news.spamcop.net... > > I used to use screen savers all the time. They were so cute and clever > and all that. But now they just annoy me. It is one of the first > things I do on a computer now, it can blank the screen after a while, > but it isn't allowed to draw cute pictures on the screen anymore. Hmmm..who's becoming a curmudgeon then... From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Mar 7 11:14:46 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Mon Mar 7 11:15:17 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Ah, the joys of being a rich old hippocryte Message-ID: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/aplocal_story.asp?category=6420&slug=Boeing%20CEO http://tinyurl.com/4mjo6 CHICAGO -- Boeing Co. abruptly forced out president and chief executive officer Harry Stonecipher for what the company said Monday was a violation of the company's code of business conduct stemming from a relationship the married, 68-year-old Stonecipher had with a female Boeing executive. The stunning ouster makes Stonecipher, who spent just 15 months in the top job, the second consecutive CEO to depart the Chicago-based airplane maker and defense contractor in disgrace. Stonecipher had been an outspoken advocate on behalf of adhering to ethical conduct and defending Boeing's code. "He let everyone know that even minor violations would not be tolerated, and when one does that you have to look at that standard," Platt said. From i83vgwcn02 at sneakemail.com Mon Mar 7 16:35:08 2005 From: i83vgwcn02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Mon Mar 7 11:40:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "Mr K. Mean" <83vgwcn02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message > news:d0hb5d$4r0$2@news.spamcop.net... > >>I used to use screen savers all the time. They were so cute and clever >>and all that. But now they just annoy me. It is one of the first >>things I do on a computer now, it can blank the screen after a while, >>but it isn't allowed to draw cute pictures on the screen anymore. > > Hmmm..who's becoming a curmudgeon then... Oh, I'm totally looking forward to being old enough to really get away with that. I'm totally going to be a grumpy old man (hey you damn kids, get out of my yard, I'm totally keeping your ball just to show you). Which by the way, was a pretty good BBC show, lots of old guys complaining about everything under the sun. The new grumpy old women show they are showing now just isn't quite as good for some reason. Like they seem to have more reason to really be grumpy and it just isn't as funny that way. From pete+usenet at heypete.com Mon Mar 7 08:36:11 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Mon Mar 7 11:40:26 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] I hate gun shows. :/ Message-ID: Don't get me wrong -- they're fun to go to. Sure, there's some kooks wandering around, but there's also really funny stuff[1]. Great deals can be had, but one must watch out for junk. I went looking for some tools and some ammo, and found both. I needed a brass/steel hammer with steel punches for driving out some pins to clean certain parts. $35 later, I was carrying a set of such tools around. I also picked up a few "soft" rifle cases, as the hard case I have is a pain to wedge into my tiny hybrid car when going to the range. The soft cases are much better. I also picked up 2,140 rounds of ammunition[2], which caused my little car to sit significantly lower at the rear. Note to self: Next time I go to the show, leave the credit cards at home and pay solely in cash. By limiting how much cash I bring, I can limit how much I spend much more effectively. Alas, things really seem to add up...which is why I hate the damned shows. :-P Note #2 to self: I need to pay off the credit card bill, then start saving money. :) [1] This one guy wanted to sell a rifle, but didn't want to pay the $80 fee for a table. Thus, he just slung the rifle on his back, put a wood dowel in the barrel, taped a sign with information (including details about it, the price, etc.) to the dowel, and walked around. Lots of people stopped him to ask about it. Very clever. [2] That is a very odd number, I know. The corrosive Yugoslavian surplus ammo for my new SKS consisted of a sealed can of 1,120 rounds. I'm mostly getting it for the stripper clips[3], but hey, the price was right. 1,000 rounds of 9mm and 20 rounds of Winchester .30-06 Supreme Ballistic Tips for next year's deer season (damn, those are expensive, nearly a dollar per shot). [3] Although the SKS has a very similar working mechanism to the AK-47, it is not fed by detachable magazines. Instead, one loads the rifle from the top using stripper clips charged with ten rounds each to load the 10-round fixed magazine. The clips are reusable, but I only have a few. The Yugo ammo comes with them, which is handy. -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Mar 7 11:36:48 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon Mar 7 11:40:31 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] How bout this? C&C Message-ID: I know we're to avoid the 's' word here but this is too much. www.spammer-mensa.org From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Mar 7 12:25:51 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Mar 7 12:25:17 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: woo hooo! I have F1 again! References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > We moved (again) and digital cable is (temporarily - for the > remainder of this calendar year anyway) cheaper than any other option > so we've got that, hence Speed channel. The fight over F1 seems to be > hotting up though so who knows what'll happen in 2007. I hope the fight over television rights heats up the action on the track! Sheesh, that was one boring race.....WTF is it with these new rules about no changing tires during the race and no changing engines between races? Those rules are guaranteed to lead to "save the car", not "win the race at all costs" racing! And what happened to Mikey? Started in the back and never moved up?! From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Mar 7 12:33:58 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Mar 7 12:35:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > Fortunately it didn't do any damage but I was rather pissed off with > Norton. Did watching Troy hurt? Actually I quite enjoyed that movie. > I got Zatioichi out today, supposedly a good one. > Norton sucks, thought you knew better than to use that piece'o'crap. Troy was quite good, I thought. > Well I'd had so many problems trying to make the damn thing work that > I just couldna be arsed. Besides, 'it' seems to have disappeared for > now. If 'it' reappears I'll install XNews and see how I get on with > that. Since I've tried both, I think you'll get NP up and running faster than you learn how to navigate Xnews........ From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Mar 7 12:35:00 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Mar 7 12:35:19 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: Charles wrote: > No way it was me! It was "indigo" ! > >> I tried Xnews and found it so difficult to navigate I gave up within >> an hour or so...... > > So you use MS software? Weird. Talk about impossible to navigate! > Oh, and there's always the inability to thread properly... Yup, that's one of the things I hated about Xnews! From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Mar 7 12:42:11 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Mar 7 12:40:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Clock police! References: Message-ID: Mr K. Mean wrote: Maybe a bit like a >>> divorce, later you think, damn, what did I ever see in her? >> >> Ehrm, IIRC most of the USSR was "volunteered" into the Union against >> their will...... > > Can I use that same argument? Honest, I was young and stupid and > delusional. I'll cop to the stupid and delusional bits, but can't truthfully use the "young" part.... From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Mar 7 12:44:56 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Mar 7 12:45:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Clock police! References: Message-ID: Mr K. Mean wrote: > Frog Prince wrote: >> "Mr K. Mean" >>> >>> Can I use that same argument? Honest, I was young and stupid and >>> delusional. >> >> And that's some how different now? Ok you get a yard pass on the >> young part. > > Ouch, zing. That one's going to leave a mark. Kerry, what's up with your posting fonts settings? Your posts are showing up on my PC in a different font than my reader is set to use, and the subject heading says "Re: Clock police! - IBM864" on this reply of mine..... From i83vgwcn02 at sneakemail.com Mon Mar 7 18:26:05 2005 From: i83vgwcn02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Mon Mar 7 13:30:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Clock police! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: indigo wrote: > Mr K. Mean wrote: > >>Frog Prince wrote: >> >>>"Mr K. Mean" >>> >>>>Can I use that same argument? Honest, I was young and stupid and >>>>delusional. >>> >>>And that's some how different now? Ok you get a yard pass on the >>>young part. >> >>Ouch, zing. That one's going to leave a mark. > > > Kerry, what's up with your posting fonts settings? Your posts are showing up > on my PC in a different font than my reader is set to use, and the subject > heading says "Re: Clock police! - IBM864" on this reply of mine..... Weird, it isn't my doing. At least I don't think so. I'm using Thunderbird on my Linux machine. But even though it doesn't show up in the headers, it shows FP's posts as IBM864, which I guess is Arabic. But the other ones don't show up that way. I guess it just replied in the same format. This one isn't showing up like that, is it? But I guess I'll see when it gets there. From i83vgwcn02 at sneakemail.com Mon Mar 7 18:27:46 2005 From: i83vgwcn02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Mon Mar 7 13:30:27 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Clock police! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: indigo wrote: > > Kerry, what's up with your posting fonts settings? Your posts are showing up > on my PC in a different font than my reader is set to use, and the subject > heading says "Re: Clock police! - IBM864" on this reply of mine..... Hmm, weird, it did it that time too. How about I just turn this into the test group and send like millions of these. And if I explicitly change the character encoding then... From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Mar 7 13:43:39 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Mon Mar 7 13:45:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Clock police! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d0i3nu$inp$1@news.spamcop.net... > Kerry, what's up with your posting fonts settings? Your posts are showing up > on my PC in a different font than my reader is set to use, and the subject > heading says "Re: Clock police! - IBM864" on this reply of mine..... > I got all sorts of prompts to install a new character set......is he posting in Chinese? From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Mar 7 13:44:34 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Mon Mar 7 13:45:25 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Clock police! References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message news:d0i6c1$kab$1@news.spamcop.net... This one isn't showing up like that, is it? But I > guess I'll see when it gets there. Yes it is........ From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Mar 7 13:45:15 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Mon Mar 7 13:45:32 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Clock police! References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message news:d0i6f2$kab$2@news.spamcop.net... > > Hmm, weird, it did it that time too. How about I just turn this into > the test group and send like millions of these. And if I explicitly > change the character encoding then... Then we'll have to hunt you down and beat you up...... From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Mar 7 11:16:36 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Mar 7 14:20:17 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Ah, the joys of being a rich old hippocryte References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:d0huk3$fs9$1@news.spamcop.net... > "He let everyone know that even minor violations would not be tolerated, and when one > does that you have to look at that standard," Platt said. Well at least the company made him live by his own standards! Cheeky bastard. From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Mar 7 11:20:28 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Mar 7 14:25:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: woo hooo! I have F1 again! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d0i2k5$i5j$1@news.spamcop.net... > I hope the fight over television rights heats up the action on the track! > Sheesh, that was one boring race.....WTF is it with these new rules about no > changing tires during the race and no changing engines between races? Those > rules are guaranteed to lead to "save the car", not "win the race at all > costs" racing! And what happened to Mikey? Started in the back and never > moved up?! He gained a few places immediately but then as you say pretty much only moved up due to pit stops. I certainly thought he'd be able to take the midfield runners more easily than he did. Well the fight over F1 in general will either break it apart completely or maybe reinvigorate it. As it stands now it's far too weighted in Ferrari's favour - they even get to veto things! These rule changes certainly aren't going to make for risk taking or exciting racing. Who's gonna risk flat spotting their tyres or damaging an engine unless a win looks to be the likely reward? From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Mar 7 11:35:56 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Mar 7 14:40:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" <83vgwcn02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:d0hb0b$4r0$1@news.spamcop.net... > I'm not sure that I would want to go back at this point. LCDs have a > lot of disadvantages, but they seem a lot easier on the eyes for me. I > think it is a lot of the reflected light vs light that is projected into > your eyes, you know, much like watching a film vs watching tv. CRT are > a lot like tv and I feel more disassociated after using one than I do > with a LCD. I'm the same, I find it much harder to look at a CRT monitor for extended periods of time because they shine much brighter and to me can look much fuzzier. > Although, I would like to take this opportunity to bad mouth Dell and > the crappy ones they have on their laptops. You hear me, I'm talking to > you people here. I had one on the old laptop I had (finally after 4 > months of this they just replaced the computer) but the stupid thing > would flip out on me, freeze, change colors and it was just miserable. > They swapped the motherboard like 3 times, put on a new LCD 2 times, > sent it to the factory for a week, and after that one, it worked for > about 30 seconds before it froze again. Well now, the LCDs on laptops are a different animal altogether from desktop LCD monitors which are much much better in my experience. I can see the image on my desktop monitor even from pretty oblique angles whereas on the laptop you don't have to move to the side very much to be unable to see the picture. But then why do you really need to see a laptop from much of an angle anyway (or a desktop one for that matter). That said, I've not had any problems with the screens on any of the 3 laptops we've had (two IBMs and one Fujitsu). There were a couple of dead pixels on the Fujitsu but then it was a 1997 model and technology wasn't so reliable then as it is now. The IBM laptop we have now is just fabulous, very light and small yet the screen seems pretty roomy. It even has Bluetooth so we've got a Bluetooth mouse on it which you can use from across the room which comes in handy when watching old episodes of Dr Who that have been downloaded off the internet LOL. And even the new Dr Who which was leaked onto the internet this past weekend and isn't due out in the UK for a couple of weeks on TV. It was quite good, I liked Christopher Ecclestone as The Doctor. From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Mar 7 11:40:24 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Mar 7 14:45:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Speaking of ID's and security References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" <83vgwcn02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:d0hbmm$57m$1@news.spamcop.net... > The thing that killed me is when I would fly out of Albany sometimes, > like it was snowing and there was snow on the ground and people would be > getting on the parking shuttle with shorts on. Obviously they were > headed to like Hawaii or somewhere, but still, it seemed insane to do > that. Not just because there was snow, but because planes and airports > can be so cold at times. That's just nuts. Even if you're flying between two hot countries you're still likely to feel cold at some point, especially on the plane if there's no blankets to be had. > Nah, just back to the US to work for a bit and then back home for a > vacation after that. 20,000 frequent flyer miles, so that's probably > kind of cool then. The part that I'm probably the least thrilled about > is flying out of Manchester on a Sunday morning. I guess I should hang > out there Saturday night so that I can actually make the flight and see > what makes that place tick. Maybe I could go on like a Joy Division > pilgrimage and see all the places around there associated with them. Oh... where'd the 18 hours come in then? What's wrong with flying out of Manchester? Is it a very early morning flight? Manchester airport is ok as I recall. Do you have a direct flight to the US out of Manchester? I'd leave off the Joy Division pilgrimage until you've got more time to spend looking around. Have you seen 24 Hour Party People? If not, check it out. From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Mar 7 11:42:53 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Mar 7 14:45:16 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Clock police! References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message news:d0hrk3$e9p$1@news.spamcop.net... > Frog Prince wrote: > > "Mr K. Mean" > > > > | > > | Ouch, zing. That one's going to leave a mark. > > > > We now return to the old .social format. Let the zingering commence!!! > > Somehow, you make it sound dirty when you say that. I'm not so sure I > want to be zingered anymore. Why is (was) this thread now supposedly using foreign language characters? From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Mar 7 11:44:58 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Mar 7 14:45:27 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d0i33c$ics$1@news.spamcop.net... > Norton sucks, thought you knew better than to use that piece'o'crap. Troy > was quite good, I thought. It came preinstalled on this computer. But yeah, I'm thinking I may get something else as my subscription is due to end next month. Any recommendations? > Since I've tried both, I think you'll get NP up and running faster than you > learn how to navigate Xnews........ LOL, great From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Mar 7 11:46:30 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Mar 7 14:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Clock police! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d0i3nu$inp$1@news.spamcop.net... > Mr K. Mean wrote: > > Frog Prince wrote: > >> "Mr K. Mean" > >>> > >>> Can I use that same argument? Honest, I was young and stupid and > >>> delusional. > >> > >> And that's some how different now? Ok you get a yard pass on the > >> young part. > > > > Ouch, zing. That one's going to leave a mark. > > Kerry, what's up with your posting fonts settings? Your posts are showing up > on my PC in a different font than my reader is set to use, and the subject > heading says "Re: Clock police! - IBM864" on this reply of mine..... How weird. Mine kept prompting me to install foreign fonts when opening his posts but I didn't get the bit added to the subject line. From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Mar 7 11:50:59 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Mar 7 14:55:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Clock police! References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message news:d0i6c1$kab$1@news.spamcop.net... > Weird, it isn't my doing. At least I don't think so. I'm using > Thunderbird on my Linux machine. But even though it doesn't show up in > the headers, it shows FP's posts as IBM864, which I guess is Arabic. > But the other ones don't show up that way. I guess it just replied in > the same format. This one isn't showing up like that, is it? But I > guess I'll see when it gets there. Yes it is showing up weird. I'm going to have to change it to post using Windows rather than ISO. And now that Indi mentioned it (I changed it too fast last time) I also got that IBM864 thing at the top of my window. FP's posts come through looking normal, it's only yours that are now asking for arabic. If you lookat the headers of the post of yours that I'm replying to (I clipped the references out) you'll see the charset is IBM864 and when I tell IE to ignore installing arabic, your posts come out looking like they're made in Arial or something: Path: news.spamcop.net!not-for-mail From: "Mr K. Mean" Newsgroups: spamcop.social Subject: Re: Clock police! Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2005 18:26:05 +0000 Organization: SpamCop Lines: 26 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 83.148.158.70 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=IBM864; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.spamcop.net 1110219969 20811 83.148.158.70 (7 Mar 2005 18:26:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@news.spamcop.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 18:26:09 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041127) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en In-Reply-To: Xref: news.spamcop.net spamcop.social:130572 From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Mar 7 11:51:23 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Mar 7 14:55:18 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Clock police! References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message news:d0i6f2$kab$2@news.spamcop.net... > indigo wrote: > > > > Kerry, what's up with your posting fonts settings? Your posts are showing up > > on my PC in a different font than my reader is set to use, and the subject > > heading says "Re: Clock police! - IBM864" on this reply of mine..... > > Hmm, weird, it did it that time too. How about I just turn this into > the test group and send like millions of these. And if I explicitly > change the character encoding then... This post is fine so whatever you did fixed it. From devnull at privacy1834818401939109hi.co.uk Mon Mar 7 11:53:00 2005 From: devnull at privacy1834818401939109hi.co.uk (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Mar 7 14:55:26 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns9611CD36AD1ACTheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > No way it was me! It was "Sylvesterthekat" ! > > > I don't know what your beef is about LCD monitors but I love 'em! > > Color, light intensity, viewing angle, ease of reading, ability to scroll, > price for performance. Is that enough? I don't have any problems with any of those things. Ability to scroll?! WTF? I can scroll just fine and no, there's no blurring or lag or anything. As already stated, it out-performs the CRT we have that cost the same amount. Maybe you should see a reasonably good LCD monitor before making a judgement (and no, I wouldn't spend $1700 either). I don't do graphics work that requires precise colour matching so if that's an issue for you I can understand your problem but otherwise you're basing your objections on having seen a poor LCD monitor is all I can assume. From nospam at bisusa.com Mon Mar 7 16:47:48 2005 From: nospam at bisusa.com (JerryMouse) Date: Mon Mar 7 17:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Wal-Mart Outfoxes Again Message-ID: Can't have a big store, so they build two stores. Side by side. http://www.wmdt.com/wires/displaystory.asp?id=30528913 -- There is no "stun" setting for a flame-thrower. From nospam at bisusa.com Mon Mar 7 16:53:29 2005 From: nospam at bisusa.com (JerryMouse) Date: Mon Mar 7 17:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: I hate gun shows. :/ References: Message-ID: Pete Stephenson wrote: > Don't get me wrong -- they're fun to go to. Sure, there's some kooks > wandering around, but there's also really funny stuff[1]. Great deals > can be had, but one must watch out for junk. > > I went looking for some tools and some ammo, and found both. I needed > a brass/steel hammer with steel punches for driving out some pins to > clean certain parts. $35 later, I was carrying a set of such tools > around. I also picked up a few "soft" rifle cases, as the hard case I > have is a pain to wedge into my tiny hybrid car when going to the > range. The soft cases are much better. > > I also picked up 2,140 rounds of ammunition[2], which caused my little > car to sit significantly lower at the rear. > > Note to self: Next time I go to the show, leave the credit cards at > home and pay solely in cash. By limiting how much cash I bring, I can > limit how much I spend much more effectively. Alas, things really > seem to add up...which is why I hate the damned shows. :-P > > Note #2 to self: I need to pay off the credit card bill, then start > saving money. :) > > [1] This one guy wanted to sell a rifle, but didn't want to pay the > $80 fee for a table. Thus, he just slung the rifle on his back, put a > wood dowel in the barrel, taped a sign with information (including > details about it, the price, etc.) to the dowel, and walked around. > Lots of people stopped him to ask about it. Very clever. Common technique. Last show I went to, I carried a stockless AK-47 - I wanted to get a handgrip stock (that fit) now that the hated Assault Weapon Ban had expired. I had THREE people stop me and ask if the thing was for sale. > > [2] That is a very odd number, I know. The corrosive Yugoslavian > surplus ammo for my new SKS consisted of a sealed can of 1,120 > rounds. I'm mostly getting it for the stripper clips[3], but hey, the > price was right. 1,000 rounds of 9mm and 20 rounds of Winchester > .30-06 Supreme Ballistic Tips for next year's deer season (damn, > those are expensive, nearly a dollar per shot). Anything less than 10,000 rounds is chump-change. Remember, in a civil disturbance or governmental collapse, with sufficient ammunition you may acquire any necessities (and defend what you have). > > [3] Although the SKS has a very similar working mechanism to the > AK-47, it is not fed by detachable magazines. Instead, one loads the > rifle from the top using stripper clips charged with ten rounds each > to load the 10-round fixed magazine. The clips are reusable, but I > only have a few. The Yugo ammo comes with them, which is handy. Cool. Keep the fouling ammo for contingencies. If you need a LOT of ammo, potential corrosion will be the least of your problems. From nospam at bisusa.com Mon Mar 7 16:55:49 2005 From: nospam at bisusa.com (JerryMouse) Date: Mon Mar 7 18:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Ah, the joys of being a rich old hippocryte References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/aplocal_story.asp?category=6420&slug=Boeing%20CEO > http://tinyurl.com/4mjo6 > > CHICAGO -- Boeing Co. abruptly forced out president and chief > executive officer Harry Stonecipher for what the company said Monday > was a violation of the company's code of business conduct stemming > from a relationship the married, 68-year-old Stonecipher had with a > female Boeing executive. Well, then, just what the hell is the incentive to be a rich CEO? From nospam at bisusa.com Mon Mar 7 16:58:52 2005 From: nospam at bisusa.com (JerryMouse) Date: Mon Mar 7 18:00:16 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: CIA given power to deport suspects for purposes of torture References: Message-ID: Porpoise wrote: > "Borgholio" wrote in message > news:d0gr0n$sca$1@news.spamcop.net... >> Surprise, surprise. >> >> http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/03/06/cia.interrogation/index.html > > > Quelle surprise? So, just because it was sanctioned by the president > makes it legal? Sure it's legal. The CIA is taking folk from, say, the UK and transporting them to, say, somewhere else. Contrary to the impression, the CIA is not scooping up folk from the US; the FBI is responsible for domestic scooping. From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Mar 7 18:10:37 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon Mar 7 18:15:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: CIA given power to deport suspects for purposes of torture References: Message-ID: "JerryMouse" | >> Surprise, surprise. | >> | >> http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/03/06/cia.interrogation/index.html | > | > | > Quelle surprise? So, just because it was sanctioned by the president | > makes it legal? | | Sure it's legal. The CIA is taking folk from, say, the UK and transporting | them to, say, somewhere else. | | Contrary to the impression, the CIA is not scooping up folk from the US; the | FBI is responsible for domestic scooping. No? I recall an article in the Dallas Morning News around 9/11 where a physician from Saudi attending UT Med school was disappeared for over 6 weeks. During that time his wife and kids were traumatized and not told anything. The ONLY reasons he undisappeared was a) he was sponsored by Saudi Aramco and b) related to the Saudi Royal Family c) had a personal connection with the Bush family. Still and all when he retuned to the US from Saudi (carried his family out of harms way) he was still held up for days(?) at the airport again without communications. And under the Patriot Act what's to prevent any citizen from being declared an enemy by this administration and likewise disappeared? From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Mar 7 18:55:25 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Mar 7 18:55:20 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Clock police! References: Message-ID: Mr K. Mean wrote: > indigo wrote: >> >> Kerry, what's up with your posting fonts settings? Your posts are >> showing up on my PC in a different font than my reader is set to >> use, and the subject heading says "Re: Clock police! - IBM864" on >> this reply of mine..... > > Hmm, weird, it did it that time too. How about I just turn this into > the test group and send like millions of these. And if I explicitly > change the character encoding then... Your last post in this thread was just as weird looking, but this one showed up "normally", if that helps any.... From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Mar 7 18:59:12 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Mar 7 19:00:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: woo hooo! I have F1 again! References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > These rule changes certainly aren't going to make for risk taking or > exciting racing. Who's gonna risk flat spotting their tyres or > damaging an engine unless a win looks to be the likely reward? Or risk flat spotting their _tires_, if you will ;-) But these new rules suck, big time.... From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Mar 7 19:01:07 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Mar 7 19:00:16 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:d0i33c$ics$1@news.spamcop.net... > >> Norton sucks, thought you knew better than to use that piece'o'crap. >> Troy was quite good, I thought. > > It came preinstalled on this computer. But yeah, I'm thinking I may > get something else as my subscription is due to end next month. Any > recommendations? Grisoft AVG seems to be, by far, the winner in the "free" class. > >> Since I've tried both, I think you'll get NP up and running faster >> than you learn how to navigate Xnews........ > > LOL, great Just warning you is all.... From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Mar 7 19:03:34 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Mar 7 19:00:24 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: Charles wrote: > No way it was me! It was "indigo" ! > >> Charles wrote: > >>> So you use MS software? Weird. Talk about impossible to navigate! >>> Oh, and there's always the inability to thread properly... >> >> Yup, that's one of the things I hated about Xnews! > > You hate about xnews that OE doesn't thread properly? And you still > don't use xnews? Weird, dude. Poke, poke.....I couldn't make heads nor tails of Xnews out of the box.....that was the "point"... From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Mar 7 19:23:35 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Mar 7 19:20:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: Charles wrote: > No way it was me! It was "indigo" ! > >> Charles wrote: >>> No way it was me! It was "indigo" ! >>> >>>> Charles wrote: >>> >>>>> So you use MS software? Weird. Talk about impossible to >>>>> navigate! Oh, and there's always the inability to thread >>>>> properly... >>>> >>>> Yup, that's one of the things I hated about Xnews! >>> >>> You hate about xnews that OE doesn't thread properly? And you still >>> don't use xnews? Weird, dude. >> >> Poke, poke.....I couldn't make heads nor tails of Xnews out of the >> box.....that was the "point"... > > It's free - it doesn't come in a box. And that's not what you wrote, > either. Sheesh. "out of the box" meaning just downloaded. Xnews is a nightmare to set up in a user friendly manner to get even remotely close to the immediate functionality of OE. From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Tue Mar 8 00:10:00 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Mon Mar 7 19:25:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Wal-Mart Outfoxes Again References: Message-ID: "JerryMouse" wrote in message news:d0ilme$tb7$1@news.spamcop.net... > -- > There is no "stun" setting for a flame-thrower. Wanna bet? From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Mon Mar 7 19:24:59 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Mon Mar 7 19:30:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d0ipp8$vm9$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Grisoft AVG seems to be, by far, the winner in the "free" class. I have to say I was skeptical, but it's been running like a top, seems to be updating itself constantly, I'm not sure I'll go back to Norton, I think I'll just ask them for a refund of the other half of my last renewal that they "don't support" and want me to upgrade. From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net Mon Mar 7 19:27:33 2005 From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz) Date: Mon Mar 7 19:30:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d0ir3c$11q$1@news.spamcop.net... > Charles wrote: > It's free - it doesn't come in a box. And that's not what you wrote, > either. Sheesh. > "out of the box" meaning just downloaded. Xnews is a nightmare to set up in > a user friendly manner to get even remotely close to the immediate > functionality of OE. Isn't it nice to have Charles back? Heee....miss ya, Charles... From nospam at bisusa.com Mon Mar 7 20:50:43 2005 From: nospam at bisusa.com (JerryMouse) Date: Mon Mar 7 21:55:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Republicans are better lovers? Message-ID: "The Democrats of the Sixties were all about making love and not war while a war-loving Republican is a man who would fight, bleed, sacrifice, and die for his country. Could you imagine what that very same man would do for his wife in the bedroom?" asks ["Playgirl" Editor-in-chief, Michelle] Zipp. From nospam at bisusa.com Mon Mar 7 21:09:10 2005 From: nospam at bisusa.com (JerryMouse) Date: Mon Mar 7 22:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: CIA given power to deport suspects for purposes of torture References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > "JerryMouse" > >>>> Surprise, surprise. >>>> >>>> http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/03/06/cia.interrogation/index.html >>> >>> >>> Quelle surprise? So, just because it was sanctioned by the president >>> makes it legal? >> >> Sure it's legal. The CIA is taking folk from, say, the UK and >> transporting them to, say, somewhere else. >> >> Contrary to the impression, the CIA is not scooping up folk from the >> US; the FBI is responsible for domestic scooping. > > No? I recall an article in the Dallas Morning News around 9/11 where > a physician from Saudi attending UT Med school was disappeared for > over 6 weeks. During that time his wife and kids were traumatized > and not told anything. Ah, had we only disappeared some Saudis attending flight school. > > The ONLY reasons he undisappeared was a) he was sponsored by Saudi > Aramco and b) related to the Saudi Royal Family c) had a personal > connection with the Bush family. Those seem like pretty good reasons. > > Still and all when he retuned to the US from Saudi (carried his > family out of harms way) he was still held up for days(?) at the > airport again without communications. > > And under the Patriot Act what's to prevent any citizen from being > declared an enemy by this administration and likewise disappeared? That's easy: Unlawful enemy combatants may be detained on the order of the President, true. But there is no provision in the Patriot Act for declaring someone an unlawful enemy combatant. That designation was coined by the supreme court over sixty years ago. There's a couple of fundamental concepts at work here: Enemy combatants are handled under the "rules" of war and administered exclusively by the military while criminals are processed via the criminal law. The Patriot Act addressed several provisions of the criminal law - it had, and has, no effect on the military. And, of course, your friend who disappeared did so before the Patriot Act became law. Did you know the ACLU endorses most of the Patriot Act? From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Mar 7 22:50:44 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon Mar 7 23:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: CIA given power to deport suspects for purposes of torture References: Message-ID: JerryMouse" | >>>> Surprise, surprise. | >>>> | >>>> http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/03/06/cia.interrogation/index.html | >>> | >>> | >>> Quelle surprise? So, just because it was sanctioned by the president | >>> makes it legal? | >> | >> Sure it's legal. The CIA is taking folk from, say, the UK and | >> transporting them to, say, somewhere else. | >> | >> Contrary to the impression, the CIA is not scooping up folk from the | >> US; the FBI is responsible for domestic scooping. | > | > No? I recall an article in the Dallas Morning News around 9/11 where | > a physician from Saudi attending UT Med school was disappeared for | > over 6 weeks. During that time his wife and kids were traumatized | > and not told anything. | | Ah, had we only disappeared some Saudis attending flight school. | > The ONLY reasons he undisappeared was a) he was sponsored by Saudi | > Aramco and b) related to the Saudi Royal Family c) had a personal | > connection with the Bush family. | | Those seem like pretty good reasons. Likely very true but how many others were not so fortunately connected? | > Still and all when he retuned to the US from Saudi (carried his | > family out of harms way) he was still held up for days(?) at the | > airport again without communications. | | > | > And under the Patriot Act what's to prevent any citizen from being | > declared an enemy by this administration and likewise disappeared? | | That's easy: Unlawful enemy combatants may be detained on the order of the | President, true. But there is no provision in the Patriot Act for declaring | someone an unlawful enemy combatant. That designation was coined by the | supreme court over sixty years ago. | | There's a couple of fundamental concepts at work here: Enemy combatants are | handled under the "rules" of war and administered exclusively by the | military while criminals are processed via the criminal law. The Patriot Act | addressed several provisions of the criminal law - it had, and has, no | effect on the military. Small distinction that would seem not to impede any such acts or determinations by the government's connivance. | And, of course, your friend who disappeared did so before the Patriot Act | became law. Not my friend as I don't know him from Adam's house cat. | Did you know the ACLU endorses most of the Patriot Act? That's news to me. Cites? From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Mar 7 22:52:57 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon Mar 7 23:00:19 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Republicans are better lovers? References: Message-ID: "JerryMouse" wrote in message news:d0j3tt$5nu$1@news.spamcop.net... | "The Democrats of the Sixties were all about making love and not war while a | war-loving Republican is a man who would fight, bleed, sacrifice, and die | for his country. Could you imagine what that very same man would do for his | wife in the bedroom?" asks ["Playgirl" Editor-in-chief, Michelle] Zipp. Most of the republicans who made the determination to got to Iraq managed to avoid any personal involvement in the unpleasant event. From i83vgwcn02 at sneakemail.com Tue Mar 8 11:12:35 2005 From: i83vgwcn02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Tue Mar 8 06:15:16 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Clock police! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message > >>Frog Prince wrote: >> >>>"Mr K. Mean" >>>| >>>| Ouch, zing. That one's going to leave a mark. >>> >>>We now return to the old .social format. Let the zingering commence!!! >> >>Somehow, you make it sound dirty when you say that. I'm not so sure I >>want to be zingered anymore. > > Why is (was) this thread now supposedly using foreign language characters? It appears to be my fault. I've started using Thunderbird on my Linux machine, it seems like it has been defaulting to that character set for some reason. I can change it on each message and it seems to work correctly though. But this seems to be an older version too, I need to find a more recent build. From i83vgwcn02 at sneakemail.com Tue Mar 8 11:18:52 2005 From: i83vgwcn02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Tue Mar 8 06:20:16 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Verizon Bastages! In-Reply-To: Reference