From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Sat Jan 1 01:38:47 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Sat Jan 1 01:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Censorship follies 5: city objects to nude mural--of pigs Message-ID: They're afraid it might lead to murals of naked people. From AP via the Sacramento Bee: > BBQ owner, city divided over pig mural > > Published 8:30 am PST Thursday, December 30, 2004 > SNOHOMISH, Wash. (AP) - A mural of pink pigs painted on the side of a > barbecue restaurant is apparently too spicy for officials in this city's > historic district. > > The city has denied a permit to Janelle and Steve Carpenter, owners of the > BBQ Shack, and the painting has remained veiled behind a white tarp since the > restaurant opened last week. > > The mural features five pink pigs on a white concrete wall, unwilling > participants in meal preparation. One is ready to be grilled as another > attempts escape in a hot air balloon. The remaining three appear to be to > enticing drivers to stop. > > The Carpenters have appealed the decision. > > "They think it's very out of place," Janelle Carpenter said of city > officials. "It's barbecue. ... It's crazy." > > The couple had planned to open their restaurant in October. At the time, > Janelle Carpenter said, the City Council told her she wouldn't need a permit > to paint the exterior of the 600-square-foot building. > > So began the $3,500 painting of unclothed pigs, as well as one of a black > 1957 Chevrolet convertible - the town is known for its classic car shows. > > But as the painting's neared completion, Carpenter said she was told that > while painting a building is kosher, pigs and other objects are considered > murals and require a permit. > > She said the city's Design Review Board, which makes recommendations about > exterior changes to buildings in the district, objected to the painting > because it doesn't fit the district's landscape and because naked pigs might > lead to paintings of naked people. > > Dwight Hartman, the city's planning manager, denied the permit based on board > recommendations. He declined to comment. > > Karen Guzak, board chairwoman, also refused to explain the board's > objections, citing the Carpenters' appeal. > > "How offensive can a pig be?" said Tom Grissett of Snohomish, a customer > eating barbecue pork at the diner on Wednesday. "When was the last time you > saw pigs with clothes on?" -- D.F. Manno dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream will never die." From TMHRVMFWREVN at spammotel.com Sat Jan 1 14:11:44 2005 From: TMHRVMFWREVN at spammotel.com (Rob) Date: Sat Jan 1 09:15:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Censorship follies 5: city objects to nude mural--of pigs References: Message-ID: "D.F. Manno" wrote in message news:dfm2a3l0t2-F78207.01384601012005@news.cesmail.net... > > > > But as the painting's neared completion, Carpenter said she was told that > > while painting a building is kosher, pigs and other objects are considered > > murals and require a permit. > > Perhaps this is the real reason behind it. Pigs are not kosher to Jews or halal to Muslims, they are considered dirty. Political correctness gone to extremes?...or a secret plot by the Elders of Zion? ;-) From me at privacy.net Sat Jan 1 12:11:58 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sat Jan 1 12:25:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Talking of weather........ Earthquakes, anyway..... References: Message-ID: "Bob W." < | > | "Richard Gross, a geophysicist with Nasa's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in | > | California, believes a shift of mass toward the Earth's centre during | > | the quake caused the planet to spin three microseconds faster and tilt | > | about an inch on its axis." | > | | > | It may be time for the scientists to look at whether to add a leap | > | second... | > | > You're mixing two different measurement concepts one being time and the | > other being displacement. | | I'm not mixing anything. I'm quoting an article, and both concepts | appear to be valid. | | Are you trying to observe some sort of "science kosher" thing? "Never | mention two different concepts in the same sentence? No. Only pointing out that an arcsecond (the tilt) is a measure of distance and a 'leap second' is a measure of time. (how's that for two different concepts in one sentence ?) To complicate the discussion 'faster' is time over distance. ;<} (you don't want to get me started on the 'three dumbbells explanation for the change in the earth's rate of rotation) From David1 at suescornerweb.com Sat Jan 1 12:41:05 2005 From: David1 at suescornerweb.com (David 1) Date: Sat Jan 1 12:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Messages being cancelled In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mr K. Mean wrote: > Spam N Scams Reporter wrote: > >> Spam N Scams Reporter wrote: >> >>> Right now troll boi is canceling messages from 199.203.54.66 >>> >>> What I have just learned from my tests, is that it tests to see what >>> IP is showing up in sc.test. Look at the test thread in control.cancel >>> >>> I have also learned that you can cancel a report in control.cancel >>> and it disappears >> >> >> Oops! I just looked again in .cancel and my message wasn't really >> cancelled, it just look like it disappeared > > > Spam N Scams Reporter, any particular reason that you were scanning my > computer that you would like to share? I don't know exactly what's going on but if this helps it's the whois report of a port scan that my firewall (System 5) reported this morning: e^deltacom EDELTACOM-1BLK (NET-216-154-192-0-1) 216.154.192.0 - 216.154.207.255 Corporate Email service EDEL-195-32-7 (NET-216-154-195-32-1) 216.154.195.32 - 216.154.195.63 # ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2004-12-31 19:10 # Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database. Done I would have shown the trace but it wouldn't let me print it -- David 1 bad addy spamtrap@suescornerweb.com From nobody at devnul.spamcop.net Sat Jan 1 12:45:53 2005 From: nobody at devnul.spamcop.net (Zoe) Date: Sat Jan 1 12:50:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Messages being cancelled References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" <47p772ok02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:cr6jcd$9mp$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Spam N Scams Reporter, any particular reason that you were scanning my > computer that you would like to share? How can you tell that? From SCNews.5.myspamgobbler at spamgourmet.com Sat Jan 1 10:44:45 2005 From: SCNews.5.myspamgobbler at spamgourmet.com (Spam N Scams Reporter) Date: Sat Jan 1 13:45:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Messages being cancelled In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mr K. Mean wrote: > Spam N Scams Reporter wrote: > >> Spam N Scams Reporter wrote: >> >>> Right now troll boi is canceling messages from 199.203.54.66 >>> >>> What I have just learned from my tests, is that it tests to see what >>> IP is showing up in sc.test. Look at the test thread in control.cancel >>> >>> I have also learned that you can cancel a report in control.cancel >>> and it disappears >> >> >> Oops! I just looked again in .cancel and my message wasn't really >> cancelled, it just look like it disappeared > > > Spam N Scams Reporter, any particular reason that you were scanning my > computer that you would like to share? I didn't realize that I had. What was the IP address? From SCNews.5.myspamgobbler at spamgourmet.com Sat Jan 1 10:47:08 2005 From: SCNews.5.myspamgobbler at spamgourmet.com (Spam N Scams Reporter) Date: Sat Jan 1 13:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Messages being cancelled In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: David 1 wrote: > Mr K. Mean wrote: > >> Spam N Scams Reporter wrote: >> >>> Spam N Scams Reporter wrote: >>> >>>> Right now troll boi is canceling messages from 199.203.54.66 >>>> >>>> What I have just learned from my tests, is that it tests to see what >>>> IP is showing up in sc.test. Look at the test thread in control.cancel >>>> >>>> I have also learned that you can cancel a report in control.cancel >>>> and it disappears >>> >>> >>> >>> Oops! I just looked again in .cancel and my message wasn't really >>> cancelled, it just look like it disappeared >> >> >> >> Spam N Scams Reporter, any particular reason that you were scanning my >> computer that you would like to share? > > > I don't know exactly what's going on but if this helps it's the whois > report of a port scan that my firewall (System 5) reported this morning: > e^deltacom EDELTACOM-1BLK (NET-216-154-192-0-1) > 216.154.192.0 - 216.154.207.255 > Corporate Email service EDEL-195-32-7 (NET-216-154-195-32-1) > 216.154.195.32 - 216.154.195.63 > # ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2004-12-31 19:10 > # Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database. > Done > I would have shown the trace but it wouldn't let me print it > That's not me. From David1 at suescornerweb.com Sat Jan 1 13:57:58 2005 From: David1 at suescornerweb.com (David 1) Date: Sat Jan 1 14:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Messages being cancelled In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Spam N Scams Reporter wrote: > David 1 wrote: > >> Mr K. Mean wrote: >> >>> Spam N Scams Reporter wrote: >>> >>>> Spam N Scams Reporter wrote: >>>> snip >> I don't know exactly what's going on but if this helps it's the whois >> report of a port scan that my firewall (System 5) reported this morning: >> e^deltacom EDELTACOM-1BLK (NET-216-154-192-0-1) >> 216.154.192.0 - 216.154.207.255 >> Corporate Email service EDEL-195-32-7 (NET-216-154-195-32-1) >> 216.154.195.32 - 216.154.195.63 >> # ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2004-12-31 19:10 >> # Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database. >> Done >> I would have shown the trace but it wouldn't let me print it >> > That's not me. didn't say it was, I don't know who or waht I was just trying to help Mike out, figured if he got scaned then maybe the person that scaned me scaned him to & he could compare if he chose to -- David 1 bad addy spamtrap@suescornerweb.com From SCNews.5.myspamgobbler at spamgourmet.com Sat Jan 1 11:00:27 2005 From: SCNews.5.myspamgobbler at spamgourmet.com (Spam N Scams Reporter) Date: Sat Jan 1 14:00:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Messages being cancelled In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mr K. Mean wrote: > Spam N Scams Reporter wrote: > >> Spam N Scams Reporter wrote: >> >>> Right now troll boi is canceling messages from 199.203.54.66 >>> >>> What I have just learned from my tests, is that it tests to see what >>> IP is showing up in sc.test. Look at the test thread in control.cancel >>> >>> I have also learned that you can cancel a report in control.cancel >>> and it disappears >> >> >> Oops! I just looked again in .cancel and my message wasn't really >> cancelled, it just look like it disappeared > > > Spam N Scams Reporter, any particular reason that you were scanning my > computer that you would like to share? Can you contact me directly. Brian From nobody at devnul.spamcop.net Sat Jan 1 14:18:47 2005 From: nobody at devnul.spamcop.net (Zoe) Date: Sat Jan 1 14:20:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Messages being cancelled References: Message-ID: "Spam N Scams Reporter" wrote in message news:cr6rvd$egr$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > Spam N Scams Reporter, any particular reason that you were scanning my > > computer that you would like to share? > > > Can you contact me directly. Is that you canceling a lot of posts, or are you being spoofed? From SCNews.5.myspamgobbler at spamgourmet.com Sat Jan 1 11:46:09 2005 From: SCNews.5.myspamgobbler at spamgourmet.com (Spam N Scams Reporter) Date: Sat Jan 1 14:50:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Messages being cancelled In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mr K. Mean wrote: > Zoe wrote: > >> "Mr K. Mean" <47p772ok02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message >> news:cr6jcd$9mp$1@news.spamcop.net... >> >>> Spam N Scams Reporter, any particular reason that you were scanning my >>> computer that you would like to share? >> >> >> How can you tell that? > > > Sendmail logs. A bunch of relay attempts showed up in the log summary > this morning with that particular email address on it. > > Not a big deal, somebody always seems to be scanning for open mail > relays, I was just curious, that's all. I did do some testing for relays on a few addresses from this ng. Didn't realize that I had caught yours. I was looking for something else. My apologizes. Brian From nospam at bisusa.com Sat Jan 1 17:54:21 2005 From: nospam at bisusa.com (JerryMouse) Date: Sat Jan 1 18:55:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Censorship follies 5: city objects to nude mural--of pigs References: Message-ID: Rob wrote: > "D.F. Manno" wrote in message > news:dfm2a3l0t2-F78207.01384601012005@news.cesmail.net... >>> >>> But as the painting's neared completion, Carpenter said she was >>> told that while painting a building is kosher, pigs and other >>> objects are considered murals and require a permit. >>> > > Perhaps this is the real reason behind it. Pigs are not kosher to > Jews or halal to Muslims, they are considered dirty. Political > correctness gone to extremes?...or a secret plot by the Elders of > Zion? Not "dirty," "ritually 'unclean.' " Islam is much more intent regarding pigs than Judaism. Jews just can't EAT pork. Jews can raise pigs, slaughter pigs, work with pigskin, wear pigskin belts, and so forth. Muslims avoid pigs in every possible way. Still, a more absurd example of PC (but this was before there was a PC). A few years ago, Jack's Fried Chicken in Kentucky applied for a "Service Mark." Notification of the impending issuance of the requested mark was dutifully published in the Federal Register by the Patent Office. This announcement brought the proposed service mark to the attention of several feminist organizations who filed timely objections. A new announcement was placed in the Federal Register advising anyone else who had objections to the issuance of the service mark registration: "Jack's Fried Chicken - Where a Breast in the Mouth is as Good as a Thigh in the Hand" should draw nigh and give their attention. To my mind, the issue is self-correcting: Either Jack would make millions or his chicken shack would be burnt to the ground. But, no! We've got to get the Commissioner of Patents and Trademarks involved, publication in the Federal Register, lawyers, depositions, writs, motions, notaries public without number, hearings. Bah! From nospam at bisusa.com Sat Jan 1 18:17:46 2005 From: nospam at bisusa.com (JerryMouse) Date: Sat Jan 1 19:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Talking of weather........ Earthquakes, anyway..... References: Message-ID: Tim McGraw wrote: > > So how much of your big Bush tax rebate are sending for the relief > effort? Actually, from the rebate and tax reductions, none. I've already invested that in more Micros~1 stock. But I guess that counts, in a way. Gates has already donated three wheelbarrow loads of cash. Independent observers will note that democratic, capitalistic societies suffer much less from this sort of disaster than other types of governmental organizations. In the instant case, compare Sri Lanka (gone) to India (did something happen?), less than 50 miles apart. Recent reports show India sending relief aid TO Sri Lanka! A year ago, a 6.3 earthquake killed up to 40,000 in Bam, Iraq (pop 120,000) - a larger quake in 1986 killed less than 100 in San Francisco (pop 730,000). In a capitalistic country, the monetary loss could shortly be recovered by selling "el primo" beachfront property. Heck, if that tsunami had hit Florida, the four-color brochures would already be in the mail or, more likely, email! From TMHRVMFWREVN at spammotel.com Sun Jan 2 00:17:06 2005 From: TMHRVMFWREVN at spammotel.com (Rob) Date: Sat Jan 1 19:20:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Censorship follies 5: city objects to nude mural--of pigs References: Message-ID: "JerryMouse" wrote in message news:cr7d79$oon$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Jack's Fried Chicken - Where a Breast in the Mouth is as Good as a Thigh in > the Hand" > > LOL...I want that one as a bumper sticker :-) A Jewish joke about pork (I heard it from a Rabbi) A Rabbi and a Catholic Priest were sitting down to tea together. The priest said to the Rabbi, "Tell me Rabbi, you have a prohibition against eating pork, have you ever been tempted to eat it?" "Yes, I did actually try it once," he replied. "And did you like it?" asked the priest. "It wasn't bad really, quite a nice taste in fact." He went on, "Tell me, as a Catholic priest you should remain celibate, have you, you know, been tempted in that department?" "Well I must admit I did once fall and went with a woman," replied the priest. They looked at each other for a while and then the Rabbi broke the silence saying, "Better than pork isn't it?" From nospam at bisusa.com Sat Jan 1 18:25:42 2005 From: nospam at bisusa.com (JerryMouse) Date: Sat Jan 1 19:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Mary and Joseph, stay out of Elizabeth City, N.C. References: Message-ID: D.F. Manno wrote: > > You're making a number of assumptions about this woman that you have > no evidence for. You don't know how she ended up in the shelter, you > don't know if she broke any other rules while in the shelter, you > don't know if she's working or looking for work or going to school or > going to job training. You don't know much about her at all, but > you're perfectly willing to assume that she's the right-wing > caricature of a poor person--lazy, shiftless, unwilling to follow the > rules, an unfit parent, etc. Exactly. The director of the shelter, however, IS intimately familiar with this woman and all her peccadillos. He, no doubt, made his decision based on the totality of facts at hand. His shelter, his rules. > > I thought from the minute I read the article that the minister's > attitude was very unChristian. Now I'm having doubts about yours. How does the minister's actions differ from Christ evicting the money-changers from the Temple? (That whole story, by the way, is almost completely misunderstood. Jews from all over came to the Temple to make sacrifices, and the Temple didn't take money. Further, the money the Jews DID bring with them to purchase the appropriate sacrifice (dove, quail, bullock, etc.), had to be converted to Sheckles, so the "money-changers" were performing a valuable service. Oh well.) From nospam at bisusa.com Sat Jan 1 18:27:14 2005 From: nospam at bisusa.com (JerryMouse) Date: Sat Jan 1 19:30:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Mary and Joseph, stay out of Elizabeth City, N.C. References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > "JerryMouse" > >>>> "It was a joke, son." >>> >>> No, YOU are the joke here. >> >> Whatever. As long as it gets a laugh. > > Who's laughing? Melvin and Topaz. And at least two others whose names I don't know. From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Sat Jan 1 18:57:10 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Cat) Date: Sat Jan 1 20:00:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Aww..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bob W. wrote: > In article , > "Zoe" wrote: >>A court has overturned the decision to award $88m (?44.7m) to former Playboy >>model Anna Nicole Smith from the estate of her husband who was 90 when he >>died. > > > Ooh, yeah... My heart bleeds for her. > > It'll make it tougher for her to afford whatever drugs she's on. Did you see how she was trying to blame her wacked out behavior at some recent awards deal on not being able to read the teleprompter? Her publicist or someone like that was the one making the claims. Did they both forget that there's also footage of her being interviewed that same night and acting just as weird? From TMHRVMFWREVN at spammotel.com Sun Jan 2 00:57:10 2005 From: TMHRVMFWREVN at spammotel.com (Rob) Date: Sat Jan 1 20:00:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Talking of weather........ Earthquakes, anyway..... References: Message-ID: "JerryMouse" wrote in message news:cr7ej6$pf9$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Independent observers will note that democratic, capitalistic societies > suffer much less from this sort of disaster than other types of governmental > organizations. In the instant case, compare Sri Lanka (gone) to India (did > something happen?), less than 50 miles apart. Recent reports show India > sending relief aid TO Sri Lanka! > > This couldn't by any chance be because Sri Lanka is an island most of which is only a few feet above water and most people living on the land only a few feet above water whereas India is on the continent, a fair bit bigger than Sri Lanka and the majority of people live well away from the sea? No, of course not, it must be the type of government that causes so many people to die when a tsunami obliterates the land and destroys the infra-structure where most live. From me at privacy.net Sat Jan 1 16:59:16 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat Jan 1 20:00:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Talking of weather........ Earthquakes, anyway..... References: Message-ID: "Rob" wrote in message news:cr7gu7$qr4$1@news.spamcop.net... > This couldn't by any chance be because Sri Lanka is an island most of which > is only a few feet above water and most people living on the land only a few > feet above water whereas India is on the continent, a fair bit bigger than > Sri Lanka and the majority of people live well away from the sea? No, of > course not, it must be the type of government that causes so many people to > die when a tsunami obliterates the land and destroys the infra-structure > where most live. Remember, JM sees things thru red-tinted glasses which tend to filter out most of the truth and facts. From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Sat Jan 1 18:59:41 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Cat) Date: Sat Jan 1 20:00:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Censorship follies 5: city objects to nude mural--of pigs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: D.F. Manno wrote: >>But as the painting's neared completion, Wow, who's the doofus who let that grammar error make it into a printed article? From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Sun Jan 2 01:19:10 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Sat Jan 1 20:35:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Talking of weather........ Earthquakes, anyway..... References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:cr7h13$qro$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Rob" wrote in message > news:cr7gu7$qr4$1@news.spamcop.net... > > This couldn't by any chance be because Sri Lanka is an island most of > which >> is only a few feet above water and most people living on the land only a > few >> feet above water whereas India is on the continent, a fair bit bigger >> than >> Sri Lanka and the majority of people live well away from the sea? No, of >> course not, it must be the type of government that causes so many people > to >> die when a tsunami obliterates the land and destroys the infra-structure >> where most live. > > Remember, JM sees things thru red-tinted glasses which tend to filter out > most of the truth and facts. Well, I must confess, I read his diatribe 3 times and it still didn't make sense, so I just ignored it! From tmcgraw at spamcop.net Sat Jan 1 17:35:54 2005 From: tmcgraw at spamcop.net (Tim McGraw) Date: Sat Jan 1 20:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Talking of weather........ Earthquakes, anyway..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Rob wrote: > JerryMouse wrote: > >>Independent observers will note that democratic, capitalistic societies >>suffer much less from this sort of disaster than other types of >>governmental >>organizations. In the instant case, compare Sri Lanka (gone) to India (did >>something happen?), less than 50 miles apart. Recent reports show India >>sending relief aid TO Sri Lanka! > > This couldn't by any chance be because Sri Lanka is an island most of which > is only a few feet above water and most people living on the land only a few > feet above water whereas India is on the continent, a fair bit bigger than > Sri Lanka and the majority of people live well away from the sea? No, of > course not, it must be the type of government that causes so many people to > die when a tsunami obliterates the land and destroys the infra-structure > where most live. Actually it's because India refuses foreign aid on prinicple in an attempt to refurbish its image as a regional power and to establish a self-reliant India. http://www.telegraphindia.com/1050102/asp/nation/story_4202430.asp From nobody at devnll.spamcop.net Sat Jan 1 20:49:20 2005 From: nobody at devnll.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sat Jan 1 20:50:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Censorship follies 5: city objects to nude mural--of pigs References: Message-ID: "Rob" wrote in message news:cr6b3d$5bv$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Perhaps this is the real reason behind it. Pigs are not kosher to Jews or > halal to Muslims, they are considered dirty. Political correctness gone to > extremes?...or a secret plot by the Elders of Zion? ;-) > One would assume that Jews or Muslims wouldn't eat there, and if they are offended by the mere sight of pigs, I'd guess life is very difficult, what with farms and Porky Pig cartoons and all.... From me at privacy.net Sat Jan 1 21:00:28 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sat Jan 1 21:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Mary and Joseph, stay out of Elizabeth City, N.C. References: Message-ID: | > "JerryMouse" | > | >>>> "It was a joke, son." | >>> | >>> No, YOU are the joke here. | >> | >> Whatever. As long as it gets a laugh. | > | > Who's laughing? | | Melvin and Topaz. And at least two others whose names I don't know. Perhaps you mistake histeria for laughter? From nospam at bisusa.com Sat Jan 1 20:51:36 2005 From: nospam at bisusa.com (JerryMouse) Date: Sat Jan 1 21:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Pregnant? No Divorce! Message-ID: Woman, mother of two, and man, father of a different two, marry. Husband beats wife. Husband goes to prison. Two years pass. Husband still in prison. Wife files for divorce. Husband does not contest divorce. Wife is, however, pregnant by another man! Judge denies divorce to prevent unborn child from being a bastard! Judge says: "You don't go around doing that when you're not divorced." "It's about ... the fundamental right to choose," says the tart's lawyer. Story at: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/aplocal_story.asp?category=6420&slug=WA%20Divorce%20Denied Human interest piece at: http://www.thestranger.com/current/feature.html From nobody at devull.spamcop.net Sat Jan 1 22:01:31 2005 From: nobody at devull.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sat Jan 1 22:05:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Messages being cancelled References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" <47p772ok02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:cr6sgu$f1d$2@news.spamcop.net... > > Sendmail logs. A bunch of relay attempts showed up in the log summary > this morning with that particular email address on it. > > Not a big deal, somebody always seems to be scanning for open mail > relays, I was just curious, that's all. Gee, I wonder who else might be doing that? From nobody at devull.spamcop.net Sat Jan 1 22:05:49 2005 From: nobody at devull.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sat Jan 1 22:10:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] cancel Message-ID: Path: news.spamcop.net!not-for-mail From: me@privacy.net Newsgroups: spamcop.social Subject: cancel Control: cancel Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 03:05:21 +0000 (UTC) Organization: SpamCop Lines: 1 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-19-177-174.jan.bellsouth.net X-Trace: news.spamcop.net 1104635121 31788 68.19.177.174 (2 Jan 2005 03:05:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@news.spamcop.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 03:05:21 +0000 (UTC) Xref: news.spamcop.net control.cancel:4483 From nobody at devull.spamcop.net Sat Jan 1 22:06:39 2005 From: nobody at devull.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sat Jan 1 22:10:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] cancel References: Message-ID: Path: news.spamcop.net!not-for-mail From: me@privacy.net Newsgroups: spamcop.social Subject: cancel Control: cancel Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 03:05:21 +0000 (UTC) Organization: SpamCop Lines: 1 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-19-177-174.jan.bellsouth.net X-Trace: news.spamcop.net 1104635121 31788 68.19.177.174 (2 Jan 2005 03:05:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@news.spamcop.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 03:05:21 +0000 (UTC) Xref: news.spamcop.net control.cancel:4483 From nobody at devull.spamcop.net Sat Jan 1 22:07:40 2005 From: nobody at devull.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sat Jan 1 22:10:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: cancel References: Message-ID: Path: news.spamcop.net!not-for-mail From: me@privacy.net Newsgroups: spamcop.social Subject: cancel Control: cancel Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 03:05:59 +0000 (UTC) Organization: SpamCop Lines: 1 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-19-177-174.jan.bellsouth.net X-Trace: news.spamcop.net 1104635159 31788 68.19.177.174 (2 Jan 2005 03:05:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@news.spamcop.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 03:05:59 +0000 (UTC) Xref: news.spamcop.net control.cancel:4484 From nobody at devull.spamcop.net Sat Jan 1 22:07:57 2005 From: nobody at devull.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sat Jan 1 22:10:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: cancel References: Message-ID: Path: news.spamcop.net!not-for-mail From: nobody@spamcop.net Newsgroups: spamcop.social Subject: cancel Control: cancel Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 03:04:09 +0000 (UTC) Organization: SpamCop Lines: 1 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-19-177-174.jan.bellsouth.net X-Trace: news.spamcop.net 1104635049 31788 68.19.177.174 (2 Jan 2005 03:04:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@news.spamcop.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 03:04:09 +0000 (UTC) Xref: news.spamcop.net control.cancel:4482 From nobody at devnill.spamcop.net Sat Jan 1 22:08:50 2005 From: nobody at devnill.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sat Jan 1 22:10:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: cancel References: Message-ID: Path: news.spamcop.net!not-for-mail From: nobody@spamcop.net Newsgroups: spamcop.social Subject: cancel Control: cancel Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 03:03:58 +0000 (UTC) Organization: SpamCop Lines: 1 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-19-177-174.jan.bellsouth.net X-Trace: news.spamcop.net 1104635038 31788 68.19.177.174 (2 Jan 2005 03:03:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@news.spamcop.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 03:03:58 +0000 (UTC) Xref: news.spamcop.net control.cancel:4481 From nobody at devnill.spamcop.net Sat Jan 1 22:14:12 2005 From: nobody at devnill.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sat Jan 1 22:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: cancel References: Message-ID: Path: news.spamcop.net!not-for-mail From: nobody@spamcop.net Newsgroups: spamcop.social Subject: cancel Control: cancel Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 03:11:05 +0000 (UTC) Organization: SpamCop Lines: 1 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-19-177-174.jan.bellsouth.net X-Trace: news.spamcop.net 1104635465 31788 68.19.177.174 (2 Jan 2005 03:11:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@news.spamcop.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 03:11:05 +0000 (UTC) Xref: news.spamcop.net control.cancel:4492 From me at privacy.net Sat Jan 1 22:02:28 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sat Jan 1 22:20:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Pregnant? No Divorce! References: Message-ID: "JerryMouse" wrote in message news:cr7njj$uus$1@news.spamcop.net... | Woman, mother of two, and man, father of a different two, marry. | | Husband beats wife. | | Husband goes to prison. | | Two years pass. Husband still in prison. Wife files for divorce. Husband | does not contest divorce. | | Wife is, however, pregnant by another man! | | Judge denies divorce to prevent unborn child from being a bastard! Judge | says: "You don't go around doing that when you're not divorced." | | "It's about ... the fundamental right to choose," says the tart's lawyer. | | Story at: | http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/aplocal_story.asp?category=6420&slug=WA%20Divorce%20Denied | | Human interest piece at: | http://www.thestranger.com/current/feature.html | law in most states: current 'husband' can contest parentage and the kid is still (legally) a bastard From nobody at devnill.spamcop.net Sat Jan 1 22:21:12 2005 From: nobody at devnill.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sat Jan 1 22:25:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: cancel References: Message-ID: Path: news.spamcop.net!not-for-mail From: me@privacy.net Newsgroups: spamcop.social Subject: cancel Control: cancel Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 03:05:59 +0000 (UTC) Organization: SpamCop Lines: 1 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-19-177-174.jan.bellsouth.net X-Trace: news.spamcop.net 1104635159 31788 68.19.177.174 (2 Jan 2005 03:05:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@news.spamcop.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 03:05:59 +0000 (UTC) Xref: news.spamcop.net control.cancel:4484 From nobody at devnill.spamcop.net Sat Jan 1 22:21:54 2005 From: nobody at devnill.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sat Jan 1 22:25:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... Message-ID: I'm forwarding back to the newsgroup all the messages that the fuckwit is canceling, just so y'all can see where he's sending them from and send your abuse reports. :) From nobody at devnvll.spamcop.net Sat Jan 1 22:27:16 2005 From: nobody at devnvll.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sat Jan 1 22:30:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: cancel References: Message-ID: wrote in message news:cr7odg$v1c$4@news.spamcop.net... > This message was cancelled from within Mozilla. Path: news.spamcop.net!not-for-mail From: me@privacy.net Newsgroups: spamcop.social Subject: cancel Control: cancel Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 03:05:21 +0000 (UTC) Organization: SpamCop Lines: 1 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-19-177-174.jan.bellsouth.net X-Trace: news.spamcop.net 1104635121 31788 68.19.177.174 (2 Jan 2005 03:05:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@news.spamcop.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 03:05:21 +0000 (UTC) Xref: news.spamcop.net control.cancel:4483 From nobody at devnvll.spamcop.net Sat Jan 1 22:27:47 2005 From: nobody at devnvll.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sat Jan 1 22:30:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: cancel References: Message-ID: wrote in message news:cr7ob9$v1c$3@news.spamcop.net... > This message was cancelled from within Mozilla.\ Path: news.spamcop.net!not-for-mail From: nobody@spamcop.net Newsgroups: spamcop.social Subject: cancel Control: cancel Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 03:04:09 +0000 (UTC) Organization: SpamCop Lines: 1 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-19-177-174.jan.bellsouth.net X-Trace: news.spamcop.net 1104635049 31788 68.19.177.174 (2 Jan 2005 03:04:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@news.spamcop.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 03:04:09 +0000 (UTC) Xref: news.spamcop.net control.cancel:4482 From nobody at devnvll.spamcop.net Sat Jan 1 22:28:12 2005 From: nobody at devnvll.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sat Jan 1 22:30:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: cancel References: Message-ID: wrote in message news:cr7oat$v1c$2@news.spamcop.net... > This message was cancelled from within Mozilla. Path: news.spamcop.net!not-for-mail From: nobody@spamcop.net Newsgroups: spamcop.social Subject: cancel Control: cancel Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 03:03:58 +0000 (UTC) Organization: SpamCop Lines: 1 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-19-177-174.jan.bellsouth.net X-Trace: news.spamcop.net 1104635038 31788 68.19.177.174 (2 Jan 2005 03:03:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@news.spamcop.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 03:03:58 +0000 (UTC) Xref: news.spamcop.net control.cancel:4481 From nobody at devnvll.spamcop.net Sat Jan 1 22:28:37 2005 From: nobody at devnvll.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sat Jan 1 22:30:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: cancel References: Message-ID: wrote in message news:cr7oem$v1c$5@news.spamcop.net... > This message was cancelled from within Mozilla. Path: news.spamcop.net!not-for-mail From: me@privacy.net Newsgroups: spamcop.social Subject: cancel Control: cancel Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 03:05:59 +0000 (UTC) Organization: SpamCop Lines: 1 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-19-177-174.jan.bellsouth.net X-Trace: news.spamcop.net 1104635159 31788 68.19.177.174 (2 Jan 2005 03:05:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@news.spamcop.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 03:05:59 +0000 (UTC) Xref: news.spamcop.net control.cancel:4484 From nobody at devnvll.spamcop.net Sat Jan 1 22:28:55 2005 From: nobody at devnvll.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sat Jan 1 22:30:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: cancel References: Message-ID: wrote in message news:cr7odg$v1c$4@news.spamcop.net... > This message was cancelled from within Mozilla. Path: news.spamcop.net!not-for-mail From: me@privacy.net Newsgroups: spamcop.social Subject: cancel Control: cancel Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 03:05:21 +0000 (UTC) Organization: SpamCop Lines: 1 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-19-177-174.jan.bellsouth.net X-Trace: news.spamcop.net 1104635121 31788 68.19.177.174 (2 Jan 2005 03:05:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@news.spamcop.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 03:05:21 +0000 (UTC) Xref: news.spamcop.net control.cancel:4483 From nobody at devnvll.spamcop.net Sat Jan 1 22:29:14 2005 From: nobody at devnvll.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sat Jan 1 22:30:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: cancel References: Message-ID: wrote in message news:cr7num$up4$11@news.spamcop.net... > This message was cancelled from within Mozilla. Path: news.spamcop.net!not-for-mail From: nobody@spamcop.net Newsgroups: spamcop.social Subject: cancel Control: cancel Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 02:57:28 +0000 (UTC) Organization: SpamCop Lines: 1 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-19-177-174.jan.bellsouth.net X-Trace: news.spamcop.net 1104634648 31524 68.19.177.174 (2 Jan 2005 02:57:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@news.spamcop.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 02:57:28 +0000 (UTC) Xref: news.spamcop.net control.cancel:4479 From nobody at devnvll.spamcop.net Sat Jan 1 22:29:55 2005 From: nobody at devnvll.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sat Jan 1 22:35:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: cancel References: Message-ID: wrote in message news:cr7nu7$up4$10@news.spamcop.net... > This message was cancelled from within Mozilla. Path: news.spamcop.net!not-for-mail From: nobody@spamcop.net Newsgroups: spamcop.social Subject: cancel Control: cancel Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 02:57:12 +0000 (UTC) Organization: SpamCop Lines: 1 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-19-177-174.jan.bellsouth.net X-Trace: news.spamcop.net 1104634632 31524 68.19.177.174 (2 Jan 2005 02:57:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@news.spamcop.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 02:57:12 +0000 (UTC) Xref: news.spamcop.net control.cancel:4478 From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Sat Jan 1 21:30:32 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Cat) Date: Sat Jan 1 22:35:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Heidi wrote: > I'm forwarding back to the newsgroup all the messages that the fuckwit is > canceling, just so y'all can see where he's sending them from and send your > abuse reports. :) In case anyone's wondering, you might want to get your facts straight before you falsely accuse someone of being the troll attempting to cancel s/h/its posts. One would think you'd be appreciative of someone making the effort to rid the newsgroup of the troll instead of dishing out false accusations. I sat on this issue for a long time since people have gotten upset about post canceling in the past, but I find it hard to believe that anyone would complain about the troll's posts disappearing from the newsgroup. If you have a problem with a little troll removal, get over it and stop your childish attempt to trash me as the troll. Since you're apparently so ungrateful, I'll just leave the troll's posts alone now and let them sit...especially the anti-Heidi ones since you're such an ungrateful witch. From nobody at devnvll.spamcop.net Sat Jan 1 22:30:14 2005 From: nobody at devnvll.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sat Jan 1 22:35:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: cancel References: Message-ID: wrote in message news:cr7nss$up4$9@news.spamcop.net... > This message was cancelled from within Mozilla. Path: news.spamcop.net!not-for-mail From: nobody@spamcop.net Newsgroups: spamcop.social Subject: cancel Control: cancel Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 02:56:29 +0000 (UTC) Organization: SpamCop Lines: 1 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-19-177-174.jan.bellsouth.net X-Trace: news.spamcop.net 1104634589 31524 68.19.177.174 (2 Jan 2005 02:56:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@news.spamcop.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 02:56:29 +0000 (UTC) Xref: news.spamcop.net control.cancel:4477 From nobody at devnvll.spamcop.net Sat Jan 1 22:30:36 2005 From: nobody at devnvll.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sat Jan 1 22:35:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: cancel References: Message-ID: wrote in message news:cr7nr5$up4$8@news.spamcop.net... > This message was cancelled from within Mozilla. Path: news.spamcop.net!not-for-mail From: phrack@spamcop.anon Newsgroups: spamcop.social Subject: cancel Control: cancel Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 02:55:34 +0000 (UTC) Organization: SpamCop Lines: 1 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-19-177-174.jan.bellsouth.net X-Trace: news.spamcop.net 1104634534 31524 68.19.177.174 (2 Jan 2005 02:55:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@news.spamcop.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 02:55:34 +0000 (UTC) Xref: news.spamcop.net control.cancel:4476 From nobody at devnvll.spamcop.net Sat Jan 1 22:31:20 2005 From: nobody at devnvll.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sat Jan 1 22:35:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: cancel References: Message-ID: wrote in message news:cr7nqg$up4$7@news.spamcop.net... > This message was cancelled from within Mozilla. Path: news.spamcop.net!not-for-mail From: piper@socialist.com Newsgroups: spamcop.social Subject: cancel Control: cancel Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 02:55:13 +0000 (UTC) Organization: SpamCop Lines: 1 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-19-177-174.jan.bellsouth.net X-Trace: news.spamcop.net 1104634513 31524 68.19.177.174 (2 Jan 2005 02:55:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@news.spamcop.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 02:55:13 +0000 (UTC) Xref: news.spamcop.net control.cancel:4475 From nobody at devnvll.spamcop.net Sat Jan 1 22:31:41 2005 From: nobody at devnvll.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sat Jan 1 22:35:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: cancel References: Message-ID: wrote in message news:cr7ngf$up4$6@news.spamcop.net... > This message was cancelled from within Mozilla. Path: news.spamcop.net!not-for-mail From: nobody@spamcop.net Newsgroups: spamcop.social Subject: cancel Control: cancel Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 02:49:53 +0000 (UTC) Organization: SpamCop Lines: 1 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-19-177-174.jan.bellsouth.net X-Trace: news.spamcop.net 1104634193 31524 68.19.177.174 (2 Jan 2005 02:49:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@news.spamcop.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 02:49:53 +0000 (UTC) Xref: news.spamcop.net control.cancel:4474 From nobody at devnvll.spamcop.net Sat Jan 1 22:32:00 2005 From: nobody at devnvll.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sat Jan 1 22:35:16 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: cancel References: Message-ID: wrote in message news:cr7ng6$up4$5@news.spamcop.net... > This message was cancelled from within Mozilla. Path: news.spamcop.net!not-for-mail From: nobody@spamcop.net Newsgroups: spamcop.social Subject: cancel Control: cancel Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 02:49:43 +0000 (UTC) Organization: SpamCop Lines: 1 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-19-177-174.jan.bellsouth.net X-Trace: news.spamcop.net 1104634183 31524 68.19.177.174 (2 Jan 2005 02:49:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@news.spamcop.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 02:49:43 +0000 (UTC) Xref: news.spamcop.net control.cancel:4473 From nobody at devnvll.spamcop.net Sat Jan 1 22:32:19 2005 From: nobody at devnvll.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sat Jan 1 22:35:17 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: cancel References: Message-ID: wrote in message news:cr7nf5$up4$4@news.spamcop.net... > This message was cancelled from within Mozilla. Path: news.spamcop.net!not-for-mail From: me@privacy.net Newsgroups: spamcop.social Subject: cancel Control: cancel Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 02:49:10 +0000 (UTC) Organization: SpamCop Lines: 1 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-19-177-174.jan.bellsouth.net X-Trace: news.spamcop.net 1104634150 31524 68.19.177.174 (2 Jan 2005 02:49:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@news.spamcop.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 02:49:10 +0000 (UTC) Xref: news.spamcop.net control.cancel:4472 From nobody at devnvll.spamcop.net Sat Jan 1 22:33:15 2005 From: nobody at devnvll.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sat Jan 1 22:35:18 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: cancel References: Message-ID: wrote in message news:cr7nee$up4$3@news.spamcop.net... > This message was cancelled from within Mozilla. Path: news.spamcop.net!not-for-mail From: me@privacy.net Newsgroups: spamcop.social Subject: cancel Control: cancel Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 02:48:48 +0000 (UTC) Organization: SpamCop Lines: 1 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-19-177-174.jan.bellsouth.net X-Trace: news.spamcop.net 1104634128 31524 68.19.177.174 (2 Jan 2005 02:48:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@news.spamcop.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 02:48:48 +0000 (UTC) Xref: news.spamcop.net control.cancel:4471 From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Sat Jan 1 21:34:08 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Cat) Date: Sat Jan 1 22:35:19 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Heidi wrote: > I'm forwarding back to the newsgroup all the messages that the fuckwit is > canceling, just so y'all can see where he's sending them from and send your > abuse reports. :) P.S. Congrats on making a royal ass of yourself with your false accusations and spamming the newsgroup with cancel headers. From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Sat Jan 1 21:44:21 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Cat) Date: Sat Jan 1 22:45:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Cat wrote: > Heidi wrote: > >> I'm forwarding back to the newsgroup all the messages that the fuckwit is >> canceling, just so y'all can see where he's sending them from and send >> your >> abuse reports. :) > > > P.S. Congrats on making a royal ass of yourself with your false > accusations and spamming the newsgroup with cancel headers. While we're at it, you've bitched about certain people's actions in this newsgroup in the past, but posting cancel headers and falsely accusing that person of being a troll seriously crosses a line and is uncalled for. From me at privacy.net Sat Jan 1 19:52:14 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat Jan 1 22:55:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: cancel In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Heidi wrote: > wrote in message news:cr7nee$up4$3@news.spamcop.net... > >>This message was cancelled from within Mozilla. > > Path: news.spamcop.net!not-for-mail > From: me@privacy.net > Newsgroups: spamcop.social > Subject: cancel > Control: cancel > Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 02:48:48 +0000 (UTC) > Organization: SpamCop > Lines: 1 > Message-ID: > References: > NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-19-177-174.jan.bellsouth.net > X-Trace: news.spamcop.net 1104634128 31524 68.19.177.174 (2 Jan 2005 > 02:48:48 GMT) > X-Complaints-To: news@news.spamcop.net > NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 02:48:48 +0000 (UTC) > Xref: news.spamcop.net control.cancel:4471 > > I can see these... but you've not said anything other than to post the headers, right? From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Sat Jan 1 22:00:10 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Cat) Date: Sat Jan 1 23:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Cat wrote: > Heidi wrote: > >> I'm forwarding back to the newsgroup all the messages that the fuckwit is >> canceling, just so y'all can see where he's sending them from and send >> your >> abuse reports. :) One more thing... Since your post explaining your little smear campaign of header spamming seems to have disappeared, I'm posting for the record that I had nothing to do with the canceling of those posts just in case you attempt to accuse me of that as well. If anyone else has a problem with the troll post removals, I will not apologize for it since the troll posts and morphing have gone on long enough without anything being done to stop it. You should not only cancel all your header spams, but you also owe me an apology. From me at privacy.net Sat Jan 1 20:04:13 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat Jan 1 23:05:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Cat" wrote in message news:cr7qmb$1hp$1@news.spamcop.net... > Cat wrote: > > Heidi wrote: > > > >> I'm forwarding back to the newsgroup all the messages that the fuckwit is > >> canceling, just so y'all can see where he's sending them from and send > >> your > >> abuse reports. :) > > > > > > P.S. Congrats on making a royal ass of yourself with your false > > accusations and spamming the newsgroup with cancel headers. > > While we're at it, you've bitched about certain people's actions in this > newsgroup in the past, but posting cancel headers and falsely accusing > that person of being a troll seriously crosses a line and is uncalled for. What in blazes are you talking about Cat? the only person she's accusing of being a troll IS the troll. What seriously crosses lines is people cancelling others' posts. From me at privacy.net Sat Jan 1 20:10:30 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat Jan 1 23:15:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Cat" wrote in message news:cr7pse$i1$1@news.spamcop.net... > Heidi wrote: > > I'm forwarding back to the newsgroup all the messages that the fuckwit is > > canceling, just so y'all can see where he's sending them from and send your > > abuse reports. :) > > > In case anyone's wondering, you might want to get your facts straight > before you falsely accuse someone of being the troll attempting to > cancel s/h/its posts. One would think you'd be appreciative of someone > making the effort to rid the newsgroup of the troll instead of dishing > out false accusations. I sat on this issue for a long time since people > have gotten upset about post canceling in the past, but I find it hard > to believe that anyone would complain about the troll's posts > disappearing from the newsgroup. If you have a problem with a little > troll removal, get over it and stop your childish attempt to trash me as > the troll. Since you're apparently so ungrateful, I'll just leave the > troll's posts alone now and let them sit...especially the anti-Heidi > ones since you're such an ungrateful witch. Are you saying that you've been cancelling "the troll's" messages? Are you sure you haven't been cancelling other messages while you were at it? Some of my messages mysteriously 'expired' off the server and until just now I haven't seen any of Heidi's recent posts either. So if indeed you've been doing something 'clever', please don't do it again. We may not like what the troll has to say but I think that anyone cancelling a post made by someone else is doing something highly unethical and just plain wrong. Just so you know, Heidi doesn't see your posts so she won't have read your response. My reply including your post will enable her to read it. Why should she be grateful when all her posts have been disappearing too? How would she know that the trolls posts have been disappearing when you've been cancelling them? She's complaining about her own posts going missing, not his. Maybe get your facts straight before commenting on the matter! From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Sat Jan 1 22:10:41 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Cat) Date: Sat Jan 1 23:15:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > What in blazes are you talking about Cat? the only person she's accusing of > being a troll IS the troll. What seriously crosses lines is people > cancelling others' posts. She's posting MY headers and accusing ME of being the troll attempting to cover s/h/its tracks. Don't try to defend her actions as ok, because it's not. It's ridiculous that anyone would complain about cancels of troll posts, but if you have a problem with it, then don't complain the next time the troll parades through here with all s/h/its morphing and trolling. From me at privacy.net Sat Jan 1 20:10:55 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat Jan 1 23:15:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Cat" wrote in message news:cr7rk0$21j$1@news.spamcop.net... > One more thing... > Since your post explaining your little smear campaign of header spamming > seems to have disappeared, I'm posting for the record that I had nothing > to do with the canceling of those posts just in case you attempt to > accuse me of that as well. If anyone else has a problem with the troll > post removals, I will not apologize for it since the troll posts and > morphing have gone on long enough without anything being done to stop > it. You should not only cancel all your header spams, but you also owe > me an apology. She owes you nothing. Either your meddling has caused her posts to disappear or someone else is also meddling. She hasn't accused you of anything, she doesn't see your posts and wouldn't have had any reason to suspect you of anything (and neither would the rest of us until you admitted it yourself). So perhaps you owe her an apology for jumping to conclusions and having grossly prejudiced views of everything she has to say. Might I suggest you follow her example and just not read her goddamn posts if she pisses you off so much! From me at privacy.net Sat Jan 1 23:16:23 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sat Jan 1 23:20:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Censorship follies 5: city objects to nude mural--of pigs References: Message-ID: "Rob" < | > > But as the painting's neared completion, Carpenter said she was told | that while painting a building is kosher, pigs and other objects are | considered murals and require a permit. | > > | | Perhaps this is the real reason behind it. Pigs are not kosher to Jews or | halal to Muslims, they are considered dirty. Political correctness gone to extremes?...or a secret plot by the Elders of Zion? ;-) I think it's more about control than anything else. A local 'planning' group proposed a sign ordnance that basically prohibited any signs, inside or outside, that could be 'observed' by a passer by on local business. The key was that the group was lazy and copied word for word a boiler plate ordnance from a municipal association web site. Interesting part was a requirement that all signs be 13 ft from the property line or right of way as the greatest distance from ANY business to the right of way was <12 foot. From me at privacy.net Sat Jan 1 20:18:07 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat Jan 1 23:20:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Cat wrote: > Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > > >> What in blazes are you talking about Cat? the only person she's >> accusing of >> being a troll IS the troll. What seriously crosses lines is people >> cancelling others' posts. > > > She's posting MY headers and accusing ME of being the troll attempting > to cover s/h/its tracks. Don't try to defend her actions as ok, because > it's not. It's ridiculous that anyone would complain about cancels of > troll posts, but if you have a problem with it, then don't complain the > next time the troll parades through here with all s/h/its morphing and > trolling. Look you fool, she doesn't KNOW that they're your headers, how would she? She doesn't see your posts so she wouldn't be able to check the headers against yours! She thinks (as did I) that the troll is/was doing it. Some of my posts have disappeared too. Either something funky is going on with the spamcop server or someone other than you is cancelling posts. I have the ability to ignore the troll. As does Heidi. She's the one who was campaigning for everyone to ignore him, lest you forget. I believe it's wrong to cancel his posts, even though they are full of hate and nothing but a load of spew. I defend his right to say it in what is a public forum. Cancelling his posts was wrong on your part. From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Sat Jan 1 22:21:19 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Cat) Date: Sat Jan 1 23:25:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "Cat" wrote in message > news:cr7pse$i1$1@news.spamcop.net... > >>Heidi wrote: >> >>>I'm forwarding back to the newsgroup all the messages that the fuckwit > > is > >>>canceling, just so y'all can see where he's sending them from and send > > your > >>>abuse reports. :) >> >> >>In case anyone's wondering, you might want to get your facts straight >>before you falsely accuse someone of being the troll attempting to >>cancel s/h/its posts. One would think you'd be appreciative of someone >>making the effort to rid the newsgroup of the troll instead of dishing >>out false accusations. I sat on this issue for a long time since people >>have gotten upset about post canceling in the past, but I find it hard >>to believe that anyone would complain about the troll's posts >>disappearing from the newsgroup. If you have a problem with a little >>troll removal, get over it and stop your childish attempt to trash me as >>the troll. Since you're apparently so ungrateful, I'll just leave the >>troll's posts alone now and let them sit...especially the anti-Heidi >>ones since you're such an ungrateful witch. > > > Are you saying that you've been cancelling "the troll's" messages? Are you > sure you haven't been cancelling other messages while you were at it? Some > of my messages mysteriously 'expired' off the server and until just now I > haven't seen any of Heidi's recent posts either. No, and I find it offensive that you'd accuse me of canceling posts by anyone other than the troll. > So if indeed you've been doing something 'clever', please don't do it again. Since I'm not doing anything "clever," then I guess there's nothing for me to not do again. > We may not like what the troll has to say but I think that anyone cancelling > a post made by someone else is doing something highly unethical and just > plain wrong. > > Just so you know, Heidi doesn't see your posts so she won't have read your > response. My reply including your post will enable her to read it. Why > should she be grateful when all her posts have been disappearing too? How > would she know that the trolls posts have been disappearing when you've been > cancelling them? She's complaining about her own posts going missing, not > his. Did you miss the part where she's posting my headers and labeling them as the troll's headers? I really don't care that she doesn't see my posts since it's her own attitude problem that caused her to block them in the first place. > Maybe get your facts straight before commenting on the matter! I have my facts straight. Anyone who looks at my posts can see where I post from. She's posting MY headers and labeling them as the troll's headers. I commented on the matter because I have a problem with her posting my headers and claiming they're the troll's headers. From me at privacy.net Sat Jan 1 23:17:43 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sat Jan 1 23:25:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Talking of weather........ Earthquakes, anyway..... References: Message-ID: "Porpoise" | Pretty bad what's happened in the Indian Ocean region. | | I have friends who live in Phuket who are fortunate to live far enough back from the sea that they only got slightly wet by the rising water, but with | no force behind it. More importantly, with no debris either - at least not | that could do any damage. | | Having seen the newsreels showing all the amateur video footage it shows it pretty bad but, according to my friends, it doesn't really compare to seeing the aftermath first hand - the destruction is unbelievable. Of course this | is now emerging as one of the biggest disasters in living memory (9/11 pales into insignificance by comparison - not to belittle that event in any way) | and the relief effort is going to require momentous effort. Of course, it's great that my friends and relatives are okay, but our thoughts and prayers | must go out to those who didn't survive and to their families...... Not asserting Devine retribution but ... While God did promise He would not destroy the world (again) with a flood ... He did not say He would not use water to get our undivided attention. From me at privacy.net Sat Jan 1 23:21:42 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sat Jan 1 23:25:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Santa gig --- how much is a fair price to charge. References: Message-ID: "David Dean" | | > I tried the what-ever-you think is fair last week and received $60 from one company and $250 from another for about 3 hours work for each company plus travel time. | | What's wrong with that? Its for charity, let them give as much/little | as they want, you'd be donating your time anyway right? The point is fairness. While I don't care much one way or the other about non profits (some make money on the deal some don't) I am concerned that whatever I do in the commercial market is fair to both parties and is not obtained by undercutting the market. (There are some gray bearded old farts that do this to supplement a meager retirement income.) FWIW 'they' don't know what we do with the money. From nobody at devnvll.spamcop.net Sat Jan 1 23:21:49 2005 From: nobody at devnvll.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sat Jan 1 23:25:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:cr7s8e$2nv$1@news.spamcop.net... > She owes you nothing. Either your meddling has caused her posts to disappear > or someone else is also meddling. She hasn't accused you of anything, she > doesn't see your posts and wouldn't have had any reason to suspect you of > anything (and neither would the rest of us until you admitted it yourself). > So perhaps you owe her an apology for jumping to conclusions and having > grossly prejudiced views of everything she has to say. Might I suggest you > follow her example and just not read her goddamn posts if she pisses you off > so much! > I am ROFL....looks like someone just got caught with her pants down, canceling posts that were not her own..... From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Sat Jan 1 22:26:10 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Cat) Date: Sat Jan 1 23:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > She owes you nothing. Either your meddling has caused her posts to disappear > or someone else is also meddling. She hasn't accused you of anything, she > doesn't see your posts and wouldn't have had any reason to suspect you of > anything (and neither would the rest of us until you admitted it yourself). She may not be directly accusing me of it, but she's posting my headers and loudly proclaiming that they're the troll's headers. If her posts or anyone else's posts are disappearing, don't blame that on me. I don't know who's doing that, but I'm not going to go tearing through the newsgroup posting random cancel headers and falsely labeling them as cancel attemps by the troll. From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Sat Jan 1 22:29:18 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Cat) Date: Sat Jan 1 23:30:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Heidi wrote: > I am ROFL....looks like someone just got caught with her pants down, > canceling posts that were not her own..... They were the troll posts, you idiot! Get over it and move on! From me at privacy.net Sat Jan 1 20:38:02 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat Jan 1 23:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Cat wrote: >> Are you saying that you've been cancelling "the troll's" messages? Are >> you >> sure you haven't been cancelling other messages while you were at it? >> Some >> of my messages mysteriously 'expired' off the server and until just now I >> haven't seen any of Heidi's recent posts either. > > > No, and I find it offensive that you'd accuse me of canceling posts by > anyone other than the troll. I didn't accuse you of that, I asked if you were sure you hadn't made a mistake and cancelled other posts. It seems you've also cancelled at least one of our Oregon friend's posts too, from what I've seen in .cancel. What did he do to piss you off? > >> So if indeed you've been doing something 'clever', please don't do it >> again. > > > Since I'm not doing anything "clever," then I guess there's nothing for > me to not do again. Oh but you've already admitted that you are doing something - ie you're cancelling posts other than your own. > Did you miss the part where she's posting my headers and labeling them > as the troll's headers? I really don't care that she doesn't see my > posts since it's her own attitude problem that caused her to block them > in the first place. No, I didn't miss the part where she posted 'your' headers. She got them from .cancel and wouldn't have known they were yours since it doesn't say 'Cat' on there or have any other identifying marks to make them appear to be yours, hence any filters she has set up would not have removed the posts. All she could see was a cancelled message header which points to bellsouth. She would not know that it was yours and not the troll's because SHE CAN'T SEE YOUR POSTS AND THEREFORE WOULD NOT KNOW THAT THEY ARE YOURS! Get it? > I have my facts straight. Anyone who looks at my posts can see where I > post from. She's posting MY headers and labeling them as the troll's > headers. I commented on the matter because I have a problem with her > posting my headers and claiming they're the troll's headers. no actually, you don't have your facts straight. SHE CAN'T SEE YOUR HEADERS NORMALLY. Do you understand? If she can't see your posts, how would she see your headers? The troll has posted using numerous different posting hosts so bellsouth could just as easily be his as yours, she wouldn't know! I fully expect this very message to mysteriously disappear in a few hours, along with most of my other posts recently. One I made this afternoon at about 4.50pm has already gone. I'm not accusing you of doing it, I don't know what is going on, but something is. From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Sat Jan 1 22:39:37 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Cat) Date: Sat Jan 1 23:40:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > Look you fool, she doesn't KNOW that they're your headers, how would > she? She doesn't see your posts so she wouldn't be able to check the > headers against yours! She thinks (as did I) that the troll is/was doing > it. I'm not a fool, but whatever. She may not know they're my headers, but posting them and labeling them as the troll's headers was wrong of her. She's the one who apparently spends all her free time reading headers over in .cancel. > Some of my posts have disappeared too. Either something funky is > going on with the spamcop server or someone other than you is cancelling > posts. > > I have the ability to ignore the troll. As does Heidi. She's the one who > was campaigning for everyone to ignore him, lest you forget. I believe > it's wrong to cancel his posts, even though they are full of hate and > nothing but a load of spew. I defend his right to say it in what is a > public forum. Cancelling his posts was wrong on your part. I'm not apologizing for it since I had nothing to do with canceling anyone else's posts. As for anyone's right to say what he/she wants to, we may not like when people reply to the troll's posts, but Heidi's "pointed stick" posts dictating who people can or can't reply to are wrong and only draw more attention to the trolls. From me at privacy.net Sat Jan 1 20:39:31 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat Jan 1 23:40:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Cat wrote: > She may not be directly accusing me of it, but she's posting my headers > and loudly proclaiming that they're the troll's headers. If her posts or > anyone else's posts are disappearing, don't blame that on me. I don't > know who's doing that, but I'm not going to go tearing through the > newsgroup posting random cancel headers and falsely labeling them as > cancel attemps by the troll. She didn't know they were your headers so she wasn't 'falsely' accusing YOU of anything. If I were you, i'd have kept quiet about my activities since they are extreme abuses of the AUP. From nobody at spamcop.net Sat Jan 1 23:45:49 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sat Jan 1 23:50:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:cr7tr9$3u6$1@news.spamcop.net... > > I fully expect this very message to mysteriously disappear in a few > hours, along with most of my other posts recently. One I made this > afternoon at about 4.50pm has already gone. I'm not accusing you of > doing it, I don't know what is going on, but something is. Who else besides you and FP use Me@privacy.net? This post, apparently made by you, was canceled by someone, if it wasn't you, who did? Path: news.spamcop.net!not-for-mail From: me@privacy.net Newsgroups: spamcop.social Subject: cancel Control: cancel Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 03:05:59 +0000 (UTC) Organization: SpamCop Lines: 1 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-19-177-174.jan.bellsouth.net X-Trace: news.spamcop.net 1104635159 31788 68.19.177.174 (2 Jan 2005 03:05:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@news.spamcop.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 03:05:59 +0000 (UTC) Xref: news.spamcop.net control.cancel:4484 From me at privacy.net Sat Jan 1 20:52:05 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat Jan 1 23:55:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Cat" wrote in message news:cr7ttv$3uq$1@news.spamcop.net... > I'm not a fool, but whatever. She may not know they're my headers, but > posting them and labeling them as the troll's headers was wrong of her. > She's the one who apparently spends all her free time reading headers > over in .cancel. That's because she's trying to figure out where her posts and my posts are disappearing to. As am I. > I'm not apologizing for it since I had nothing to do with canceling > anyone else's posts. As for anyone's right to say what he/she wants to, > we may not like when people reply to the troll's posts, but Heidi's > "pointed stick" posts dictating who people can or can't reply to are > wrong and only draw more attention to the trolls. you already admitted you cancelled someone else's posts (ie the troll's!) the pointy stick is a joke From nobody at spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 00:01:58 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sun Jan 2 00:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:cr7v5n$4o6$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Heidi" wrote in message > news:cr7uap$49b$1@news.spamcop.net... > > as I suspected, this post of yours has now disappeared, a mere couple of > minutes after I first saw it! > > something mega-weird is going on > this one? "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:cr7tr9$3u6$1@news.spamcop.net... > > I fully expect this very message to mysteriously disappear in a few > hours, along with most of my other posts recently. One I made this > afternoon at about 4.50pm has already gone. I'm not accusing you of > doing it, I don't know what is going on, but something is. Who else besides you and FP use Me@privacy.net? This post, apparently made by you, was canceled by someone, if it wasn't you, who did? Path: news.spamcop.net!not-for-mail From: me@privacy.net Newsgroups: spamcop.social Subject: cancel Control: cancel Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 03:05:59 +0000 (UTC) Organization: SpamCop Lines: 1 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-19-177-174.jan.bellsouth.net X-Trace: news.spamcop.net 1104635159 31788 68.19.177.174 (2 Jan 2005 03:05:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@news.spamcop.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 03:05:59 +0000 (UTC) Xref: news.spamcop.net control.cancel:4484 From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Sat Jan 1 23:07:35 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Cat) Date: Sun Jan 2 00:10:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > I didn't accuse you of that, I asked if you were sure you hadn't made a > mistake and cancelled other posts. It seems you've also cancelled at > least one of our Oregon friend's posts too, from what I've seen in > .cancel. What did he do to piss you off? I didn't cancel one of Paul's posts. At least two of the troll's posts forged Paul's address, which was the offense that got a previous troll banned from the newsgroup. If the troll is starting to forge headers of newsgroup regulars, then that escalates the problem. > No, I didn't miss the part where she posted 'your' headers. She got them > from .cancel and wouldn't have known they were yours since it doesn't > say 'Cat' on there or have any other identifying marks to make them > appear to be yours, hence any filters she has set up would not have > removed the posts. Which brings me to ask why she spends so much time combing over .cancel posts to see where the headers point. > no actually, you don't have your facts straight. SHE CAN'T SEE YOUR > HEADERS NORMALLY. Do you understand? If she can't see your posts, how > would she see your headers? The troll has posted using numerous > different posting hosts so bellsouth could just as easily be his as > yours, she wouldn't know! It doesn't matter. Heidi was wrong to post cancel headers and label them as cancels made by the troll unless she had concrete proof. If she hadn't gone on a .cancel post spam fest, no one would have even noticed or cared that the troll's posts had disappeared. > I fully expect this very message to mysteriously disappear in a few > hours, along with most of my other posts recently. One I made this > afternoon at about 4.50pm has already gone. I'm not accusing you of > doing it, I don't know what is going on, but something is. I don't know what's going on with those either, but try checking .cancel for them and where those particular cancel headers might be coming from. I see one cancel from hinet.net, which showed in the headers of at least some of the troll posts. I may know how to cancel posts, but I don't know how to make them look like they came from somewhere else, which is why my own ISP info showed up in the headers. If she goes through and cancels her own posts of my headers and accusations, I'll go through and cancel my own replies about this issue so we can all move on and stop giving the troll more attention. From me at privacy.net Sat Jan 1 21:07:27 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sun Jan 2 00:10:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: <41D7818F.6000603@privacy.net> Heidi wrote: > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:cr7v5n$4o6$1@news.spamcop.net... > >>"Heidi" wrote in message >>news:cr7uap$49b$1@news.spamcop.net... >> >>as I suspected, this post of yours has now disappeared, a mere couple of >>minutes after I first saw it! >> >>something mega-weird is going on >> > > this one? Yes. When I tried to download new messages on another newsreader, it wasn't there. Now that I've replied to this one using.. oh where am I.. Netscape Mail, I'll try to download your message using Thunderbird and see if it's already gone. In fact I'll check now with that one. Ah indeed... it's not appearing on Thunderbird, a mere 5 mins after you posted it. > > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:cr7tr9$3u6$1@news.spamcop.net... > >>I fully expect this very message to mysteriously disappear in a few >>hours, along with most of my other posts recently. One I made this >>afternoon at about 4.50pm has already gone. I'm not accusing you of >>doing it, I don't know what is going on, but something is. > > > Who else besides you and FP use Me@privacy.net? This post, apparently made > by you, was canceled by someone, if it wasn't you, who did? > > Path: news.spamcop.net!not-for-mail > From: me@privacy.net > Newsgroups: spamcop.social > Subject: cancel > Control: cancel > Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 03:05:59 +0000 (UTC) > Organization: SpamCop > Lines: 1 > Message-ID: > References: > NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-19-177-174.jan.bellsouth.net > X-Trace: news.spamcop.net 1104635159 31788 68.19.177.174 (2 Jan 2005 > 03:05:59 GMT) > X-Complaints-To: news@news.spamcop.net > NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 03:05:59 +0000 (UTC) > Xref: news.spamcop.net control.cancel:4484 > > > From me at privacy.net Sat Jan 1 21:14:43 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sun Jan 2 00:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: <41D78343.8030302@privacy.net> Cat wrote: > I didn't cancel one of Paul's posts. At least two of the troll's posts > forged Paul's address, which was the offense that got a previous troll > banned from the newsgroup. If the troll is starting to forge headers of > newsgroup regulars, then that escalates the problem. Well then somehow the troll is forging your posting host too because it says it was cancelled from a bellsouth account. Check the cancels for a baloo cancel and look at the headers. Unless for some reason Paul logs on from bellsouth (highly unlikely given that he's in Oregon), something not quite right is going on. > Which brings me to ask why she spends so much time combing over .cancel > posts to see where the headers point. Because, like me, she's trying to figure out where our missing posts are going and if someone (ie the troll) is doing it. As I've not seen any of his recent posts I don't know if he's been gloating about it or not! > It doesn't matter. Heidi was wrong to post cancel headers and label them > as cancels made by the troll unless she had concrete proof. If she > hadn't gone on a .cancel post spam fest, no one would have even noticed > or cared that the troll's posts had disappeared. You're right, nobody would have cared about the troll's posts disappearing - we'd have thought he'd just got bored. But our posts are disappearing too and that's why it's been noted, quite accidentally. > I don't know what's going on with those either, but try checking .cancel > for them and where those particular cancel headers might be coming > from. I see one cancel from hinet.net, which showed in the headers of at > least some of the troll posts. I may know how to cancel posts, but I > don't know how to make them look like they came from somewhere else, > which is why my own ISP info showed up in the headers. If she goes > through and cancels her own posts of my headers and accusations, I'll go > through and cancel my own replies about this issue so we can all move on > and stop giving the troll more attention. There's no need for her or me to cancel anything because our posts are disappearing off of here pretty quickly from what I can tell. The troll has posted from numerous different hosts but usually the IP stays the same for a while. If you go thru some recent cancels you can see he had at least 10 different identities but the same IP the whole time. The guy is obviously a few marbles short. I wonder if he tortures animals too. From me at privacy.net Sat Jan 1 21:20:26 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sun Jan 2 00:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] I think I know what's going on... sort of Message-ID: He's cancelling the cancels so it makes it harder to trace back so unless we actually catch them while they're still on there with the right headers, we have no proof. The baloo one has disappeared off there already, as have some others that I looked at earlier. I think we should all just stop posting for a while, the cretin will get bored eventually then maybe JT can figure something out to bar his sorry ass. From devnull at spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 00:21:22 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sun Jan 2 00:25:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: <41D78343.8030302@privacy.net> Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:41D78343.8030302@privacy.net... > The guy is obviously a few marbles short. I wonder if he tortures animals too. The guy is obviously a clueless wanker who gets his jollies trying to show us all how smart he is... what he doesn't realize is that he's leaving a trail a mile long that isn't getting deleted and will hopefully come back to bite him in his pimply white ass. From devnull at spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 00:23:16 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sun Jan 2 00:25:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: I think I know what's going on... sort of References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:cr80ap$5ls$1@news.spamcop.net... > He's cancelling the cancels so it makes it harder to trace back so unless we > actually catch them while they're still on there with the right headers, we > have no proof. The baloo one has disappeared off there already, as have some > others that I looked at earlier. That only works if the posts are not being copied before he cancels them. And they are. ;) From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Sat Jan 1 23:26:56 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Cat) Date: Sun Jan 2 00:30:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... In-Reply-To: <41D78343.8030302@privacy.net> References: <41D78343.8030302@privacy.net> Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > > Cat wrote: > >> I didn't cancel one of Paul's posts. At least two of the troll's posts >> forged Paul's address, which was the offense that got a previous troll >> banned from the newsgroup. If the troll is starting to forge headers >> of newsgroup regulars, then that escalates the problem. > > > Well then somehow the troll is forging your posting host too because it > says it was cancelled from a bellsouth account. Check the cancels for a > baloo cancel and look at the headers. Unless for some reason Paul logs > on from bellsouth (highly unlikely given that he's in Oregon), something > not quite right is going on. I'll rephrase my previous comments on this since it didn't come out more clearly. I saw two separate posts by the troll with Paul's address and a fake name forged. I canceled one of those but then decided it was better to just leave them since anyone looking at headers could see that someone forged Paul's address and also that it was an insult responding to one of Paul's posts. Paul's posts usually have PGP or his sig in them, so someone looking at headers could see that it was a forgery by the troll. From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Sat Jan 1 23:28:39 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Cat) Date: Sun Jan 2 00:30:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > Cat wrote: > > >> She may not be directly accusing me of it, but she's posting my >> headers and loudly proclaiming that they're the troll's headers. If >> her posts or anyone else's posts are disappearing, don't blame that on >> me. I don't know who's doing that, but I'm not going to go tearing >> through the newsgroup posting random cancel headers and falsely >> labeling them as cancel attemps by the troll. > > > She didn't know they were your headers so she wasn't 'falsely' accusing > YOU of anything. If I were you, i'd have kept quiet about my activities > since they are extreme abuses of the AUP. If I were her, I'd have kept my suspicions to myself until I had absolute proof of who did something. Anyone who thinks I should have minded my own business should also recognize that Heidi should have also minded her own business instead of posting "proof" that someone's cancels were cancels made by the troll. Should I also wonder if she'll search through cancel looking for headers where I canceled my own posts for various reasons and make public accusations about those as well? From nobody at spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 00:32:46 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Sun Jan 2 00:30:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Mary and Joseph, stay out of Elizabeth City, N.C. References: Message-ID: I can't go back to the original post, but if I remember correctly, the minister did say that this person had a problem with the rules or something along those lines. However, whether or not that was a a factor, in some situations, there cannot be exceptions to the rules for a number of reasons. I have mentioned a couple - the 'lesson' that one can't be just 'a little pregnant' or 'a little bit of stealing' and that it is too difficult to administer the rules fairly when sometimes the 'family members' are the ones who are causing the problems. Truly 'temporary' shelters do not have to have such strict rules because the circumstances are different. 'Profiling' is unfair, but we all do it. It is a handy way of sizing up situations quickly because most of the time if people fit the profile, they do generally act the way we expect. There is a fine line between being prudent and being optimistic about a person's behavior. I am all for 'expecting' people to be honest, polite, and friendly and, for the most part, assuming that they will be, makes the possibility that they are, greater. OTOH, sometimes it is wise to be prudent. To get back to the assumptions of this case - if the homeless shelter was being strict, then, to be optimistic, it was being strict for the good of all those in the shelter. If it was for their good, then the reasons I have stated are probably the reasons and therefore, the person was as I have assumed. If I were wrong, and the minister was just being a control freak, it is unlikely that that shelter would be the only one in town because control freaks are not generally supported by the whole town and those who see a need will have alternate facilities. Unless you can point to a better solution for this mother and children that actually exists and that you are willing to support (through contributions or taxes), IMHO, you don't have any basis to make a criticism. Miss Betsy From me at privacy.net Sat Jan 1 21:33:07 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sun Jan 2 00:35:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Cat" wrote in message news:cr80pt$5uf$2@news.spamcop.net... > > She didn't know they were your headers so she wasn't 'falsely' accusing > > YOU of anything. If I were you, i'd have kept quiet about my activities > > since they are extreme abuses of the AUP. > > If I were her, I'd have kept my suspicions to myself until I had > absolute proof of who did something. Anyone who thinks I should have > minded my own business should also recognize that Heidi should have also > minded her own business instead of posting "proof" that someone's > cancels were cancels made by the troll. Should I also wonder if she'll > search through cancel looking for headers where I canceled my own posts > for various reasons and make public accusations about those as well? Cat, the problem here is the troll. Not you, not Heidi. He's going crazy cancelling posts at the moment. Anything that incriminates him, he's cancelling. Then he cancels it again so that it covers his tracks. Get over your hatred of Heidi for the moment and realise where the problem is. From me at privacy.net Sat Jan 1 21:39:08 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sun Jan 2 00:40:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] what's up trollboi... harder to remove that with a few changes huh? Message-ID: From devnull at spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 00:38:41 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sun Jan 2 00:40:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: I think I know what's going on... sort of References: Message-ID: "SylvesterthekatSylvesterthekatSylvesterthekatSylvesterthekatSylvesterthekat " wrote in message news:cr8187$6c3$1@news.spamcop.net... > The troll is cancelling his cancels to cover his tracks. The cancel > supposedly made by Paul (baloo) has disappeared and simply a buttload of > cancels from the troll have appeared in the last hour, all of them from the > same ip 199.203.54.66 yet mysteriously from different posting hosts. This > guy is a crackpot. If you really want a laugh, watch .test - what a jerk..... From devnull at spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 00:39:59 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sun Jan 2 00:45:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: what's up trollboi... harder to remove that with a few changes huh? References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:cr81dr$6fn$1@news.spamcop.net... ROFL........ From nobody at spamcop.net Sat Jan 1 23:43:51 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (RW) Date: Sun Jan 2 00:45:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Messages being cancelled References: Message-ID: "David 1" wrote in message news:cr6rqt$egu$1@news.spamcop.net... >>> Corporate Email service EDEL-195-32-7 (NET-216-154-195-32-1) >>> 216.154.195.32 - 216.154.195.63 > didn't say it was, I don't know who or waht I was just trying to help > Mike out, figured if he got scaned then maybe the person that scaned me > scaned him to & he could compare if he chose to Since Corporate Email service is the SpamCop mail service, it was probably you retrieving messages from the news server. Richard From nobody at spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 00:46:41 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Sun Jan 2 00:45:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Good-O for Wal-Mart References: <1103254204.627008@ursine.dyndns.org> Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:cr2vbo$6qn$1@news.spamcop.net... > Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > > Is there really no option but Wal Mart for you to shop in? Like, > > ANYWHERE else but there? > > Some places that IS the only option short of driving half way across the > state. > IIRC, that was Sam Walton's 'plan' - to provide retail services to places that didn't have them. Kind of like Woolworth's 'plan' to provide affordable goods to people who couldn't afford 'quality' products. I am not sure that Mr. Woolworth would have approved of 'cheap' products that put everyday people out of jobs. My mother, who was born in 1902, said that the minimum wage had destroyed jobs for the 'slow' who could be contributing members of society by being delivery boys, etc., but with the minimum wage, no one could afford to pay them any longer and they were now burdens on society. (Although some people have developed sheltered workshops and cleaning businesses). The point is that one never knows where ideas will lead. Miss Betsy From devnull at spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 00:43:34 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sun Jan 2 00:45:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: what's up trollboi... harder to remove that with a few changes huh? References: Message-ID: "SylvesterthekatSylvesterthekatSylvesterthekatSylvesterthekatSylvesterthekat " wrote > Either he blew a fuse trying to figure out how many Sylvesterthekats I > used in my name or mommy came home and made him switch his computer off > for the night. LOL..if you keep changing things he can't keep up with it....it'll drive him MAD! MAD I TELL YOU!!!!!! From devnull at privacy1834818401939109hi.co.uk Sat Jan 1 22:27:09 2005 From: devnull at privacy1834818401939109hi.co.uk (SylvesterthekatSylvesterthekatSylvesterthekatSylvesterthekat) Date: Sun Jan 2 01:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] oh hey trollboi... too late, I caught you red handed Message-ID: and I've kept all the evidence! so you cancel away shithead, I have what I need now and with any luck, you're toast. From devnull at spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 01:33:09 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sun Jan 2 01:35:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Aww..... References: Message-ID: I'm reposting this because it got deleted. If anyone happened to download it before it got deleted and and has the message ID, please post it, I want to know who deleted it. "Bob W." wrote in message news:responseguard-2B2453.20060231122004@news.cesmail.net... > In article , > > Ooh, yeah... My heart bleeds for her. > > It'll make it tougher for her to afford whatever drugs she's on. "Trimspa baby!" I had no idea you snorted that stuff..... From devnull at privacy1834818401939109hi.co.uk Sat Jan 1 22:49:18 2005 From: devnull at privacy1834818401939109hi.co.uk (SylvesterthekatSylvesterthekatSylvesterthekatSylvesterthekat) Date: Sun Jan 2 01:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Aww..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bob W. wrote: > Yeah, it's really sad. > > Then again, maybe not as sad as that diet pill company continuing to use > her for ads-- and even buying more airtime than ever with this > sweepstakes thing they're doing. Have you seen that ad? She's just as > stoned as ever in it. > > Freaky-diki! > Hell, I bet anyone can lose weight on a crack/cocaine fueled diet! Hey Bob, make the most of this post while you can see it, the troll will cancel it just as soon as he sees it! (hence my crazy name) From me at privacy.net Sat Jan 1 22:53:43 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sun Jan 2 01:55:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Bob W." wrote in message news:responseguard-F22D63.22503301012005@news.cesmail.net... > In article , > Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > > Cat wrote: > > > > > > > She may not be directly accusing me of it, but she's posting my headers > > > and loudly proclaiming that they're the troll's headers. If her posts or > > > anyone else's posts are disappearing, don't blame that on me. I don't > > > know who's doing that, but I'm not going to go tearing through the > > > newsgroup posting random cancel headers and falsely labeling them as > > > cancel attemps by the troll. > > > > She didn't know they were your headers so she wasn't 'falsely' accusing > > YOU of anything. If I were you, i'd have kept quiet about my activities > > since they are extreme abuses of the AUP. > > Sly... > > Why bother with her? > > It's clear that she's decided to turn this into an episode of "Troll vs. > Troll.". > > Maybe she thinks it's "fighting fire with fire", but I've pretty much > had enough of her vitriol. > > If she wants to run things, let her run them. > > While the rest of us drop her into the Bozo Box. Oh I'm far more concerned with the troll at the moment who is feverishly cancelling mine and Heidi's posts while she (Cat) cancels his. I finally caught him red handed and have the evidence safely copied where he can't delete it! I hope JT or whoever runs this show will take it seriously and nuke this idiot if he can. Otherwise, I shan't bother posting here for a couple of months until the childish shithead gets bored. From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 01:10:58 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Cat) Date: Sun Jan 2 02:15:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bob W. wrote: > In article , > Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > >>Cat wrote: >> >> >> >>>She may not be directly accusing me of it, but she's posting my headers >>>and loudly proclaiming that they're the troll's headers. If her posts or >>>anyone else's posts are disappearing, don't blame that on me. I don't >>>know who's doing that, but I'm not going to go tearing through the >>>newsgroup posting random cancel headers and falsely labeling them as >>>cancel attemps by the troll. >> >>She didn't know they were your headers so she wasn't 'falsely' accusing >>YOU of anything. If I were you, i'd have kept quiet about my activities >>since they are extreme abuses of the AUP. > > > Sly... > > Why bother with her? > > It's clear that she's decided to turn this into an episode of "Troll vs. > Troll.". > > Maybe she thinks it's "fighting fire with fire", but I've pretty much > had enough of her vitriol. > > If she wants to run things, let her run them. > > While the rest of us drop her into the Bozo Box. Was this directed toward me or Heidi? If it was directed toward me, I don't understand why you'd suddenly start referring to my posts as "vitriol" and say that the whole newsgroup should plonk me. I don't think one thread where I had issues with another person's accusations about cancel posts without concrete proof to back up those accusations warranted such a response about me. Whether or not I did the right thing, I had reasonable issues with Heidi's mistaken assumptions regarding headers that led back to me. Yes, I suppose I could have just ignored it since only those who hang out in .cancel looking at where cancel headers come from or those who look at every post in the newsgroup to see where it comes from could have linked it with me, but seeing my own headers posted repeatedly and wrongfully labeled as cancels by the troll was a bit more than I could take. From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Sun Jan 2 07:00:47 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Sun Jan 2 02:15:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: Cat wrote previously: >>> She may not be directly accusing me of it, but she's posting my headers >>> and loudly proclaiming that they're the troll's headers. If her posts or >>> anyone else's posts are disappearing, don't blame that on me. I don't >>> know who's doing that, but I'm not going to go tearing through the >>> newsgroup posting random cancel headers and falsely labeling them as >>> cancel attemps by the troll. >> In response to which Sylvesterthekat wrote: >> She didn't know they were your headers so she wasn't 'falsely' accusing >> YOU of anything. If I were you, i'd have kept quiet about my activities >> since they are extreme abuses of the AUP. > and then "Cat" wrote in message news:cr80pt$5uf$2@news.spamcop.net... > If I were her, I'd have kept my suspicions to myself until I had absolute > proof of who did something. Anyone who thinks I should have minded my own > business should also recognize that Heidi should have also minded her own > business instead of posting "proof" that someone's cancels were cancels > made by the troll. Should I also wonder if she'll search through cancel > looking for headers where I canceled my own posts for various reasons and > make public accusations about those as well? Phew! Just jumping in to ask a question here. What are these people f*****g 10 year olds? GROW UP! All of you. God it's like listening to one of those "My daddy's bigger than your daddy". kids arguments....... From SCNews.5.myspamgobbler at spamgourmet.com Sat Jan 1 23:12:58 2005 From: SCNews.5.myspamgobbler at spamgourmet.com (Spam N Scams Reporter) Date: Sun Jan 2 02:15:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... In-Reply-To: References: <41D78343.8030302@privacy.net> Message-ID: Cat wrote: > Sylvesterthekat wrote: > >> >> >> Cat wrote: >> >>> I didn't cancel one of Paul's posts. At least two of the troll's >>> posts forged Paul's address, which was the offense that got a >>> previous troll banned from the newsgroup. If the troll is starting to >>> forge headers of newsgroup regulars, then that escalates the problem. >> >> >> >> Well then somehow the troll is forging your posting host too because >> it says it was cancelled from a bellsouth account. Check the cancels >> for a baloo cancel and look at the headers. Unless for some reason >> Paul logs on from bellsouth (highly unlikely given that he's in >> Oregon), something not quite right is going on. > > > I'll rephrase my previous comments on this since it didn't come out more > clearly. I saw two separate posts by the troll with Paul's address and a > fake name forged. I canceled one of those but then decided it was better > to just leave them since anyone looking at headers could see that > someone forged Paul's address and also that it was an insult responding > to one of Paul's posts. Paul's posts usually have PGP or his sig in > them, so someone looking at headers could see that it was a forgery by > the troll. I've been spending time in cancel too, trying to figure this out. We all need to take a big breath and settle down. The troll is enjoying this. Many posts have been canceled or expired. This is coming from a few different IP addresses that the Troll has used in the past to post from. Maybe they are forged. I don't know. But getting upset with each other is not going to help. Brian From me at privacy.net Sat Jan 1 23:18:41 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sun Jan 2 02:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Porpoise" wrote in message news:cr86rg$a9l$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Cat wrote previously: > >>> She may not be directly accusing me of it, but she's posting my headers > >>> and loudly proclaiming that they're the troll's headers. If her posts or > >>> anyone else's posts are disappearing, don't blame that on me. I don't > >>> know who's doing that, but I'm not going to go tearing through the > >>> newsgroup posting random cancel headers and falsely labeling them as > >>> cancel attemps by the troll. > >> > > In response to which Sylvesterthekat wrote: > >> She didn't know they were your headers so she wasn't 'falsely' accusing > >> YOU of anything. If I were you, i'd have kept quiet about my activities > >> since they are extreme abuses of the AUP. > > > > and then "Cat" wrote in message > news:cr80pt$5uf$2@news.spamcop.net... > > If I were her, I'd have kept my suspicions to myself until I had absolute > > proof of who did something. Anyone who thinks I should have minded my own > > business should also recognize that Heidi should have also minded her own > > business instead of posting "proof" that someone's cancels were cancels > > made by the troll. Should I also wonder if she'll search through cancel > > looking for headers where I canceled my own posts for various reasons and > > make public accusations about those as well? > > > Phew! Just jumping in to ask a question here. > > What are these people f*****g 10 year olds? > > GROW UP! All of you. God it's like listening to one of those "My daddy's > bigger than your daddy". kids arguments....... Um Porp, try having all your posts cancelled and see if you don't get a bit pissed off. How many of Heidi's posts from today do you see? How many of mine? Trust me, a LOT of them have been cancelled by the troll (not Cat, who is cancelling his posts). And besides that, I don't think I was behaving like a 10 year old at any point. From devnull at privacy1834818401939109hi.co.uk Sat Jan 1 23:23:00 2005 From: devnull at privacy1834818401939109hi.co.uk (SylvesterthekatSylvesterthekatSylvesterthekatSylvesterthekat) Date: Sun Jan 2 02:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... In-Reply-To: References: <41D78343.8030302@privacy.net> Message-ID: Spam N Scams Reporter wrote: > I've been spending time in cancel too, trying to figure this out. We all > need to take a big breath and settle down. The troll is enjoying this. > > Many posts have been canceled or expired. This is coming from a few > different IP addresses that the Troll has used in the past to post from. > Maybe they are forged. I don't know. But getting upset with each other > is not going to help. I've now got the proof I need but what good it'll do when he's just using open proxies, I don't know. He'll just find other open proxies if those get blocked. So it's simply going to be a matter of waiting for the moron to get bored. From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Sun Jan 2 07:15:53 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Sun Jan 2 02:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:cr878g$afe$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Porpoise" wrote in message > news:cr86rg$a9l$1@news.spamcop.net... >> >> Cat wrote previously: >> >>> She may not be directly accusing me of it, but she's posting my > headers >> >>> and loudly proclaiming that they're the troll's headers. If her posts > or >> >>> anyone else's posts are disappearing, don't blame that on me. I don't >> >>> know who's doing that, but I'm not going to go tearing through the >> >>> newsgroup posting random cancel headers and falsely labeling them as >> >>> cancel attemps by the troll. >> >> >> >> In response to which Sylvesterthekat wrote: >> >> She didn't know they were your headers so she wasn't 'falsely' >> >> accusing >> >> YOU of anything. If I were you, i'd have kept quiet about my >> >> activities >> >> since they are extreme abuses of the AUP. >> > >> >> and then "Cat" wrote in message >> news:cr80pt$5uf$2@news.spamcop.net... >> > If I were her, I'd have kept my suspicions to myself until I had > absolute >> > proof of who did something. Anyone who thinks I should have minded my > own >> > business should also recognize that Heidi should have also minded her > own >> > business instead of posting "proof" that someone's cancels were cancels >> > made by the troll. Should I also wonder if she'll search through cancel >> > looking for headers where I canceled my own posts for various reasons > and >> > make public accusations about those as well? >> >> >> Phew! Just jumping in to ask a question here. >> >> What are these people f*****g 10 year olds? >> >> GROW UP! All of you. God it's like listening to one of those "My daddy's >> bigger than your daddy". kids arguments....... > > Um Porp, try having all your posts cancelled and see if you don't get a > bit > pissed off. How many of Heidi's posts from today do you see? How many of > mine? Trust me, a LOT of them have been cancelled by the troll (not Cat, > who > is cancelling his posts). And besides that, I don't think I was behaving > like a 10 year old at any point. > Well having just waded through 30-odd of these, would you like to read through them all again and then still come back and tell me you don't sound like a bunch of kids ding-donging? From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 01:49:10 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Cat) Date: Sun Jan 2 02:50:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > Um Porp, try having all your posts cancelled and see if you don't get a bit > pissed off. How many of Heidi's posts from today do you see? How many of > mine? Trust me, a LOT of them have been cancelled by the troll (not Cat, who > is cancelling his posts). I think you mean was canceling since I had stopped cancelling the troll's posts before Heidi ever posted about it. There are a couple of cancels from me since then, but those were my own posts where I needed to fix or add something in one of my own replies. I thought about canceling all of my own posts in this particular thread since things blew up the way they did and didn't need any more aggravation, but then some people would have also questioned my reasons for that. From SCNews.5.myspamgobbler at spamgourmet.com Sun Jan 2 00:28:14 2005 From: SCNews.5.myspamgobbler at spamgourmet.com (Spam N Scams Reporter) Date: Sun Jan 2 03:30:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bob W. wrote: > In article , > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote: > > > >>Oh I'm far more concerned with the troll at the moment who is feverishly >>cancelling mine and Heidi's posts while she (Cat) cancels his. I finally >>caught him red handed and have the evidence safely copied where he can't >>delete it! I hope JT or whoever runs this show will take it seriously and >>nuke this idiot if he can. Otherwise, I shan't bother posting here for a >>couple of months until the childish shithead gets bored. > > > Well, if JT takes *a couple of months* to do something about this... > Well, I'd be surprised if he did, but if he did, I'd call for his > resignation (not that I'm expecting to have to). > > Something needs to be done. > > This group may be "just .social", but it's still important to a lot of > people... and to SpamCop. > The thing of it is, is there are a lot of posts from .spamcop and .help and .mail that have been canceled as well. I'm working up a list. Will report back later. I know that it started back on 12/14 if not sooner. I didn't look back any further. Brian From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 02:43:24 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Cat) Date: Sun Jan 2 03:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... In-Reply-To: References: <41D78343.8030302@privacy.net> Message-ID: Spam N Scams Reporter wrote: > I've been spending time in cancel too, trying to figure this out. We all > need to take a big breath and settle down. The troll is enjoying this. > > Many posts have been canceled or expired. This is coming from a few > different IP addresses that the Troll has used in the past to post from. > Maybe they are forged. I don't know. But getting upset with each other > is not going to help. > > Brian One IP that you mentioned from cancels in your post in the main group is my IP, not the troll's IP. The only posts I touched were the troll's posts. I don't know how the troll figured out ways to make other posts completely disappear both here and in cancel. From neteffect at some.where.else Sun Jan 2 08:59:18 2005 From: neteffect at some.where.else (net effect) Date: Sun Jan 2 04:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: <41D78343.8030302@privacy.net> Message-ID: SylvesterthekatSylvesterthekatSylvesterthekatSylvesterthekat wrote: > Spam N Scams Reporter wrote: > > >> I've been spending time in cancel too, trying to figure this out. >> We all need to take a big breath and settle down. The troll is >> enjoying this. >> >> Many posts have been canceled or expired. This is coming from a few >> different IP addresses that the Troll has used in the past to post from. >> Maybe they are forged. I don't know. But getting upset with each other >> is not going to help. > > I've now got the proof I need but what good it'll do when he's just > using open proxies, I don't know. He'll just find other open proxies if > those get blocked. So it's simply going to be a matter of waiting for > the moron to get bored. lol! glad to see you found the easter egg we left for you & have fun with that, OK? hope you had fun sorting through all the other shit in the grabage dump? it's gonna really funny to watch you sorry f00ls chase after yet another dead end. roflmao! you people are SOOOO fuckin st00pid it's almost unbelievable. SPNAK! :-) From neteffect at some.where.else Sun Jan 2 09:11:32 2005 From: neteffect at some.where.else (net effect) Date: Sun Jan 2 04:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Hey Heidi Hog Bitch Message-ID: so how's it feel to know that several people around the world are laughin' their phuckin asses off at you right now? lol! do you live in the cancel bin? do you sit in the test group and just wait for posts to "magically" appear? do you always go for the "obvious" without stopping to think first? in other words, DO YOU HAVE NO LIFE AT ALL??? BWAHAHAHAHA! st00pid question, we all know the answer to that one... :-) Only one thing left to add... SPNAK! :-) From nobody at spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 09:33:23 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (D€ja vu) Date: Sun Jan 2 04:35:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Hey Heidi Hog Bitch References: Message-ID: net effect wrote: > so how's it feel to know that several people around the world > are laughin' their phuckin asses off at you right now? > > lol! do you live in the cancel bin? do you sit in the test group > and just wait for posts to "magically" appear? do you always go > for the "obvious" without stopping to think first? > > in other words, DO YOU HAVE NO LIFE AT ALL??? > > BWAHAHAHAHA! st00pid question, we all know the answer to that > one... :-) > > Only one thing left to add... > > SPNAK! > > :-) > Bwahahahha, OWN€D, oink oink, and all that. And oh yeah, Happy New Year. :-) From avoozl at spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 03:50:23 2005 From: avoozl at spamcop.net (Chris F. Willoughby) Date: Sun Jan 2 06:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Season's Greetings References: <1103843603.392281@ursine.dyndns.org> Message-ID: Heh, the assumption was 'served in the military in some capacity' Chris "Tim McGraw" wrote in message news:cqnb0j$fnj$1@news.spamcop.net... > Chris F. Willoughby wrote: >> Well, I think anyone who served during that time in that country should be considered a vet. > > Even if they served in Congress? > From devnull at spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 08:21:20 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sun Jan 2 08:25:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Porpoise" wrote in message news:cr88nb$bc3$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Well having just waded through 30-odd of these, would you like to read > through them all again and then still come back and tell me you don't sound > like a bunch of kids ding-donging? > You are ENTIRELY missing the point. There is a very simple principle at stake her, and that is, you do NOT cancel posts belonging to anyone else, ever, unless you are the Admin for the group. If you don't like what someone says, learn to use a fucking KILLFILE, Cat won't do that because she enjoys ripping people new assholes as often as possible, it feeds her desperately insecure, narcissistic personality. So she's taken it upon herself to escalate a situation by sticking her nose in where it didn't belong, and playing cop canceling posts which she did not own, while it could be most easily handled by using a killifile and ignoring the jerk, From devnull at spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 08:56:53 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sun Jan 2 09:00:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Bob W." wrote in message news:responseguard-527CB9.00163002012005@news.cesmail.net... > > Someone made a mistake. It was accidental, but it wasn't a mistake. Cat resides deep in my killfile for what should now be very obvious reasons, I only know what what I saw in .cancel, which was troll-like behavior, changing user names and canceling posts. Unless you're the Admin, you don't cancel posts that you don't own, PERIOD, and that's what she got caught doing, she got caught doing it because she was acting the very same way the troll was acting. Entirely self-inflicted. From me at privacy.net Sun Jan 2 06:05:53 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sun Jan 2 09:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Cat" wrote in message news:cr891c$bes$1@news.spamcop.net... > I think you mean was canceling since I had stopped cancelling the > troll's posts before Heidi ever posted about it. There are a couple of > cancels from me since then, but those were my own posts where I needed > to fix or add something in one of my own replies. I thought about > canceling all of my own posts in this particular thread since things > blew up the way they did and didn't need any more aggravation, but then > some people would have also questioned my reasons for that. Well I haven't been looking for your cancels, just his, so I hadn't noticed and wouldn't have done if you hadn't mentioned it! From me at privacy.net Sun Jan 2 06:08:32 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sun Jan 2 09:10:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Bob W." wrote in message news:responseguard-17BF43.00184102012005@news.cesmail.net... > Well, if JT takes *a couple of months* to do something about this... > Well, I'd be surprised if he did, but if he did, I'd call for his > resignation (not that I'm expecting to have to). > > Something needs to be done. > > This group may be "just .social", but it's still important to a lot of > people... and to SpamCop. LOL, who employs him? But really, there's not much he can do, I think, because morphboi will just use another open proxy. However, if it makes life momentarily difficult for him, so much the better. From devnull at spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 09:51:56 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sun Jan 2 09:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:cr8v8v$oc2$1@news.spamcop.net... > > LOL, who employs him? But really, there's not much he can do, I think, > because morphboi will just use another open proxy. However, if it makes life > momentarily difficult for him, so much the better. Ellen's just said in the main group that she's passing it up the food chain, so perhaps it's in the works. From johnl at spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 14:52:51 2005 From: johnl at spamcop.net (JohnL) Date: Sun Jan 2 09:55:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Bob W." wrote in news:responseguard- 527CB9.00163002012005@news.cesmail.net: > So please... just take a deep breath and allow others to be human beings. Are you related to Miss Manners? ;-) From David1 at suescornerweb.com Sun Jan 2 11:17:51 2005 From: David1 at suescornerweb.com (David 1) Date: Sun Jan 2 11:20:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Aww..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bob W. wrote: > In article , > SylvesterthekatSylvesterthekatSylvesterthekatSylvesterthekat > wrote: > > >>Bob W. wrote: >> >> >> >>>Yeah, it's really sad. >>> >>>Then again, maybe not as sad as that diet pill company continuing to use >>>her for ads-- and even buying more airtime than ever with this >>>sweepstakes thing they're doing. Have you seen that ad? She's just as >>>stoned as ever in it. >>> >>>Freaky-diki! >>> >>Hell, I bet anyone can lose weight on a crack/cocaine fueled diet! >> >>Hey Bob, make the most of this post while you can see it, the troll will >>cancel it just as soon as he sees it! (hence my crazy name) > > > I'm replying! I'm replying!! > > Yeah, it's really a PITA. > > I wonder when our friendly neighborhood admin is going to take some > action... (whatever that would be...) > as long as it ain't closing the group besides a mom's group this is the only social I allow time for -- David 1 bad addy spamtrap@suescornerweb.com From bcs1 at spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 11:55:15 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bill) Date: Sun Jan 2 11:55:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:cr878g$afe$1@news.spamcop.net... > hmmmm, ok I plan to stay completely out of this, but I am curious?, how could someone cancel someone else's post?, I didn't think that was doable,( unless you were a forum admin, or something like that) hell I barely know how to cancel my own post, much less anyone else's postings. Just a question. Bill From bcs1 at spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 12:18:54 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bill) Date: Sun Jan 2 12:20:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns95D2502AC81A8johnlspamcopnet@216.154.195.61... HI John, how's it hanging bro? Bill From johnl at spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 17:22:15 2005 From: johnl at spamcop.net (JohnL) Date: Sun Jan 2 12:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Bill" wrote in news:cr9a8n$v45$1@news.spamcop.net: > > "JohnL" wrote in message > news:Xns95D2502AC81A8johnlspamcopnet@216.154.195.61... > > HI John, > how's it hanging bro? > > Bill > > > Well.... it's....... hanging? ;-) From medevul at some.where Sun Jan 2 18:07:30 2005 From: medevul at some.where (MedEvul) Date: Sun Jan 2 13:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: Heidi wrote: > You are ENTIRELY missing the point. There is a very simple > principle at stake her, Stake her? Snicker... you got that right. Someone needs to tie the Hog-Bitch to a stake and burn her. :-) From bambi at some.where Sun Jan 2 18:07:58 2005 From: bambi at some.where (bambi) Date: Sun Jan 2 13:10:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote: > It was accidental, but it wasn't a mistake. Cat resides deep in my > killfile for what should now be very obvious reasons, I only know what > what I saw in .cancel, which was troll-like behavior, changing user names > and canceling posts. Unless you're the Admin, you don't cancel posts that > you don't own, PERIOD, and that's what she got caught doing, she got caught > doing it because she was acting the very same way the troll was acting. > Entirely self-inflicted. My my, what a snarky little hate-filled bitch you are. And why so much self-loathing? Did your parents skimp on the toilet training when they were raising you? Did they both reject you? Tell Ms. Bambi all about it and maybe we can work through this together. -- bambi From Crawdad at some.where Sun Jan 2 19:59:18 2005 From: Crawdad at some.where (Yomamma bin Crawdaddin) Date: Sun Jan 2 15:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Heidi" (our very own pet hog-bitch) wrote: > It was accidental, but it wasn't a mistake. Cat resides deep in > my killfile for what should now be very obvious reasons, I only > know what what I saw in .cancel, which was troll-like behavior, > changing user names and canceling posts. Unless you're the Admin, > you don't cancel posts that you don't own, PERIOD, Aha! There's da problem. Fukkin hog-bitch has got PMS. That 'splains everything. :-) ---------------------------------------------------------- Yomamma bin Crawdaddin www.cotse.com Brotherhood (Vice Chairman) Anti Archangel #41 The difference between John Kerry and Ted Kennedy is that Ted Kennedy has at least one confirmed kill. <:((>>>>< From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Sun Jan 2 15:28:00 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Sun Jan 2 15:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Mary and Joseph, stay out of Elizabeth City, N.C. References: Message-ID: In article , "Miss Betsy" wrote: > I can't go back to the original post, but if I remember correctly, > the minister did say that this person had a problem with the rules > or something along those lines. Here's the URL for the article: Nowhere does it quote the minister or anybody else saying that. > However, whether or not that was a > a factor, in some situations, there cannot be exceptions to the > rules for a number of reasons. So you're saying that the only punishment for breaking the rules--no matter how minor the infraction--is and should be eviction? > However, whether or not that was a > a factor, in some situations, there cannot be exceptions to the > rules for a number of reasons. I have mentioned a couple - the > 'lesson' that one can't be just 'a little pregnant' or 'a little > bit of stealing' and that it is too difficult to administer the > rules fairly when sometimes the 'family members' are the ones who > are causing the problems. > > Truly 'temporary' shelters do not have to have such strict rules > because the circumstances are different. Then this one qualifies, since the woman was there awaiting placement in a housing program. > 'Profiling' is unfair, but we all do it. It is a handy way of > sizing up situations quickly because most of the time if people fit > the profile, they do generally act the way we expect. There is a > fine line between being prudent and being optimistic about a > person's behavior. I am all for 'expecting' people to be honest, > polite, and friendly and, for the most part, assuming that they > will be, makes the possibility that they are, greater. OTOH, > sometimes it is wise to be prudent. > To get back to the assumptions of this case - if the homeless > shelter was being strict, then, to be optimistic, it was being > strict for the good of all those in the shelter. If it was for > their good, then the reasons I have stated are probably the reasons > and therefore, the person was as I have assumed. "Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven." (Luke 6:37) And how is evicting the three kids and the one on the way for _their_ own good? > If I were wrong, and the minister was just being a control freak, > it is unlikely that that shelter would be the only one in town > because control freaks are not generally supported by the whole > town and those who see a need will have alternate facilities. A Google search turns up a reference to a Salvation Army shelter in the area, but it's for men only. > Unless you can point to a better solution for this mother and > children that actually exists I already did: Don't evict them. > and that you are willing to support (through contributions or taxes) Yet another assumption lacking any evidence to support it. > IMHO, you don't have any basis to make a criticism. I certainly do. It's called the bible. The minister claims to believe in it, and yet his actions prove that he does not. -- D.F. Manno dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream will never die." From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Sun Jan 2 15:42:14 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Sun Jan 2 15:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: In article , "Bill" wrote: > hmmmm, ok I plan to stay completely out of this, but I am curious?, how > could someone cancel someone else's post?, I didn't think that was > doable,( unless you were a forum admin, or something like that) hell I > barely know how to cancel my own post, much less anyone else's postings. That's my question as well. My newsreader won't let me cancel someone else's post, as I found out when I accidentially chose cancel from a menu. -- D.F. Manno dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream will never die." From nobody at spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 20:49:12 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (D€ja vu) Date: Sun Jan 2 15:50:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: > It was accidental, but it wasn't a mistake. Cat resides deep > in my killfile for what should now be very obvious reasons, I > only know what what "What what"??? Goddammit, slow down a little and don't hyperventilate, hog-bitch. We don't want you to die on us, you're too much fun to play with. Now dance some more for us and show us just how own€d you really are. :-) From nobody at spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 21:02:35 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (D€ja vu) Date: Sun Jan 2 16:05:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: Crawdad@some.where (Yomamma bin Crawdaddin) wrote: > Aha! There's da problem. Fukkin hog-bitch has got PMS. > > That 'splains everything. > > :-) Heh..., just be glad none of us have to have sex0r with the ugly hog-bitch. I wonder if the surrounding farm animals in her neighborhood are still virgins? :-) From me at privacy.net Sun Jan 2 13:20:58 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sun Jan 2 16:25:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Bill" wrote in message news:cr98sc$uaf$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:cr878g$afe$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > hmmmm, ok I plan to stay completely out of this, but I am curious?, how > could someone cancel someone else's post?, I didn't think that was > doable,( unless you were a forum admin, or something like that) hell I > barely know how to cancel my own post, much less anyone else's postings. > > Just a question. > Bill It's actually very easy and anyone can do it (hence our resident troll is doing it left and right). The system largely operates on honour, something he's got in short supply. From me at privacy.net Sun Jan 2 13:24:07 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sun Jan 2 16:25:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "D.F. Manno" wrote in message news:dfm2a3l0t2-F23ED6.15421402012005@news.cesmail.net... > That's my question as well. My newsreader won't let me cancel someone > else's post, as I found out when I accidentially chose cancel from a > menu. Things merely have to match what is expected (ie name, address). Try it out on one of your own posts. Use another newsreader and emulate what you see when you look at your own posts, then hit cancel. It really is that simple (has to be for a simpleton to do it). From medevul at some.where Sun Jan 2 21:24:53 2005 From: medevul at some.where (MedEvul) Date: Sun Jan 2 16:25:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: D€ja vu wrote: > Heh..., just be glad none of us have to have sex0r with the > ugly hog-bitch. Yeah, I think that's a job for her boyfriend Sylvester. Or is that SylvesterthekatSylvesterthekatSylvesterthekatSylvesterthekat? LOL! with a stutter like that, no wonder he never gets laid either. :-) From bcs1 at spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 17:33:07 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bill) Date: Sun Jan 2 17:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] php Help for the bald guy.... was re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns95D2697F4A846johnlspamcopnet@216.154.195.61... > "Bill" wrote in news:cr9a8n$v45$1@news.spamcop.net: > >> >> "JohnL" wrote in message >> news:Xns95D2502AC81A8johnlspamcopnet@216.154.195.61... >> >> HI John, >> how's it hanging bro? >> >> Bill >> >> >> > > Well.... it's....... hanging? ;-) cool, you may know this one already John, but just in case ....LOL.... any php gurus here? I have a very perplexing problem with germanf.php, and need to find the english.php version of it for nexellent sitebuilder. TIA Bill From bcs1 at spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 17:36:31 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bill) Date: Sun Jan 2 17:35:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "MedEvul" wrote in message news:cr9d8h$14f$1@news.spamcop.net... > Heidi wrote: > >> You are ENTIRELY missing the point. There is a very simple >> principle at stake her, > > Stake her? > > Snicker... you got that right. Someone needs to tie the Hog-Bitch > to a stake and burn her. > > :-) > well at the risk of getting canceled, or being the target of ur playfulness, ( or whatever you're calling it) I gotta say this. "D00d, that shit ain't even right" hell even she, and I don't agree on things sometimes, but you'd never see me talking to, or speaking about her like that...regardless of the reason for the disagreement. JMO Bill From bcs1 at spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 17:39:00 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bill) Date: Sun Jan 2 17:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "D.F. Manno" wrote in message news:dfm2a3l0t2-F23ED6.15421402012005@news.cesmail.net... > In article , "Bill" > wrote: > >> hmmmm, ok I plan to stay completely out of this, but I am curious?, how >> could someone cancel someone else's post?, I didn't think that was >> doable,( unless you were a forum admin, or something like that) hell I >> barely know how to cancel my own post, much less anyone else's postings. > > That's my question as well. My newsreader won't let me cancel someone > else's post, as I found out when I accidentially chose cancel from a > menu. > -- yeah tried to cancel one on my own news server ( for my techs), and had to login as admin to do it /me shrugs BTW Dom, how'd the blood clot thing work out for you? good I hope, and happy holidays too (belated) Bill From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Sun Jan 2 18:14:56 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Sun Jan 2 18:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: In article , "Bill" wrote: > BTW Dom, how'd the blood clot thing work out for you? good I hope, and happy > holidays too (belated) As it turned out it wasn't a clot, but cellulitis. Two weeks of taking an antibiotic cleared it up. Thanks for the holiday greetings, and I belatedly wish you and yours the same. -- D.F. Manno dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream will never die." From nospam at bisusa.com Sun Jan 2 17:19:16 2005 From: nospam at bisusa.com (JerryMouse) Date: Sun Jan 2 18:20:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] This may save your life! References: Message-ID: MedEvul wrote: > Heidi wrote: > >> You are ENTIRELY missing the point. There is a very simple >> principle at stake her, > > Stake her? > > Snicker... you got that right. Someone needs to tie the Hog-Bitch > to a stake and burn her. This "stake" business is pure Hollywood. If you read Bram Stoker's book, you'll find the only way to kill a vampire is with a BOWIE KNIFE through the heart, not some pissant tent-peg! I live in Texas where there are a LOT of Bowie Knives; we do NOT have a vampire problem. (Admittedly, one or two wander in from time to time - there's always somebody who didn't get the word - but they don't last long.) From nospam at bisusa.com Sun Jan 2 17:24:03 2005 From: nospam at bisusa.com (JerryMouse) Date: Sun Jan 2 18:25:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Aww..... References: Message-ID: Bob W. wrote: > In article , > "Zoe" wrote: > >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/4138381.stm >> >> A court has overturned the decision to award $88m (£44.7m) to former >> Playboy model Anna Nicole Smith from the estate of her husband who >> was 90 when he died. > > Ooh, yeah... My heart bleeds for her. > Me too. She gave him the best year of his life. From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Sun Jan 2 18:25:44 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Sun Jan 2 18:30:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Season's Greetings References: <1103843603.392281@ursine.dyndns.org> Message-ID: In article , "Frog Prince" wrote: > "JerryMouse" wrote in message > > | Let us pray: > | > | "O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our > | shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their > | patriot dead; > > Jerry, for the record, just what part of 'us' were you involved with when > you had the opportunity? Note that the Rodent doesn't quote the whole thing, because then it would be obvious that Twain is using satire and that the Rodent is an ass. Here is the full text: The War Prayer By Mark Twain It was a time of great and exalting excitement. The country was up in arms, the war was on, in every breast burned the holy fire of patriotism; the drums were beating, the bands playing, the toy pistols popping, the bunched firecrackers hissing and spluttering; on every hand and far down the receding and fading spread of roofs and balconies a fluttering wilderness of flags flashed in the sun; daily the young volunteers marched down the wide avenue gay and fine in their new uniforms, the proud fathers and mothers and sisters and sweethearts cheering them with voices choked with happy emotion as they swung by; nightly the packed mass meetings listened, panting, to patriot oratory which stirred the deepest deeps of their hearts, and which they interrupted at briefest intervals with cyclones of applause, the tears running down their cheeks the while; in the churches the pastors preached devotion to flag and country, and invoked the God of Battles beseeching His aid in our good cause in outpourings of fervid eloquence which moved every listener. It was indeed a glad and gracious time, and the half dozen rash spirits that ventured to disapprove of the war and cast a doubt upon its righteousness straightway got such a stern and angry warning that for their personal safety's sake they quickly shrank out of sight and offended no more in that way. Sunday morning came -- next day the battalions would leave for the front; the church was filled; the volunteers were there, their young faces alight with martial dreams -- visions of the stern advance, the gathering momentum, the rushing charge, the flashing sabers, the flight of the foe, the tumult, the enveloping smoke, the fierce pursuit, the surrender! Then home from the war, bronzed heroes, welcomed, adored, submerged in golden seas of glory! With the volunteers sat their dear ones, proud, happy, and envied by the neighbors and friends who had no sons and brothers to send forth to the field of honor, there to win for the flag, or, failing, die the noblest of noble deaths. The service proceeded; a war chapter from the Old Testament was read; the first prayer was said; it was followed by an organ burst that shook the building, and with one impulse the house rose, with glowing eyes and beating hearts, and poured out that tremendous invocation God the all-terrible! Thou who ordainest! Thunder thy clarion and lightning thy sword! Then came the "long" prayer. None could remember the like of it for passionate pleading and moving and beautiful language. The burden of its supplication was, that an ever-merciful and benignant Father of us all would watch over our noble young soldiers, and aid, comfort, and encourage them in their patriotic work; bless them, shield them in the day of battle and the hour of peril, bear them in His mighty hand, make them strong and confident, invincible in the bloody onset; help them to crush the foe, grant to them and to their flag and country imperishable honor and glory -- An aged stranger entered and moved with slow and noiseless step up the main aisle, his eyes fixed upon the minister, his long body clothed in a robe that reached to his feet, his head bare, his white hair descending in a frothy cataract to his shoulders, his seamy face unnaturally pale, pale even to ghastliness. With all eyes following him and wondering, he made his silent way; without pausing, he ascended to the preacher's side and stood there waiting. With shut lids the preacher, unconscious of his presence, continued with his moving prayer, and at last finished it with the words, uttered in fervent appeal, "Bless our arms, grant us the victory, O Lord our God, Father and Protector of our land and flag!" The stranger touched his arm, motioned him to step aside -- which the startled minister did -- and took his place. During some moments he surveyed the spellbound audience with solemn eyes, in which burned an uncanny light; then in a deep voice he said: "I come from the Throne -- bearing a message from Almighty God!" The words smote the house with a shock; if the stranger perceived it he gave no attention. "He has heard the prayer of His servant your shepherd, and will grant it if such shall be your desire after I, His messenger, shall have explained to you its import -- that is to say, its full import. For it is like unto many of the prayers of men, in that it asks for more than he who utters it is aware of -- except he pause and think. "God's servant and yours has prayed his prayer. Has he paused and taken thought? Is it one prayer? No, it is two -- one uttered, the other not. Both have reached the ear of Him Who heareth all supplications, the spoken and the unspoken. Ponder this -- keep it in mind. If you would beseech a blessing upon yourself, beware! lest without intent you invoke a curse upon a neighbor at the same time. If you pray for the blessing of rain upon your crop which needs it, by that act you are possibly praying for a curse upon some neighbor's crop which may not need rain and can be injured by it. "You have heard your servant's prayer -- the uttered part of it. I am commissioned of God to put into words the other part of it -- that part which the pastor -- and also you in your hearts -- fervently prayed silently. And ignorantly and unthinkingly? God grant that it was so! You heard these words: 'Grant us the victory, O Lord our God!' That is sufficient. the whole of the uttered prayer is compact into those pregnant words. Elaborations were not necessary. When you have prayed for victory you have prayed for many unmentioned results which follow victory -- must follow it, cannot help but follow it. Upon the listening spirit of God fell also the unspoken part of the prayer. He commandeth me to put it into words. Listen! "O Lord our Father, our young patriots, idols of our hearts, go forth to battle -- be Thou near them! With them -- in spirit -- we also go forth from the sweet peace of our beloved firesides to smite the foe. O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it -- for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen. [After a pause] "Ye have prayed it; if ye still desire it, speak! -- The messenger of the Most High waits!" It was believed afterward that the man was a lunatic, because there was no sense in what he said. -- D.F. Manno dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream will never die." From nobody at spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 18:34:17 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Sun Jan 2 18:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Mary and Joseph, stay out of Elizabeth City, N.C. References: Message-ID: "She is a young woman who does not want to listen to anybody." quote from the minister. And, IMHO, those who do not want to listen are the ones who have problems holding jobs, and otherwise doing those things which make one a contributing citizen, rather than simply wanting others to do for them. > "Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be > condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven." (Luke 6:37) Both 'judging' and 'forgiving' do not necessarily mean that one allows continued abuse. > > And how is evicting the three kids and the one on the way for _their_ > own good? In this day and age, there is no way to help those kids without helping their mother to be a better mother. > > > If I were wrong, and the minister was just being a control freak, > > it is unlikely that that shelter would be the only one in town > > because control freaks are not generally supported by the whole > > town and those who see a need will have alternate facilities. > > A Google search turns up a reference to a Salvation Army shelter in the > area, but it's for men only. So I am probably not wrong. > > > Unless you can point to a better solution for this mother and > > children that actually exists > > I already did: Don't evict them. > > > and that you are willing to support (through contributions or taxes) > > Yet another assumption lacking any evidence to support it. What I am saying is that you can point to a program that does not evict anyone for the breaking of petty rules that you support (either because you have voted for it and it is paid for through taxes or because you voluntarily support it). For instance, if you feel so strongly about the eviction, you could certainly send the poor woman rent until she could move into this housing (or if you can't afford that, raise the money). > > IMHO, you don't have any basis to make a criticism. > > I certainly do. It's called the bible. The minister claims to believe in > it, and yet his actions prove that he does not. Where in the bible does it say not to evict a rule breaker? If you have ever stopped a two year old from running into the street or taken away a sharp object from a toddler, then you will understand what 'tough love' is. A toddler will be extremely angry and may even hit at you, but does it stop you from curtailing his activities? Judging, in the sense of saying that this person has done this act wilfully and with complete knowledge of the consequences, is not to be done by Christians. No one is saying that the woman in question is evil or has chosen to do evil. 'Turn the other cheek' is not saying it is ok to hit me (or break the rules I have made in good faith). In fact, it says just the opposite. If there are others who are affected by the rules, then perhaps it is not wise to allow some to break them. Obviously, by turning her out at Christmas (the only time when the 'world' thinks giving help is important apparently), the minister is not 'helping' himself. He is opening himself up to criticism from those who don't understand 'tough love.' He said that he is not comfortable with it. I am not comfortable with refusing to let a two year old play with knives - it is heartbreaking and nervewracking to hear them cry because they don't understand why. I can forgive them for hitting at me and I can forgive the woman for saying the 'devil made him do it' because she doesn't understand. Perhaps it was the devil who whispered in her ear, "the rules don't apply to you." There is an interesting debate about how much do you give to those who don't deserve it (and will take advantage of your gift) and how many strings do you attach to a gift. IMHO, one has to make those decisions for oneself and no one can judge whether you have done it from 'love' or from self-interest. It is more obvious when you are giving to a wino. Do you give him the money to buy another bottle (which is what he wants)? Or do you only give him what he needs (like buying him a sandwich)? Or do you refuse to give him anything unless he enters a rehab program? And the questions get more complicated when it is your brother or father or son. My point is that unless you can show that a shelter without rules is better for the inhabitants, then you cannot say that it is unChristian to evict someone who breaks the rules, that unless you can provide a better alternative (or try to), you cannot criticize those who are trying to provide safe shelter to those who don't have it. Because you are not Christian, you are free to make judgments about people and criticize their actions as not being loving. You can judge that the minister is not following your version of biblical values. It does not necessarily mean that the minister is not striving to be a loving person according to his version of biblical values. OTOH, there is a certain amount of data and common sense that points to his actions as contributing to a better life for those who do listen - and that his shelter model could be duplicated by anyone whether Christian or not and have 'success' stories. That is judging based on factual evidence. Miss Betsy From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Sun Jan 2 18:35:56 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Sun Jan 2 18:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Map game References: Message-ID: In article , "Sylvesterthekat" wrote: > "Tim McGraw" wrote in message > > > Of all the 50-state geography quizzes I've seen posted here, I don't > > believe I've seen this one. Neat! > > > http://www.sheppardsoftware.com/states_experiment_drag-drop_Intermed_State15s_ > 500.html > > Cool. I surprised myself and got 90%, average error of 19 miles. 84% and avg. error 37 miles. My big mistakes were Colorado and North Dakota--placed them both further west than they actually are. -- D.F. Manno dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream will never die." From nospam at bisusa.com Sun Jan 2 17:41:44 2005 From: nospam at bisusa.com (JerryMouse) Date: Sun Jan 2 18:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Talking of weather........ Earthquakes, anyway..... References: Message-ID: Rob wrote: > "JerryMouse" wrote in message > news:cr7ej6$pf9$1@news.spamcop.net... >> >> Independent observers will note that democratic, capitalistic >> societies suffer much less from this sort of disaster than other >> types of governmental organizations. In the instant case, compare >> Sri Lanka (gone) to India (did something happen?), less than 50 >> miles apart. Recent reports show India sending relief aid TO Sri >> Lanka! >> >> > > This couldn't by any chance be because Sri Lanka is an island most of > which is only a few feet above water and most people living on the > land only a few feet above water whereas India is on the continent, a > fair bit bigger than Sri Lanka and the majority of people live well > away from the sea? No, of course not, it must be the type of > government that causes so many people to die when a tsunami > obliterates the land and destroys the infra-structure where most live. No, island or continent has little to do with it. There's still abundant stuff within 300 yards of the shore in both places. Umbrella stands and hot-dog vendors got washed away in India. In Sri Lanka, even government buildings are built of bamboo! It IS the type of government that is directly responsible for the death and destruction. The governments don't cause the tsunamis or hurricanes or earthquakes or reality tv, but through the absence of disaster-conscious building codes, emergency-response capability, and other criminal (in)activity, most of the resultant suffering can be laid at the government's feet. I heard an NPR radio report about the first Australian relief flight. The Australian major in charge of the C-130 and its zillion pounds of stuff was met on the tarmac by an Indonesian major general. The Aussie explained how he's scheduled at least eight or nine such flights per day and will provide his own off-loading equipment and personell. The Indonesian general said that's nice but the commission placing him in charge of logistics would not be effective until the day after tommorrow and that until such time he had no authority to accept the Australian help (the general could evidently accept the "stuff," but not the "help"). I don't know whether the C-130 had to haul the goods BACK to Australia to await the paperwork! From nobody at spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 18:46:11 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Sun Jan 2 18:45:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "D.F. Manno" wrote in message news:dfm2a3l0t2-F23ED6.15421402012005@news.cesmail.net... > In article , "Bill" > wrote: > > > hmmmm, ok I plan to stay completely out of this, but I am curious?, how > > could someone cancel someone else's post?, I didn't think that was > > doable,( unless you were a forum admin, or something like that) hell I > > barely know how to cancel my own post, much less anyone else's postings. > > That's my question as well. My newsreader won't let me cancel someone > else's post, as I found out when I accidentially chose cancel from a > menu. Someone explained how to do it when there was a problem the last time, but I didn't pay attention because IMHO, posts should never be cancelled except by someone who posted something in error. IMHO, to cancel posts is carrying self moderation too far. IMHO, however, the owner of the newsgroup could ban someone who was being a nuisance. I noticed that a similar post about Heidi was made in the spamcop ng. IMHO, that is sufficient to be banned by JT as being out of order since spamcop posts are supposed to be about spam and troubleshooting spamcop reporting. Miss Betsy From johnl at spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 23:47:34 2005 From: johnl at spamcop.net (JohnL) Date: Sun Jan 2 18:50:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Miss Betsy" wrote in news:cra0ul$cu2$1 @news.spamcop.net: > IMHO, that is sufficient to be banned by > JT as being out of order since spamcop posts are supposed to be > about spam and troubleshooting spamcop reporting JT's statements in the past are basically that he doesn't care what goes on in here, so I doubt he'll do anything. Which is a shame, but that's how he wants to be I guess. His loss eventually. From nobody at spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 18:58:57 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Sun Jan 2 19:00:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns95D2AAD43CEFjohnlspamcopnet@216.154.195.61... > "Miss Betsy" wrote in news:cra0ul$cu2$1 > @news.spamcop.net: > > > IMHO, that is sufficient to be banned by > > JT as being out of order since spamcop posts are supposed to be > > about spam and troubleshooting spamcop reporting > > JT's statements in the past are basically that he doesn't care what goes on > in here, so I doubt he'll do anything. > Which is a shame, but that's how he wants to be I guess. > His loss eventually. I thought that he wasn't particularly interested in what went on in .social and that's ok by me since it is just 'social.' OTOH, to have the silliness crop up in the main spamcop group is something that he should do something about, IMHO, or that Julian should ask him to since people still do use the newsgroups for reporting help and as a user group. Miss Betsy From johnl at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 00:06:58 2005 From: johnl at spamcop.net (JohnL) Date: Sun Jan 2 19:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Miss Betsy" wrote in news:cra1mk$dc0$1 @news.spamcop.net: > I thought that he wasn't particularly interested in what went on in > .social and that's ok by me since it is just 'social.' OTOH, to > have the silliness crop up in the main spamcop group is something > that he should do something about, IMHO, or that Julian should ask > him to since people still do use the newsgroups for reporting help > and as a user group. Well, his comments have always been that the "forum" is the only support as far as he's concerned. To me, he either should be responsible and handle problems or turn things over to someone else. I was a paying member for a few years, but no longer, mostly just for that reason. From TMHRVMFWREVN at spammotel.com Mon Jan 3 00:18:13 2005 From: TMHRVMFWREVN at spammotel.com (Rob) Date: Sun Jan 2 19:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Talking of weather........ Earthquakes, anyway..... References: Message-ID: "JerryMouse" wrote in message news:cra0ri$cp0$1@news.spamcop.net... > Rob wrote: > > "JerryMouse" wrote in message > > news:cr7ej6$pf9$1@news.spamcop.net... > >> > >> Independent observers will note that democratic, capitalistic > >> societies suffer much less from this sort of disaster than other > >> types of governmental organizations. In the instant case, compare > >> Sri Lanka (gone) to India (did something happen?), less than 50 > >> miles apart. Recent reports show India sending relief aid TO Sri > >> Lanka! > >> > >> > > > > This couldn't by any chance be because Sri Lanka is an island most of > > which is only a few feet above water and most people living on the > > land only a few feet above water whereas India is on the continent, a > > fair bit bigger than Sri Lanka and the majority of people live well > > away from the sea? No, of course not, it must be the type of > > government that causes so many people to die when a tsunami > > obliterates the land and destroys the infra-structure where most live. > > No, island or continent has little to do with it. There's still abundant > stuff within 300 yards of the shore in both places. Umbrella stands and > hot-dog vendors got washed away in India. In Sri Lanka, even government > buildings are built of bamboo! > Do you know anything about geography? How in the world can you equate an Island like Sri Lanka where most of the people live next to the sea with India where most of the people live well inland? It was not directly the earthquake that was the fault of all the deaths, it was the Tsunami. Have you seen the pictures of Sri Lanka? It was not just bamboo structures that got washed away, but, also concrete structures. Are you trying to say that if Sri Lanka had modeled its government upon the perfect, incorruptible US style then countless thousands wouldn't have been washed away and killed from the beach resorts and fields they were working. Do you not understand that if the same amount of people were killed around the coast of India it would actually be a small percentage of the total population and most of the infra-structure would remain for relief purposes whereas in Sri Lanka a large percentage of the population has been killed and most important infra-structure is destroyed? > It IS the type of government that is directly responsible for the death and > destruction. The governments don't cause the tsunamis or hurricanes or > earthquakes or reality tv, but through the absence of disaster-conscious > building codes, emergency-response capability, and other criminal > (in)activity, most of the resultant suffering can be laid at the > government's feet. > I am truly amazed that you can turn one of the worlds most terrible disasters into politics. > I heard an NPR radio report about the first Australian relief flight. The > Australian major in charge of the C-130 and its zillion pounds of stuff was > met on the tarmac by an Indonesian major general. The Aussie explained how > he's scheduled at least eight or nine such flights per day and will provide > his own off-loading equipment and personell. > > The Indonesian general said that's nice but the commission placing him in > charge of logistics would not be effective until the day after tommorrow and > that until such time he had no authority to accept the Australian help (the > general could evidently accept the "stuff," but not the "help"). > That sounds reasonable. He could accept the stuff they brought, but, not the help of the few that came with it. What would they do anyway? There needs to be co-ordination of help not just a group of foreign officials unofficially turning up and saying they are going to help. This is what all the effected countries are saying, don't just turn up and decide what help to give, listen to what we are saying and provide the help we ask for. Who knows better what is required, the country that is afflicted or a bunch of politicians half way around the world? > I don't know whether the C-130 had to haul the goods BACK to Australia to > await the paperwork! > > Now that would be silly especially since they said they could accept the stuff. From MikeE at ster.invalid Sun Jan 2 16:28:32 2005 From: MikeE at ster.invalid (Mike Easter) Date: Sun Jan 2 19:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: Miss Betsy wrote: > IMHO, however, the owner of the newsgroup could ban someone who was > being a nuisance. News isn't secure. Talking about banning someone is silly. You could shut the news down. Other than that, you can't ban anyone. -- Mike Easter kibitzer, not SC admin From devnull at privacy1834818401939109hi.co.uk Sun Jan 2 16:52:40 2005 From: devnull at privacy1834818401939109hi.co.uk (SylvesterthekatSylvesterthekatSylvesterthekatSylvesterthekat) Date: Sun Jan 2 19:55:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Map game In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: D.F. Manno wrote: >>Cool. I surprised myself and got 90%, average error of 19 miles. > > > 84% and avg. error 37 miles. My big mistakes were Colorado and North > Dakota--placed them both further west than they actually are. Crikey mate... and you're a natural born American! ;o) From devnull at spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 19:55:04 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sun Jan 2 20:00:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns95D2AE1DDA89Ajohnlspamcopnet@216.154.195.61... > Well, his comments have always been that the "forum" is the only support as > far as he's concerned. > To me, he either should be responsible and handle problems or turn things > over to someone else. > I was a paying member for a few years, but no longer, mostly just for that > reason. Well, if it was just a .social problem, it would be one thing - since the troll has canceled from the main group and .help as well, he's going to have to address it. From devnull at privacy1834818401939109hi.co.uk Sun Jan 2 16:57:07 2005 From: devnull at privacy1834818401939109hi.co.uk (SylvesterthekatSylvesterthekatSylvesterthekatSylvesterthekat) Date: Sun Jan 2 20:00:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mike Easter wrote: > News isn't secure. Talking about banning someone is silly. > > You could shut the news down. Other than that, you can't ban anyone. > > I think your idea of disabling the cancel option is the best, if that's doable. Maybe it'll make people think before posting for starters! From johnl at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 00:59:12 2005 From: johnl at spamcop.net (JohnL) Date: Sun Jan 2 20:00:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in news:cra56u$fjr$1@news.spamcop.net: > Well, if it was just a .social problem, it would be one thing - since > the troll has canceled from the main group and .help as well, he's > going to have to address it. Want to bet he ignores it? From me at privacy.net Sun Jan 2 17:00:44 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sun Jan 2 20:05:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns95D2B6F9365A4johnlspamcopnet@216.154.195.61... > "Heidi" wrote in > news:cra56u$fjr$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > Well, if it was just a .social problem, it would be one thing - since > > the troll has canceled from the main group and .help as well, he's > > going to have to address it. > > Want to bet he ignores it? Anyone know how to set up and control a newsgroup? Maybe one of us could host one and be more proactive about controlling the trolls. From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Mon Jan 3 00:50:53 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Sun Jan 2 20:15:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: php Help for the bald guy.... was re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Bill" wrote in message news:cr9slr$a7i$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > cool, > you may know this one already John, but just in case ....LOL.... any php > gurus here? I have a very perplexing problem with germanf.php, and need to > find the english.php version of it for nexellent sitebuilder. > TIA > Bill > > Bill, you might find the answer here: http://www.rsdev.nl/index.php?option=com_simpleboard&Itemid=77&func=view&id=370&catid=7 Post no 162 looks like it might be what you're looking for!?! From johnl at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 01:14:20 2005 From: johnl at spamcop.net (JohnL) Date: Sun Jan 2 20:15:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Bob W." wrote in news:responseguard- EA8904.17121202012005@news.cesmail.net: > Yeah... We're both human beings. I think I'll leave that one alone. LOL! From me at privacy.net Sun Jan 2 20:07:35 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sun Jan 2 20:30:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: This may save your life! References: Message-ID: "JerryMouse" < | I live in Texas where there are a LOT of Bowie Knives; we do NOT have a | vampire problem. (Admittedly, one or two wander in from time to time - | there's always somebody who didn't get the word - but they don't last long.) Who need a vampire when you have the likes of Ken Lay, ENRON, et all? From me at privacy.net Sun Jan 2 20:08:23 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sun Jan 2 20:30:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Aww..... References: Message-ID: "JerryMouse" | > | >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/4138381.stm | >> | >> A court has overturned the decision to award $88m (£44.7m) to former | >> Playboy model Anna Nicole Smith from the estate of her husband who | >> was 90 when he died. | > | > Ooh, yeah... My heart bleeds for her. | > | | Me too. She gave him the best year of his life. Which ain't saying much. From me at privacy.net Sun Jan 2 20:26:16 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sun Jan 2 20:30:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Mary and Joseph, stay out of Elizabeth City, N.C. References: Message-ID: "D.F. Manno" | I certainly do. It's called the bible. The minister claims to believe in | it, and yet his actions prove that he does not. From: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6750771/ "The approximately 2,000-square-foot building has 10 beds in two apartments and a loft." Perhaps the rule has to do with the privacy and protection of the other women in the facility. I know, from personal experience, that women who have been subject to abuse very often have serious problems when a man is in an area where women has reason to expect there should be no males present. This is a projection but from the training our family has received from DSS in the foster parent program we are give clear warnings which area of the county and specific stores we should avoid so that the kids we are charged to care for have the minimum chance of a chance encounter with the birth parents/previous abusers. We will be given a special number to call in the event there are any surprise encounters. From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Sun Jan 2 20:39:49 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Sun Jan 2 20:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] We're Christian-we don't have to obey signs. Message-ID: >From AP via the Boston Globe: > 36 children injured in N.D. sled accident > > January 1, 2005 > > MINOT, N.D. --Thirty-six children were injured in a sledding accident during > an all-night New Year's Eve party hosted by a religious organization. > > Three of the children were hospitalized, but all were in stable condition > Saturday, hospital officials said. The others were treated and released. > > Police Sgt. Winston Black said more than 100 children ages 12 to 19 attending > a Youth for Christ event gathered at a high school around 4 a.m. to slide > down a hill using sleds built out of cardboard boxes. > > A sign posted on the hill prohibited sledding. > > The children and Youth for Christ staff piled eight to 12 passengers on the > sleds, then went down the hill in quick succession, Black said. "The sleds > struck rocks, a light pole and each other," he said. ... -- D.F. Manno dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream will never die." From me at privacy.net Sun Jan 2 20:56:35 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sun Jan 2 21:05:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] PING JohnL Message-ID: This is an old article. There was an update over the holidays while I can't find the link right now but the updated report indicated that the procedure was a much greater success than previously anticipated. http://www.nbc5i.com/health/1461053/detail.html Artificial Disc May End Back Pain New Surgery Undergoing Clinical Trial UPDATED: 9:28 a.m. EDT May 15, 2002 If you don't suffer from back pain, chances are you eventually will. Experts say that 85 percent of us will have back pain before we're 50 years old. But a breakthrough new back surgery using an artificial disc may end back pain forever, reported NBC 10 News in Philadelphia. Valerie Stephens has lived with constant back pain for six years. "Difficult, very difficult to go through anything. Going grocery shopping, simple tasks, carrying anything, even just getting dressed is difficult," Stephens said. Stephens hurt her back doing something we all do. "I was washing windows on a ladder and I just twisted the wrong way. Through just neglecting the pain, through living and going about my own business, it just got worse," Stephens said. "I'm anxious to feel better and go on with living." Results | Disclaimer Nothing had worked for Stephens, so she became the first person in the Philadelphia area to have an artificial disc implanted in her spine. It is a breakthrough procedure performed by Dr. Richard Balderston at Pennsylvania Hospital. "The purpose of the normal disc is to provide a connection between the bones of the spine and number two to provide a shock absorber," Balderston said. In Stephens' case, her disc had worn away, leaving the bone touching bone. That was why she was in so much pain, according to Balderston. Balderston implanted the artificial disc made of titanium cobalt chrome to separate the two bones. "That allows you to bend forward and bend backwards," Balderson said. "The substances used in the disc are the same as have been used in total hip and total knee replacement for the last 40 years." Balderston said that Stephens should be back to full activity within six to 11 weeks and she can't wait. "I want to run a 5-K and get back to living, to be normal again," Stephens said. Just three weeks after Stephens' surgery, she said she feels no pain. The procedure is so new it is only being performed on people who agree to be part of a clinical trial for Food and Drug Administration approval. There are some restrictions -- you must have only one diseased disc and must be in otherwise good health. To find out if you're eligible for this surgery, call (800) 789-PENN during regular business hours. More, with perhaps some relivance to your S.O. case. http://www.nbc5i.com/health/2619372/detail.html Back Surgery Advances Create More Options New Techniques Relieve Pain UPDATED: 11:17 a.m. EST November 10, 2003 CORINTH, Texas -- The simplest tasks -- like tying shoes, pulling weeds or folding clothes -- are painful for people with back problems, but new technologies are helping to relieve pain. http://www.nbc5i.com/health/1628896/detail.html New Twist On Back Surgery Speeds Recovery Pain-Reducing Procedure Increases Patient Mobility From devnull at spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 21:02:21 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sun Jan 2 21:05:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We're Christian-we don't have to obey signs. References: Message-ID: "D.F. Manno" wrote in message news:dfm2a3l0t2-933F4F.20394902012005@news.cesmail.net... > > > > The children and Youth for Christ staff piled eight to 12 passengers on the > > sleds, then went down the hill in quick succession, Black said. "The sleds > > struck rocks, a light pole and each other," he said. ... > Ouch....anyone who's ever hit a rock in a toboggan going downhill knows how much that had to hurt....perhaps God was on his coffee break. From bcs1 at spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 21:06:26 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bill) Date: Sun Jan 2 21:05:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "D.F. Manno" wrote in message news:dfm2a3l0t2-EB83D3.18145502012005@news.cesmail.net... > In article , "Bill" > wrote: > >> BTW Dom, how'd the blood clot thing work out for you? good I hope, and >> happy >> holidays too (belated) > > As it turned out it wasn't a clot, but cellulitis. Two weeks of taking > an antibiotic cleared it up. > > Thanks for the holiday greetings, and I belatedly wish you and yours the > same. Thanks Dom, and even though I haven't been around, THAT'S GREAT news. Glad to hear it. Bill From me at privacy.net Sun Jan 2 21:03:40 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sun Jan 2 21:05:16 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] PING JohnL Message-ID: http://www.nbc5i.com/osearch/detail.html?Keywords=%22disk+replacement+surgery%22&Partner=ibs_kwsearch&Type=dfw&on=5&fn=10 This link in particular: http://www.spinesource.com/Back-Pain-Disorders/disc-degeneration.html#ADR Following is an old article. There was an update over the holidays while I can't find the link right now but the updated report indicated that the procedure was a much greater success than previously anticipated. http://www.nbc5i.com/health/1461053/detail.html Artificial Disc May End Back Pain New Surgery Undergoing Clinical Trial UPDATED: 9:28 a.m. EDT May 15, 2002 If you don't suffer from back pain, chances are you eventually will. Experts say that 85 percent of us will have back pain before we're 50 years old. But a breakthrough new back surgery using an artificial disc may end back pain forever, reported NBC 10 News in Philadelphia. Valerie Stephens has lived with constant back pain for six years. "Difficult, very difficult to go through anything. Going grocery shopping, simple tasks, carrying anything, even just getting dressed is difficult," Stephens said. Stephens hurt her back doing something we all do. "I was washing windows on a ladder and I just twisted the wrong way. Through just neglecting the pain, through living and going about my own business, it just got worse," Stephens said. "I'm anxious to feel better and go on with living." Results | Disclaimer Nothing had worked for Stephens, so she became the first person in the Philadelphia area to have an artificial disc implanted in her spine. It is a breakthrough procedure performed by Dr. Richard Balderston at Pennsylvania Hospital. "The purpose of the normal disc is to provide a connection between the bones of the spine and number two to provide a shock absorber," Balderston said. In Stephens' case, her disc had worn away, leaving the bone touching bone. That was why she was in so much pain, according to Balderston. Balderston implanted the artificial disc made of titanium cobalt chrome to separate the two bones. "That allows you to bend forward and bend backwards," Balderson said. "The substances used in the disc are the same as have been used in total hip and total knee replacement for the last 40 years." Balderston said that Stephens should be back to full activity within six to 11 weeks and she can't wait. "I want to run a 5-K and get back to living, to be normal again," Stephens said. Just three weeks after Stephens' surgery, she said she feels no pain. The procedure is so new it is only being performed on people who agree to be part of a clinical trial for Food and Drug Administration approval. There are some restrictions -- you must have only one diseased disc and must be in otherwise good health. To find out if you're eligible for this surgery, call (800) 789-PENN during regular business hours. More, with perhaps some relivance to your S.O. case. http://www.nbc5i.com/health/2619372/detail.html Back Surgery Advances Create More Options New Techniques Relieve Pain UPDATED: 11:17 a.m. EST November 10, 2003 CORINTH, Texas -- The simplest tasks -- like tying shoes, pulling weeds or folding clothes -- are painful for people with back problems, but new technologies are helping to relieve pain. http://www.nbc5i.com/health/1628896/detail.html New Twist On Back Surgery Speeds Recovery Pain-Reducing Procedure Increases Patient Mobility From devnull at spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 21:03:47 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sun Jan 2 21:05:19 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Bob W." wrote in message news:responseguard-CAA477.17112002012005@news.cesmail.net... > Damn good thing. > > Any admin thay just ignores this kind of activity on their own server > doesn't deserve to be an admin, OMNSHO. LOL Bob, do I detect a history? From bcs1 at spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 21:10:27 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bill) Date: Sun Jan 2 21:10:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns95D2AAD43CEFjohnlspamcopnet@216.154.195.61... > "Miss Betsy" wrote in news:cra0ul$cu2$1 > @news.spamcop.net: > >> IMHO, that is sufficient to be banned by >> JT as being out of order since spamcop posts are supposed to be >> about spam and troubleshooting spamcop reporting > > JT's statements in the past are basically that he doesn't care what goes > on > in here, so I doubt he'll do anything. > Which is a shame, but that's how he wants to be I guess. > His loss eventually. well I guess when I get my blog site up, I'll "secretly" email the address to a few of you, and let you pass it on to those you know .... LOL then we can have a couple of ya set as admin's and be done with the troll stuff within mere moments of one's first post LOL. Then we can go back to fighting about politics, and who wrote the dumbest news story this week, or something constructive like that again. Bill From devnull at spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 21:07:11 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sun Jan 2 21:10:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Bob W." wrote in message news:responseguard-6724D8.17150802012005@news.cesmail.net... > > I'm hoping she'll eventually come to understand that browbeating isn't > the most efficient means of communication. Communication isn't the goal, making herself the center of attention IS. Mission accomplished, and not in a good way, LOL... From devnull at spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 21:09:35 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sun Jan 2 21:15:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Bob W." wrote in message news:responseguard-C7B70A.17095602012005@news.cesmail.net... > Hey! I won the diagnosis pool! > > How much was in the pot?? Hey, no fair, Dom left out that little bit about what caused the cellullitis, which caused my misdiagnosis of a blood clot. Oh dear, he might sue me now.... From bcs1 at spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 21:14:40 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bill) Date: Sun Jan 2 21:15:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:cra56u$fjr$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "JohnL" wrote in message > news:Xns95D2AE1DDA89Ajohnlspamcopnet@216.154.195.61... >> Well, his comments have always been that the "forum" is the only support > as >> far as he's concerned. >> To me, he either should be responsible and handle problems or turn things >> over to someone else. >> I was a paying member for a few years, but no longer, mostly just for >> that >> reason. > > Well, if it was just a .social problem, it would be one thing - since the > troll has canceled from the main group and .help as well, he's going to > have > to address it. > > in as much as I'm not here all the time, and mostly not "up to speed" on the inner workings, I think John is right... didn't JT say once that from then on ( whenever that was), that the "web forum" was where he was going to devote his attention, or something to that effect? additionally, wasn't the comment made shortly after that , that the NG's were only being left up because of the "die-hard" ng people?... or am I mistaken? TIA Bill BTW Hiya Hun happy holidays to u 2. From devnull at spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 21:10:42 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sun Jan 2 21:15:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns95D2B6F9365A4johnlspamcopnet@216.154.195.61... > "Heidi" wrote in > news:cra56u$fjr$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > Well, if it was just a .social problem, it would be one thing - since > > the troll has canceled from the main group and .help as well, he's > > going to have to address it. > > Want to bet he ignores it? Since it's affecting the function and purpose of the main group, and .help as well, I don't see how he can. From bcs1 at spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 21:18:19 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bill) Date: Sun Jan 2 21:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:cra5fr$fpa$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "JohnL" wrote in message > news:Xns95D2B6F9365A4johnlspamcopnet@216.154.195.61... >> "Heidi" wrote in >> news:cra56u$fjr$1@news.spamcop.net: >> >> > Well, if it was just a .social problem, it would be one thing - since >> > the troll has canceled from the main group and .help as well, he's >> > going to have to address it. >> >> Want to bet he ignores it? > > Anyone know how to set up and control a newsgroup? Maybe one of us could > host one and be more proactive about controlling the trolls. > > eheh LOL /me shuts up Bill From me at privacy.net Sun Jan 2 21:05:42 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sun Jan 2 21:20:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We're Christian-we don't have to obey signs. References: Message-ID: "Heidi" | > > The children and Youth for Christ staff piled eight to 12 passengers on | the | > > sleds, then went down the hill in quick succession, Black said. "The | sleds | > > struck rocks, a light pole and each other," he said. ... | > | Ouch....anyone who's ever hit a rock in a toboggan going downhill knows how | much that had to hurt....perhaps God was on his coffee break. Or the devil a bit busier than normal? From devnull at spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 21:15:04 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sun Jan 2 21:20:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Bill" wrote in message news:cra9l8$im7$1@news.spamcop.net... > in as much as I'm not here all the time, and mostly not "up to speed" on > the inner workings, I think John is right... didn't JT say once that from > then on ( whenever that was), that the "web forum" was where he was going to > devote his attention, or something to that effect? > > additionally, wasn't the comment made shortly after that , that the NG's > were only being left up because of the "die-hard" ng people?... or am I > mistaken? I thought the end decision was to move the .help group to the web forum because that's where people really need help with using Spamcop, I thought they agreed to leave the NNTP groups up as virtually everyone who uses the groups was opposed to shutting them down. > > TIA > Bill > BTW Hiya Hun > happy holidays to u 2. > Happy Holidays back at ya - I don't know about you but I've been running nonstop for a month, I need a week off just to recover! From johnl at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 02:54:18 2005 From: johnl at spamcop.net (JohnL) Date: Sun Jan 2 21:55:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: PING JohnL References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in news:cra90j$i4p$1@news.spamcop.net: > This is an old article. There was an update over the holidays while I > can't find the link right now but the updated report indicated that > the procedure was a much greater success than previously anticipated. Indi's talked about this recently. I think he's getting it done soon? We asked her surgeon about it a few weeks ago when we talked to him, but he didn't sound very promising about it. We go to see him in another 6 months to talk about what's next. :( From johnl at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 02:56:43 2005 From: johnl at spamcop.net (JohnL) Date: Sun Jan 2 22:00:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Bill" wrote in news:cra9dc$ii7$1@news.spamcop.net: > Then we can go back to fighting about politics, and who wrote the > dumbest news story this week, or something constructive like that > again. Politics???? We don't need no steeenking politics!!!!!~ Now dumb stories, we get a lot of those from Texas lately. From johnl at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 02:59:55 2005 From: johnl at spamcop.net (JohnL) Date: Sun Jan 2 22:00:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in news:cra9nc$iqu$1@news.spamcop.net: > Since it's affecting the function and purpose of the main group, and > .help as well, I don't see how he can. I'm not so optimistic as you are. He's been "forum only" for quite some time now. From johnl at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 03:00:24 2005 From: johnl at spamcop.net (JohnL) Date: Sun Jan 2 22:05:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Bill" wrote in news:cra9s3$ivv$1@news.spamcop.net: > eheh LOL > /me shuts up :) From bcs1 at spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 22:03:17 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bill) Date: Sun Jan 2 22:05:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:cra9t3$j19$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Bill" wrote in message > news:cra9l8$im7$1@news.spamcop.net... >> > in as much as I'm not here all the time, and mostly not "up to speed" on >> the inner workings, I think John is right... didn't JT say once that >> from >> then on ( whenever that was), that the "web forum" was where he was going > to >> devote his attention, or something to that effect? >> >> additionally, wasn't the comment made shortly after that , that the NG's >> were only being left up because of the "die-hard" ng people?... or am I >> mistaken? > > I thought the end decision was to move the .help group to the web forum > because that's where people really need help with using Spamcop, I thought > they agreed to leave the NNTP groups up as virtually everyone who uses the > groups was opposed to shutting them down. >> >> TIA >> Bill >> BTW Hiya Hun >> happy holidays to u 2. >> > Happy Holidays back at ya - I don't know about you but I've been running > nonstop for a month, I need a week off just to recover! > > you're prolly right, it's been a while Thanks, and I know the feeling, I've been sick for two weeks, and still have 2 sites to install tomorrow Bill From nospam at bisusa.com Sun Jan 2 21:03:42 2005 From: nospam at bisusa.com (JerryMouse) Date: Sun Jan 2 22:05:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] At least Republicans won't starve... Message-ID: http://www.choosetheblue.com/mainFrame.php?backlevel=002..001Choose%20The%20Blue.002Restaurants%20and%20Bars&prodcat=Restaurants Restaurant chains donating the bulk of their political action money to Republicans: McDonalds Boston Market Donatos Olive Garden Red Lobster Chili's On The Border Charlie Brown's Marie Callender's Little Caesars, KFC, A&W, Long John Silver's Pizza Hut Taco Bell Cracker Barrel Waffle House and others, especially H(o)(o)ter's Notice the elitist nature of the foregoing! On the other hand, populist Democrats have their food supporter (only one), too: Stephanie's on Newbury, a Boston eatery. Appetizers include: Clam Chowder Warm Vermont Goat Cheese Baked Spinach and Artichoke Dip Seared Jumbo Scallops lobster quesadilla pan sautéed crab cakes ahi tuna tartare fried calamari And the restaurant is only 1.25 miles from Kerry's Beacon Hill house! From bcs1 at spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 22:48:24 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bill) Date: Sun Jan 2 22:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Mike Easter" wrote in message news:cra3hd$ef0$1@news.spamcop.net... > Miss Betsy wrote: >> IMHO, however, the owner of the newsgroup could ban someone who was >> being a nuisance. > > News isn't secure. Talking about banning someone is silly. > > You could shut the news down. Other than that, you can't ban anyone. > > > -- > Mike Easter > kibitzer, not SC admin true, however on my windows 2000 adv server ya can't post unless ur in active directory , and my Ikonboard is setup moderated, so ya can't post unless your registered, and accepted and... well u get the picture oh hell, and my mailing list, you can't post to unless you are on the list too LOL, be glad to make a list up, or give y'all the ikon board addy, or hell even add ya to active directory ( who cares that M$Exchange will holler bout the number of users LOL Bill BTW Hi Mike LTNS From bcs1 at spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 22:51:57 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bill) Date: Sun Jan 2 22:50:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns95D2CAE5E6E60johnlspamcopnet@216.154.195.61... > "Bill" wrote in news:cra9dc$ii7$1@news.spamcop.net: > >> Then we can go back to fighting about politics, and who wrote the >> dumbest news story this week, or something constructive like that >> again. > > Politics???? We don't need no steeenking politics!!!!!~ > > Now dumb stories, we get a lot of those from Texas lately. 2-shay ya, I know...but I ain't gonna look it up... Bill From bcs1 at spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 22:52:25 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bill) Date: Sun Jan 2 22:50:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns95D2CB85D8161johnlspamcopnet@216.154.195.61... > "Bill" wrote in news:cra9s3$ivv$1@news.spamcop.net: > >> eheh LOL >> /me shuts up > > :) OWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!! From bcs1 at spamcop.net Sun Jan 2 23:05:45 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bill) Date: Sun Jan 2 23:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: php Help for the bald guy.... was re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Porpoise" wrote in message news:cra660$gg4$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Bill" wrote in message > news:cr9slr$a7i$1@news.spamcop.net... >> >> >> cool, >> you may know this one already John, but just in case ....LOL.... any >> php gurus here? I have a very perplexing problem with germanf.php, and >> need to find the english.php version of it for nexellent sitebuilder. >> TIA >> Bill >> >> > > Bill, you might find the answer here: > > http://www.rsdev.nl/index.php?option=com_simpleboard&Itemid=77&func=view&id=370&catid=7 > > Post no 162 looks like it might be what you're looking for!?! > yeah I tend to wonder though, cause the nexellent sitebuilder installed as default, and the only available language the germanf.php file, while looking through the file I saw no reference to view.php. I noticed that the context of that thread was the mambo picture gallery, but I'm save that link, and if I have time try to play with it tomorrow, if I can see where the file is called from. my path is home/httpd/mysite.net/httpdocs/sitebuilder/language/gremanf.php I did send an email request to plesk support about that, and the cold fusion add-on that didn't install, but shows on my invoice. Thanks for the fast reply at least it's a place to start. Bill From me at privacy.net Sun Jan 2 22:41:35 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sun Jan 2 23:10:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: PING JohnL References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns95D2CA7D63256johnlspamcopnet@216.154.195.61... | "Frog Prince" wrote in | news:cra90j$i4p$1@news.spamcop.net: | | > This is an old article. There was an update over the holidays while I | > can't find the link right now but the updated report indicated that | > the procedure was a much greater success than previously anticipated. | | Indi's talked about this recently. | I think he's getting it done soon? | | We asked her surgeon about it a few weeks ago when we talked to him, but he | didn't sound very promising about it. | We go to see him in another 6 months to talk about what's next. :( I'm normally reluctant to make medical reference to procedures as I get this all the time from folk who know of someone who knows of someone that had/has something remotely like what might be wrong with me ..... however I was very impressed with the discussion and the lack of BS on the part of both the reporter and the people interviewed and that the procedure was in line with what you had been talking about. From me at privacy.net Sun Jan 2 22:42:49 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sun Jan 2 23:10:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: At least Republicans won't starve... References: Message-ID: "JerryMouse" wrote in message news:cracm8$l2g$1@news.spamcop.net... | http://www.choosetheblue.com/mainFrame.php?backlevel=002..001Choose%20The%20Blue.002Restaurants%20and%20Bars&prodcat=Restaurants | | Restaurant chains donating the bulk of their political action money to | Republicans: | | McDonalds | Boston Market | Donatos | Olive Garden | Red Lobster | Chili's | On The Border | Charlie Brown's | Marie Callender's | Little Caesars, | KFC, | A&W, | Long John Silver's | Pizza Hut | Taco Bell | Cracker Barrel | Waffle House | and others, especially | H(o)(o)ter's | | Notice the elitist nature of the foregoing! | | On the other hand, populist Democrats have their food supporter (only one), | too: | | Stephanie's on Newbury, a Boston eatery. | | Appetizers include: | Clam Chowder | Warm Vermont Goat Cheese | Baked Spinach and Artichoke Dip | Seared Jumbo Scallops | lobster quesadilla | pan sautéed crab cakes | ahi tuna tartare | fried calamari | | And the restaurant is only 1.25 miles from Kerry's Beacon Hill house! Where does Ben n Jerry's fit into this list? From johnl at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 04:37:35 2005 From: johnl at spamcop.net (JohnL) Date: Sun Jan 2 23:40:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: PING JohnL References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in news:crageb$n80$1@news.spamcop.net: > I'm normally reluctant to make medical reference to procedures as I > get this all the time from folk who know of someone who knows of > someone that had/has something remotely like what might be wrong with > me ..... however I was very impressed with the discussion and the lack > of BS on the part of both the reporter and the people interviewed and > that the procedure was in line with what you had been talking about. Appreciate the heads up on it, really. But we're hoping that she can strengthen her back enough over the next 6 months so that she can endure the pain without any more surgery. She also has heart trouble, and everytime she goes under, it's risky. And the surgeon says that if he goes in again, he needs to take out the old "hardware" before putting in the new. The past two surgeries were over 8 hours each, this one would probably be quite longer, and no one wants that. From David1 at suescornerweb.com Sun Jan 2 23:54:57 2005 From: David1 at suescornerweb.com (David 1) Date: Sun Jan 2 23:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bill wrote: > "MedEvul" wrote in message > news:cr9d8h$14f$1@news.spamcop.net... > >>Heidi wrote: >> >> snip > > well at the risk of getting canceled, or being the target of ur playfulness, > ( or whatever you're calling it) I gotta say this. > > "D00d, that shit ain't even right" > > hell even she, and I don't agree on things sometimes, but you'd never see me > talking to, or speaking about her like that...regardless of the reason for > the disagreement. > > > JMO > Bill > > Agreed -- David 1 bad addy spamtrap@suescornerweb.com From David1 at suescornerweb.com Mon Jan 3 04:18:18 2005 From: David1 at suescornerweb.com (David 1) Date: Mon Jan 3 04:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mr K. Mean wrote: > David 1 wrote: > >> Bill wrote: >> >>> "MedEvul" wrote in message >>> news:cr9d8h$14f$1@news.spamcop.net... >> >> >>> well at the risk of getting canceled, or being the target of ur >>> playfulness, ( or whatever you're calling it) I gotta say this. >>> >>> "D00d, that shit ain't even right" >>> >>> hell even she, and I don't agree on things sometimes, but you'd never >>> see me talking to, or speaking about her like that...regardless of >>> the reason for the disagreement. >>> >>> JMO >>> Bill >> >> >> Agreed > > > Bill and David 1, it would be nice if you would stop responding to the > troll, please. Hell, I don't even know who is who any more & what's more I dont' care ok I lied I do care but with my limited knowledge there ain't a whole lot I can do about it. for all I know it could be A (not the) troll that just posted this or the message I'm replying to now so with that in mind if I see something that I think I should reply to then Im going to & if that breaks another written or unwritten rule then ask/tell me to leave the group & trust me I will with the exception of the help NG just incase I run into trouble but other then that that is all you'll hear from me. -- David 1 bad addy spamtrap@suescornerweb.com From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Mon Jan 3 10:58:39 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Mon Jan 3 06:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: php Help for the bald guy.... was re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Bill" wrote in message news:crag5i$n47$1@news.spamcop.net... > > yeah I tend to wonder though, cause the nexellent sitebuilder installed as > default, and the only available language the germanf.php file, while > looking through the file I saw no reference to view.php. I noticed that > the context of that thread was the mambo picture gallery, but I'm save > that link, and if I have time try to play with it tomorrow, if I can see > where the file is called from. > my path is home/httpd/mysite.net/httpdocs/sitebuilder/language/gremanf.php > I did send an email request to plesk support about that, and the cold > fusion add-on that didn't install, but shows on my invoice. > > Thanks for the fast reply > at least it's a place to start. > > Bill > :>) I know what it can be like looking for something to do a specific job in .php....... Sometimes the manual just doesn't seem to help. From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 07:21:32 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Mon Jan 3 07:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We're Christian-we don't have to obey signs. References: Message-ID: "D.F. Manno" wrote in message news:dfm2a3l0t2-933F4F.20394902012005@news.cesmail.net... Obviously they are not a bible based Christian Community. From Matthew 4 (The Temptation) "Scripture has it. 'He will bid his angels take care of you; with their hands they will support you...' Jesus answered him, "Scriture also has it: 'You shall not put the Lord your God to the test'" Miss Betsy From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 07:25:12 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Mon Jan 3 07:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We're Christian-we don't have to obey signs. References: Message-ID: > "Heidi" > > | Ouch....anyone who's ever hit a rock in a toboggan going downhill knows > how > | much that had to hurt....perhaps God was on his coffee break. > > > Or the devil a bit busier than normal? Haven't you ever heard the joke about the man in a flood who refused all offers of help from two boats and a helicopter saying that his God would rescue him. When he drowns and goes to heaven, he asks God why he didn't save him. God replies, "I sent you two boats and a helicopter! What else did you want?" Well, there was a 'sign' that they should not sled on that hill! Miss Betsy > From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 07:35:33 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Mon Jan 3 07:35:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Heidi" <> > > > Well, if it was just a .social problem, it would be one thing - since > > > the troll has canceled from the main group and .help as well, he's > > > going to have to address it. "JohnL" > > Want to bet he ignores it? "Heidi" > Since it's affecting the function and purpose of the main group, and .help > as well, I don't see how he can. Ellen got into the middle of one thread and said that she is passing it 'up the food chain' JT may prefer the web based forum for his email service help and support, but Julian has not indicated that he wants the ng's to go away so I think that he would ask JT to get involved (or make other arrangements). Miss Betsy From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 07:39:44 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Mon Jan 3 07:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Mike Easter" wrote in message news:cra3hd$ef0$1@news.spamcop.net... > Miss Betsy wrote: > > IMHO, however, the owner of the newsgroup could ban someone who was > > being a nuisance. > > News isn't secure. Talking about banning someone is silly. > > You could shut the news down. Other than that, you can't ban anyone. > Well, I probably am not using the correct language, but when there was another troll who was giving people bad advice and resubmitting their reports (that one Charles chased through several ng's), JT did something - but only when the troll attacked him (by error, IIRC). Miss Betsy From TMHRVMFWREVN at spammotel.com Mon Jan 3 12:50:39 2005 From: TMHRVMFWREVN at spammotel.com (Rob) Date: Mon Jan 3 07:55:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Talking of weather........ Earthquakes, anyway..... References: Message-ID: "Bob W." wrote in message news:responseguard-DBBC63.17171302012005@news.cesmail.net... > In article , > "Rob" wrote: > > > > I'm thinking it's time for the feeding of this particular troll to come > to an end. > > Please? > > Thanks. > > -- > ...Bob W. I had come to the same conclusion. I don't think I've ever come across in a newsgroup someone that has such an effect on me that I wake up in the morning thinking about what they have said and feeling angry with them. I don't like that feeling and although I very rarely use it I think this is a kill file job. Rob From me at privacy.net Mon Jan 3 07:48:58 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon Jan 3 08:00:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Tsunami satellite pix References: Message-ID: http://www.digitalglobe.com/tsunami_gallery.html From medevul at some.where Mon Jan 3 15:53:23 2005 From: medevul at some.where (MedEvul) Date: Mon Jan 3 10:55:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: D€ja vu wrote: > Heh..., just be glad none of us have to have sex0r with the > ugly hog-bitch. Yeah, I think that's a job for her boyfriend Sylvester. Or is that SylvesterthekatSylvesterthekatSylvesterthekatSylvesterthekat? LOL! with a stutter like that, no wonder he never gets laid either. :-) From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 10:53:40 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Mon Jan 3 10:55:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns95D2CB70B4219johnlspamcopnet@216.154.195.61... > "Heidi" wrote in > news:cra9nc$iqu$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > Since it's affecting the function and purpose of the main group, and > > .help as well, I don't see how he can. > > I'm not so optimistic as you are. > He's been "forum only" for quite some time now. I'm happy to say we'll be seeing some progress very soon, if not already. From medevul at some.where Mon Jan 3 15:55:00 2005 From: medevul at some.where (MedEvul) Date: Mon Jan 3 10:55:18 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: Heidi wrote: > You are ENTIRELY missing the point. There is a very simple > principle at stake her, Stake her? Snicker... you got that right. Someone needs to tie the Hog-Bitch to a stake and burn her. :-) From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 11:30:00 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jan 3 11:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] AAARRRRGGGHHHHH! Message-ID: My blood pressure is at an all time high thanks to our fucknut IT group! They tried to install a new antivirus program on my machine over the weekend, and one of my spyware proggies wouldn't let them, so the idjit tech ripped them all off of my machine! Of course they didn't uninstall corrrectly since he wasn't logged in as me, so I get to work this morning and NOTHING on my machine is working -- no email, no internet connection, no nothing., and no antivirus protection of any kind (he removed the old version and couldn't install the new one). So I remove the spampal config from my Outlook account so I can get email, clean up the registry, reboot, get mail (two spams made it past Postini), get on the phone with the moron that corrupted my PC, talk to him about all the problems, I reboot again (after accidentally viewing one of the spams that made it into my inbox cuz Spampal was gone). Guess what I see when my machine comes back up? A FUCKING SPYWARE INFECTION! Must.....resist....urge....to.....kill.......FUCK!FUCK!FUCK!FUCK!FUCK!FUCK!F UCK!FUCK!FUCK! From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 11:31:54 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Mon Jan 3 11:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: AAARRRRGGGHHHHH! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:crbru8$hjc$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Must.....resist....urge....to.....kill.......FUCK!FUCK!FUCK!FUCK!FUCK!FUCK!F > UCK!FUCK!FUCK! > So. Happy New Year to you! Wait till you see what fun you've missed here...ROFL From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 11:33:17 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Mon Jan 3 11:35:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Talking of weather........ Earthquakes, anyway..... References: Message-ID: "Rob" wrote in message news:crbf7k$9lt$2@news.spamcop.net... > > I had come to the same conclusion. I don't think I've ever come across in a > newsgroup someone that has such an effect on me that I wake up in the > morning thinking about what they have said and feeling angry with them. I > don't like that feeling and although I very rarely use it I think this is a > kill file job. Your reaction is backasswards, see, I suppose that comes with experience - you're supposed to laugh at the pathetic twat while adding him to your killfile.. From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 12:16:48 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Mon Jan 3 12:20:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Study Relates Fast-Food with Type 2 diabetes References: Message-ID: "Tim McGraw" wrote in message news:cr441k$ro2$2@news.spamcop.net... > A study published in Lancet medical journal this week has confirmed what > most of the doctors had suspected since ages. The study says that eating > fast-food more than often predisposes you to Type 2 diabetes and heart > troubles. It also makes you obese. This is the first time that a > scientific study has statistically proven that fast-food is not more > than junk for ones body. The Cleveland Clinic's new administrator http://www.elitestv.com/pub/2005/Jan/EEN41d954e2e1933.html is taking a lot of heat for trying to get the fast food restaurants shut down in the hospitals. I laughed when I read this article that says Brigham and Women's doesn't have a fast food restaurant on site - oh yes they do, because I've just been there. Au Bon Pain in the lobby is my favorite stop for coffee on the way out to get my car. From me at privacy.net Mon Jan 3 09:20:27 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Jan 3 12:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: AAARRRRGGGHHHHH! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:crbru8$hjc$1@news.spamcop.net... > My blood pressure is at an all time high thanks to our fucknut IT group! > They tried to install a new antivirus program on my machine over the > weekend, and one of my spyware proggies wouldn't let them, so the idjit tech > ripped them all off of my machine! Of course they didn't uninstall > corrrectly since he wasn't logged in as me, so I get to work this morning > and NOTHING on my machine is working -- no email, no internet connection, no > nothing., and no antivirus protection of any kind (he removed the old > version and couldn't install the new one). > > So I remove the spampal config from my Outlook account so I can get email, > clean up the registry, reboot, get mail (two spams made it past Postini), > get on the phone with the moron that corrupted my PC, talk to him about all > the problems, I reboot again (after accidentally viewing one of the spams > that made it into my inbox cuz Spampal was gone). Guess what I see when my > machine comes back up? A FUCKING SPYWARE INFECTION! > > Must.....resist....urge....to.....kill.......FUCK!FUCK!FUCK!FUCK!FUCK!FUCK!F > UCK!FUCK!FUCK! why do they employ incompetent people?! that is just effing ridiculous. Get that jerk up there to sort it out and in the meantime give you another goddam computer! From me at privacy.net Mon Jan 3 09:39:17 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Jan 3 12:40:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Bill" wrote in message news:cra9dc$ii7$1@news.spamcop.net... > Then we can go back to fighting about politics, and who wrote the dumbest > news story this week, or something constructive like that again. LOL, damn straight! Have to get our priorities right, after all. From me at privacy.net Mon Jan 3 09:41:03 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Jan 3 12:45:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: At least Republicans won't starve... References: Message-ID: "JerryMouse" wrote in message news:cracm8$l2g$1@news.spamcop.net... > http://www.choosetheblue.com/mainFrame.php?backlevel=002..001Choose%20The%20Blue.002Restaurants%20and%20Bars&prodcat=Restaurants > > Restaurant chains donating the bulk of their political action money to > Republicans: > > McDonalds > Boston Market > Donatos > Olive Garden > Red Lobster > Chili's > On The Border > Charlie Brown's > Marie Callender's > Little Caesars, > KFC, > A&W, > Long John Silver's > Pizza Hut > Taco Bell > Cracker Barrel > Waffle House > and others, especially > H(o)(o)ter's No... they'll all die of heart attack, stroke, diabetes and other obesity-related diseases instead. From me at privacy.net Mon Jan 3 09:43:56 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Jan 3 12:45:17 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "David 1" wrote in message news:crb2jc$29g$1@news.spamcop.net... > Hell, I don't even know who is who any more & what's more I dont' care > ok I lied I do care but with my limited knowledge there ain't a whole > lot I can do about it. for all I know it could be A (not the) troll that > just posted this or the message I'm replying to now so with that in mind > if I see something that I think I should reply to then Im going to & if > that breaks another written or unwritten rule then ask/tell me to leave > the group & trust me I will with the exception of the help NG just > incase I run into trouble but other then that that is all you'll hear > from me. Mostly it's pretty obvious who the troll is because the stuff he says is utterly obnoxious. If what he says is not obnoxious then you can be forgiven for making the error of replying. But at least check out some of his 'current name' other posts before replying, to see if it may be him and then make your decision about whether you want to converse with such a dickwad. From me at privacy.net Mon Jan 3 09:46:40 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Jan 3 12:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tsunami satellite pix References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:crbfi2$a42$2@news.spamcop.net... > > http://www.digitalglobe.com/tsunami_gallery.html Wow, those are some sobering images there. Thanks for sharing. From me at privacy.net Mon Jan 3 09:49:21 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Jan 3 12:50:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Talking of weather........ Earthquakes, anyway..... References: Message-ID: "Rob" wrote in message news:crbf7k$9lt$2@news.spamcop.net... > I had come to the same conclusion. I don't think I've ever come across in a > newsgroup someone that has such an effect on me that I wake up in the > morning thinking about what they have said and feeling angry with them. I > don't like that feeling and although I very rarely use it I think this is a > kill file job. He's almost impossible to killfile because he changes identity with the wind. But I don't see any posts today... maybe JT also managed to ban him. However, I've not really read any of his posts for a while so whatever he's been saying hasn't bothered me. From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 12:50:29 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jan 3 12:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: AAARRRRGGGHHHHH! References: Message-ID: Heidi wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:crbru8$hjc$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > > Must.....resist....urge....to.....kill.......FUCK!FUCK!FUCK!FUCK!FUCK!FUCK!F > > UCK!FUCK!FUCK! > > > So. Happy New Year to you! Wait till you see what fun you've missed > here...ROFL Yeah, noticed alot of posts (for once, lately at least). But I'd say about 100 posts automagically disappeared when I loaded the newsgroup ;-) This is just what I needed in the final week before surgery, fscking rebuilding my desktop :-(( Can you believe this moron actually threatened to take away my PC because of all of my "unauthorized" software? He must have been the ONLY one in the IT group to not know how well protected my machine USED TO BE. Hell, even NASA released an email to everyone urging them to load all the free antispyware stuff I had onto their computers! From me at privacy.net Mon Jan 3 09:52:15 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Jan 3 12:55:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Talking of weather........ Earthquakes, anyway..... References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:crbs6p$hmp$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Rob" wrote in message > news:crbf7k$9lt$2@news.spamcop.net... > > > > I had come to the same conclusion. I don't think I've ever come across in > a > > newsgroup someone that has such an effect on me that I wake up in the > > morning thinking about what they have said and feeling angry with them. I > > don't like that feeling and although I very rarely use it I think this is > a > > kill file job. > > Your reaction is backasswards, see, I suppose that comes with experience - > you're supposed to laugh at the pathetic twat while adding him to your > killfile.. If he's posting today, it must be with identities I've already killfiled. The overriding feeling I have toward him, after contempt, is pity, then scorn. From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 12:54:52 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jan 3 12:55:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: AAARRRRGGGHHHHH! References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > why do they employ incompetent people?! that is just effing > ridiculous. Get that jerk up there to sort it out and in the meantime > give you another goddam computer! I was on the phone with him for about an hour, he *threatened* to delete my hard drive and start from scratch before I explained what a moron he was........they're all losing their jobs (outsourcing the IT group next month), so he doesn't give a rat's ass. I talked to his boss, however, and he is going to get his ass chewed big time. My machine is now functioning but has absolutely NO protection of any kind until he can get the friggin new AV software installed. With the outsourcing thing they want everyone's PC to look identical as far as what software is installed, so I have to "request" that they add that software I used to have onto the "approved" list or their autobot will kill them off the next time they scan my machine. From baloo at ursine.dyndns.org Mon Jan 3 10:01:10 2005 From: baloo at ursine.dyndns.org (Paul Johnson) Date: Mon Jan 3 13:05:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: AAARRRRGGGHHHHH! References: Message-ID: <1104775270.938207@ursine.dyndns.org> Sylvesterthekat wrote: > why do they employ incompetent people?! that is just effing ridiculous. > Get that jerk up there to sort it out and in the meantime give you another > goddam computer! But the hardware is fine, it's the software that's broken. And I'll burn you a Debian Linux CD if you send me a check or money order for the cost of a blank CD and shipping. Email me if you're interested. -- Paul Johnson baloo@ursine.dyndns.org http://ursine.dyndns.org/~baloo/ From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 13:01:30 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jan 3 13:05:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: AAARRRRGGGHHHHH! References: Message-ID: Mr K. Mean wrote: > indigo wrote: > > Yeah, noticed alot of posts (for once, lately at least). But I'd > > say about 100 posts automagically disappeared when I loaded the > > newsgroup ;-) > > Probably the cancel fest then. > Legal ones or more illegal cancels? From johnl at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 18:06:08 2005 From: johnl at spamcop.net (JohnL) Date: Mon Jan 3 13:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: AAARRRRGGGHHHHH! References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" <47p772ok02@sneakemail.com> wrote in news:crc1cg$la6$1 @news.spamcop.net: >> Legal ones or more illegal cancels? > > Yes. LOL, beat me to that one. ;-) From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 13:04:20 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Mon Jan 3 13:10:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: AAARRRRGGGHHHHH! References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" <47p772ok02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:crc1cg$la6$1@news.spamcop.net... > indigo wrote: > > Legal ones or more illegal cancels? > > Yes. ROFL..... From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 13:10:06 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Mon Jan 3 13:15:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: AAARRRRGGGHHHHH! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:crc0l5$ko8$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Yeah, noticed alot of posts (for once, lately at least). But I'd say about > 100 posts automagically disappeared when I loaded the newsgroup ;-) LOL...Keep reading..... > This is just what I needed in the final week before surgery, fscking > rebuilding my desktop :-(( > Can you believe this moron actually threatened to take away my PC because of > all of my "unauthorized" software? He must have been the ONLY one in the IT > group to not know how well protected my machine USED TO BE. > > Hell, even NASA released an email to everyone urging them to load all the > free antispyware stuff I had onto their computers! A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing - he's going to take away your PC???? WTF is he, on drugs? I always cringe when I have to use net meeting for the IT people to help me out, I'm expecting them to say "what is all that crap on your machine", but they have so far been very supportive that I have Adaware and Spybot installed and actually use them. From jwjr at poSPAMSUCKSbox.com Mon Jan 3 13:15:24 2005 From: jwjr at poSPAMSUCKSbox.com (J. Weaver Jr.) Date: Mon Jan 3 13:20:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: AAARRRRGGGHHHHH! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Indy, have you considered setting a startup password, and then turning your machine off when you leave? -JW From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 14:21:35 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jan 3 14:25:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: AAARRRRGGGHHHHH! References: Message-ID: JohnL wrote: > "Mr K. Mean" <47p772ok02@sneakemail.com> wrote in news:crc1cg$la6$1 > @news.spamcop.net: > > >> Legal ones or more illegal cancels? > > > > Yes. > > LOL, beat me to that one. ;-) All y'all are just a bunch of hyenas scrounging at the plate of my computing misery....... From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 14:29:37 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jan 3 14:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: AAARRRRGGGHHHHH! References: Message-ID: Heidi wrote: > A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing - he's going to take > away your PC???? WTF is he, on drugs? He said he was so frustrated he almost wiped my hard drive......he'd a been road kill........ I always cringe when I have to > use net meeting for the IT people to help me out, I'm expecting them > to say "what is all that crap on your machine", but they have so far > been very supportive that I have Adaware and Spybot installed and > actually use them. I formally requested that they be added to the "allowed" list, along with a few others.....the new VirusScan Console looks like it will actually prevent me from reinstalling them unless they get on the list first. Bastages. Idiots. From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 14:31:47 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jan 3 14:35:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: AAARRRRGGGHHHHH! References: Message-ID: J. Weaver Jr. wrote: > Indy, have you considered setting a startup password, and then turning > your machine off when you leave? -JW Yeah, that would go over real well with our anal retentive IT group, me shutting the world off from my PC. Oops, it's "their" PC, not "mine". And no, they wouldn't allow it, they do autoupdate stuff overnight and on weekends. From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 14:32:49 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jan 3 14:35:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tum ti tum References: Message-ID: David 1 wrote: > > > > Start> Control Panel> Administrative Tools> Services> > > > > Double-click the Indexing Service and choose your settings from the > > options that appear. In this case, change the "startup type" to > > manual or disabled. > > > > > > I guess with 98 I dont' have to worry about that Hmmm...I just got off of 98 at home, I think it has it? From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 14:41:22 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jan 3 14:45:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Season's Greetings References: <1103843603.392281@ursine.dyndns.org> Message-ID: Which JM did *not* do. He is not a veteran. Chris F. Willoughby wrote: > Heh, the assumption was 'served in the military in some capacity' > > Chris > > "Tim McGraw" wrote in message > news:cqnb0j$fnj$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Chris F. Willoughby wrote: > > >> Well, I think anyone who served during that time in that country > >> should be considered a vet. > > > > Even if they served in Congress? From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 14:42:39 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jan 3 14:45:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Mary and Joseph, stay out of Elizabeth City, N.C. References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > Stranger things have happened in NC. Not too far from me a group of > Christen (?) land lords refused to rent to single (new) mothers on the > assertion that they were sinners. When confronted by the Local Right > to Life Group (who was fronting the deposits) that these young women > had elected to avoid abortion. The response: "they made the choice > (to conceive and presumably carry the kid to term) they must live > with the result (but not in my property).' > That's just as illegal as refusing to rent to certain ethnic groups, isn't it? From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 14:46:38 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jan 3 14:50:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Mary and Joseph, stay out of Elizabeth City, N.C. References: Message-ID: D.F. Manno wrote: > > > However, whether or not that was a > > a factor, in some situations, there cannot be exceptions to the > > rules for a number of reasons. > > So you're saying that the only punishment for breaking the rules--no > matter how minor the infraction--is and should be eviction? > I see no difference between this and those idiot schools that suspend 5 year old kids for bringing a plastic knife to school to cut their sandwich. Hard and fast rules with no leeway given. Not that I agree with them, but that's the way some things work these days, for better or worse. From johnl at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 19:46:53 2005 From: johnl at spamcop.net (JohnL) Date: Mon Jan 3 14:50:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Season's Greetings References: <1103843603.392281@ursine.dyndns.org> Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:crc752$pkl$1@news.spamcop.net: > Which JM did *not* do. He is not a veteran. Yes he is.... a veteran A-hole From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 14:51:47 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jan 3 14:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Talking of weather........ Earthquakes, anyway..... References: Message-ID: Bob W. wrote: > > "Richard Gross, a geophysicist with Nasa's Jet Propulsion Laboratory > in California, believes a shift of mass toward the Earth's centre > during the quake caused the planet to spin three microseconds faster > and tilt about an inch on its axis." > > It may be time for the scientists to look at whether to add a leap > second... I wonder what affect that tilt change will have on our weather and climate....... From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 14:57:16 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jan 3 15:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Talking of weather........ Earthquakes, anyway..... References: Message-ID: JerryMouse wrote: > Rob wrote: > > > > This couldn't by any chance be because Sri Lanka is an island most > > of which is only a few feet above water and most people living on > > the land only a few feet above water whereas India is on the > > continent, a fair bit bigger than Sri Lanka and the majority of > > people live well away from the sea? > No, island or continent has little to do with it. Your ignorance is astounding, once again. The geology of the seabed and the topology of the land near the shore has EVERYTHING to do with the effects of tsunamis. From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 14:58:36 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jan 3 15:00:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Talking of weather........ Earthquakes, anyway..... References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > He's almost impossible to killfile because he changes identity with > the wind. JM morphs? Or are you thinking of the other troll(s)? From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 15:04:28 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jan 3 15:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Good-O for Wal-Mart References: <1103254204.627008@ursine.dyndns.org> Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > > Is there really no option but Wal Mart for you to shop in? Like, > > ANYWHERE else but there? > > Some places that IS the only option short of driving half way across > the state. Heh. The South Park Mal-wart episode was on again last Wednesday. What a riot! And unfortunately way to close to the truth..... From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 15:11:53 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jan 3 15:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Aww..... References: Message-ID: SylvesterthekatSylvesterthekatSylvesterthekatSylvesterthekat wrote: > > > > Hell, I bet anyone can lose weight on a crack/cocaine fueled diet! Nah, she's on major downers and anti-depressants (again). Sad thing is that when she recently lost all that weight and looked great (again) I saw her on some interview show actually speaking coherently! > > Hey Bob, make the most of this post while you can see it, the troll > will cancel it just as soon as he sees it! (hence my crazy name) I can't wait to get to the bottom of this.....still have 150 posts to read, wondering how the mystery cancellation thingie turns out......hopefully with a post from JT! From tmcgraw at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 12:18:10 2005 From: tmcgraw at spamcop.net (Tim McGraw) Date: Mon Jan 3 15:20:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Mary and Joseph, stay out of Elizabeth City, N.C. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: indigo wrote: > Frog Prince wrote: > >>Stranger things have happened in NC. Not too far from me a group of >>Christen (?) land lords refused to rent to single (new) mothers on the >>assertion that they were sinners. When confronted by the Local Right >>to Life Group (who was fronting the deposits) that these young women >>had elected to avoid abortion. The response: "they made the choice >>(to conceive and presumably carry the kid to term) they must live >>with the result (but not in my property).' > > That's just as illegal as refusing to rent to certain ethnic groups, isn't > it? Fair housing for ethnic groups is covered by federal law. IIRC, Kali is the only state that forbids landlords to refuse to rent based on religious beliefs (i.e., rent to an unmarried couple). From lady_saraho at hotmail.invalid Mon Jan 3 15:29:46 2005 From: lady_saraho at hotmail.invalid (LadySarah) Date: Mon Jan 3 15:30:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Cat" wrote in message news:cr7qmb$1hp$1@news.spamcop.net... > Cat wrote: >> Heidi wrote: >> >>> I'm forwarding back to the newsgroup all the messages that the fuckwit >>> is >>> canceling, just so y'all can see where he's sending them from and send >>> your >>> abuse reports. :) >> >> >> P.S. Congrats on making a royal ass of yourself with your false >> accusations and spamming the newsgroup with cancel headers. > > While we're at it, you've bitched about certain people's actions in this > newsgroup in the past, but posting cancel headers and falsely accusing > that person of being a troll seriously crosses a line and is uncalled for. Chill woman, my goodness. Must be a PMS day. -- LadySarah From lady_saraho at hotmail.invalid Mon Jan 3 15:36:54 2005 From: lady_saraho at hotmail.invalid (LadySarah) Date: Mon Jan 3 15:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Bill" wrote in message news:cr9ss7$aei$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > hell even she, and I don't agree on things sometimes, but you'd never see > me talking to, or speaking about her like that...regardless of the reason > for the disagreement. > > > JMO > Bill JMO, Cat is "special". [remembering abuse I take in here] -- LadySarah From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 15:39:55 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jan 3 15:40:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: Cat wrote: It's ridiculous that anyone would complain about > cancels of troll posts, It's NOBODY'S business who gets to read what around here. If I don't want to read a troll's posts I'll use a killfile or skip them. YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT, NOR DOES ANYONE ELSE, TO CANCEL ANY POSTS BUT YOUR OWN. From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Mon Jan 3 15:40:38 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Mon Jan 3 15:45:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Mary and Joseph, stay out of Elizabeth City, N.C. References: Message-ID: In article , "indigo" wrote: > Frog Prince wrote: > > > Stranger things have happened in NC. Not too far from me a group of > > Christen (?) land lords refused to rent to single (new) mothers on the > > assertion that they were sinners. When confronted by the Local Right > > to Life Group (who was fronting the deposits) that these young women > > had elected to avoid abortion. The response: "they made the choice > > (to conceive and presumably carry the kid to term) they must live > > with the result (but not in my property).' > > That's just as illegal as refusing to rent to certain ethnic groups, isn't > it? Nope. Single mothers are not a protected class under discrimination law. Some jurisdictions have passed laws barring discrimination against families in renting, but it's by no means a nationwide thing. -- D.F. Manno dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream will never die." From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 15:47:46 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jan 3 15:50:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: Bill wrote: > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:cr878g$afe$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > hmmmm, ok I plan to stay completely out of this, but I am curious?, > how could someone cancel someone else's post?, I didn't think that was > doable,( unless you were a forum admin, or something like that) hell I > barely know how to cancel my own post, much less anyone else's > postings. > > Just a question. > Bill It isn't that difficult in OE, I forget the exact way to do it (never tried it myself), but it happened a few years ago too. From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 15:49:19 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jan 3 15:50:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: JohnL wrote: > "Miss Betsy" wrote in news:cra1mk$dc0$1 > @news.spamcop.net: > > > I thought that he wasn't particularly interested in what went on in > > .social and that's ok by me since it is just 'social.' OTOH, to > > have the silliness crop up in the main spamcop group is something > > that he should do something about, IMHO, or that Julian should ask > > him to since people still do use the newsgroups for reporting help > > and as a user group. > > Well, his comments have always been that the "forum" is the only > support as far as he's concerned. > To me, he either should be responsible and handle problems or turn > things over to someone else. > I was a paying member for a few years, but no longer, mostly just for > that reason. You're right, JT doesn't care, and he'd just as soon cancel this group than be bothered by people emailing him and complaining about all the shit that's been going on here. You can't technically "ban" a proxy-using morpher anyway. From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 15:52:05 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jan 3 15:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: Bill wrote: > > well I guess when I get my blog site up, I'll "secretly" email the > address to a few of you, and let you pass it on to those you know > .... LOL > then we can have a couple of ya set as admin's and be done with the > troll stuff within mere moments of one's first post LOL. A .social Fight Club? ;-) > > Then we can go back to fighting about politics, and who wrote the > dumbest news story this week, or something constructive like that > again. > Amen to that, my brotha! From tmcgraw at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 12:52:49 2005 From: tmcgraw at spamcop.net (Tim McGraw) Date: Mon Jan 3 15:55:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: indigo wrote: > Cat wrote: >>It's ridiculous that anyone would complain about >>cancels of troll posts, > > It's NOBODY'S business who gets to read what around here. If I don't want to > read a troll's posts I'll use a killfile or skip them. > > YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT, NOR DOES ANYONE ELSE, TO CANCEL ANY POSTS BUT > YOUR OWN. Amen. From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 15:57:38 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Mon Jan 3 16:05:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:crcb4g$sck$1@news.spamcop.net... > You're right, JT doesn't care, and he'd just as soon cancel this group than > be bothered by people emailing him and complaining about all the shit that's > been going on here. You can't technically "ban" a proxy-using morpher > anyway. > That's not true, actually, he's been most accommodating and helpful about this issue, hopefully everyone's noticed that today things are working as they should. From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 15:58:50 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Mon Jan 3 16:05:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Good-O for Wal-Mart References: <1103254204.627008@ursine.dyndns.org> Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:crc8gc$qjv$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Heh. The South Park Mal-wart episode was on again last Wednesday. What a > riot! And unfortunately way to close to the truth..... Do people really poop all over the place when they die? LOL.... From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 15:59:47 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Mon Jan 3 16:05:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: AAARRRRGGGHHHHH! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:crc6f1$p5a$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > He said he was so frustrated he almost wiped my hard drive......he'd a been > road kill........ Shouldn't they have told you that they were making changes to the computers so that in the event of things going wrong you could have protected the stuff you had on your hard drive? Sounds like piss poor planning to me. From tmcgraw at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 13:20:11 2005 From: tmcgraw at spamcop.net (Tim McGraw) Date: Mon Jan 3 16:25:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] In mass annihilation race, tsunami pulls ahead of Merck Message-ID: The scientist at the centre of a dispute over the safety of the anti-inflammatory Vioxx has vowed to publish research that suggests up to 139,000 Americans have died or have been seriously injured as a result of taking the drug. http://news.ft.com/cms/s/b9967e4a-5cf0-11d9-bb9c-00000e2511c8.html From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 16:27:57 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jan 3 16:30:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: PING JohnL References: Message-ID: JohnL wrote: > "Frog Prince" wrote in > news:cra90j$i4p$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > This is an old article. There was an update over the holidays > > while I can't find the link right now but the updated report > > indicated that the procedure was a much greater success than > > previously anticipated. > > Indi's talked about this recently. > I think he's getting it done soon? Next Monday. From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 16:34:08 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jan 3 16:35:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: AAARRRRGGGHHHHH! References: Message-ID: Heidi wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:crc6f1$p5a$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > > > He said he was so frustrated he almost wiped my hard > > drive......he'd a been road kill........ > > Shouldn't they have told you that they were making changes to the > computers so that in the event of things going wrong you could have > protected the stuff you had on your hard drive? Sounds like piss poor > planning to me. They tell us when servers are going down for maintainance, but that's about it unless it's a major change like an OS upgrade. Theoretically all of our work files are supposed to be stored on network servers (which are backed up nightly), but if the intranet goes down (not terribly unusual) you can't do any work! So I keep everything locally and make manual backups to the server. So it'd really *my* fault if I had actually lost something, according to them. From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 16:41:43 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jan 3 16:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: AAARRRRGGGHHHHH! References: Message-ID: indigo wrote: And of course when the idiot finally got the new VirusScan console installed he started scanning my entire hard disk at highest priority, so my keyboard ceases to function every 10-15 seconds because the scan has been consuming all of my CPU cycles all afternoon! ASSHOLE! From johnl at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 21:51:44 2005 From: johnl at spamcop.net (JohnL) Date: Mon Jan 3 16:55:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: PING JohnL References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:crcdct$u0e$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > JohnL wrote: >> Indi's talked about this recently. >> I think he's getting it done soon? > > Next Monday. > > And be sure to keep us up on it. :) From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 16:57:26 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jan 3 17:00:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Mary and Joseph, stay out of Elizabeth City, N.C. References: Message-ID: D.F. Manno wrote: > > > > That's just as illegal as refusing to rent to certain ethnic > > groups, isn't it? > > Nope. Single mothers are not a protected class under discrimination > law. Why not? From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 16:57:45 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jan 3 17:00:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Good-O for Wal-Mart References: <1103254204.627008@ursine.dyndns.org> Message-ID: Heidi wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:crc8gc$qjv$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > Heh. The South Park Mal-wart episode was on again last Wednesday. > > What a riot! And unfortunately way to close to the truth..... > > Do people really poop all over the place when they die? LOL.... Even WalMarts do! ;-) From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 16:58:54 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jan 3 17:00:17 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: Heidi wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:crcb4g$sck$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > You're right, JT doesn't care, and he'd just as soon cancel this > > group than be bothered by people emailing him and complaining about > > all the shit that's been going on here. You can't technically "ban" > > a proxy-using morpher anyway. > > > That's not true, actually, he's been most accommodating and helpful > about this issue, hopefully everyone's noticed that today things are > working as they should. I haven't made it over to the main group yet, so what happened? From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 17:00:29 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jan 3 17:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In mass annihilation race, tsunami pulls ahead of Merck References: Message-ID: Tim McGraw wrote: > The scientist at the centre of a dispute over the safety of the > anti-inflammatory Vioxx has vowed to publish research that suggests up > to 139,000 Americans have died or have been seriously injured as a > result of taking the drug. > > http://news.ft.com/cms/s/b9967e4a-5cf0-11d9-bb9c-00000e2511c8.html Thank $diety that stuff didn't work on my lower back pain! I only took it for a few months about 5 years ago, else........ From tmcgraw at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 14:02:07 2005 From: tmcgraw at spamcop.net (Tim McGraw) Date: Mon Jan 3 17:05:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Mary and Joseph, stay out of Elizabeth City, N.C. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: indigo wrote: > D.F. Manno wrote: > >>>That's just as illegal as refusing to rent to certain ethnic >>>groups, isn't it? >> >>Nope. Single mothers are not a protected class under discrimination >>law. > > Why not? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Rights_Amendment From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 17:15:55 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jan 3 17:20:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: PING JohnL References: Message-ID: JohnL wrote: > "indigo" wrote in > news:crcdct$u0e$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > > > > > JohnL wrote: > >> Indi's talked about this recently. > >> I think he's getting it done soon? > > > > Next Monday. > > > > > And be sure to keep us up on it. :) Well, I'm getting nervous, of course.....stocking up on anything and everything I think I could need before I can get out and about again. I was about to purchase two cases of bottled water, but my post-op instructions (which just came in the mail) say no lifting anything heavier than 5 lbs for 2-3 months after surgery......and a gallon jug of water weighs more than that! Of course, those looked like generic instructions, I'm not having a generic procedure. Oh, and I just placed a call to the vendor of the disk replacement item the surgeon is going to use, it doesn't BLANTANTLY say that it is FDA approved for _cervical_ disk replacement, so I want more info, of course! On the bright side, I should have my car accident insurance check in hand by Thursday! They mailed it out today. On the not-bright side, our company just switched from "unlimited" sick leave to 10 days/year, earned at a pace of 3 hours per pay period. So I'll be out of work a lot longer than I could have been, I'm not rushing to get back to work and end up having to burn vacation days because I'm too sore/not well enough to work a full 8 hours 5 days a week. I'll end up being on disability leave for 6-8 weeks instead of 3-5 weeks. So everyone talk alot in here to keep me company while I'm stuck at home! ;-) And I need to write up a quasi-will for my Dad before I have my surgery just in case.......I want to make sure my disabled sister gets most of my estate (such as it is ;-) for her healthcare. Oops! Virus scanner window just popped up! GODDAMMIT! I got infected by BackDoor-AXJ.dll.gen when I viewed that spam this morning without any virus protection! Another nail in the coffin for that idiot tech when I talk to the IT group leader.......... From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 17:42:48 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Mon Jan 3 17:45:26 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:crcf6u$v4k$1@news.spamcop.net... > > I haven't made it over to the main group yet, so what happened? He hasn't announced anything, let's just say there should be no more rogue cancels, from anyone. From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Mon Jan 3 17:52:39 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Mon Jan 3 17:55:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In mass annihilation race, tsunami pulls ahead of Merck References: Message-ID: In article , "indigo" wrote: > Tim McGraw wrote: > > The scientist at the centre of a dispute over the safety of the > > anti-inflammatory Vioxx has vowed to publish research that suggests up > > to 139,000 Americans have died or have been seriously injured as a > > result of taking the drug. > > > > http://news.ft.com/cms/s/b9967e4a-5cf0-11d9-bb9c-00000e2511c8.html > > Thank $diety that stuff didn't work on my lower back pain! I only took it > for a few months about 5 years ago, else........ Ditto. I took it for a few weeks for my arthritis. I was in more pain than under the NSAID I was taking, so I switched back to it. I just hope they don't find anything wrong with that one. -- D.F. Manno dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream will never die." From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 17:56:33 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jan 3 18:00:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: Heidi wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:crcf6u$v4k$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > I haven't made it over to the main group yet, so what happened? > > He hasn't announced anything, let's just say there should be no more > rogue cancels, from anyone. Once I saw on the main group that the cancelfest had spread to the web forums I figured JT would be forced to do something........and was hoping killing the nntp groups wasn't one of his actions! From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 17:57:31 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jan 3 18:00:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In mass annihilation race, tsunami pulls ahead of Merck References: Message-ID: D.F. Manno wrote: > > > > Thank $diety that stuff didn't work on my lower back pain! I only > > took it for a few months about 5 years ago, else........ > > Ditto. I took it for a few weeks for my arthritis. I was in more pain > than under the NSAID I was taking, so I switched back to it. I just > hope they don't find anything wrong with that one. Is it a COX-2 inhibitor? If so.......I'd quit taking it as of right now..... From me at privacy.net Mon Jan 3 15:23:18 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Jan 3 18:25:24 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: AAARRRRGGGHHHHH! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:crc0td$kqv$1@news.spamcop.net... > I was on the phone with him for about an hour, he *threatened* to delete my > hard drive and start from scratch before I explained what a moron he > was........they're all losing their jobs (outsourcing the IT group next > month), so he doesn't give a rat's ass. I talked to his boss, however, and > he is going to get his ass chewed big time. > > My machine is now functioning but has absolutely NO protection of any kind > until he can get the friggin new AV software installed. With the outsourcing > thing they want everyone's PC to look identical as far as what software is > installed, so I have to "request" that they add that software I used to have > onto the "approved" list or their autobot will kill them off the next time > they scan my machine. Well hang on, surely you have firewalls as a first line of defence? They should knock out quite a bit of stuff. What power does that jerkwad think he has to clean your hard drive anyway? LOL, what an arse. Shame that they're outsourcing the IT department though... yet more job erosion. The people who'll replace them will be lower paid and even less motivated to do a good job. > > From me at privacy.net Mon Jan 3 15:24:33 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Jan 3 18:25:29 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: AAARRRRGGGHHHHH! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:crc19q$l9k$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Mr K. Mean wrote: > > indigo wrote: > > > Yeah, noticed alot of posts (for once, lately at least). But I'd > > > say about 100 posts automagically disappeared when I loaded the > > > newsgroup ;-) > > > > Probably the cancel fest then. > > > > Legal ones or more illegal cancels? They were all illegal, some courtesy of the troll (ok, most) and some courtesy of Cat. But you'll know that already, I'm a latecomer to the party LOL. From me at privacy.net Mon Jan 3 15:24:55 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Jan 3 18:25:33 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: AAARRRRGGGHHHHH! References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:crc1js$lmd$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Mr K. Mean" <47p772ok02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message > news:crc1cg$la6$1@news.spamcop.net... > > indigo wrote: > > > Legal ones or more illegal cancels? > > > > Yes. > > ROFL..... LOL, I was gonna laugh at that one too. From me at privacy.net Mon Jan 3 15:27:20 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Jan 3 18:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: AAARRRRGGGHHHHH! References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" <47p772ok02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:crc1ut$lqe$1@news.spamcop.net... > JohnL wrote: > > "Mr K. Mean" <47p772ok02@sneakemail.com> wrote in news:crc1cg$la6$1 > > @news.spamcop.net: > > > >>>Legal ones or more illegal cancels? > >> > >>Yes. > > > > LOL, beat me to that one. ;-) > > Amazing that I did. I'm just about to go postal on Vodafone here (do I > need to explain that expression to our non-American friends here? The > post office here seems pretty friendly and all.) Of course, it being a > bank holiday and all, nobody is around to answer the phones and figure > out why my connection drops every few minutes. I can't believe this is > the business class broadband. It is absolute crap. are you using one of those stupid USB modems or did you go out and buy a router modem? when in the UK last week we got a Netgear router/modem and that means the connection is always on (in theory). So far I don't think it's failed. It's also got a firewall on it of course that's stopping all the port scans that were happening (the minute we hooked the computer up to the internet it was infected with worms and viruses.. and I do mean the MINUTE). From me at privacy.net Mon Jan 3 15:29:37 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Jan 3 18:30:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Talking of weather........ Earthquakes, anyway..... References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:crc82s$qdn$1@news.spamcop.net... > > No, island or continent has little to do with it. > > Your ignorance is astounding, once again. The geology of the seabed and the > topology of the land near the shore has EVERYTHING to do with the effects of > tsunamis. Like I said in one of my hastily cancelled posts... he sees everything thru red-tinted glasses. From me at privacy.net Mon Jan 3 15:30:27 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Jan 3 18:35:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Talking of weather........ Earthquakes, anyway..... References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:crc85d$qe9$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > > > He's almost impossible to killfile because he changes identity with > > the wind. > > JM morphs? Or are you thinking of the other troll(s)? Oh THE troll... not JM who is a minor irritation at worst (to me) LOL Seems eerily quiet in here today, troll-wise. I'm guessing he got bored now he can't cancel left and right. From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 18:29:26 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Mon Jan 3 18:35:20 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:crcij1$2n9$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Once I saw on the main group that the cancelfest had spread to the web > forums I figured JT would be forced to do something........and was hoping > killing the nntp groups wasn't one of his actions! > The NNTP forums, IMO are still useful to most people, I can't imagine canceling them altogether, that would be really inconvenient....at least it's handled now, the jerk can spew all he wants, but that's ALL he can do.....LOL From me at privacy.net Mon Jan 3 15:32:15 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Jan 3 18:35:24 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:crcair$s15$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Cat wrote: > It's ridiculous that anyone would complain about > > cancels of troll posts, > > It's NOBODY'S business who gets to read what around here. If I don't want to > read a troll's posts I'll use a killfile or skip them. > > YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT, NOR DOES ANYONE ELSE, TO CANCEL ANY POSTS BUT > YOUR OWN. Pretty much what I said at the time (god knows if that post survived or not). Much as I dislike the idiot troll, I defend his right to say what he wants. I don't have to 'listen' to it. From me at privacy.net Mon Jan 3 15:37:36 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Jan 3 18:40:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: PING JohnL References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:crcg6r$cn$1@news.spamcop.net... > Well, I'm getting nervous, of course.....stocking up on anything and > everything I think I could need before I can get out and about again. I was > about to purchase two cases of bottled water, but my post-op instructions > (which just came in the mail) say no lifting anything heavier than 5 lbs for > 2-3 months after surgery......and a gallon jug of water weighs more than > that! Of course, those looked like generic instructions, I'm not having a > generic procedure. Oh, and I just placed a call to the vendor of the disk > replacement item the surgeon is going to use, it doesn't BLANTANTLY say that > it is FDA approved for _cervical_ disk replacement, so I want more info, of > course! Can't you buy a case of small bottles? Good luck with this surgery. I must have been out of the loop for a while and missed where you said you were having another op. > And I need to write up a quasi-will for my Dad before I have my surgery just > in case.......I want to make sure my disabled sister gets most of my estate > (such as it is ;-) for her healthcare. Who would be your assumed heir if you died intestate? Your dad I guess. So it's really just an instruction for him on what to do with your money if the worst happens. But it won't.. I fear we're stuck with you awhile yet LOL From me at privacy.net Mon Jan 3 15:40:22 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Jan 3 18:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:crckji$41u$1@news.spamcop.net... > The NNTP forums, IMO are still useful to most people, I can't imagine > canceling them altogether, that would be really inconvenient....at least > it's handled now, the jerk can spew all he wants, but that's ALL he can > do.....LOL Have you seen anything from him today? I'm guessing he's feeling like a kid who's had all his toys taken away from him. From me at privacy.net Mon Jan 3 18:52:46 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon Jan 3 18:55:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Good -- No GREAT NEWS!!!! Message-ID: After a number of roller coaster emotional rides DSS (department of social services) just this second call and they are on the way to my kid's home (son and daughter-in-law) with a foster 10 month old baby girl. We won't know if the child will be available for legal adoption for several months perhaps a year or more but this is GREAT news. My 4+ y.o. grand daughter is running round the house singing 'The Sister Finder is coming The Sister Finder' is coming' (FYI 'The Sister Finder' is my grand daughter's NAME for the social worker from DSS) More later I'm out the door. From me at privacy.net Mon Jan 3 15:56:26 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Jan 3 19:00:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Good -- No GREAT NEWS!!!! References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:crclsi$507$1@news.spamcop.net... > After a number of roller coaster emotional rides DSS (department of social > services) just this second call and they are on the way to my kid's home > (son and daughter-in-law) with a foster 10 month old baby girl. We won't > know if the child will be available for legal adoption for several months > perhaps a year or more but this is GREAT news. > > My 4+ y.o. grand daughter is running round the house singing 'The Sister > Finder is coming The Sister Finder' is coming' (FYI 'The Sister Finder' is > my grand daughter's NAME for the social worker from DSS) > > More later I'm out the door. I hope it all works out for everyone. Of course it depends on the reason for the fostering in the first place. If the real mother is willing and able then obviously it'd be better for the child to be with her. If she's just sick or something I hope she can get back on her feet. From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 19:02:35 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Mon Jan 3 19:05:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:crcl54$4k2$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Have you seen anything from him today? I'm guessing he's feeling like a kid > who's had all his toys taken away from him. > NNNOPE....not a peep....he's probably so frustrated he's having himself a BIG wankfest...... :D From TMHRVMFWREVN at spammotel.com Mon Jan 3 19:07:03 2005 From: TMHRVMFWREVN at spammotel.com (Rob) Date: Mon Jan 3 19:10:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Talking of weather........ Earthquakes, anyway..... References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:crc0iv$kmp$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Rob" wrote in message > news:crbf7k$9lt$2@news.spamcop.net... > > I had come to the same conclusion. I don't think I've ever come across > in a > > newsgroup someone that has such an effect on me that I wake up in the > > morning thinking about what they have said and feeling angry with them. I > > don't like that feeling and although I very rarely use it I think this is > a > > kill file job. > > He's almost impossible to killfile because he changes identity with the > wind. But I don't see any posts today... maybe JT also managed to ban him. > However, I've not really read any of his posts for a while so whatever he's > been saying hasn't bothered me. > > Do you mean to say that this was the guy that everyone was calling a Troll? I hadn't realized, it explains everything. I thought he was being serious and deluded, didn't realize he was a sociopath trying to wind people up and using the worlds worse disaster and deaths of countless thousands to do so. He will get his karma a thousand fold. His constant identity changes will reflect upon his psyche and he will end up in a secure wing somewhere. So mote it be. Rob From nospam at bisusa.com Mon Jan 3 18:26:11 2005 From: nospam at bisusa.com (JerryMouse) Date: Mon Jan 3 19:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: At least Republicans won't starve... References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > > Where does Ben n Jerry's fit into this list? Ooh! Good question! Also Starbucks! Maybe they're in a category different from "Restaurants." Maybe "Dens?" An aside --- I went to a Starbucks last week (to meet someone). First time I'd been to Starbucks in, oh, six years. I normally avoid that part of town (the 1500 or so square feet comprising Starbucks). I asked for "Folger's Instant coffee, or a close to it as you can get." They gave me something similar to that which I had in Turkey. Now here's what's amazing: During the two hours there I took note of the patrons. To my surprise, none were drinking bong-water, shooting up, had more parts pierced than they had dangly-bits, and none had lice-infested, stringy hair down to their waist. None, so far as I could tell, had festering sores or smelled bad. The customers seemed polite and well-mannered. A couple of people were even reading. All in all, my toe in the liberal waters wasn't too horrid. Fortunately, I was well armed, so, if things had gone south in a hurry, I could have made a getaway. From bert at visi.com Tue Jan 4 00:29:34 2005 From: bert at visi.com (Bert Hyman) Date: Mon Jan 3 19:30:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In mass annihilation race, tsunami pulls ahead of Merck References: Message-ID: In news:crccub$tf5$1@news.spamcop.net Tim McGraw wrote: > The scientist at the centre of a dispute over the safety of the > anti-inflammatory Vioxx has vowed to publish research that suggests up > to 139,000 Americans have died or have been seriously injured as a > result of taking the drug. So, what of all the other drugs that Merck's produced over the years? -- Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@visi.com From nospam at bisusa.com Mon Jan 3 18:31:13 2005 From: nospam at bisusa.com (JerryMouse) Date: Mon Jan 3 19:35:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: This may save your life! References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > "JerryMouse" < > >> I live in Texas where there are a LOT of Bowie Knives; we do NOT >> have a vampire problem. (Admittedly, one or two wander in from time >> to time - there's always somebody who didn't get the word - but they >> don't last long.) > > > Who need a vampire when you have the likes of Ken Lay, ENRON, et all? That Enron business has been blown out of all proportion. Enron's accounting shenanigans principly bothered two groups: 1. The Enron employees who were greedily plowing all their ponzi-scheme funny-money back into Enron stock, and 2. The citizens of California. No one gives a fig about either group. Serves both of them right, you ask me. From me at privacy.net Mon Jan 3 19:56:01 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon Jan 3 20:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: This may save your life! References: Message-ID: "JerryMouse" | > | >> I live in Texas where there are a LOT of Bowie Knives; we do NOT | >> have a vampire problem. (Admittedly, one or two wander in from time | >> to time - there's always somebody who didn't get the word - but they | >> don't last long.) | > | > | > Who need a vampire when you have the likes of Ken Lay, ENRON, et all? | | That Enron business has been blown out of all proportion. Enron's accounting | shenanigans principly bothered two groups: | | 1. The Enron employees who were greedily plowing all their ponzi-scheme | funny-money back into Enron stock, and | | 2. The citizens of California. | | No one gives a fig about either group. Serves both of them right, you ask | me. You're right that this admin is more concrened with Martha S. and her insider trading. From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Mon Jan 3 20:03:31 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Mon Jan 3 20:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In mass annihilation race, tsunami pulls ahead of Merck References: Message-ID: In article , "indigo" wrote: > D.F. Manno wrote: > > > > Ditto. I took it for a few weeks for my arthritis. I was in more pain > > than under the NSAID I was taking, so I switched back to it. I just > > hope they don't find anything wrong with that one. > > Is it a COX-2 inhibitor? If so.......I'd quit taking it as of right now..... No. As I said, it's an NSAID (non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug). Traditional NSAIDs like nabumetone (Relafen) inhibit both COX-1 and COX-2 enzymes. Since blocking COX-1 suppresses the formation of blood clots (while blocking COX-2 alone promotes formation of clots), the NSAIDs don't have the same cardiovascular effect. -- D.F. Manno dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream will never die." From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 20:09:38 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Mon Jan 3 20:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: This may save your life! References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:crcpmd$7pt$1@news.spamcop.net... > > You're right that this admin is more concrened with Martha S. and her > insider trading. Which, by the way, she was never charged with.....but prosecuted and jailed anyway. From me at privacy.net Mon Jan 3 20:06:54 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon Jan 3 20:15:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: AAARRRRGGGHHHHH! References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" | >>>Yeah, noticed alot of posts (for once, lately at least). But I'd | >>>say about 100 posts automagically disappeared when I loaded the | >>>newsgroup ;-) | >> | >>Probably the cancel fest then. | > | > Legal ones or more illegal cancels? | | Yes. Thank you From me at privacy.net Mon Jan 3 17:16:55 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Jan 3 20:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Wow.. kudos to Sandra Bullock. Message-ID: http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/03/tsunami.bullock.ap/index.html NEW YORK (AP) -- Actress Sandra Bullock has donated $1 million to the American Red Cross to help relief efforts in countries affected by the deadly earthquake and tsunamis in southern Asia and eastern Africa. I hope other wealthy movie stars and the like will do as much. From me at privacy.net Mon Jan 3 17:19:27 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Jan 3 20:20:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: AAARRRRGGGHHHHH! References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" <47p772ok02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:crcm5n$5at$1@news.spamcop.net... > The USB modem is crap and I did go buy a router. It works fine except I > can't get all the stuff I need to do in VPN when I'm working to work > right yet. I think it has something to do with the WINS resolution > which might be getting blocked by the router and I haven't been able to > figure out what to change yet. When I need to work, I have to plug the > USB thing in and then when I'm done, I switch back to the other one. That sucks, I'd be mightily scared of being port scanned and bombed just using that daft thing. At least there you *can* go out and buy router modems. Why you can't get them here is totally beyond me. > > I noticed tonight when somebody called me that there was a ton of noise > on the phone line. So, I'm guessing that's part of my current problem > with the bad internet connection. Still, bank holiday, like anybody is > going to do anything about it today. (And I did try calling every > number I could find.) No, we can't help you then I got transfered to a > fax machine and I gave up. I'll have to deal with my normal support > people who conveniently are only in from 9-5 M-F. Yeah, you won't get much joy there on holidays generally. And they do have a LOT of holidays compared with here LOL. Who supplies your telephone line? Is it a cable thing or BT? Usually BT are good (in my experience anyway). From me at privacy.net Mon Jan 3 17:19:56 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Jan 3 20:20:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:crcmhp$5mj$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:crcl54$4k2$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > Have you seen anything from him today? I'm guessing he's feeling like a > kid > > who's had all his toys taken away from him. > > > NNNOPE....not a peep....he's probably so frustrated he's having himself a > BIG wankfest...... :D ah that goes without saying... I daresay it's his major pastime From me at privacy.net Mon Jan 3 17:22:22 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Jan 3 20:25:23 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: At least Republicans won't starve... References: Message-ID: "JerryMouse" wrote in message news:crcnqr$6og$1@news.spamcop.net... > I went to a Starbucks last week (to meet someone). First time I'd been to > Starbucks in, oh, six years. I normally avoid that part of town (the 1500 or > so square feet comprising Starbucks). I asked for "Folger's Instant coffee, > or a close to it as you can get." They gave me something similar to that > which I had in Turkey. > > Now here's what's amazing: During the two hours there I took note of the > patrons. To my surprise, none were drinking bong-water, shooting up, had > more parts pierced than they had dangly-bits, and none had lice-infested, > stringy hair down to their waist. None, so far as I could tell, had > festering sores or smelled bad. > > The customers seemed polite and well-mannered. A couple of people were even > reading. > > All in all, my toe in the liberal waters wasn't too horrid. Fortunately, I > was well armed, so, if things had gone south in a hurry, I could have made a > getaway. Hardly anything amazing about that. Was that truly how you imagined 'liberals' to be? I trust this has gone some way to opening your eyes to the fact that few people even on the far right or the far left are real cranks. Simply going to Starbucks is hardly a 'liberal' activity. Talk about an insane misconception! From me at privacy.net Mon Jan 3 17:23:56 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Jan 3 20:25:26 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: This may save your life! References: Message-ID: "JerryMouse" wrote in message news:crco4a$6sv$1@news.spamcop.net... > That Enron business has been blown out of all proportion. Enron's accounting > shenanigans principly bothered two groups: > > 1. The Enron employees who were greedily plowing all their ponzi-scheme > funny-money back into Enron stock, and > > 2. The citizens of California. > > No one gives a fig about either group. Serves both of them right, you ask > me. Define 'no one'. You and your simple-minded right wing fellows? You are such a total ass, it's hard to believe you're for real. If California broke away from the Union, the rest of you would be mightily giving a fig about it. From johnl at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 01:51:46 2005 From: johnl at spamcop.net (JohnL) Date: Mon Jan 3 20:55:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: At least Republicans won't starve... References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in news:crcr4c$8mj$1 @news.spamcop.net: > Talk about an insane misconception! > Uh, what else would you expect? :) From me at privacy.net Mon Jan 3 22:00:20 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon Jan 3 22:05:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Good -- No GREAT NEWS!!!! Message-ID: After a number of roller coaster emotional rides DSS (department of social services) just this second call and they are on the way to my kid's home (son and daughter-in-law) with a foster 10 month old baby girl. We won't know if the child will be available for legal adoption for several months perhaps a year or more but this is GREAT news. My 4+ y.o. grand daughter is running round the house singing 'The Sister Finder is coming The Sister Finder' is coming' (FYI 'The Sister Finder' is my grand daughter's NAME for the social worker from DSS) More later I'm out the door. From me at privacy.net Mon Jan 3 22:01:53 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon Jan 3 22:05:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] My post seem to be instantly disappearing Message-ID: My post seem to be instantly disappearing what's up? From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 22:06:10 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon Jan 3 22:10:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Good -- No GREAT NEWS!!!! Message-ID: After a number of roller coaster emotional rides DSS (department of social services) just this second call and they are on the way to my kid's home (son and daughter-in-law are now licensed foster-to-adopt parents) with a 10 month old baby girl. We won't know if the child will be available for legal adoption for several months perhaps a year or more but this is GREAT news. My 4+ y.o. grand daughter is running round the house singing 'The Sister Finder is coming The Sister Finder' is coming' (FYI 'The Sister Finder' is my grand daughter's NAME for the social worker from DSS) From borgholio at storymind.com Mon Jan 3 19:11:18 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Mon Jan 3 22:15:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: My post seem to be instantly disappearing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > My post seem to be instantly disappearing what's up? > > Worked fine for me...I saw all three. Congrats x 3, btw. From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 22:12:33 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon Jan 3 22:15:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: My post seem to be instantly disappearing References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:crd1ge$cko$1@news.spamcop.net... | Frog Prince wrote: | > My post seem to be instantly disappearing what's up? | > | > | | Worked fine for me...I saw all three. Congrats x 3, btw. From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 22:13:04 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon Jan 3 22:15:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: My post seem to be instantly disappearing References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:crd1ge$cko$1@news.spamcop.net... | Frog Prince wrote: | > My post seem to be instantly disappearing what's up? | > | > | | Worked fine for me...I saw all three. Congrats x 3, btw. Thanks I though I was losing my mind. From borgholio at storymind.com Mon Jan 3 19:16:13 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Mon Jan 3 22:20:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: My post seem to be instantly disappearing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > "Borgholio" wrote in message > news:crd1ge$cko$1@news.spamcop.net... > | Frog Prince wrote: > | > My post seem to be instantly disappearing what's up? > | > > | > > | > | Worked fine for me...I saw all three. Congrats x 3, btw. > > Thanks I though I was losing my mind. > > Well, you are...but that's not the problem this time. From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 22:14:47 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Mon Jan 3 22:20:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: My post seem to be instantly disappearing References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:crd0v7$c7d$1@news.spamcop.net... > My post seem to be instantly disappearing what's up? > There's a post in control.cancel, did you cancel it by mistake? I've seen all three of the originals. If you didn't cancel it, email JT. From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Mon Jan 3 22:36:11 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Mon Jan 3 22:40:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: At least Republicans won't starve... References: Message-ID: In article , "Sylvesterthekat" wrote: > Talk about an insane misconception! I think you've just described him perfectly--he's an insane misconception. -- D.F. Manno dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream will never die." From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 22:36:04 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon Jan 3 22:40:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: My post seem to be instantly disappearing References: Message-ID: "Heidi" | > My post seem to be instantly disappearing what's up? | > | There's a post in control.cancel, did you cancel it by mistake? I've seen | all three of the originals. If you didn't cancel it, email JT. That cancel was mine as it was a blank response with nothing I added. FIWI I found out what was causing the problem. I was using me@privacy.net as a response addy and had kill filed someone else (not on this new group) using the same email address. From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 22:37:04 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon Jan 3 22:40:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: My post seem to be instantly disappearing References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" | > | > My post seem to be instantly disappearing what's up? | > | | > | Worked fine for me...I saw all three. Congrats x 3, btw. | > | > Thanks I though I was losing my mind. | > | | Well, you are...but that's not the problem this time. Yea of all the things I've lost I miss my mind the most ... From johnl at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 04:03:03 2005 From: johnl at spamcop.net (JohnL) Date: Mon Jan 3 23:05:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: My post seem to be instantly disappearing References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in news:crd315$dj5$2 @news.spamcop.net: > Yea of all the things I've lost I miss my mind the most ... ...and how did you know you lost it??? From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Jan 3 22:57:02 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon Jan 3 23:10:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: At least Republicans won't starve... References: Message-ID: "D.F. Manno" | | I think you've just described him perfectly--he's an insane | misconception. Accidents cause people? From nobody at nowhere.com.INVALID Mon Jan 3 21:41:30 2005 From: nobody at nowhere.com.INVALID (GregR) Date: Tue Jan 4 00:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Cat wrote: > I'm not a fool, but whatever. She may not know they're my headers, but > posting them and labeling them as the troll's headers was wrong of her. > She's the one who apparently spends all her free time reading headers > over in .cancel. So let me get this straight... she reads through all of the posts in control.cancel, and finds some with your IP on them - yet she also claims to have you kill-filed? (on both counts) The word "compulsive-obsessive" comes to mind (or is that two words?), but I don't think even that's adequate enough to describe this level of personality disorder. Freud would probably have a field day. :-) There's someone where I work with a similar behavior problem - we deal with her by treating her as a non-entity. Maybe we should do the same in this case - works for me. :-) As to her false accusations against you (and her suggestion that people file false abuse complaints with your ISP), you might want to file a (legitimate) complaint with *her* ISP. Don't know if it would do any good, but it might make her think twice before she pulls a stunt like this again. -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> I voted for Kerry, it's not my problem. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." George W. Bush 8/5/04 From nobody at nowhere.com.INVALID Mon Jan 3 21:44:06 2005 From: nobody at nowhere.com.INVALID (GregR) Date: Tue Jan 4 00:45:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Cat wrote: > Heidi wrote: > >> I am ROFL....looks like someone just got caught with her pants down, >> canceling posts that were not her own..... > > > They were the troll posts, you idiot! Get over it and move on! It's obvious that the H-troll is just trying to get you riled up (and her past behavior sure validates that), so my advice would be to just ignore her lame shenanigans and deny her that pleasure. It's also rather obvious that she has *no* life outside of these NGs (gee, I wonder why...), so maybe she's jealous of yours? :-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> I voted for Kerry, it's not my problem. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." George W. Bush 8/5/04 From nobody at nowhere.com.INVALID Mon Jan 3 21:46:56 2005 From: nobody at nowhere.com.INVALID (GregR) Date: Tue Jan 4 00:50:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: My post seem to be instantly disappearing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: JohnL wrote: > ...and how did you know you lost it??? Ask Dan Quayle - didn't he say "A mind is a terrible thing to lose"? :-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> I voted for Kerry, it's not my problem. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." George W. Bush 8/5/04 From nobody at nowhere.com.INVALID Mon Jan 3 21:47:22 2005 From: nobody at nowhere.com.INVALID (GregR) Date: Tue Jan 4 00:50:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Military Coffins: The Photos You're Not Supposed to See Message-ID: http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/coffin_photos/ http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/coffin_photos/dover/ -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> I voted for Kerry, it's not my problem. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." George W. Bush 8/5/04 From nobody at nowhere.com.INVALID Mon Jan 3 21:48:00 2005 From: nobody at nowhere.com.INVALID (GregR) Date: Tue Jan 4 00:50:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] The Human Cost of Bush's War Message-ID: Warning - Some pictures are rather graphic: http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/wounded/gallery.htm -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> I voted for Kerry, it's not my problem. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." George W. Bush 8/5/04 From nobody at nowhere.com.INVALID Mon Jan 3 22:00:17 2005 From: nobody at nowhere.com.INVALID (GregR) Date: Tue Jan 4 01:05:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bob W. wrote: > Someone made a mistake. > > Instead of simply informing that person of their mistake, you tore into > her, saying she "made an ass of herself." > > That, my dear, is vitriol. Bob: There's a history here that you might not be aware of, since a lot of it went down before you got here. It's already been discussed to death in the NGs so I won't re-hash it here, but I'll be glad to do so via e-mail if you're interested in hearing the other side of the issue. If not, don't sweat it - your option. -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> I voted for Kerry, it's not my problem. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." George W. Bush 8/5/04 From johnl at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 07:01:51 2005 From: johnl at spamcop.net (JohnL) Date: Tue Jan 4 02:05:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: My post seem to be instantly disappearing References: Message-ID: GregR wrote in news:crdakh$ik1$3 @news.spamcop.net: > Ask Dan Quayle - didn't he say "A mind is a terrible thing to lose"? :-) And it's also the second thing to go as you age. From nobody at nowhere.com.INVALID Mon Jan 3 23:03:42 2005 From: nobody at nowhere.com.INVALID (GregR) Date: Tue Jan 4 02:05:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Wow.. kudos to Sandra Bullock. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bob W. wrote: > Have I mentioned that if I were inclined to be a stalker, she would be > way, way up near the top of my "Faves" list? > > And see? there she goes just reinforcing my notion that she's an > incredible person. I haven't had the pleasure of working with her (yet... :-)), but those who have say that she's just "one of the gang" and a dream to work with. Now if you want some horror stories (about other celebs), I'm sure we've both got more than enough of those as well... ;-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> I voted for Kerry, it's not my problem. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." George W. Bush 8/5/04 From nobody at nowhere.com.INVALID Mon Jan 3 23:05:47 2005 From: nobody at nowhere.com.INVALID (GregR) Date: Tue Jan 4 02:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: My post seem to be instantly disappearing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: JohnL wrote: > And it's also the second thing to go as you age. I'm assuming you also mean that you forget what the first was... wait a minute, what were we talking about again?... :-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> I voted for Kerry, it's not my problem. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." George W. Bush 8/5/04 From johnl at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 07:06:27 2005 From: johnl at spamcop.net (JohnL) Date: Tue Jan 4 02:10:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: My post seem to be instantly disappearing References: Message-ID: GregR wrote in news:crdf8c$lbs$2 @news.spamcop.net: > JohnL wrote: > >> And it's also the second thing to go as you age. > > I'm assuming you also mean that you forget what the first was... wait a > minute, what were we talking about again?... :-) > Huh????? ;-) From nobody at nowhere.com.INVALID Mon Jan 3 23:29:31 2005 From: nobody at nowhere.com.INVALID (GregR) Date: Tue Jan 4 02:30:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bob W. wrote: > Ooh, no. I know 'bout that particular interpersonal thang. > > What you may have missed were my comments back then, which obviously had > no effect. :/ Not sure which particular incident you're referring to here - the one I was talking about happened (lessee...) right at 5 years ago, I guess. Yeah, it was right around the time of the Y2K changeover. Sheesh, some people hold l-o-n-g grudges... :-) > Before *I* got here? > > Wait-- Wasn't it -- what? a year or more ago? I think we're talking about two different things. But they may be related. > Or do you mean before *that*? > > I've been a Spamcop member for something like 5+ years... Don't know > when I started hanging out in .social. Yeah, I don't remember you being a socialite in those days (the group was a l-o-t smaller then), unless you used a different posting name. > Jeeze... I can't even remember when I got here. Sad, ain't it? Perhaps the good Doctor JohnL can help you with that malady. If not, I'm sure he can empathize... ;-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> I voted for Kerry, it's not my problem. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." George W. Bush 8/5/04 From nobody at nowhere.com.INVALID Mon Jan 3 23:33:07 2005 From: nobody at nowhere.com.INVALID (GregR) Date: Tue Jan 4 02:35:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Human Cost of Bush's War In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bob W. wrote: > I'd seen the Dover pix, but not the wounded. > > It's good and right that someone is preserving those photos for public > access. Yep, despite BushCo's lame attempts at suppression. Doesn't anyone in that regime read and understand history? Oops, a momentary lapse of reason on my part... ;-) Somehow truth always seems to find its way out of the darkness and into the light. -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> I voted for Kerry, it's not my problem. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." George W. Bush 8/5/04 From David1 at suescornerweb.com Tue Jan 4 05:14:05 2005 From: David1 at suescornerweb.com (David 1) Date: Tue Jan 4 05:20:16 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tum ti tum In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: indigo wrote: > David 1 wrote: > >>>Start> Control Panel> Administrative Tools> Services> >>> >>>Double-click the Indexing Service and choose your settings from the >>>options that appear. In this case, change the "startup type" to >>>manual or disabled. >>> >>> >> >>I guess with 98 I dont' have to worry about that > > > Hmmm...I just got off of 98 at home, I think it has it? > > welp then I deleed it in one of my deleting rampages -- David 1 bad addy spamtrap@suescornerweb.com From bcs1 at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 07:14:31 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bill) Date: Tue Jan 4 07:15:29 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" <47p772ok02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:craq3k$t57$1@news.spamcop.net... > David 1 wrote: >> Bill wrote: >> >>> "MedEvul" wrote in message >>> news:cr9d8h$14f$1@news.spamcop.net... >> >>> well at the risk of getting canceled, or being the target of ur >>> playfulness, ( or whatever you're calling it) I gotta say this. >>> >>> "D00d, that shit ain't even right" >>> >>> hell even she, and I don't agree on things sometimes, but you'd never >>> see me talking to, or speaking about her like that...regardless of the >>> reason for the disagreement. >>> >>> JMO >>> Bill >> >> Agreed > > Bill and David 1, it would be nice if you would stop responding to the > troll, please. well normally I would have stay'd completely out of it, but like I said even though I don't always see eye to eye with someone, I doubt I would ever speak of them in that fashion, and OFC everyone knows I like Heidi....so I just couldn't let "that" one sit. Bill BTW Hi K From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 07:34:29 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue Jan 4 07:55:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: My post seem to be instantly disappearing References: Message-ID: "JohnL" | > Yea of all the things I've lost I miss my mind the most ... | | ...and how did you know you lost it??? I'm here (.social) ain't I? What more proof do you require? From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 07:35:32 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue Jan 4 07:55:17 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: My post seem to be instantly disappearing References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns95D451CE096johnlspamcopnet@216.154.195.61... | GregR wrote in news:crdakh$ik1$3 | @news.spamcop.net: | | > Ask Dan Quayle - didn't he say "A mind is a terrible thing to lose"? :-) | | And it's also the second thing to go as you age. Memory is the second thing to go but ... I can't remember what's first .... From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 07:36:23 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue Jan 4 07:55:20 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: My post seem to be instantly disappearing References: Message-ID: "JohnL" | >> And it's also the second thing to go as you age. | > | > I'm assuming you also mean that you forget what the first was... wait a | > minute, what were we talking about again?... :-) | > | | Huh????? ;-) Ask your S.O. From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 07:37:05 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue Jan 4 07:55:24 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: My post seem to be instantly disappearing References: Message-ID: "Bob W." | > | > My post seem to be instantly disappearing what's up? | > | > | > | There's a post in control.cancel, did you cancel it by mistake? I've seen | > | all three of the originals. If you didn't cancel it, email JT. | > | > That cancel was mine as it was a blank response with nothing I added. | > | > FIWI I found out what was causing the problem. I was using me@privacy.net | > as a response addy and had kill filed someone else (not on this new group) | > using the same email address. | | Such self-loathing! Kill-filing one's self! Is that a hit to JM? From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 07:58:44 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue Jan 4 08:00:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Good -- No GREAT NEWS!!!! References: Message-ID: "Bob W." | > After a number of roller coaster emotional rides DSS (department of social | > services) just this second called and they are on the way to my kid's home | > (son and daughter-in-law) with a foster 10 month old baby girl. We won't | > know if the child will be available for legal adoption for several months | > perhaps a year or more but this is GREAT news. | | Excellent! | | > My 4+ y.o. grand daughter is running round the house singing 'The Sister | > Finder is coming The Sister Finder' is coming' (FYI 'The Sister Finder' is | > my grand daughter's NAME for the social worker from DSS) | | LOL! | | > More later I'm out the door. | | Great stuff... I'll keep my fingers crossed! I have to be careful what I post (DSS privacy rules -- rule!) but the kid is precious. Round face, big deep brown eyes (that don't miss much), olive skin (when she gets older she's going to be a heart breaker) she's healthy and appears well cared for (lack of physical care is not the reason she's in the system that much I can share). She's a bit disoriented (clinging to my daughter like a leach) but does relate well to my 4 y.o. grand daughter (a very Good Thing). She was reluctant to go to my wife and has no use for either my son or me at this point but this could be simply that there were no male influences in her life. We're told that once she gets to know us she should be better on that score especially as she has my grand daughter as a model of what is safe. It fortunate that my DIL owns a store that sells baby stuff (www.puddleduckkids.com -- a beta site BTW) so we were able to have a nursery up and running within less than an hour of the kid's arrival. (nothing like a phone call to the church's men's groups for willing hands to move heavy 'stuff' on short notice). Reports this AM both kids played hard (a serious game of 'here you try this toy) until about an hour after 'normal' bed time and passed out on the play room 'fuzzy' rug. Today should be an interesting experience for all (my son has the day off). From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 08:01:14 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue Jan 4 08:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Bob W." | Jeeze... I can't even remember when I got here. Sad, ain't it? | | Some of us were born here? From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 09:02:03 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Tue Jan 4 09:05:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Bill" wrote in message news:cre15u$vhj$1@news.spamcop.net... > well normally I would have stay'd completely out of it, but like I said > even though I don't always see eye to eye with someone, I doubt I would ever > speak of them in that fashion, and OFC everyone knows I like Heidi....so I > just couldn't let "that" one sit. Well thank you for the thought, but don't take the bait....he doesn't bother me in the least! From me at privacy.net Tue Jan 4 06:05:51 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Tue Jan 4 09:10:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Wow.. kudos to Sandra Bullock. References: Message-ID: "Bob W." wrote in message news:responseguard-EB1B0A.22583003012005@news.cesmail.net... > Have I mentioned that if I were inclined to be a stalker, she would be > way, way up near the top of my "Faves" list? > > And see? there she goes just reinforcing my notion that she's an > incredible person. > > *sigh* > > LOL, this I can understand, I think she's great. From me at privacy.net Tue Jan 4 06:06:46 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Tue Jan 4 09:10:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: My post seem to be instantly disappearing References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:crd0v7$c7d$1@news.spamcop.net... > My post seem to be instantly disappearing what's up? I see it 3 times. Are you filtering your own posts? From me at privacy.net Tue Jan 4 06:07:26 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Tue Jan 4 09:10:16 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: At least Republicans won't starve... References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns95D3BFE26659Cjohnlspamcopnet@216.154.195.61... > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in news:crcr4c$8mj$1 > @news.spamcop.net: > > > Talk about an insane misconception! > > > > Uh, what else would you expect? :) >From him, not much I guess. From me at privacy.net Tue Jan 4 06:08:16 2005 From: me at privacy.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Tue Jan 4 09:10:20 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: My post seem to be instantly disappearing References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:crd315$dj5$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Heidi" > > | > My post seem to be instantly disappearing what's up? > | > > | There's a post in control.cancel, did you cancel it by mistake? I've seen > | all three of the originals. If you didn't cancel it, email JT. > > That cancel was mine as it was a blank response with nothing I added. > > FIWI I found out what was causing the problem. I was using me@privacy.net > as a response addy and had kill filed someone else (not on this new group) > using the same email address. Guess that means he's not seeing my responses any more eh? From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 06:10:25 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Tue Jan 4 09:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Talking of weather........ Earthquakes, anyway..... References: Message-ID: "Bob W." wrote in message news:responseguard-BE02BA.22451903012005@news.cesmail.net... > In article , > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote: > > > "Rob" wrote in message > > news:crbf7k$9lt$2@news.spamcop.net... > > > I had come to the same conclusion. I don't think I've ever come across > > in a > > > newsgroup someone that has such an effect on me that I wake up in the > > > morning thinking about what they have said and feeling angry with them. I > > > don't like that feeling and although I very rarely use it I think this is > > a > > > kill file job. > > > > He's almost impossible to killfile because he changes identity with the > > wind. But I don't see any posts today... maybe JT also managed to ban him. > > However, I've not really read any of his posts for a while so whatever he's > > been saying hasn't bothered me. > > I think we're talking about JM... Really?! Well in that case, he's easy to killfile. Rob shoulda done it long ago. From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 09:10:29 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Jan 4 09:15:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Talking of weather........ Earthquakes, anyway..... References: Message-ID: Bob W. wrote: > > > > I wonder what affect that tilt change will have on our weather and > > climate....... > > We've already screwed things up so much... How would we know? :/ > Oh, I assume some scientist could pretty easily calculate the change in sunrise/sunset and angle of inclination to the sun for various areas or whatever due to the change in tilt of the axis. The effects......well.......who knows? For once, I don't have a good feel for the magnitude of the change, orbital mechanics was never really my gig ;-) From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 06:11:00 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Tue Jan 4 09:15:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Talking of weather........ Earthquakes, anyway..... References: Message-ID: "Bob W." wrote in message news:responseguard-6C3DAF.22504903012005@news.cesmail.net... > We've already screwed things up so much... How would we know? :/ > > Somebody was talking (in here?) about global warming contributing to the > earthquake... then somebody else pooh-poohed the idea. > > But I've heard from several people here in LA that earthquakes seem to > happen more often during certain seasonal changes. > > I'm not sure if this is urban legend or not... No solid proof for it so at the moment it has to be legend. From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 09:14:07 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Jan 4 09:15:19 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: AAARRRRGGGHHHHH! References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > Well hang on, surely you have firewalls as a first line of defence? > They should knock out quite a bit of stuff. Only for direct port attacks, anything that slips past the email filters we're exposed to (well, I *wasn't* while I had SpamPal). > > What power does that jerkwad think he has to clean your hard drive > anyway? LOL, what an arse. He was trying to do his job and got supremely frustrated by my "illegal activities" that were preventing him from doing it. Lucky for him he didn't wipe it! > > Shame that they're outsourcing the IT department though... yet more > job erosion. The people who'll replace them will be lower paid and > even less motivated to do a good job. Yeah, what's worse is we won't have any on site personnel! Stupid move to save a few bucks. Hopefully it will be a disaster ;-) From devnull at privacy1834818401939109hi.co.uk Tue Jan 4 06:15:21 2005 From: devnull at privacy1834818401939109hi.co.uk (SylvesterthekatSylvesterthekatSylvesterthekatSylvesterthekat) Date: Tue Jan 4 09:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: GregR wrote: > So let me get this straight... she reads through all of the posts in > control.cancel, and finds some with your IP on them - yet she also > claims to have you kill-filed? Hey asshole, there's no way you can spin this to make Cat look like the queen of clean. If you have someone killfiled based on either their NAME or their ADDRESS and they then impersonate someone ELSE to cancel a post using a DIFFERENT name and address, HOW are you going to know WHO did the cancel? You prove to everyone here that you're a total dickwad, just like the troll. > As to her false accusations against you (and her suggestion that people > file false abuse complaints with your ISP), you might want to file a > (legitimate) complaint with *her* ISP. Don't know if it would do any > good, but it might make her think twice before she pulls a stunt like > this again. *splorf* If anything, Cat is gonna get banned from here because she's the only one who did anything wrong. But then you've a history of killing other people's posts yourself so you probably don't see anything wrong with that huh? Gee.. guess I shoulda set up filters on Thunderbird sooner so as not to see your drivel again. From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 06:20:03 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Tue Jan 4 09:20:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: AAARRRRGGGHHHHH! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:cre8bf$4cb$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Shame that they're outsourcing the IT department though... yet more > > job erosion. The people who'll replace them will be lower paid and > > even less motivated to do a good job. > > Yeah, what's worse is we won't have any on site personnel! Stupid move to > save a few bucks. Hopefully it will be a disaster ;-) Yes indeed. Seems rather short sighted and if your organisation is a large one it could lead to some horrible problems. Plus, I'd have thought that what's on your computers is sensitive enough that they wouldn't want outsiders having unlimited access to it. From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 09:24:23 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Jan 4 09:25:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: Bob W. wrote: > > since a lot of it > > went down before you got here. > > > > Before *I* got here? > > Wait-- Wasn't it -- what? a year or more ago? > > Or do you mean before *that*? Yes. And let's leave it at that, m'kay? No need to dig up those old skeletons, things are bad enough as it is...... From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 09:25:53 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Jan 4 09:30:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: Heidi wrote: > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:crcl54$4k2$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > Have you seen anything from him today? I'm guessing he's feeling > > like a kid who's had all his toys taken away from him. > > > NNNOPE....not a peep....he's probably so frustrated he's having > himself a BIG wankfest...... :D So WTF did JT do? Tell me offline if you don't want to share the news with the peanut gallery. From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 09:25:50 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Tue Jan 4 09:30:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "SylvesterthekatSylvesterthekatSylvesterthekatSylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:cre8do$4f1> > If anything, Cat is gonna get banned from here because she's the only > one who did anything wrong. But then you've a history of killing other > people's posts yourself so you probably don't see anything wrong with > that huh? > > Gee.. guess I shoulda set up filters on Thunderbird sooner so as not to > see your drivel again. ROFLMAO.... all hail the King and Queen Of Narcissism, let's just deflect attention away from the fact that unauthorized canceling of posts is not allowed here, and the only one guilty of it is screaming the loudest that she was wronged. Give me a fucking break. From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 06:28:26 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Tue Jan 4 09:30:20 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: AAARRRRGGGHHHHH! References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" <47p772ok02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:crduqv$ud1$1@news.spamcop.net... > Hurray, a lot of crabby emails last night and Vodafone called me at 8 am > this morning and BT was out here digging up the sidewalk playing with > wires an hour later (well, they waited about another hour before it > stopped raining). Well that's service for ya! > > Ding, it all seems to be working now, I can even make phone calls > without all the awful noise. The service is through Vodafone, but I > assume that ultimately they have to depend on BT to make it work for > them. I did write a ranting letter yesterday to the business contact I > was dealing with and copied our IT purchasing agent about the months of > problems I have had. I wonder what will come of that now. Oh right, so they're just a reseller of BT lines. I suppose now they've fixed it all you'll get out of them is either an apology or maybe a credit on your next bill. From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 09:38:22 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Jan 4 09:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: PING JohnL References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > Can't you buy a case of small bottles? Yeah, did that last night, bought two cases of 20 oz bottles. That oughta last me about a week or so! One bad thing about all this "preparedness" stuff I've been doing (doing last minute minor house repairs and such also) -- I've burned thru my pain meds too fast because I keep aggravating my neck! I think I'm going to run out by Friday :-(( > > Good luck with this surgery. I must have been out of the loop for a > while and missed where you said you were having another op. > Maybe you were on your Xmas break? Actually, I think I was just considering it previously, I didn't actually make the decision until last week. > > And I need to write up a quasi-will for my Dad before I have my > > surgery just in case.......I want to make sure my disabled sister > > gets most of my estate (such as it is ;-) for her healthcare. > > Who would be your assumed heir if you died intestate? Your dad I > guess. So it's really just an instruction for him on what to do with > your money if the worst happens. But it won't.. I fear we're stuck > with you awhile yet LOL My Dad is the beneficiary of all on my monetary accounts (life insurance, 401(k), Roth IRA, investment account, bank account), I assume my house and belongings would revert to "my estate" and go to my closest heir or probate court or something. So yeah, I have very specific instructions for how much money goes where if something bad happens. Would be kind of be neat to see the best student-athlete science-majoring senior get a scholarship in my name from my old high school, but I hope it never happens, to be honest! ;-) From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 09:39:30 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Jan 4 09:40:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Good -- No GREAT NEWS!!!! References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > My 4+ y.o. grand daughter is running round the house singing 'The > Sister Finder is coming The Sister Finder' is coming' (FYI 'The > Sister Finder' is my grand daughter's NAME for the social worker from > DSS) That's just too cute ;-) Good luck! From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 09:40:45 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Jan 4 09:45:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Good -- No GREAT NEWS!!!! References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > After a number of roller coaster emotional rides DSS (department of > social services) just this second call and they are on the way to my > kid's home (son and daughter-in-law are now licensed foster-to-adopt > parents) with a 10 month old baby girl. We won't know if the child > will be available for legal adoption for several months perhaps a > year or more but this is GREAT news. > > My 4+ y.o. grand daughter is running round the house singing 'The > Sister Finder is coming The Sister Finder' is coming' (FYI 'The > Sister Finder' is my grand daughter's NAME for the social worker from > DSS) Uh, no canceling is fine, but is there some reason this post showed up 3 times, and within the original thread to boot? From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 09:42:51 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Jan 4 09:45:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Good -- No GREAT NEWS!!!! References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > > I have to be careful what I post (DSS privacy rules -- rule!) but the > kid is precious. Round face, big deep brown eyes (that don't miss > much), olive skin (when she gets older she's going to be a heart > breaker) Sounds just like my type! Gimme a ring in about 20 years, K? ;-) From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 09:48:09 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Jan 4 09:50:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In mass annihilation race, tsunami pulls ahead of Merck References: Message-ID: D.F. Manno wrote: > > > > Is it a COX-2 inhibitor? If so.......I'd quit taking it as of right > > now..... > > No. As I said, it's an NSAID (non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug). > Traditional NSAIDs like nabumetone (Relafen) inhibit both COX-1 and > COX-2 enzymes. Not familiar with that one, I stopped trying new NSAIDs years ago (one of the ones I tried ripped my gut apart). Since blocking COX-1 suppresses the formation of blood > clots (while blocking COX-2 alone promotes formation of clots), the > NSAIDs don't have the same cardiovascular effect. I thought I had read that blocking COX-2 can damage the heart, or rather prevent it from repairing itself? Might want to do some heavy reading on it if I were you, I could be wrong, but....... From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 09:56:30 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Jan 4 10:00:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: This may save your life! References: Message-ID: JerryMouse wrote: > > That Enron business has been blown out of all proportion. Enron's > accounting shenanigans principly bothered two groups: > > 1. The Enron employees who were greedily plowing all their > ponzi-scheme funny-money back into Enron stock, and > Wrong again, bozo brain. Enron's 401(k) 3% match was paid ONLY with stock, employees had no choice, and only about half of the total assets of the 401(k) plan were in Enron stock anyway. From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 10:30:09 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Tue Jan 4 10:35:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: PING JohnL References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:cre9ou$5g1$1@news.spamcop.net... > > My Dad is the beneficiary of all on my monetary accounts (life insurance, > 401(k), Roth IRA, investment account, bank account), I assume my house and > belongings would revert to "my estate" and go to my closest heir or probate > court or something. So yeah, I have very specific instructions for how much > money goes where if something bad happens. Would be kind of be neat to see > the best student-athlete science-majoring senior get a scholarship in my > name from my old high school, but I hope it never happens, to be honest! ;-) Isn't there a way to avoid probate by specifying your beneficiary? From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 10:43:50 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Jan 4 10:45:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: My post seem to be instantly disappearing References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > "Borgholio" > > | > | > My post seem to be instantly disappearing what's up? > | > | > | > | Worked fine for me...I saw all three. Congrats x 3, btw. > | > > | > Thanks I though I was losing my mind. > | > > | > | Well, you are...but that's not the problem this time. > > Yea of all the things I've lost I miss my mind the most ... A useless mind is a terrible thing to.......I mean a mind used is wasted....oh, nevermind...... From NoWay at nospam.com Tue Jan 4 10:45:04 2005 From: NoWay at nospam.com (Grog in Ohio) Date: Tue Jan 4 10:50:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Justices Scalia and Thomas... Message-ID: Okay... I kinda already knew these two were right wing nutcases, but to see it itemized as shown here was REALLY disturbing. Keep in mind that one of these two wing nuts will likely be Supreme Court Chief Justice for life. Even if you don't trust the leftist pinko commies at CAP, please click the associated links for the background. http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=274629 Grog From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 10:45:38 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Jan 4 10:50:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: My post seem to be instantly disappearing References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > "Heidi" > > | > My post seem to be instantly disappearing what's up? > | > > | There's a post in control.cancel, did you cancel it by mistake? > | I've seen all three of the originals. If you didn't cancel it, > | email JT. > > That cancel was mine as it was a blank response with nothing I added. > And that's different from your normal posts how? ;-) > FIWI I found out what was causing the problem. I was using > me@privacy.net as a response addy and had kill filed someone else > (not on this new group) using the same email address. Try adding nobody@spamcop.net to your KF and see how many friends you have left ;-) From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 10:46:27 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Jan 4 10:50:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: My post seem to be instantly disappearing References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "Frog Prince" wrote in message > news:crd0v7$c7d$1@news.spamcop.net... > > My post seem to be instantly disappearing what's up? > > I see it 3 times. Are you filtering your own posts? Wow, look at little Miss Sherlock! Figgered it out all on her ownsome! From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 10:47:05 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Jan 4 10:50:19 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Wow.. kudos to Sandra Bullock. References: Message-ID: Bob W. wrote: > > Have I mentioned that if I were inclined to be a stalker, she would be > way, way up near the top of my "Faves" list? > You'd have to wait in line behind the bushes ;-) From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 10:49:14 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Tue Jan 4 10:50:24 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: My post seem to be instantly disappearing References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:credoj$8ld$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Wow, look at little Miss Sherlock! Figgered it out all on her ownsome! > That's happened to me a couple of times and I can't figure out how, I still am wondering how Charles and his sneakemail addy ended up in my killfile. Speaking of which, where is our Charles? From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 10:51:40 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Jan 4 10:55:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: AAARRRRGGGHHHHH! References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > Yes indeed. Seems rather short sighted and if your organisation is a > large one it could lead to some horrible problems. I dunno, is 1000 people big? Probably 700 here at my campus. Plus, I'd have > thought that what's on your computers is sensitive enough that they > wouldn't want outsiders having unlimited access to it. That's a helluva great thing to think of! Thanks......I'll be asking about that. Like how do they plan on servicing the DoD programs we have......those IT guys need security clearances. They'll probably waive their hands and say "no disclosure contract" or something, like that's something you can trust. From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 10:52:39 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Jan 4 10:55:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: PING JohnL References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > > Isn't there a way to avoid probate by specifying your beneficiary? For a house? Not that I know of, I'd need a real will. From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 10:53:10 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Tue Jan 4 10:55:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: PING JohnL References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:cree47$8r0$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Isn't there a way to avoid probate by specifying your beneficiary? > > For a house? Not that I know of, I'd need a real will. > I guess that's what I was suggesting, a real will, that way probate doesn't get what's rightfully to be left to your family. From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 11:09:12 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Jan 4 11:10:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: PING JohnL References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:cree47$8r0$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > > Isn't there a way to avoid probate by specifying your beneficiary? > > > > For a house? Not that I know of, I'd need a real will. > > > I guess that's what I was suggesting, a real will, that way probate > doesn't get what's rightfully to be left to your family. I don't have enough for the feds to grab any of my money, if that's what you're talking about. The first $1 mil or so is exempt. But I'll tell my Dad to adjust some numbers if needed to make sure my sister gets what I want her to get, my other brothers and sisters don't need anywhere near as much as I was planning on giving them anyway. From johnl at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 16:38:08 2005 From: johnl at spamcop.net (JohnL) Date: Tue Jan 4 11:40:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: My post seem to be instantly disappearing References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in news:cre3ih$184$3@news.spamcop.net: > > "JohnL" > >| >> And it's also the second thing to go as you age. >| > >| > I'm assuming you also mean that you forget what the first was... >| > wait a minute, what were we talking about again?... :-) >| > >| >| Huh????? ;-) > > Ask your S.O. > > > Who???? ;-) From tmcgraw at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 08:50:34 2005 From: tmcgraw at spamcop.net (Tim McGraw) Date: Tue Jan 4 11:55:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] What, Me Worry? Message-ID: In a career that spanned more than 50 years, Kelly Freas illustrated the covers or the pages of books by writers including Isaac Asimov, Robert Heinlein, Arthur C. Clarke, A.E. Van Vogt, Poul Anderson and Frederik Pohl. Beginning in the 1950s he spent seven years as the main cover artist of Mad Magazine, helping to make famous Alfred E. Newman, the freckled, front-tooth-deprived purveyor of the phrase, "What? Me Worry?" http://www.the-leader.com/articles/2005/01/04/local_news/local03.txt Check out the official Freas site at http://www.kellyfreas.com/Home2a.htm ...is it only in SoCal where funeral service announcements note that "valet parking will be provided"? I did like the instruction for those who wish to send food to the Freas' house. From johnl at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 17:27:57 2005 From: johnl at spamcop.net (JohnL) Date: Tue Jan 4 12:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Cancels still happening? Message-ID: Seems there's still canceling going on? From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 12:43:59 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Tue Jan 4 12:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Cancels still happening? References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns95D46A763E052johnlspamcopnet@216.154.195.61... > Seems there's still canceling going on? LOL...he's trying really hard. From johnl at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 17:52:34 2005 From: johnl at spamcop.net (JohnL) Date: Tue Jan 4 12:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Cancels still happening? References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in news:crekrf$d1j$1@news.spamcop.net: > > "JohnL" wrote in message > news:Xns95D46A763E052johnlspamcopnet@216.154.195.61... >> Seems there's still canceling going on? > > LOL...he's trying really hard. > > > Seen a few of yours in there. From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 12:53:06 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Tue Jan 4 13:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Cancels still happening? References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns95D46EA2D7CCEjohnlspamcopnet@216.154.195.61... > > Seen a few of yours in there. Or so it appears.....bwahahahahaaaaaa.......he's a lousy forger, isn't he? :D From johnl at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 18:08:23 2005 From: johnl at spamcop.net (JohnL) Date: Tue Jan 4 13:10:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Cancels still happening? References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in news:crelad$d6e$1@news.spamcop.net: > Or so it appears.....bwahahahahaaaaaa.......he's a lousy forger, isn't > he? >:D > Yeah, considering the first on s/h/it did was from speedup.oxfordnetworks.net :) From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 13:07:29 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Tue Jan 4 13:10:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Cancels still happening? References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns95D471513273johnlspamcopnet@216.154.195.61... > > Yeah, considering the first on s/h/it did was from > speedup.oxfordnetworks.net :) All I can say is, you know......... YAWN....... From nobody at devnll.spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 14:15:37 2005 From: nobody at devnll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Tue Jan 4 14:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" <47p772ok02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:crduso$ud1$2@news.spamcop.net... > Heidi wrote: > > NNNOPE....not a peep....he's probably so frustrated he's having himself a > > BIG wankfest...... :D > > Gee, you make it sound so dirty, like it is a bad thing or something. When one does it as much as he does, it IS dirty. Poor little thing, he's probably going at it fast and furious now, he tried to cancel all my messages on this thread....awwwwwww, how sad....... From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 11:28:24 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Tue Jan 4 14:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Wow.. kudos to Sandra Bullock. References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:credpp$8li$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Bob W. wrote: > > > > Have I mentioned that if I were inclined to be a stalker, she would be > > way, way up near the top of my "Faves" list? > > > > You'd have to wait in line behind the bushes ;-) Not the Bushes I hope! LOL. I was rather surprised once to read something in a magazine describing her as 'girl next door' in her looks. I think she's lovely (but then I'm a woman so maybe my views don't count LOL) From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 11:28:59 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Tue Jan 4 14:30:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: My post seem to be instantly disappearing References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:credoj$8ld$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > "Frog Prince" wrote in message > > news:crd0v7$c7d$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > My post seem to be instantly disappearing what's up? > > > > I see it 3 times. Are you filtering your own posts? > > Wow, look at little Miss Sherlock! Figgered it out all on her ownsome! LOL, I speak from experience heheheheh From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 11:29:22 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Tue Jan 4 14:30:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: My post seem to be instantly disappearing References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:credv0$8n3$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "indigo" wrote in message news:credoj$8ld$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > Wow, look at little Miss Sherlock! Figgered it out all on her ownsome! > > > That's happened to me a couple of times and I can't figure out how, I still am > wondering how Charles and his sneakemail addy ended up in my killfile. Speaking of > which, where is our Charles? Hmm... busy with baby or else maybe he got a decent job. From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 11:31:55 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Tue Jan 4 14:35:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Cancels still happening? References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:crekrf$d1j$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "JohnL" wrote in message > news:Xns95D46A763E052johnlspamcopnet@216.154.195.61... > > Seems there's still canceling going on? > > LOL...he's trying really hard. Is this the height of patheticness or what?! From nobody at devnll.spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 14:52:23 2005 From: nobody at devnll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Tue Jan 4 14:55:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Cancels still happening? References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:creqv9$h0k$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Is this the height of patheticness or what?! Go look at .test.... From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 11:55:22 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Tue Jan 4 15:00:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Cancels still happening? References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:cres6t$hoi$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:creqv9$h0k$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > Is this the height of patheticness or what?! > > Go look at .test.... ROFL From nospam at bisusa.com Tue Jan 4 14:25:36 2005 From: nospam at bisusa.com (JerryMouse) Date: Tue Jan 4 15:30:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Justices Scalia and Thomas... References: Message-ID: Grog in Ohio wrote: > Okay... I kinda already knew these two were right wing nutcases, but > to see it itemized as shown here was REALLY disturbing. Keep in mind > that one of these two wing nuts will likely be Supreme Court Chief > Justice for life. Even if you don't trust the leftist pinko commies > at CAP, please click the associated links for the background. > > http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=274629 I analyzed the first case: "Scalia opposes efforts to desegregate schools..." and found the alarmist claims of the progressives unfounded. The case at hand, contrary to the claim, was about jurisdiction, not desegregation. The court of origin found that the school district had met the required desegregation tests in four of six categories and it was releasing the district from oversight of these four while continuing to maintain supervision of the remaining two (faculty assignment and resource allocation). The case was appealed and the Court of Appeals held that, no, the court could not relinquish control of part of a desegregation order. When the matter got to SCOTUS, Scalia took the position that a court COULD sever the six distinct parts of a desegregation order into those areas where the district was still out of compliance and surrender control back to the district where the constitutional problems had been corrected. Scalia's decision was entirely on procedural matters and would have been the same had the case involved tinned sardines. So, regarding the headline: "Scalia opposes efforts to desegregate schools," I find the headline is a flagrant lie: Scalia DID favor efforts to desegregate schools (but did not favor the courts meddling in areas that had no remaining problems). The second headline is equally misleading: "Thomas favors state-sponsored religion." No, Thomas said there is no constitutional prohibition, per se, against Virgina establishing a state-sponsored faith, not that he favored either the religion that Virginia might adopt or the concept. And so on. From nospam at bisusa.com Tue Jan 4 14:34:00 2005 From: nospam at bisusa.com (JerryMouse) Date: Tue Jan 4 15:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Wow.. kudos to Sandra Bullock. References: Message-ID: Mr K. Mean wrote: >> >> And see? there she goes just reinforcing my notion that she's an >> incredible person. > > Has she made that many huge movies? I mean, I guess I was surprised > mostly that she does have a million dollars that she can easily > donate. Maybe I have underestimated her then. ~42 movies. $17.5 million for her last, "Miss Congeniality 2." #29 on Forbes List of power personalities in revenue ($30 million in 2004) - right behind Dan Brown (Da Vinci Code) and above Simon & Garfunkle. From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 15:55:31 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Jan 4 16:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Cancels still happening? References: Message-ID: JohnL wrote: > "Heidi" wrote in > news:crelad$d6e$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > Or so it appears.....bwahahahahaaaaaa.......he's a lousy forger, > > isn't he? > >:D > > > > Yeah, considering the first on s/h/it did was from > speedup.oxfordnetworks.net :) Last bunch were from a trojaned comcast proxy. From nobody at devnll.spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 15:58:02 2005 From: nobody at devnll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Tue Jan 4 16:00:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Cancels still happening? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:crevs4$k6e$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Last bunch were from a trojaned comcast proxy. The bonehead threatened in the main group to make it look like the cancels were coming from my ISP....not the brightest crayon in the box, is he... ROFL. From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 16:00:32 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Jan 4 16:05:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Wow.. kudos to Sandra Bullock. References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:credpp$8li$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > > > Bob W. wrote: > > > > > > Have I mentioned that if I were inclined to be a stalker, she > > > would be way, way up near the top of my "Faves" list? > > > > > > > You'd have to wait in line behind the bushes ;-) > > Not the Bushes I hope! LOL. I was rather surprised once to read > something in a magazine describing her as 'girl next door' in her > looks. I think she's lovely (but then I'm a woman so maybe my views > don't count LOL) She does have that "girl next door" quality, but it's more than looks (she's perfect with barely any makeup), it's her personality too. From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 16:01:32 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Jan 4 16:05:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: My post seem to be instantly disappearing References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:credoj$8ld$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > > > Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > > "Frog Prince" wrote in message > > > news:crd0v7$c7d$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > My post seem to be instantly disappearing what's up? > > > > > > I see it 3 times. Are you filtering your own posts? > > > > Wow, look at little Miss Sherlock! Figgered it out all on her > > ownsome! > > LOL, I speak from experience heheheheh Oh, so you've actually done the same dumb thing yourself? ;-) From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 16:02:40 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Jan 4 16:05:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Cancels still happening? References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:crevs4$k6e$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > Last bunch were from a trojaned comcast proxy. > > The bonehead threatened in the main group to make it look like the > cancels were coming from my ISP....not the brightest crayon in the > box, is he... ROFL. Haven't made it over there yet today between work and pre-op physicals and bloodwork. What's the thread subject? From nobody at devnll.spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 16:08:36 2005 From: nobody at devnll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Tue Jan 4 16:10:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Cancels still happening? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:crf09g$kh6$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Haven't made it over there yet today between work and pre-op physicals and > bloodwork. What's the thread subject? It's "FYI"....my original post was canceled by "someone", but Mike Easter quoted it, I think. From nobody at devnll.spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 17:01:26 2005 From: nobody at devnll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Tue Jan 4 17:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] The laser mystery Message-ID: http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2005/01/04/Laser-Charges.050104.html From nobody at devnll.spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 17:02:32 2005 From: nobody at devnll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Tue Jan 4 17:05:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The laser mystery References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:crf3os$n28$1@news.spamcop.net... > http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2005/01/04/Laser-Charges.050104.html > Ooops, I know I didn't hit send... David Banach, 38, was arrested New Year's Eve after a police helicopter spotted him playing with the laser on his back porch near Teterboro Airport in New Jersey. He is expected to appear in court Tuesday afternoon. Banach's lawyer says her client is not a terrorist and has no ties to terrorist organizations. On Dec. 29, pilots preparing to land a chartered jet at Teterboro with 13 people on board reported seeing three green laser beams hit the windshield, blinding the pilot and co-pilot briefly. Two days later, a helicopter in the same area reported it was hit by a beam. Court documents indicate Banach originally claimed his daughter aimed a laser at the helicopter but later admitted he pointed the light beam at two aircraft, including the helicopter. Banach faces charges of interfering with the operator of a mass transportation vehicle and making false statements to the FBI. From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 17:15:20 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Jan 4 17:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Cancels still happening? References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:crf09g$kh6$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > Haven't made it over there yet today between work and pre-op > > physicals and bloodwork. What's the thread subject? > > It's "FYI"....my original post was canceled by "someone", but Mike > Easter quoted it, I think. How was it canceled today? I thought JT fixed that problem? From johnl at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 22:32:20 2005 From: johnl at spamcop.net (JohnL) Date: Tue Jan 4 17:35:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Cancels still happening? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:crf4ho$ng8$1@news.spamcop.net: > How was it canceled today? I thought JT fixed that problem? Was wondering the same. And it's even coming from the same servers as before. Oooooh, I know, JT scolded him. From tmcgraw at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 14:44:10 2005 From: tmcgraw at spamcop.net (Tim McGraw) Date: Tue Jan 4 17:45:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Cancels still happening? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: indigo wrote: > Spamvireslayer wrote: >>indigo wrote: >> >>>What's the thread subject? >> >>It's "FYI"....my original post was canceled by "someone", but Mike >>Easter quoted it, I think. > > How was it canceled today? I thought JT fixed that problem? The OP was on 1/1. From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Tue Jan 4 18:03:55 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Tue Jan 4 18:05:39 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In mass annihilation race, tsunami pulls ahead of Merck References: Message-ID: In article , "indigo" wrote: > D.F. Manno wrote: > > > > No. As I said, it's an NSAID (non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug). > > Traditional NSAIDs like nabumetone (Relafen) inhibit both COX-1 and > > COX-2 enzymes. > > Not familiar with that one, I stopped trying new NSAIDs years ago (one of > the ones I tried ripped my gut apart). I also take ranitidine (Zantac) to counter the potential stomach problems. > > Since blocking COX-1 suppresses the formation of blood > > clots (while blocking COX-2 alone promotes formation of clots), the > > NSAIDs don't have the same cardiovascular effect. > > I thought I had read that blocking COX-2 can damage the heart, or rather > prevent it from repairing itself? Might want to do some heavy reading on it > if I were you, I could be wrong, but....... I always research the drugs I'm prescribed. Doing so has saved me from bad interactions more than once. My understanding is that inhibiting COX-1 alone is good for the heart (makes it harder for blood clots to form), while inhibiting COX-2 alone is the opposite and the reason why Vioxx, Celebrex and Bextra are bad news. Inhibiting both is a wash as far as the heart is concerned. -- D.F. Manno dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream will never die." From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Tue Jan 4 18:07:32 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Tue Jan 4 18:10:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The laser mystery References: Message-ID: In article , "Spamvireslayer" wrote: > "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message > > > http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2005/01/04/Laser-Charges.050104.html > Court documents indicate Banach originally claimed his daughter aimed a laser > at the helicopter but later admitted he pointed the light beam at two aircraft, > including the helicopter. > > Banach faces charges of interfering with the operator of a mass transportation > vehicle and making false statements to the FBI. Idiot. Never lie to the cops. Either tell the truth or say nothing. Now he could be acquitted on the underlying charge and still get nailed for the false statements, like Martha Stewart. -- D.F. Manno dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream will never die." From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Tue Jan 4 18:18:32 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Tue Jan 4 18:20:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Orwell is alive and well and working at the White House Message-ID: His alias is press secretary Scott McClellan. During yesterday's White House press breifing, he was asked about reports that the administration was planning to imprison Guantanamo detainees for life without charges ever being filed against them. Quoting from the official transcript: Q Scott, could you explain what is humane about detaining somebody who's not been charged with anything for the rest of their life? What is humane about that? MR. McCLELLAN: I never said that that was the case. I said that we are at war on terrorism. And the war on terrorism continues. And as that war continues, we continue to go after those who seek to do harm to the American people. We continue to pick people up off the battlefield in the war on terrorism. THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE NO REGARD FOR THE RULE OF LAW. THEY HAVE NO REGARD FOR INNOCENT CIVILIANS. THEY HAVE NO REGARD FOR THE VALUES WE HOLD SO DEARLY IN THE UNITED STATES. WE ARE A NATION OF LAWS AND VALUES, AND WE ADHERE TO OUR LAWS AND VALUES. (emphasis added) -- D.F. Manno dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream will never die." From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Tue Jan 4 18:24:17 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Tue Jan 4 18:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: My post seem to be instantly disappearing References: Message-ID: In article , GregR wrote: > sk Dan Quayle - didn't he say "A mind is a terrible thing to lose"? :-) No. He said "What a terrible thing to have lost one's mind. Or not to have a mind at all. How true that is." -- D.F. Manno dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream will never die." From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Tue Jan 4 18:25:32 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Tue Jan 4 18:30:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: My post seem to be instantly disappearing References: Message-ID: In article , "indigo" wrote: > A useless mind is a terrible thing to.......I mean a mind used is > wasted....oh, nevermind...... A waste is a terrible thing to mind. --EPA motto -- D.F. Manno dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream will never die." From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 16:00:16 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Tue Jan 4 19:05:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Wow.. kudos to Sandra Bullock. References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" <47p772ok02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:crdufd$u3e$1@news.spamcop.net... > Has she made that many huge movies? I mean, I guess I was surprised > mostly that she does have a million dollars that she can easily donate. > Maybe I have underestimated her then. She won't be going hungry anytime soon. There are much bigger stars of course, people with even greater wealth I'm sure and I hope they're doing what they can. From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 16:09:28 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Tue Jan 4 19:10:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: My post seem to be instantly disappearing References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:crf07c$kg7$1@news.spamcop.net... > Oh, so you've actually done the same dumb thing yourself? ;-) that'd be a yes LOL From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 16:10:12 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Tue Jan 4 19:15:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The laser mystery References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:crf3qu$n3l$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message > news:crf3os$n28$1@news.spamcop.net... > > http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2005/01/04/Laser-Charges.050104.html > > > Ooops, I know I didn't hit send... > David Banach, 38, was arrested New Year's Eve after a police helicopter spotted him > playing with the laser on his back porch near Teterboro Airport in New Jersey. He is > expected to appear in court Tuesday afternoon. Banach's lawyer says her client is not > a terrorist and has no ties to terrorist organizations. What a bonehead. From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 19:38:21 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue Jan 4 19:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: My post seem to be instantly disappearing References: Message-ID: "JohnL" | >| >> And it's also the second thing to go as you age. | >| > | >| > I'm assuming you also mean that you forget what the first was... | >| > wait a minute, what were we talking about again?... :-) | >| > | >| | >| Huh????? ;-) | > | > Ask your S.O. | | Who???? ;-) Aaaa the advantages of dementia ... you wake up with a new woman every morning. From johnl at spamcop.net Wed Jan 5 00:50:55 2005 From: johnl at spamcop.net (JohnL) Date: Tue Jan 4 19:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: My post seem to be instantly disappearing References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in news:crfd4m$td4$1 @news.spamcop.net: > Aaaa the advantages of dementia ... you wake up with a new woman every > morning. Even better, be healthy enough to wake up more than once a night. :):):):) From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 20:04:45 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Tue Jan 4 20:10:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Cancels still happening? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:crf4ho$ng8$1@news.spamcop.net... > How was it canceled today? I thought JT fixed that problem? It was canceled yesterday, I'm not sure by whom, I didn't save the message ID. From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 20:23:51 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Tue Jan 4 20:30:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Orwell is alive and well and working at the White House References: Message-ID: "D.F. Manno" wrote in message news:dfm2a3l0t2-898BD4.18183204012005@news.cesmail.net... > MR. McCLELLAN: I never said that that was the case. I said that we are > at war on terrorism. And the war on terrorism continues. And as that war > continues, we continue to go after those who seek to do harm to the > American people. We continue to pick people up off the battlefield in > the war on terrorism. THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE NO REGARD FOR THE RULE > OF LAW. THEY HAVE NO REGARD FOR INNOCENT CIVILIANS. THEY HAVE NO REGARD > FOR THE VALUES WE HOLD SO DEARLY IN THE UNITED STATES. WE ARE A NATION > OF LAWS AND VALUES, AND WE ADHERE TO OUR LAWS AND VALUES. (emphasis > added) Umm yeah, he cleverly leaves out the part where we DON'T adhere to the Geneva Conventions, and make up our own laws to justify it. Guantanamo is not on American soil, so we don't have to adhere to US laws there either. Why isn't the rest of the world in an uproar about this? From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 20:24:41 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Tue Jan 4 20:30:18 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The laser mystery References: Message-ID: "D.F. Manno" wrote in message news:dfm2a3l0t2-245256.18073204012005@news.cesmail.net... > > Idiot. Never lie to the cops. Either tell the truth or say nothing. Now > he could be acquitted on the underlying charge and still get nailed for > the false statements, like Martha Stewart. Funny you should say that - I'll bet money it never happens. From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 20:27:13 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Tue Jan 4 20:30:23 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The laser mystery References: Message-ID: "Bob W." wrote in message news:responseguard-3DF77A.16523104012005@news.cesmail.net... > ...and the chopper was reportedly looking for *him*. > > What a moroon! LOL...I'm actually amazed those little things can make it to an airplane cockpit that far away and actually blind the pilots - bizarre. From borgholio at storymind.com Tue Jan 4 17:59:14 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Tue Jan 4 21:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The laser mystery In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Heidi wrote: > "Bob W." wrote in message > news:responseguard-3DF77A.16523104012005@news.cesmail.net... > >>...and the chopper was reportedly looking for *him*. >> >>What a moroon! > > > LOL...I'm actually amazed those little things can make it to an airplane > cockpit that far away and actually blind the pilots - bizarre. > > Who says it was a pen-laser? It could be a handheld industrial laser (the size of a large mag-lite). Those things shine a beam 1/8 of an inch wide for miles. From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 21:02:34 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue Jan 4 21:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Good -- No GREAT NEWS!!!! References: Message-ID: "Bob W." | > Reports this AM both kids played hard (a serious game of 'here you try this | > toy') until about an hour after 'normal' bed time and passed out on the play | > room 'fuzzy' rug. Today should be an interesting experience for all (my son | > has the day off). | | So cool... Must be exciting to have it happen so fast (even after all the wait). As I mentioned this child is mixed race (the concept of race is not unknown but of little concern to my first grand child). She told her mother 'did you know my sister is brown?'. Moms' reply 'God makes people all different colors. ... the excited rejoinder 'PINK and PURPLE TOO?' The excitement is tempered by the cold hard legal fact that we have at least 6 months and perhaps as many as 18 months before we will know if she will be a permanent part of our family. From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 21:03:34 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue Jan 4 21:05:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: My post seem to be instantly disappearing References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns95D4B591A6A64johnlspamcopnet@216.154.195.61... | "Frog Prince" wrote in news:crfd4m$td4$1 | @news.spamcop.net: | | > Aaaa the advantages of dementia ... you wake up with a new woman every | > morning. | | Even better, be healthy enough to wake up more than once a night. :):):):) Or healthy enough *not* to have to wake up more than once a night (IOW pee breaks) From baloo at ursine.dyndns.org Tue Jan 4 18:08:41 2005 From: baloo at ursine.dyndns.org (Paul Johnson) Date: Tue Jan 4 21:10:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: AAARRRRGGGHHHHH! References: Message-ID: <1104890921.682873@ursine.dyndns.org> J. Weaver Jr. wrote: > Indy, have you considered setting a startup password, and then turning > your machine off when you leave? -JW Why not run an OS with decent security and leave it on? -- Paul Johnson baloo@ursine.dyndns.org http://ursine.dyndns.org/~baloo/ From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 21:48:30 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Tue Jan 4 21:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: AAARRRRGGGHHHHH! References: <1104890921.682873@ursine.dyndns.org> Message-ID: "Paul Johnson" wrote in message news:1104890921.682873@ursine.dyndns.org... > > Why not run an OS with decent security and leave it on? Hey, Johnny One Note, why not learn a new song and sing something else? From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 21:54:51 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Tue Jan 4 22:00:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The laser mystery References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:crfhl1$s5$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Who says it was a pen-laser? It could be a handheld industrial laser (the > size of a large mag-lite). Those things shine a beam 1/8 of an inch wide > for miles. "Banach claimed to have bought the laser pointer in the past few weeks on BigHa.com, an Oregon-based Internet company. Longarzo said her client purchased the laser pointer because he is a "gadget guy" who works as a fiber-optic cable tester. So this one, ya think? http://www.bigha.com/sky/index.php "There have been several other incidents last year when laser beams were directed into plane cockpits. One was on September 22 in which a Delta Air Lines pilot reported damage to his retina from a laser beam during a landing in Salt Lake City, Utah. A report for the FAA in June 2004 examined the effect of laser beams on pilots. Of 34 pilots who were exposed to lasers during simulated flights, 67 percent experienced adverse visual effects at even the lowest level of laser exposure. Two high-exposure levels resulted in significantly greater performance difficulties, and nine aborted landings." So if this can burn a pilot's retina during a landing, why are they legal to won, one wonders, and what else can they do? From borgholio at storymind.com Tue Jan 4 19:04:24 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Tue Jan 4 22:05:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The laser mystery In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bob W. wrote: > In article , > Borgholio wrote: > > >>Heidi wrote: >> >>>"Bob W." wrote in message >>>news:responseguard-3DF77A.16523104012005@news.cesmail.net... >>> >>> >>>>...and the chopper was reportedly looking for *him*. >>>> >>>>What a moroon! >>> >>> >>>LOL...I'm actually amazed those little things can make it to an airplane >>>cockpit that far away and actually blind the pilots - bizarre. >>> >>> >> >>Who says it was a pen-laser? It could be a handheld industrial laser (the >>size of a large mag-lite). Those things shine a beam 1/8 of an inch wide >>for miles. > > > It was evidently *green*, and I think that tends to make it lean toward > the industrial side... > Heidi already showed me the part of the article that I must have skipped...but I've seen green pointers. From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 22:03:15 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Tue Jan 4 22:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The laser mystery References: Message-ID: "Bob W." wrote in message news:responseguard-6FBC04.18570004012005@news.cesmail.net... > It was evidently *green*, and I think that tends to make it lean toward > the industrial side... > Well, not really...but some common sense would help, and perhaps he should RTFM.... http://www.bigha.com/sky/safety.php "When used with caution, Jasper lasers are completely safe. Technically, Jasper is a Class IIIa laser, which means it does not have enough power to burn. The only caution regards eyesight. Jasper's beam is extremely bright and can easily disorient an unsuspecting bystander. Also, Jasper should never be shined into anyone's eyes. If you follow these simple rules, you'll have many safe and enjoyable hours with your Jasper laser. 1. Don't allow children to use Jasper without close adult supervision. 2. Don't shine Jasper into: passing cars, airplanes or other vehicles windows of houses around the eyes of any person or animal mirrors or other highly reflective surfaces — the beam might bounce into someone's area of vision any optical instrument that might focus Jasper's energy into someone's eyes " From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 22:04:11 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Tue Jan 4 22:10:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The laser mystery References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:crflf7$3fo$1@news.spamcop.net... > Heidi already showed me the part of the article that I must have > skipped...but I've seen green pointers. That might have been a different article than the first one I posted: From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 22:04:58 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Tue Jan 4 22:10:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The laser mystery References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:crflki$3m8$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Borgholio" wrote in message > news:crflf7$3fo$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Heidi already showed me the part of the article that I must have > > skipped...but I've seen green pointers. > > That might have been a different article than the first one I posted: (dammit!!!!!!!) http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/01/04/laser.beam.charges/ From tmcgraw at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 19:27:12 2005 From: tmcgraw at spamcop.net (Tim McGraw) Date: Tue Jan 4 22:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] The Center for Corporate Policy's Top Ten War Profiteers of 2004 Message-ID: http://www.corporatepolicy.org/topics/topten2004list.htm From bcs1 at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 23:05:22 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bill) Date: Tue Jan 4 23:05:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "David 1" wrote in message news:crb2jc$29g$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Hell, I don't even know who is who any more & what's more I dont' care ok > I lied I do care but with my limited knowledge there ain't a whole lot I > can do about it. for all I know it could be A (not the) troll that just > posted this or the message I'm replying to now so with that in mind if I > see something that I think I should reply to then Im going to & if that > breaks another written or unwritten rule then ask/tell me to leave the > group & trust me I will with the exception of the help NG just incase I > run into trouble but other then that that is all you'll hear from me. > > -- > > David 1 > bad addy > spamtrap@suescornerweb.com dun sweat it David, you'll get the hang of it soon enough, I understand the sentiment behind K's reply ( not the troll BTW LOL), but I also understand, and agree with your stance...sometimes, right, wrong, or indifferent, we feel we need to say something, and when that time comes we do "devil be dammed"... LOL Bill From bcs1 at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 23:07:05 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bill) Date: Tue Jan 4 23:05:18 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:crc004$k5i$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Bill" wrote in message > news:cra9dc$ii7$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Then we can go back to fighting about politics, and who wrote the > > dumbest >> news story this week, or something constructive like that again. > > LOL, damn straight! Have to get our priorities right, after all. > > LOL Hiya Skat Bill From bcs1 at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 23:15:24 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bill) Date: Tue Jan 4 23:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Bob W." wrote in message news:responseguard-6B888D.23155903012005@news.cesmail.net... > > I've been a Spamcop member for something like 5+ years... Don't know > when I started hanging out in .social. > eheh me too hell i forget when i even signed up...seems sooooo long agao LMAO > Jeeze... I can't even remember when I got here. Sad, ain't it? me either, i came, then went... then came again, then went, then came and stayed LOL I feel ya bro Bill I wonder if I should rephrase that though? oh well From bcs1 at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 23:20:47 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bill) Date: Tue Jan 4 23:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: php Help for the bald guy.... was re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Porpoise" wrote in message news:crb966$68a$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Bill" wrote in message > news:crag5i$n47$1@news.spamcop.net... >> >> yeah I tend to wonder though, cause the nexellent sitebuilder installed >> as default, and the only available language the germanf.php file, while >> looking through the file I saw no reference to view.php. I noticed that >> the context of that thread was the mambo picture gallery, but I'm save >> that link, and if I have time try to play with it tomorrow, if I can see >> where the file is called from. >> my path is >> home/httpd/mysite.net/httpdocs/sitebuilder/language/gremanf.php >> I did send an email request to plesk support about that, and the cold >> fusion add-on that didn't install, but shows on my invoice. >> >> Thanks for the fast reply >> at least it's a place to start. >> >> Bill >> > > > :>) > > I know what it can be like looking for something to do a specific job in > .php....... Sometimes the manual just doesn't seem to help. > nope the manual (what I've been able to find of one so far), hasn't helped a bit... seems to me like it's referring to a whole different program... I have about half the file translated.. the rest is the admin page stuff...that's killi'n me... I really wish I spoke German now, of course if I did..I wouldn't need to translate the file would I? LOL Bill From SCNews.5.myspamgobbler at spamgourmet.com Tue Jan 4 21:17:34 2005 From: SCNews.5.myspamgobbler at spamgourmet.com (Spam N Scams Reporter) Date: Wed Jan 5 00:20:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tum ti tum In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: indigo wrote: > JohnL wrote: > >>"Porpoise" wrote in >>news:cqrer0$ptf$1@news.spamcop.net: >> >> >>>You got it! At about 03:00 hrs. I finally figured out what the >>>problem was. Blasted windows indexing service running in the >>>background....... grrrrrrrr! >>> >>>:-| >> >>Does the indexing service make that big of a difference?? >>I just turned mine off, hopefully it'll help things here also. ;) >> > > > It can, yeah, especially if it introduces IRQ conflicts. When I first > started burning CD's on my old PC at home simply moving the mouse would > instantly create a coaster! > > IRQ conflicts really irq me. :) What's been happening with the 'new' computer? Did you get the bugs worked out? I have some things to discuss off group. Email me if you would. Brian From SCsoc.5.myspamgobbler at spamgourmet.com Tue Jan 4 21:39:04 2005 From: SCsoc.5.myspamgobbler at spamgourmet.com (Brian) Date: Wed Jan 5 00:40:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "David 1" wrote in message > news:crb2jc$29g$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Hell, I don't even know who is who any more & what's more I dont' care > >>ok I lied I do care but with my limited knowledge there ain't a whole >>lot I can do about it. for all I know it could be A (not the) troll that >>just posted this or the message I'm replying to now so with that in mind >>if I see something that I think I should reply to then Im going to & if >>that breaks another written or unwritten rule then ask/tell me to leave >>the group & trust me I will with the exception of the help NG just >>incase I run into trouble but other then that that is all you'll hear >>from me. > > > Mostly it's pretty obvious who the troll is because the stuff he says is > utterly obnoxious. If what he says is not obnoxious then you can be forgiven > for making the error of replying. But at least check out some of his > 'current name' other posts before replying, to see if it may be him and then > make your decision about whether you want to converse with such a dickwad. > > Maybe we need an early warning system for trolls. I wonder if SC would be willing to create a new ng .troll_alert? :) Ignoring trolls is such a good way to deal with them. It's not always easy. Many of us feel the need to respond to them for some reason or another. Maybe with the hopes of 'reforming' them. I know that I have a tendency to fit into this class. But, I've learned that trolls are likely to remain trolls. IGNORING THEM CUTS OFF THE REWARD FOR BEING A TROLL. This is not just about people with opposing views. There is a difference. Trolls have more of a desire to aggravate people or be disruptive than to put forth an idea, well thought or not. They may have different motivations as well. I have posted a number of IP addys in .geeks that this recent troll has used if this would help anyone id hir. I can also send anyone interested a excel file that I have put together of my investigation of this .... fill in the blank. Brian From nobody at nowhere.com.INVALID Tue Jan 4 21:47:49 2005 From: nobody at nowhere.com.INVALID (GregR) Date: Wed Jan 5 00:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: My post seem to be instantly disappearing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: D.F. Manno wrote: > No. He said "What a terrible thing to have lost one's mind. Or not to > have a mind at all. How true that is." Oh, that's different. Never mind. :-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> I voted for Kerry, it's not my problem. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." George W. Bush 8/5/04 From nobody at nowhere.com.INVALID Tue Jan 4 21:49:34 2005 From: nobody at nowhere.com.INVALID (GregR) Date: Wed Jan 5 00:50:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: My post seem to be instantly disappearing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > Ask your S.O. I wonder if he remembers where he left her... ;-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> I voted for Kerry, it's not my problem. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." George W. Bush 8/5/04 From nobody at nowhere.com.INVALID Tue Jan 4 21:50:44 2005 From: nobody at nowhere.com.INVALID (GregR) Date: Wed Jan 5 00:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: My post seem to be instantly disappearing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: JohnL wrote: > [GregR] I wonder if he remembers where he left her... ;-) > [JohnL] Who???? ;-) See? :-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> I voted for Kerry, it's not my problem. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." George W. Bush 8/5/04 From nobody at nowhere.com.INVALID Tue Jan 4 21:52:25 2005 From: nobody at nowhere.com.INVALID (GregR) Date: Wed Jan 5 00:55:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: My post seem to be instantly disappearing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > I'm here (.social) ain't I? What more proof do you require? I thought that was a sign of excellent breeding and good taste. :-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> I voted for Kerry, it's not my problem. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." George W. Bush 8/5/04 From nobody at nowhere.com.INVALID Tue Jan 4 21:54:00 2005 From: nobody at nowhere.com.INVALID (GregR) Date: Wed Jan 5 00:55:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: My post seem to be instantly disappearing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > I'm here (.social) ain't I? What more proof do you require? I always thought that was a sign of excellent breeding and good taste. :-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> I voted for Kerry, it's not my problem. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." George W. Bush 8/5/04 From nobody at nowhere.com.INVALID Tue Jan 4 21:59:41 2005 From: nobody at nowhere.com.INVALID (GregR) Date: Wed Jan 5 01:00:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Wow.. kudos to Sandra Bullock. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bob W. wrote: > She produces, too... And feature producers can make decent money. And since they're relatively "unknowns" outside the biz, they don't have to deal with the attendant hassles of paparazzi, stalkers, obsessed autograph hounds, and those generally unstable people who live their lives vicariously through the celebs. I could handle that - I'll take wealth over fame any day of the week. :-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> I voted for Kerry, it's not my problem. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." George W. Bush 8/5/04 From SCsoc.5.myspamgobbler at spamgourmet.com Tue Jan 4 21:59:49 2005 From: SCsoc.5.myspamgobbler at spamgourmet.com (Brian) Date: Wed Jan 5 01:00:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Good -- No GREAT NEWS!!!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bob W. wrote: > In article , > "Frog Prince" wrote: > > >>"Bob W." >> >> >>| > Reports this AM both kids played hard (a serious game of 'here you try >>this >>| > toy') until about an hour after 'normal' bed time and passed out on the >>play >>| > room 'fuzzy' rug. Today should be an interesting experience for all (my >>son >>| > has the day off). >>| >>| So cool... Must be exciting to have it happen so fast (even after all the >>wait). >> >>As I mentioned this child is mixed race (the concept of race is not unknown >>but of little concern to my first grand child). She told her mother 'did >>you know my sister is brown?'. Moms' reply 'God makes people all different >>colors. ... the excited rejoinder 'PINK and PURPLE TOO?' > > > Pink... when a white person is sunburned, mebbe? And purple? Maybe that > depends on diet... Or whether you're a grape-stomper. > Maybe she heard "One-eyed, one-horned, flying purple people eater"? >>The excitement is tempered by the cold hard legal fact that we have at least >>6 months and perhaps as many as 18 months before we will know if she will be >>a permanent part of our family. > > > Oy! > That time is nothing if you have the child with you. No, that's not correct. Having the child with you causes attachments that can be painful if it doesn't work the way you'd like. I'm thinking from my own experience of adopting a daughter from Korea years ago. It was a long, involved and somewhat expensive process. We didn't know for sure if were going to be blessed with the presence of another child or not until the papers were finalized and she was on a flight. What you and your family get to experience is very precious. My only suggestion is to remember that the important thing is what is best for this girl. Keeping that in mind will help mitigate the feeling of loss if she ends up somewhere else. For the moment, I'm thrilled for you, and her. She is fortunate to be able to experience what it's like to be loved. Something that seems to be sorely lacking in too many homes. And you get to experience the awakening to this. From nobody at nowhere.com.INVALID Tue Jan 4 22:03:39 2005 From: nobody at nowhere.com.INVALID (GregR) Date: Wed Jan 5 01:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bob W. wrote: > I could swear I was in the group then... Hmmm... Perhaps you were there in spirit - the group had a much more warm and fuzzy glow to it back then, and you would have fit right in. Of course, it also could have been the fact that we were located next door to a nuclear power plant as well. :-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> I voted for Kerry, it's not my problem. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." George W. Bush 8/5/04 From nobody at nowhere.com.INVALID Tue Jan 4 22:09:21 2005 From: nobody at nowhere.com.INVALID (GregR) Date: Wed Jan 5 01:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: indigo wrote: > Yes. And let's leave it at that, m'kay? No need to dig up those old > skeletons, things are bad enough as it is...... I've never figured out why Indi is always so quick to try to bury (and/or sweep under the rug) all the crap that Heidi's pulled here in the past - and there's certainly been a load of it. But he's certainly entitled to his opinions, and I won't fault him for voicing them whether I agree with him or not. I believe that I also offered to discuss this matter with Bob via e-mail (if he wanted to), and I believe that it's his call on whether he wants to pursue it, not anyone else's. -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> I voted for Kerry, it's not my problem. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." George W. Bush 8/5/04 From skiwi at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 22:18:55 2005 From: skiwi at spamcop.net (sk1w1) Date: Wed Jan 5 01:20:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Ping Skiwi (Sk1w1?)... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: GregR wrote: > Just checking to see if a motorcycle trip to SoCal was still on the > radar screen for you this month. > > We've warmed up nicely to the mid-70's lately (eat your heart out, > JohnL... ;-)), so come on down. :-) Hey Greg... sorry about the VERY long delay in replying - been a BUSY couple of weeks, what with the holidays and the a lot going on personally and professionally... Add to that the other people flaked on me, so Mexico alone was not really my cup of tea, so unfortunately no ride - dang! Classes (on top of work) start again tomorrow - so I guess spring break is the first real chance... I am pissed, as I am having withdrawal symptoms from riding, would have loved to see CA again, would love to have met you (and a few others) and of course would have loved to take you up on your generous offer re: afternoon, sorry, late evening TV filming! As to the weather, well... even here in Seattle we have no precipitation of any real consequence for a few weeks, indeed it is very cold and clear, nights the starts are like diamonds, the sky in the day is an amazing blue - and it is low 20s over night and maybe in the upper 30s to low 40s during the day - nothing like I know John L et. al. get up there / over there, but still cold enough for me! Thank goodness for the chainsaw I picked up, the wood I cut & split over the summer after I heard a few friends were clearing a few acres for their new house... some primeval about an open fire, as well as free heat! Anyway, talk to you again soon... give me a yell back channel if you want to make a telephone call (remember those?) about New Zealand, etc - and I can lend you that book for as long as you want it... Aside - from quick scan of the recent posts in .social there is some nasty BS floating around that may be best to avoid - trolls aside, IMHO it is worse between regulars who may not have been 'close' in the past but at least weren't outright bitchy / bastards! To use bad 70s, Huggy Bear phrases - "Everyone chill!" Greg C. aka 'skiwi' aka 'sk1w1' From nobody at nowhere.com.INVALID Tue Jan 4 22:26:04 2005 From: nobody at nowhere.com.INVALID (GregR) Date: Wed Jan 5 01:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Brian wrote: > IGNORING THEM CUTS OFF THE REWARD FOR BEING A TROLL. Agreed, but I can think of at least one reasonable exception. Anyone who followed the NANAE group a couple of years ago remembers the XR2701/Y6g11 troll who would pretend to be a spokesman for SPEWS (or any other given anti-spam organization on a given day). His typical response to a hapless admin who wandered into the group trying to get an IP released from a blocklist was usually something like "Denied" or "Rot in SPEWS". The collective wisdom (though I hesitate to use that phrase and "NANAE" in the same sentence...) was to just ignore the troll, but my take was how is somebody who's never even seen the group before supposed to separate the noise from the helpful advice? I started posting boilerplate "moron alerts" (only one per thread), but a few of the shall we say "less-than-rational" people then accused *me* of spamming the group (even posting running BI counts on them). I think that was the point where I just shook my head and had a good laugh at them - and left them all to their collective loonie bin. Some of them really deserve each other. :-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> I voted for Kerry, it's not my problem. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." George W. Bush 8/5/04 From skiwi at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 22:41:55 2005 From: skiwi at spamcop.net (sk1w1) Date: Wed Jan 5 01:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Ping GregR - seeking some advice :-) Message-ID: <41DB8C33.6070506@spamcop.net> Hey GregR, Sorry about my delay in replying to your earlier ping for me, have been off-line - but see reply... Wanted your advice for a young (22yr old - so young to me!) friend of mine... She is a student at the University of Washington here in WA, someone I met through scuba diving (I am a divemaster locally) - and my wife and I have become friends with her, excellent person.... anyway... She is an ex-swim jock at the UW who is now a student of Chinese (Mandarin) at the UW, has spent months in China in immersion programs and indeed leaves again on the 16th of January for another 6 month immersion programme (organised through Oregon State...) - so a real aptitude for the language! From native Mandarin speakers I know (two!) who are impartial on such matters, they say she has very good to excellent vocab, grammar, accent, cultural awareness in her speech, etc... She was considering what she was going to do with her life after her degree is finished (another 9 months or so) and so I suggested that she would have a wonderful and fulfilling experience as a **translator for the 2008 Olympics** (which is in China of course), maybe as part of the NBC crew, maybe even as specific as swimming team support - not an on camera role of course, but a support role... Nobody I know in meatspace has any idea of how 'your' industry works - we are guessing that her turning up at NBC Headquarters and saying to the lobby receptionist that she is a 'walk in' for Mr Zucker won't really work that well! :-) Can I bother you for your advice as how she could maybe look at getting some 'face time' (sic? bad clich?!(?)) with someone so she can show her skills, etc? Note that I am NOT asking for any names, contacts, etc - more advice as to what approach might be to the most effective... Thanks in advance! Return email address is valid if that is helpful... Regards, GREG C. aka 'skiwi' From skiwi at spamcop.net Tue Jan 4 22:42:18 2005 From: skiwi at spamcop.net (sk1w1) Date: Wed Jan 5 01:45:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Ping GregR - seeking some advice :-) Message-ID: <41DB8C4A.1050100@spamcop.net> Hey GregR, Sorry about my delay in replying to your earlier ping for me, have been off-line - but see reply... Wanted your advice for a young (22yr old - so young to me!) friend of mine... She is a student at the University of Washington here in WA, someone I met through scuba diving (I am a divemaster locally) - and my wife and I have become friends with her, excellent person.... anyway... She is an ex-swim jock at the UW who is now a student of Chinese (Mandarin) at the UW, has spent months in China in immersion programs and indeed leaves again on the 16th of January for another 6 month immersion programme (organised through Oregon State...) - so a real aptitude for the language! From native Mandarin speakers I know (two!) who are impartial on such matters, they say she has very good to excellent vocab, grammar, accent, cultural awareness in her speech, etc... She was considering what she was going to do with her life after her degree is finished (another 9 months or so) and so I suggested that she would have a wonderful and fulfilling experience as a **translator for the 2008 Olympics** (which is in China of course), maybe as part of the NBC crew, maybe even as specific as swimming team support - not an on camera role of course, but a support role... Nobody I know in meatspace has any idea of how 'your' industry works - we are guessing that her turning up at NBC Headquarters and saying to the lobby receptionist that she is a 'walk in' for Mr Zucker won't really work that well! :-) Can I bother you for your advice as how she could maybe look at getting some 'face time' (sic? bad clich?!(?)) with someone so she can show her skills, etc? Note that I am NOT asking for any names, contacts, etc - more advice as to what approach might be to the most effective... Thanks in advance! Return email address is valid if that is helpful... Regards, GREG C. aka 'skiwi' From SCNews.5.myspamgobbler at spamgourmet.com Tue Jan 4 23:26:27 2005 From: SCNews.5.myspamgobbler at spamgourmet.com (Spam N Scams Reporter) Date: Wed Jan 5 02:30:18 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Cancels still happening? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Heidi wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:crf4ho$ng8$1@news.spamcop.net... > > >>How was it canceled today? I thought JT fixed that problem? > > > It was canceled yesterday, I'm not sure by whom, I didn't save the message > ID. > > Do you save your messages in the sent folder? From nobody at nowhere.com.INVALID Tue Jan 4 23:26:27 2005 From: nobody at nowhere.com.INVALID (GregR) Date: Wed Jan 5 02:30:24 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Ping GregR - seeking some advice :-) In-Reply-To: <41DB8C33.6070506@spamcop.net> References: <41DB8C33.6070506@spamcop.net> Message-ID: sk1w1 wrote: > Sorry about my delay in replying to your earlier ping for me, have been > off-line - but see reply... No problem - and your timing couldn't be better, because I've been knee-deep in R/L stuff lately (including dealing with a death in the family) so I haven't been on here much myself until lately. Sometimes one's real life interferes with his/her online one... ;-) > She is a student at the University of Washington here in WA, someone I > met through scuba diving (I am a divemaster locally) - and my wife and I > have become friends with her, excellent person.... anyway... You've been holding out on me - we should talk diving as well as motorcycling sometime... :-) > She is an ex-swim jock at the UW who is now a student of Chinese > (Mandarin) at the UW, has spent months in China in immersion programs > and indeed leaves again on the 16th of January for another 6 month > immersion programme (organised through Oregon State...) - so a real > aptitude for the language! From native Mandarin speakers I know (two!) > who are impartial on such matters, they say she has very good to > excellent vocab, grammar, accent, cultural awareness in her speech, etc... > > She was considering what she was going to do with her life after her > degree is finished (another 9 months or so) and so I suggested that she > would have a wonderful and fulfilling experience as a **translator for > the 2008 Olympics** (which is in China of course), maybe as part of the > NBC crew, maybe even as specific as swimming team support - not an on > camera role of course, but a support role... And once again, your timing couldn't be better on several counts. 1) I put in a bid for the Athens Olympics, but several of us didn't push it too hard since we weren't convinced that the Greeks were going to be able to provide decent security for the crew (unfounded, it turned out - everyone who went reported that they had no worries). (I was over there during my US Navy stint when terrorists decided it would be a fun thing to blow up a concourse at the Athens airport while a group of us were playing tennis at the adjacent USAF base - not my idea of a good time...). But several people in my work area did go, and I think between all of them we could manage to put her in contact with the right people - and it isn't too soon to start talking to them, especially someone coming from the "outside". I'll be glad to work my list of Olympic contacts as well (assuming they're still on the payroll - some of them are "seasonal" in that they only come on board a year or so before an event). Most of the people at that level are usually really helpful in tracking down the right person(s) your friend would need to talk to. My only caveat would be that I work in technical, and the tech managers for my area might not know the right people for her area. But I don't give up easily. 2) As luck would have it, I'm working that certain late-night show all this week, and one of the persons I'll be doing post-show promos with just happens to be Chinese (Taiwanese). And she has mentioned lately that she eventually wanted to move on to something that would utilize her bilingual skills (don't know if she mentioned the Olympics as a possibility or not). At any rate, I'll send myself a note to ask her (and hopefully I'll remember to read it... ;-)). > Nobody I know in meatspace has any idea of how 'your' industry works - Don't feel bad, most of us "inside" the industry don't have a clue either... ;-) > we are guessing that her turning up at NBC Headquarters and saying to > the lobby receptionist that she is a 'walk in' for Mr Zucker won't > really work that well! :-) Probably not... ;-) Though she might mention that she used to work with him when he was in Burbank, and maybe he'd feign remembering her. But that's a bit of a long shot - and getting past the post 9/11 security would be the bigger challenge. I overheard someone in the audience line for another show the other day remark that "this must be what it's like to visit someone in prison". I think she was on to something... ;-) > Can I bother you for your advice as how she could maybe look at getting > some 'face time' (sic? bad clich?!(?)) with someone so she can show her > skills, etc? No bother at all - when I first visited my current job locale back in the '80's, I was really impressed by what I call the "family" atmosphere of the place, and lots of people were more than happy to give me names, phone numbers, advice, wish me good luck in my job search, etc. And despite all the downsizing and bean-counter bottom-line focus these days, there's still a lot of that spirit around, so I'll be glad to continue the tradition. Call it "good karma", or whatever. :-) > Note that I am NOT asking for any names, contacts, etc - > more advice as to what approach might be to the most effective... Well, without names, contacts, etc. I don't know of any other way to pursue this. ;-) Don't sweat it - for big events, the hiring people are used to getting deluged with resumes, e-mails, phone calls, bribes, etc. > Thanks in advance! Your welcome in advance - you want fries with that?... ;-) > Return email address is valid if that is helpful... Sounds like a plan, hopefully I'll have some info for you by the end of the week at the latest. Your luck seems to be running strong this week - go out and buy that Lotto ticket. :-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> I voted for Kerry, it's not my problem. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." George W. Bush 8/5/04 From nobody at nowhere.com.INVALID Tue Jan 4 23:38:11 2005 From: nobody at nowhere.com.INVALID (GregR) Date: Wed Jan 5 02:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Ping GregR - seeking some advice :-) In-Reply-To: <41DB8C4A.1050100@spamcop.net> References: <41DB8C4A.1050100@spamcop.net> Message-ID: sk1w1 wrote: > Hey GregR, > > Sorry about my delay in replying to your earlier ping for me, have been > off-line - but see reply... Awright, who left the echo machine turned on?... (turned on?)... (turned on?)... (turned on?)... (turned on?)... (turned on?)... (((((((( ? )))))))) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> I voted for Kerry, it's not my problem. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." George W. Bush 8/5/04 From skiwi at spamcop.net Wed Jan 5 01:23:44 2005 From: skiwi at spamcop.net (sk1w1) Date: Wed Jan 5 04:25:16 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Ping GregR - seeking some advice :-) In-Reply-To: References: <41DB8C4A.1050100@spamcop.net> Message-ID: GregR wrote: > sk1w1 wrote: > >> Hey GregR, >> >> Sorry about my delay in replying to your earlier ping for me, have >> been off-line - but see reply... > > > Awright, who left the echo machine turned on?... (turned on?)... (turned > on?)... (turned on?)... (turned on?)... (turned on?)... > > (((((((( ? )))))))) a ping reply and a fresh ping - does that count as an echo? :-) bedtime, but tomorrow I will get that Lotto ticket *AND* reply to your other generous post - so as to give it the attention it deserves... From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jan 5 06:04:37 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Wed Jan 5 06:05:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Orwell is alive and well and working at the White House References: Message-ID: > THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE NO REGARD FOR THE RULE > OF LAW. THEY HAVE NO REGARD FOR INNOCENT CIVILIANS. THEY HAVE NO REGARD > FOR THE VALUES WE HOLD SO DEARLY IN THE UNITED STATES. WE ARE A NATION > OF LAWS AND VALUES, AND WE ADHERE TO OUR LAWS AND VALUES. LOL doesn't seem appropriate here, but you are correct! The only reason 1984 is not banned is because it is too subtle for some people. Miss Betsy From bcs1 at spamcop.net Wed Jan 5 06:47:44 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bill) Date: Wed Jan 5 06:45:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: AAARRRRGGGHHHHH! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:crbru8$hjc$1@news.spamcop.net... > My blood pressure is at an all time high thanks to our fucknut IT group! > > Must.....resist....urge....to.....kill.......FUCK!FUCK!FUCK!FUCK!FUCK!FUCK!F > UCK!FUCK!FUCK! > > it's ok man.... you can do it sir...just remain calm, put the knife down, and think "happy thoughts", help is on the way sir. (pause) Sir?....SIR are you still there? (pause) Sir?......... (long pause) "dammit, lost another one to Dietech.... (click) ./dial toneeeeeeeeeeee/ Bill BTW I feel your pain Bro........ From bcs1 at spamcop.net Wed Jan 5 06:53:09 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bill) Date: Wed Jan 5 06:55:23 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" <47p772ok02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:cres3j$hj8$2@news.spamcop.net... > Bill wrote: >> >> well normally I would have stay'd completely out of it, but like I said >> even though I don't always see eye to eye with someone, I doubt I would >> ever speak of them in that fashion, and OFC everyone knows I like >> Heidi....so I just couldn't let "that" one sit. >> >> >> Bill >> >> BTW Hi K > > Was that like a shout out to me then? yeah LOL lil bit of the west side slipping out in me Bill:/paging system on/ " yeah I'd like to send a shout out to Mr. K... `Sup dawg?" /pager off/ eheh From devnull at spamcop.net Wed Jan 5 08:18:53 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Wed Jan 5 08:25:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: In case anyone's wondering..... References: Message-ID: "Brian" wrote in message news:crfuhq$9sj$1@news.spamcop.net... > I have posted a number of IP addys in .geeks that this recent troll has > used if this would help anyone id hir. I can also send anyone interested > a excel file that I have put together of my investigation of this .... > fill in the blank. I think we need to just stop talking about him altogether, he's dealt with and he's not going to be seen if people pay attention to who they're responding to, no need to give him a reason to keep trying to disrupt things. From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jan 5 08:42:55 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: