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Frog Prince me at privacy.net
Sat May 1 06:41:32 EDT 2004


| > In return for support in Iraq the Chinese were given preferential
| > treatment on imports of woven products.  The only stipulation was that
| > the twine/string/tread be from US manufactures.  Chinese government
| > sore that was the deal but when it developed that there was
| > insufficient production much less export of US made yarn to support
| > the amounts imported it developed that the Chinese government was faking
| > the certification.
|
| So you're saying the Chinese were being duped by the American
| government. How's that for "business culture"?

How did you read that into my comments? Leaving out the political pay offs,
the trade agreement was, basically, the Chinese got favorable treatment on
finished woven goods with the clear commitment that the woven goods would be
made with American produced yarn. The export/import papers carried
certification by the Chinese government attesting to the source of the yarn
used in the woven goods.  The deal fell apart when it became obvious that
the physical mass of the amount imported exceeded the total mass of yarn
produced in the US.

The Bush Admin took corrective action only AFTER Sen. Dole (R-NC) pointed
out that US produced yarn had trace elements imbedded in the dyes and
demonstrated, publicly, that the imported woven goods did not contain the
trace elements.

The point is that the Chinese do what is best for the Chinese and use
situation ethics to gain the advantage.  In my experience they are by far
the most egregious in this business practice.

Might note that the process is backfiring as their ecological practices are
now costing them billions.  Screw the environment for the short term gain.
(Much like the Bush admin is doing).

I'm not taking, so much, about the Chinese culture but of China, Inc. which
is the face put forward in trade and on the internet.  Part is pure greed
and part is as you say a product of commercial racism. (screw the foreign
devils)

One truism of any trade deal is you get what you inspect not what you
expect.  I've inspected enough deals with the Chinese that I'm very cautious
in my dealings and look beyond what's in any agreement to protect my
interest.  The sad part is that in business the Chinese cannot be trusted
and the Chinese government seems to have more interest in aiding and non in
addressing the abuse.

That said it appears that the 40 Thieves are back in Baghdad only this time
they are in the guise of American contractors.




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