From ric.gates at bigsleep.org  Fri Apr  1 00:11:08 2005
From: ric.gates at bigsleep.org (Blammo)
Date: Thu Mar 31 19:15:05 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] 
	Re: XP registry fix for large number of files/directories
References: <d2i0e0$ql4$1@news.spamcop.net>
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On 31 Mar 2005 Joe Gill entered spamcop.geeks and left 
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> When I open most XP directories, the files are no longer sorted....
> 
> IIRC, there is a registry 'tweak' that increases a 'buffer' that XP uses.
> Increasing the buffer, then allow XP to sort the directory again.
> 
> I know I can manually sort each time, but that is a pain...
> 
> 

It has nothing to do with a "buffer", the list is read and the files are 
sorted. If any info on the directory is stored, it's probably done the 
idiotic MS why using a "desktop.inf" file.

You can set your folder options and have all folders use those settings, 
otherwise you have to set each folder seperately. You can have one or the 
other, not both.

Of course you can sort by name, filetype, etc. The files are always sorted, 
I've never seen any way to view them unsorted, but you need to set the 
folder up the way you want and apply it to all folders.


-- 
| Ric
|
From devnull at spamcop.net  Sat Apr  2 09:53:23 2005
From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince)
Date: Sat Apr  2 10:00:04 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Question on weg site process
Message-ID: <d2mbr7$1ng$1@news.spamcop.net>

We have a new, small but growing client for web site/graphics that
needs/wants to have a few things accomplished automatically if it's
practical

First they are a small but up scale photo studio and would like to load
studio samples from their office computer (DSL connection) automatically.
Staff is great on photo work but have more productive fish to fry than to
lean the tricks of the internet.  (KISS principal applies  -- if it's
simple/easy/fool proof they'll do it otherwise ...)

These would be seasonal samples, changed on average once a quarter and open
to public view.

Second they want to load preview shots to the site for each individual
client with a  pass word for the client family to access.  These will be up
for 2 to 6 weeks and the client's extended family will be able to select
prints size and quanties from this page.

Right not the only option is for me to collect what is to up loaded and do
the deed for them.  This is ok for the seasonal uploads as I can get them
far enough in advance.  The client up loads are a logistical nightmare due
to work schedules, etc.

The last requirement is to block down loads/printing, if that be practical,
otherwise the samples will have to be low resolution which may have some
effect on sales.

Web site is prepared in Dream MX

Any help or direction to where I can find what I need (assuming it's
available).

TIA

FP
brother_rabbit @ hotmail.com (remove spaces)

FWIW I'm fighting a kidney stone (some day this too will pass <g>) and will
be checking the group sporadically so if there are questions understand the
delay in responding


From nttp.sc.s.g at bigsleep.org  Sat Apr  2 16:59:47 2005
From: nttp.sc.s.g at bigsleep.org (Blammo)
Date: Sat Apr  2 12:00:04 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Question on weg site process
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On 02 Apr 2005 Frog Prince entered spamcop.geeks and left
news:d2mbr7$1ng$1@news.spamcop.net: 

> 
> First they are a small but up scale photo studio and would like to
> load studio samples from their office computer (DSL connection)
> automatically. Staff is great on photo work but have more productive
> fish to fry than to lean the tricks of the internet.  (KISS principal
> applies  -- if it's simple/easy/fool proof they'll do it otherwise
> ...) 
> 

I know what you mean.
Well, too many ifs, if you don't want to die early from an ulser, don't 
even try to automate this. Make them have to do something to get them up 
there, a script or batch file that just FTP uploads everything in a 
directory.

> Second they want to load preview shots to the site for each individual
> client with a  pass word for the client family to access.  These will
> be up for 2 to 6 weeks and the client's extended family will be able
> to select prints size and quanties from this page.
> 

That's no problem, depending on the OS the server is running, easy. 
Here we got the upload thing again, well someone's going to have to learn 
how to double-click an icon, I'm afraid.
Still, all this info can be uploaded at once and the server can "figure it 
out".

> 
> The last requirement is to block down loads/printing, if that be
> practical, otherwise the samples will have to be low resolution which
> may have some effect on sales.
> 

"Hey, here's a photo, Oh sorry, you can't have that, give it back".
Hey, don't upload anything you don't want to give out, you know if you 
give out your eMail you just might get some spam. I don't see what the 
problem is with just giving out previews, if you want people to know what 
the full size version looks like, just have some free samples that aren't 
worth anything. Any method that attempts to "prevent image theft" is just 
going to make it harder on some users to view them. What you really want is 
to prevent /other/ sites from linking to them, and that can be done.

> 
> Any help or direction to where I can find what I need (assuming it's
> available).
> 

I could give some ideas if you were running FreeBSD/ Apache.

-- 
| Ric
From devnull at spamcop.net  Sat Apr  2 18:52:05 2005
From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince)
Date: Sat Apr  2 19:00:05 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Question on weg site process
References: <d2mbr7$1ng$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<Xns962C5B90E851Dblammo@216.154.195.61>
Message-ID: <d2nbeo$j2q$1@news.spamcop.net>


"Blammo"
| >
| > First they are a small but up scale photo studio and would like to
| > load studio samples from their office computer (DSL connection)
| > automatically. Staff is great on photo work but have more productive
| > fish to fry than to lean the tricks of the internet.  (KISS principal
| > applies  -- if it's simple/easy/fool proof they'll do it otherwise
| > ...)
| >
|
| I know what you mean.
| Well, too many ifs, if you don't want to die early from an ulcer, don't
| even try to automate this. Make them have to do something to get them up
| there, a script or batch file that just FTP uploads everything in a
| directory.

I've not done any formal coding since Fortan so where might I find a useful
script/batch file that would not cause more problems than it would solve.
Remember these are Right brained types and if the end result doesn't look
good and just like they want it to look ... I'm in trouble.

| > Second they want to load preview shots to the site for each individual
| > client with a  pass word for the client family to access.  These will
| > be up for 2 to 6 weeks and the client's extended family will be able
| > to select prints size and quanties from this page.
| >
|
| That's no problem, depending on the OS the server is running, easy.
| Here we got the upload thing again, well someone's going to have to learn
| how to double-click an icon, I'm afraid.
| Still, all this info can be uploaded at once and the server can "figure it
| out".
|
| >
| > The last requirement is to block down loads/printing, if that be
| > practical, otherwise the samples will have to be low resolution which
| > may have some effect on sales.
| >
<snip>
| >
|
| I could give some ideas if you were running FreeBSD/ Apache.

Honestly don't know what the host is running.  (I'm in a steep learning
curve here and have more projects to 'come up to speed' that I have better
sense)

I did find this <http://flyspeck.net/> and would appreciate a quick review
and opinion if it would do the job.

BTW the doc gave me some new pain meds, only caution I'm not to drive
anything more complicated than the TV remote.

FP


From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net  Sun Apr  3 18:30:02 2005
From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz)
Date: Sun Apr  3 17:35:14 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] 
	SHEESH!  Is there anyone who doesn't outsource Tech Support?
Message-ID: <d2pne1$p96$1@news.spamcop.net>

Or actually, sales......My hard drive is making scraping noises again,
second one to go bad in five years. Gateway says I can buy a new one for
$65, but there is no home tech to install it, and when I asked if there were
instructions for installation that came with it, she gave me a link telling
how to install Windows 2k!  After asking several times how this HD was going
to get installed and was I expected to know how to do it, she say once I
plug it in I can reinstall my install disks.  Then she tells me once I get
the HD I can log on and they will guide me through the installation.
HELLLOOOOOOO, won't my hard drive be disconnected at the time?  I asked what
country she was in, she said Phillipines....considering she could not answer
the question 'how will this hard drive get installed', that doesn't surprise
me.

So what do I do? Is installing a hard drive difficult for the non-nerd?
Alright, I'm semi-nerdy, but I've never done much more than install software
and memory.


From nttp.sc.s.g at bigsleep.org  Sun Apr  3 23:45:25 2005
From: nttp.sc.s.g at bigsleep.org (Blammo)
Date: Sun Apr  3 18:50:04 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Question on weg site process
References: <d2mbr7$1ng$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<Xns962C5B90E851Dblammo@216.154.195.61> <d2nbeo$j2q$1@news.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <Xns962DA05462270blammo@216.154.195.61>

On 02 Apr 2005 Frog Prince entered spamcop.geeks and left
news:d2nbeo$j2q$1@news.spamcop.net: 

> 
> I've not done any formal coding since Fortan so where might I find a
> useful script/batch file that would not cause more problems than it
> would solve. Remember these are Right brained types and if the end
> result doesn't look good and just like they want it to look ... I'm in
> trouble. 
> 

Well rather than make a script to upload, there is SendToFtp, which I've 
used just for this purpose. If they know how to use the right-click menu in 
Windows Explorer, then you're in business.
A review - http://www.mrzone.com/freeware/sendtoftp.html
However you need to be able to set up FTP usernames and passwords on the 
server. If you can't do that, perhaps they already have FTP access (if it's 
their site, and only their site, or they already have access to their 
htdocs), otherwise you'll still have to upload the images or create a web 
form for that.

> 
> Honestly don't know what the host is running.  (I'm in a steep
> learning curve here and have more projects to 'come up to speed' that
> I have better sense)
> 

Well I can figure that out if I had a URL.

> I did find this <http://flyspeck.net/> and would appreciate a quick
> review and opinion if it would do the job.
> 

Again, you'll need to install something on the server. Looks like it 
requires PHP, but the site gives little info, maybe it's there, but it's 
not obvious.
Personally I've considered using Mozile, actually I have installed the 
server side version and got it working, but Mozile is more interested in  
the Mozile client side. I prefer this method because it pretty much 
requires Firefox or Mozilla (it actually only requires support of the CSS 
user-modify, which IE doesn't support). The client side version would 
require a Mozilla browser and the Mozile extension. I would prefer to 
require someone to use a Mozilla browser rather than a MS browser. But 
there are many contentEditable page editors out there, several are free I'm 
sure. But I really don't think they will upload new images for you, you 
kinda need that function. I think they use content already on the server, 
but I don't know what options they may have.
But here you have a learning curve again, for example Mozile is pretty easy 
to use, especially if you have ever created a web page, but for those that 
know nothing about it there may be a few things to learn, especially when 
you have to get new images on the site. If you have to teach them how to 
write a web page, might as well just let them use Dreamweaver. Just 
allowing them to edit a section of a page is a great idea, but how are they 
going to create new pages. Personally I'm afraid to give my job away to 
some program.

Now what I did with a truck broker site is to use what they already had. 
They were eMailing photos on request and sending out an inventory list via 
fax on a regular basis. I had them save the inventory list as text onto the 
FTP server, this is pretty easy because they had Office which includes a 
FTP client, so the file got saved right where I needed it. I created an 
HTML template, and a script filled in the web pages based on the inventory 
contents. They could upload new photos from a web form or use the SendToFtp 
program. Now the photo name just needed to match the VIN number (even a 
partial match).

Now while the flyspeck thing might be able to do some of the work for you, 
it won't be able to do everything, you still have the problem of creating 
directories for customers to get their photos from. With Apache or ProFTP 
it's easy to create .htaccess files for just this purpose. Most of this 
work can be automated, either from Cron (*NIX systems), or a Perl or PHP 
script executed from a web form.

Now there is one area that I have to constantly edit, and I'm getting tired 
of that and I want to use Mozile, or more likely I'll just make a web form 
that they can edit. Currenty they eMail me this info and I update the site. 
I think in this case I'll just create an "Edit" page where they use the 
normal web form that edits a file, and this file is included on the web 
page using Server Side Includes (that's Apache). The only thing they need 
to know is how to get to the edit page, the script itself can deal with any 
mistakes they make.

I've seen many different scripts you can get that do specific things, like 
generate image galleries, but not likely to fill all your needs.

> BTW the doc gave me some new pain meds, only caution I'm not to drive
> anything more complicated than the TV remote.
> 

What if you have a complicated TV remote?

-- 
| Ric
From nttp.sc.s.g at bigsleep.org  Sun Apr  3 23:56:49 2005
From: nttp.sc.s.g at bigsleep.org (Blammo)
Date: Sun Apr  3 19:00:03 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] 
	Re: SHEESH!  Is there anyone who doesn't outsource Tech Support?
References: <d2pne1$p96$1@news.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <Xns962DA243D5037blammo@216.154.195.61>

On 03 Apr 2005 Heidz entered spamcop.geeks and left
news:d2pne1$p96$1@news.spamcop.net: 

> So what do I do? Is installing a hard drive difficult for the
> non-nerd? Alright, I'm semi-nerdy, but I've never done much more than
> install software and memory.
> 

Not really, but I think Gateway will do it for you, but you have to send 
them the computer.

Otherwise a Google search for "install new hard drive" turns up all sorts 
of sites like
http://www.pcworld.com/howto/article/0,aid,47370,00.asp

Also I believe some harddrive manufacturers offer a utility that transfers 
your data for you, seems that Gateway would offer some tool like this. 
Seems that IBM or Maxtor had such a utility.

You are correct that once you remove the old drive there is not much you 
can do. You will have to have both drives installed and transfer the data 
over, before you can remove the old one.
-- 
| Ric
From devnull at spamcop.net  Sun Apr  3 23:20:56 2005
From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince)
Date: Sun Apr  3 22:40:03 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Question on weg site process
References: <d2mbr7$1ng$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<Xns962C5B90E851Dblammo@216.154.195.61> <d2nbeo$j2q$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<Xns962DA05462270blammo@216.154.195.61>
Message-ID: <d2q995$2hk$1@news.spamcop.net>


"Blammo"
|
| > BTW the doc gave me some new pain meds, only caution I'm not to drive
| > anything more complicated than the TV remote.
| >
|
| What if you have a complicated TV remote?

I use a modified version of the channel search option my dad used:  In this
case I ask my 4 y.o. grand daughter to press the correct button.



From notformail0404 at comcast.net  Mon Apr  4 01:32:38 2005
From: notformail0404 at comcast.net (Gunter Herrmann)
Date: Mon Apr  4 00:35:07 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] 
	Re: SHEESH!  Is there anyone who doesn't outsource Tech Support?
In-Reply-To: <Xns962DA243D5037blammo@216.154.195.61>
References: <d2pne1$p96$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<Xns962DA243D5037blammo@216.154.195.61>
Message-ID: <d2qg19$5hb$1@news.spamcop.net>

Hi!

Blammo wrote:

> Also I believe some harddrive manufacturers offer a utility that transfers 
> your data for you, seems that Gateway would offer some tool like this. 
> Seems that IBM or Maxtor had such a utility.
> 
> You are correct that once you remove the old drive there is not much you 
> can do. You will have to have both drives installed and transfer the data 
> over, before you can remove the old one.

One option is to get a Linux cd and use dd.

Assuming both drives are on the primary adapter they are
/dev/hda and /dev/hdb

dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb bs=16M

will copy all of the first drive (if - input file )to the second 
drive (of - output file) in chunks (bs - block size) of 16 MByte.

HTH

-- 
Gunter Herrmann
Naples, Florida, USA
From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net  Mon Apr  4 11:01:08 2005
From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer)
Date: Mon Apr  4 10:05:09 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] 
	Re: SHEESH!  Is there anyone who doesn't outsource Tech Support?
References: <d2pne1$p96$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<Xns962DA243D5037blammo@216.154.195.61>
Message-ID: <d2rhap$lgj$1@news.spamcop.net>


"Blammo" <nttp.sc.s.g@bigsleep.org> wrote in message
news:Xns962DA243D5037blammo@216.154.195.61...
>
> Not really, but I think Gateway will do it for you, but you have to send
> them the computer.

No way I'm shipping it anywhere, things get lost, stolen, damaged, and I'd probably
be out one computer by the time it showed up again.
>
> Otherwise a Google search for "install new hard drive" turns up all sorts
> of sites like
> http://www.pcworld.com/howto/article/0,aid,47370,00.asp
>
> Also I believe some harddrive manufacturers offer a utility that transfers
> your data for you, seems that Gateway would offer some tool like this.
> Seems that IBM or Maxtor had such a utility.

Data transfer is not a big issue, I have stuff backed up on Cd that I can just copy
over and the other stuff I'd reinstall to start fresh, I'd be more worried about the
mechanical stuff, and maybe the OS and getting that installed correctly.


From rcarlton at spamcop.net  Mon Apr  4 10:45:54 2005
From: rcarlton at spamcop.net (Rick Carlton)
Date: Mon Apr  4 12:50:02 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] 
	Re: SHEESH!  Is there anyone who doesn't outsource Tech Support?
In-Reply-To: <d2rhap$lgj$1@news.spamcop.net>
References: <d2pne1$p96$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<Xns962DA243D5037blammo@216.154.195.61> <d2rhap$lgj$1@news.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <d2rr03$qne$1@news.spamcop.net>

Spamvireslayer wrote:
> Data transfer is not a big issue, I have stuff backed up on Cd that I can just copy
> over and the other stuff I'd reinstall to start fresh, I'd be more worried about the
> mechanical stuff, and maybe the OS and getting that installed correctly.

Mechanically, it's not tough - though it can be intimidating the first 
time. It's also empowering when you realize thhat aa PC reaally is just 
a glorified toaster.

The drive cables - both power and signal - are keyed so they only fit 
the correct way.

And, if you'd like to save yourself the love of reinstalling, a copy of 
Norton Ghost will take the entire old drive and clone it to the new one. 
CompUSA has this for $20 after rebates - which if you amortize into time 
saved, might be worth it.

If you're adverse to doing the work yourself, you can get a BestBuy or 
CompUSA to do it for you.   Or a tech at a local computer shop.  Scopee 
them out like aanyone else doing work for yoou and if they don't feel 
right - try a national franchised group like ComputerMoms.com.

As a rule - for $60, you should be able to get at least a 120GB drive - 
possibly after rebate.  CompUSA currently has a 160GB drive for $70, 
which is close.

Lastly, parts are parts.  There's no need to buy a new drive from 
Gateway when you can generally do better for the same money at any of 
the above mentioned stores.  Or newegg.com etc.
From rcarlton at spamcop.net  Mon Apr  4 11:09:41 2005
From: rcarlton at spamcop.net (Rick Carlton)
Date: Mon Apr  4 13:10:12 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Question on weg site process
In-Reply-To: <d2q995$2hk$1@news.spamcop.net>
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	<Xns962DA05462270blammo@216.154.195.61> <d2q995$2hk$1@news.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <d2rscm$res$1@news.spamcop.net>

Frog Prince wrote:
> I use a modified version of the channel search option my dad used:  In this
> case I ask my 4 y.o. grand daughter to press the correct button.


I'm sorry to hear of your pain.

Hoping that the meds and good karmic thoughts will help you to be rid of 
the stones.

Dumb question regarding this issue - are they running Macs?

If so, a .Mac subscription includes most - if not all - of what you're 
talking about, allows them to mount the .Mac volume on their Mac (or 
Windows XP box) and drag and drop.  It's $99/yr - though routinely 
discounted to $70/yr.

Includes 250MB storage (though I understand that's about to jump) and is 
an all around good service for non-technical and/or people who need to 
publish quickly.  You can map external domain names to it, etc just like 
any other service.

Another option would be Flickr or Ofoto, though they are less graceful 
integration-wise IMHO.

This isn't as fun aand geeeky as other options, but depending on your 
client - might be a good choice.
From borgholio at storymind.com  Mon Apr  4 12:01:16 2005
From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio)
Date: Mon Apr  4 14:05:03 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] 
	Re: SHEESH!  Is there anyone who doesn't outsource Tech Support?
In-Reply-To: <d2rr03$qne$1@news.spamcop.net>
References: <d2pne1$p96$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<Xns962DA243D5037blammo@216.154.195.61> <d2rhap$lgj$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<d2rr03$qne$1@news.spamcop.net>
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Rick Carlton wrote:
> Spamvireslayer wrote:
> 
>> Data transfer is not a big issue, I have stuff backed up on Cd that I 
>> can just copy
>> over and the other stuff I'd reinstall to start fresh, I'd be more 
>> worried about the
>> mechanical stuff, and maybe the OS and getting that installed correctly.
> 
> 
> Mechanically, it's not tough - though it can be intimidating the first 
> time. It's also empowering when you realize thhat aa PC reaally is just 
> a glorified toaster.
> 
> The drive cables - both power and signal - are keyed so they only fit 
> the correct way.
> 
> And, if you'd like to save yourself the love of reinstalling, a copy of 
> Norton Ghost will take the entire old drive and clone it to the new one. 
> CompUSA has this for $20 after rebates - which if you amortize into time 
> saved, might be worth it.
> 
> If you're adverse to doing the work yourself, you can get a BestBuy or 
> CompUSA to do it for you.   Or a tech at a local computer shop.  Scopee 
> them out like aanyone else doing work for yoou and if they don't feel 
> right - try a national franchised group like ComputerMoms.com.
> 
> As a rule - for $60, you should be able to get at least a 120GB drive - 
> possibly after rebate.  CompUSA currently has a 160GB drive for $70, 
> which is close.
> 
> Lastly, parts are parts.  There's no need to buy a new drive from 
> Gateway when you can generally do better for the same money at any of 
> the above mentioned stores.  Or newegg.com etc.

No need to buy Ghost.  If it's a common name-brand hard drive (Maxtor, 
Fujitsu, Seagate, Western Digital, etc...) You can download a FREE utility 
from their websites that will copy your data from the old drive to the new 
one.  Painless.  :)
From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net  Mon Apr  4 15:21:47 2005
From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer)
Date: Mon Apr  4 14:25:03 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] 
	Re: SHEESH!  Is there anyone who doesn't outsource Tech Support?
References: <d2pne1$p96$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<Xns962DA243D5037blammo@216.154.195.61> <d2rhap$lgj$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<d2rr03$qne$1@news.spamcop.net>
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"Rick Carlton" <rcarlton@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:d2rr03$qne$1@news.spamcop.net...
>
> Mechanically, it's not tough - though it can be intimidating the first
> time. It's also empowering when you realize thhat aa PC reaally is just
> a glorified toaster.
>
> The drive cables - both power and signal - are keyed so they only fit
> the correct way.

I could imagine that, but never having done it, I don't necessarily want to
experience it the hard way!  We have a guy who has done geek stuff locally for us in
our office, but at $85 an hour, prolly 2 hours, it'll cost more than the hard drive.
>
> And, if you'd like to save yourself the love of reinstalling, a copy of
> Norton Ghost will take the entire old drive and clone it to the new one.
> CompUSA has this for $20 after rebates - which if you amortize into time
> saved, might be worth it.

Might be worth it, but since I hosed up the last OS install, I wouldn't mind starting
fresh.  My copy of ME blew up,  I tried to fix, no fix. Tried to reinstall, unable to
reinstall, got a copy of 2K and installed that, unfortunately did not pick 'clean
install' from the menu so I have two OS's on my pc right now.  Doesn't seem to be a
problem, but I could happily lose all the ME crap.
>
> As a rule - for $60, you should be able to get at least a 120GB drive -
> possibly after rebate.  CompUSA currently has a 160GB drive for $70,
> which is close.
>
> Lastly, parts are parts.  There's no need to buy a new drive from
> Gateway when you can generally do better for the same money at any of
> the above mentioned stores.  Or newegg.com etc.

The reason I went to Gateway is I don't want to mess about with compatibility
problems, if I buy a new drive somewhere else and it doesn't work with the
motherboard or something I'll be SOL, at least Gateway will be likely to send me
something that will work.  I could upgrade my memory too, If it doesn't matter, then
I might just look elsewhere.  Or splash out on a new PC.  There's those Dell thingies
for $500 and change.......but with Dell you get India......


From devnull at spamcop.net  Mon Apr  4 15:16:19 2005
From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince)
Date: Mon Apr  4 14:25:06 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Question on weg site process
References: <d2mbr7$1ng$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<Xns962C5B90E851Dblammo@216.154.195.61> <d2nbeo$j2q$1@news.spamcop.net>
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"Rick Carlton" <rcarlton@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:d2rscm$res$1@news.spamcop.net...
| Frog Prince wrote:
| > I use a modified version of the channel search option my dad used:  In
this
| > case I ask my 4 y.o. grand daughter to press the correct button.
|
|
| I'm sorry to hear of your pain.
|
| Hoping that the meds and good karmic thoughts will help you to be rid of
| the stones.
|
| Dumb question regarding this issue - are they running Macs?

In this case no but whatever we go for needs to be OS independant.
|
| If so, a .Mac subscription includes most - if not all - of what you're
| talking about, allows them to mount the .Mac volume on their Mac (or
| Windows XP box) and drag and drop.  It's $99/yr - though routinely
| discounted to $70/yr.

This is another cost center that they'd prefer to avoid.  Heck if they'd pay
$99 per year I'd do it myself.

| Includes 250MB storage (though I understand that's about to jump) and is
| an all around good service for non-technical and/or people who need to
| publish quickly.  You can map external domain names to it, etc just like
| any other service.
|
| Another option would be Flickr or Ofoto, though they are less graceful
| integration-wise IMHO.
|
| This isn't as fun aand geeeky as other options, but depending on your
| client - might be a good choice.


From devnull at spamcop.net  Mon Apr  4 15:18:34 2005
From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince)
Date: Mon Apr  4 14:25:08 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] 
	Re: SHEESH!  Is there anyone who doesn't outsource Tech Support?
References: <d2pne1$p96$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<Xns962DA243D5037blammo@216.154.195.61> <d2rhap$lgj$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<d2rr03$qne$1@news.spamcop.net>
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"Rick Carlton"
<snip>
|
| Lastly, parts are parts.  There's no need to buy a new drive from
| Gateway when you can generally do better for the same money at any of
| the above mentioned stores.  Or newegg.com etc.

Especially since buying from Gateway/Dell etc is likely going to carry a 1
year vs. 3 year warranty.


From rcarlton at spamcop.net  Mon Apr  4 12:53:59 2005
From: rcarlton at spamcop.net (Rick Carlton)
Date: Mon Apr  4 14:55:03 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Question on weg site process
In-Reply-To: <d2s0m4$tvi$1@news.spamcop.net>
References: <d2mbr7$1ng$1@news.spamcop.net>
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OK then, my recommendation is http://www.flickr.com/

Can't guess that it will always be free...especially now that Yahoo is 
buying them.

But it seems to meet your requirements in terms of features and cost.
From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net  Mon Apr  4 15:35:20 2005
From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (WazoO)
Date: Mon Apr  4 15:40:03 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] 
	Re: SHEESH!  Is there anyone who doesn't outsource Tech Support?
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"Heidz" <devnull@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:d2pne1$p96$1@news.spamcop.net...
>
> So what do I do? Is installing a hard drive difficult for the non-nerd?
> Alright, I'm semi-nerdy, but I've never done much more than install
software
> and memory.

Dropped you an e-mail.


From devnull at spamcop.net  Mon Apr  4 17:13:49 2005
From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince)
Date: Mon Apr  4 16:25:03 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Question on weg site process
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"Rick Carlton" <rcarlton@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:d2s2g8$uvk$1@news.spamcop.net...
| OK then, my recommendation is http://www.flickr.com/
|
| Can't guess that it will always be free...especially now that Yahoo is
| buying them.
|
| But it seems to meet your requirements in terms of features and cost.

Won't work as this is a professional studio.  Using something like Yahoo is
a no no.

Perhaps I was not clear.  They have a web site host but need a simple way to
transfer the proofs from their studio computer to the web site that is KISS
compliant.


From nobody at nowhere.invalid  Tue Apr  5 11:25:51 2005
From: nobody at nowhere.invalid (Steven Maesslein)
Date: Tue Apr  5 04:30:15 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Question on weg site process
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On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 16:13:49 -0400, Frog Prince coughed into
spamcop.geeks and left this in <d2s7m8$286$1@news.spamcop.net>:

> Perhaps I was not clear.  They have a web site host but need a simple way to
> transfer the proofs from their studio computer to the web site that is KISS
> compliant.

Set up an e-mail address on the server which feeds into a script that
extracts the attachment and processes it as required (ImageMagick is
your friend here, but I'm assuming it's a real server running some form
of Unix and not MickeyMouseware). Then, all they have to do is e-mail
the picture to that e-mail address.

-- 
Steve

For Mac, it's AppleTalk. For Novell, it's IPX. For Windows, it's a mystery.
For the Internet, it's TCP/IP. Linux supports them all.
From nttp.sc.s at bigsleep.org  Wed Apr  6 17:39:23 2005
From: nttp.sc.s at bigsleep.org (Blammo)
Date: Wed Apr  6 12:40:03 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Question on weg site process
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On 04 Apr 2005 Rick Carlton entered spamcop.geeks and left 
news:d2rscm$res$1@news.spamcop.net:

> Dumb question regarding this issue - are they running Macs?
> 
> If so, a .Mac subscription includes most - if not all - of what you're 
> talking about, allows them to mount the .Mac volume on their Mac (or 
> Windows XP box) and drag and drop.  It's $99/yr - though routinely 
> discounted to $70/yr.
> 
> 

This sounds similar to Samba http://www.samba.org/
which enables file sharing to work. I have this installed on my server, and 
may already be installed on your server, however I didn't mention this 
because of security concerns; I believe only the admin has access to this 
service (so the entire directory structure can be accessed), but then a 
VPS2 or dedicated server may allow you to create new user accounts for 
this.
Still, that won't help you to update pages.

-- 
| Ric
|
From nttp.sc.s at bigsleep.org  Wed Apr  6 17:45:05 2005
From: nttp.sc.s at bigsleep.org (Blammo)
Date: Wed Apr  6 12:50:04 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] 
	Re: SHEESH!  Is there anyone who doesn't outsource Tech Support?
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On 04 Apr 2005 Rick Carlton entered spamcop.geeks and left 
news:d2rr03$qne$1@news.spamcop.net:

> The drive cables - both power and signal - are keyed so they only fit 
> the correct way.
> 

Not all drive cables are keyed, though I would expect Gateway cables to be, 
none of mine are.

-- 
| Ric
|
From nttp.sc.s at bigsleep.org  Wed Apr  6 17:49:05 2005
From: nttp.sc.s at bigsleep.org (Blammo)
Date: Wed Apr  6 12:50:06 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] 
	Re: SHEESH!  Is there anyone who doesn't outsource Tech Support?
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On 04 Apr 2005 Spamvireslayer entered spamcop.geeks and left 
news:d2s0jf$tv9$1@news.spamcop.net:

> .......but with Dell you get India......

Hey, either we send money there, or they'll come here and build little 
mini-marts.
;-)

-- 
| Ric
|
From pete+usenet at heypete.com  Thu Apr  7 22:57:49 2005
From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson)
Date: Fri Apr  8 01:00:03 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Mounting CB radio in car?
Message-ID: <pete+usenet-D17B34.21574907042005@news.cesmail.net>

This may sound like a somewhat odd request, but I figured I'd have as 
much hope at finding an answer here as anywhere...

I have a 2003 Honda Insight. I also have a RadioShack car-mountable CB 
radio. I would like to combine the two, so as to have the radio mounted 
permanently in the vehicle with a permanently-mounted external antenna.

Obviously, installing such a radio for this type of car is most unusual, 
and Google searches have returned no relevant results.

I would be able to do most of the in-car installation myself, but would 
prefer to have any drilling of the car body to be done by a professional 
so as to avoid any messy problems, leaks, etc.

Mounting the radio underneath the dash is an option, but vertical space 
for one's feet is somewhat limited and the radio would definitely 
impinge on that room. Mounting under the center of the dash would render 
the cupholders useless, which is unacceptable. The gear-shift lever (for 
an auto transmission), emergency brake, and little coin-holding bucket 
occupy the room between the seats. Mounting on the ceiling would be a 
possibility, but may interfere with headroom or visibility of the 
rearview mirror.

Any suggestions on where to install the radio and how to go about doing 
the actual installation?

Cheers!

-- 
Pete Stephenson
HeyPete.com
From notgiven at nodomain.net  Fri Apr  8 08:18:16 2005
From: notgiven at nodomain.net (C. S.)
Date: Fri Apr  8 07:20:07 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Mounting CB radio in car?
References: <pete+usenet-D17B34.21574907042005@news.cesmail.net>
Message-ID: <ltoc519v8kug7n4p5mgfalqrt7rb2d5hjm@4ax.com>

Sometime around Thu, 07 Apr 2005 21:57:49 -0700, Pete Stephenson <pete+usenet@heypete.com>
deemed it necessary to offer:

> This may sound like a somewhat odd request, but I figured I'd have as 
> much hope at finding an answer here as anywhere...
> 

Odd indeed, since your technical savvy has been demonstrated
well in the past...     :-)

> I have a 2003 Honda Insight. I also have a RadioShack car-mountable CB 
> radio. I would like to combine the two, so as to have the radio mounted 
> permanently in the vehicle with a permanently-mounted external antenna.
> 
> Obviously, installing such a radio for this type of car is most unusual, 
> and Google searches have returned no relevant results.
> 
> I would be able to do most of the in-car installation myself, but would 
> prefer to have any drilling of the car body to be done by a professional 
> so as to avoid any messy problems, leaks, etc.
> 
> Mounting the radio underneath the dash is an option, but vertical space 
> for one's feet is somewhat limited and the radio would definitely 
> impinge on that room. Mounting under the center of the dash would render 
> the cupholders useless, which is unacceptable. The gear-shift lever (for 
> an auto transmission), emergency brake, and little coin-holding bucket 
> occupy the room between the seats. Mounting on the ceiling would be a 
> possibility, but may interfere with headroom or visibility of the 
> rearview mirror.
> 
> Any suggestions on where to install the radio and how to go about doing 
> the actual installation?
> 
> Cheers!

Judging by the images I'm able to find of the car's interior,
it would appear that the best location may be inside or
under the passenger-side glove box. Or similarly, mounted
sideways to one side of the console next to the radio.

Depending on the CB's dimensions, you might consider squeezing
it into an unconventional spot, such as between a seat and the
center console.

Is an external antenna a must? I'm aware of splitters/adapters
which allow connecting a standard radio and a CB to a typical
auto antenna. This would eliminate any exterior drilling or other
cutting, though I don't know if this leads to any sort of range/
performance loss of either device.

I know that budget is typically an issue for you; given that, have
you considered a unit that has all operating controls in the mike
with a main unit that mounts under a seat or other out-of-the-way
location(provided they're still even available)?
From devnull at spamcop.net  Fri Apr  8 08:36:36 2005
From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince)
Date: Fri Apr  8 07:40:03 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Mounting CB radio in car?
References: <pete+usenet-D17B34.21574907042005@news.cesmail.net>
	<ltoc519v8kug7n4p5mgfalqrt7rb2d5hjm@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <d35qd7$6tl$1@news.spamcop.net>

Once owned a business that did this type of work.  send me a link to a
picture of the driver/passenger area (brother_rabbit @ hotmail.com)

As to the antenna should not be a problem.  again can you send me a pict of
the front and rear of the car.

More later as I'm out the door until late this evening.

FP

"C. S." <notgiven@nodomain.net> wrote in message
news:ltoc519v8kug7n4p5mgfalqrt7rb2d5hjm@4ax.com...
| Sometime around Thu, 07 Apr 2005 21:57:49 -0700, Pete Stephenson
<pete+usenet@heypete.com>
| deemed it necessary to offer:
|
| > This may sound like a somewhat odd request, but I figured I'd have as
| > much hope at finding an answer here as anywhere...
| >
|
| Odd indeed, since your technical savvy has been demonstrated
| well in the past...     :-)
|
| > I have a 2003 Honda Insight. I also have a RadioShack car-mountable CB
| > radio. I would like to combine the two, so as to have the radio mounted
| > permanently in the vehicle with a permanently-mounted external antenna.
| >
| > Obviously, installing such a radio for this type of car is most unusual,
| > and Google searches have returned no relevant results.
| >
| > I would be able to do most of the in-car installation myself, but would
| > prefer to have any drilling of the car body to be done by a professional
| > so as to avoid any messy problems, leaks, etc.
| >
| > Mounting the radio underneath the dash is an option, but vertical space
| > for one's feet is somewhat limited and the radio would definitely
| > impinge on that room. Mounting under the center of the dash would render
| > the cupholders useless, which is unacceptable. The gear-shift lever (for
| > an auto transmission), emergency brake, and little coin-holding bucket
| > occupy the room between the seats. Mounting on the ceiling would be a
| > possibility, but may interfere with headroom or visibility of the
| > rearview mirror.
| >
| > Any suggestions on where to install the radio and how to go about doing
| > the actual installation?
| >
| > Cheers!
|
| Judging by the images I'm able to find of the car's interior,
| it would appear that the best location may be inside or
| under the passenger-side glove box. Or similarly, mounted
| sideways to one side of the console next to the radio.
|
| Depending on the CB's dimensions, you might consider squeezing
| it into an unconventional spot, such as between a seat and the
| center console.
|
| Is an external antenna a must? I'm aware of splitters/adapters
| which allow connecting a standard radio and a CB to a typical
| auto antenna. This would eliminate any exterior drilling or other
| cutting, though I don't know if this leads to any sort of range/
| performance loss of either device.
|
| I know that budget is typically an issue for you; given that, have
| you considered a unit that has all operating controls in the mike
| with a main unit that mounts under a seat or other out-of-the-way
| location(provided they're still even available)?



From pete+usenet at heypete.com  Fri Apr  8 11:01:03 2005
From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson)
Date: Fri Apr  8 13:05:20 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Mounting CB radio in car?
References: <pete+usenet-D17B34.21574907042005@news.cesmail.net>
	<ltoc519v8kug7n4p5mgfalqrt7rb2d5hjm@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <pete+usenet-71972D.10010308042005@news.cesmail.net>

In article <ltoc519v8kug7n4p5mgfalqrt7rb2d5hjm@4ax.com>,
 C. S. <notgiven@nodomain.net> wrote:

> Odd indeed, since your technical savvy has been demonstrated
> well in the past...     :-)

*snerk*

I may have knowledge about a specific range of things, but I lack 
knowledge in many (most?) things. I may know how the microchips and 
circuits in the radio cause it to transmit radio waves, but I have no 
idea how the heck to effectively attach it to the vehicle. :-P

> Judging by the images I'm able to find of the car's interior,
> it would appear that the best location may be inside or
> under the passenger-side glove box. Or similarly, mounted
> sideways to one side of the console next to the radio.

Hmm. Inside the glove box (who keeps gloves in there anyway?) is out, as 
there's presently a fire extinguisher, some chemlights, trauma shears, 
latex gloves, and a three pound bag of change (for bridge tolls). 
Underneath might work -- I'll have to check to see how much room is 
available.

> Depending on the CB's dimensions, you might consider squeezing
> it into an unconventional spot, such as between a seat and the
> center console.

The console is somewhat sloped -- it has a flat top for the emergency 
brake and change-holding bin, but it is angled as it goes down to the 
seats. Still, that's a definite possibility. I just need to find out 
what lies underneath the carpet.

The radio appears to be similar in size and design to 
<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00004VXNZ/102-1636337-225
8508?v=glance&vi=pictures&img=14>, though the controls and microphone 
are of a different style. Mine has lots less whiz-bang features.

> Is an external antenna a must? I'm aware of splitters/adapters
> which allow connecting a standard radio and a CB to a typical
> auto antenna. This would eliminate any exterior drilling or other
> cutting, though I don't know if this leads to any sort of range/
> performance loss of either device.

If it could be connected to the standard car antenna without a 
significant loss in gain or range, I would be most satisfied. It would 
maintain the overall lines of my car.

However, I note that most CB antennas are at least three feet long. 
Presumably this is for the benefit of the radio waves which are quite 
low frequency. I'm not sure how much having a shorter antenna would 
affect this.

> I know that budget is typically an issue for you; given that, have
> you considered a unit that has all operating controls in the mike
> with a main unit that mounts under a seat or other out-of-the-way
> location(provided they're still even available)?

Alas, I only have this unit and can't really afford a new one. And yes, 
budget is an issue for me. I do have a credit card, but I don't want to 
use it anymore. In fact, I've locked it in the safe so I can't use it 
when I'm out and about. So far, it's saved me from a few temptations. :-P

I really need to start saving some money up, particularly when my 
expenses are low.

-- 
Pete Stephenson
HeyPete.com
From noah.boddie at newsgroup.nospam  Fri Apr  8 18:41:48 2005
From: noah.boddie at newsgroup.nospam (Dwayne Conyers)
Date: Fri Apr  8 17:45:04 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Mounting CB radio in car?
References: <pete+usenet-D17B34.21574907042005@news.cesmail.net>
Message-ID: <d36tqs$qt8$1@news.spamcop.net>

I had a CB in my car in the 1980's... I was a kid out of school in Texas and 
CB was the big thing.

I found an antenna that combined AM/FM/CB (basically, the CB part was an 
extension on top of a regular antenna.  I haven't seen these in ages but 
perhaps you can find one in Radio Shack or an auto parts store?

A guy who lived nearby put two long CB antennas on the front bumpers of his 
car and tied them in an arc to his rear bumper... not very aesthetic and 
looked dangerous.  :-{

In terms of the radio, my car (Renault Alliance) had no empty space under 
the radio console (all of my subsequent vehicles did have that empty space 
and it was simply used to hold coins, LOL).  :-)

For the Alliance, I drilled holes on the passenger side and mounted there. 
My rare passengers were a bit uncomfortable, but for those long lonely 
drives on the TX highway, it was perfect for me.

-- 
I Shave With Occams Razor
http://www.dwacon.com 


From rcarlton at spamcop.net  Fri Apr  8 22:37:41 2005
From: rcarlton at spamcop.net (Rick Carlton)
Date: Sat Apr  9 00:40:06 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Mounting CB radio in car?
In-Reply-To: <pete+usenet-D17B34.21574907042005@news.cesmail.net>
References: <pete+usenet-D17B34.21574907042005@news.cesmail.net>
Message-ID: <d37m6l$7e7$2@news.spamcop.net>

Pete Stephenson wrote:
> Any suggestions on where to install the radio and how to go about doing 
> the actual installation?


Does thee haandset for the CB act as a remote for the head unit?

If so, what about under one of the seats?

Also, does the Insight support Bluetooth?   Might be a way to 
trunk-mount the CB withaa Bluetooth transmitter and use the existing 
radio as the front-end.
From rcarlton at spamcop.net  Fri Apr  8 22:40:08 2005
From: rcarlton at spamcop.net (Rick Carlton)
Date: Sat Apr  9 00:45:04 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Question on weg site process
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Frog Prince wrote:
> Perhaps I was not clear.  They have a web site host but need a simple way to
> transfer the proofs from their studio computer to the web site that is KISS
> compliant.

Been somewhat busy for a few days, wondering what you decided.

If they are using Dreamweaver MX 2004, it has built-in FTP support for 
publishing the site.  So, if they developed a template forr their 
customer proof gallery, they could place the images onto the page, hit 
the Publish button, and voila.

This doesn't solve the maanaged access issue.



From wb8tyw at qsl.network  Sat Apr  9 02:41:21 2005
From: wb8tyw at qsl.network (John E. Malmberg)
Date: Sat Apr  9 01:45:03 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Mounting CB radio in car?
In-Reply-To: <pete+usenet-71972D.10010308042005@news.cesmail.net>
References: <pete+usenet-D17B34.21574907042005@news.cesmail.net>
	<ltoc519v8kug7n4p5mgfalqrt7rb2d5hjm@4ax.com>
	<pete+usenet-71972D.10010308042005@news.cesmail.net>
Message-ID: <d37pu1$99d$1@news.spamcop.net>

Pete Stephenson wrote:

> The radio appears to be similar in size and design to 
> <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00004VXNZ/102-1636337-225
> 8508?v=glance&vi=pictures&img=14>, though the controls and microphone 
> are of a different style. Mine has lots less whiz-bang features.

If you are not attached to that particular radio, there are models that 
allow everything to be controlled by the microphone, including an LED 
display in it.  This allows the rest of the radio to be anywhere that 
you want.

Small CB radios can also be found that can mount almost anywhere.  The 
main difference in them is the quality of the receiver.  The rest of the 
specifications are set by regulations, so are pretty close to the same 
for all models.

Oh, I see below that cost is an object.

> If it could be connected to the standard car antenna without a 
> significant loss in gain or range, I would be most satisfied. It would 
> maintain the overall lines of my car.
> 
> However, I note that most CB antennas are at least three feet long. 
> Presumably this is for the benefit of the radio waves which are quite 
> low frequency. I'm not sure how much having a shorter antenna would 
> affect this.

If you want the maximum range, you will put a 102 inch full size whip in 
the exact center of your car, and make sure that you have a good ground.

Follow that by putting the 102 inch full size whip anywhere else on the car.

Anything else will give you less range both on transmit or receive.  I 
am not sure how much of a reduction that you will get by using a signal 
trap/splitter to share the car antenna.

Generally the models that I have seen (and this was a while ago) were 
more expensive than just getting a separate antenna.

The 102 inch whip antenna may also be the lowest cost option.  It's size 
is the major hassle.

On older cars, bumper clamp mounts where you make sure that a ground is 
well connected, will usually make the best compromise if you do not feel 
like drilling a hole in the top of your vehicle.

The farther away from the center of the vehicle that you put the 
antenna, the more distorted the pattern of a chart of maximum effective 
range will be.

On newer cars, what I have found is a trip to the hardware store will 
show up some metal brackets that can be bolted on the bottom of the car 
to extend out just a little behind the plastic bumper.  And then the 
antenna can be bolted to that.  When you sell the car, everything can be 
removed with no evidence that an antenna was ever there.

If I where more clever, I would rig up a fold over mount that would 
retract under the bumper, motorized of course, so that the antenna would 
be hidden or safely stored when I did not want it to be seen.

Because a full size whip is usually too big for aesthetics, the next 
best choice that use to be available was a half size white fiberglass 
whip. The antenna wire is embedded in a visible spiral on the antenna.

The big disadvantage of that type of fiberglass whip is that it is not 
flexible.  A trip through a car wash or other impact can destroy the 
antenna.  Or the impact with the ceiling of a car repair bay.

IIRC: full size whip and the 1/2 size fiber glass whip both use the same 
mount, and quick disconnects were available.

The antenna length includes a spring which does not seem to do much as 
it is very stiff.  Removing the spring makes it about the right length 
for 10M Amateur Radio communication.  As near as I can tell the spring 
is mainly for looks.

 From this point on you can go with shorter antennas which will have a 
"load" coil to make them electrically equivalent to the longer antenna. 
  They will not have the range of the other antennas as the length of 
the radiating element is the major factor.

This allows a model known as a flip trunk mount, which mounts inside the 
trunk, and flips out when needed, but can be folded down when you either 
do not want the antenna to be seen or damaged.

Magnetic mount antennas are also available.

One thing to look at when purchasing antennas for CB radios is that 
there are also commercial and amateur radio services that can use the 
same antenna designs.

You will find that some designs are only sold to CB radio operators, who 
are the least likely to understand what they are buying.

Also if you really want the maximum range for a given antenna, you will 
need to tune it either by adjusting the length or the control on the 
matching network.  The easiest way to measure the adjustments is by 
watching the signal strength of incoming signals as you make adjustments.

For more advanced, an impedance bridge is used, but that also requires 
transmitting a small signal.

You also have to consider that the best that you will probably get with 
vehicle to vehicle communications is about 8 to 10 miles, and that most 
people are going to be using the popular loading coil models.  So you 
will probably be able to get about a 5 mile range with most antennas.

The big range limiters are that you are close to the ground, and your 
vehicle is not well grounded.

> Alas, I only have this unit and can't really afford a new one. And yes, 
> budget is an issue for me. I do have a credit card, but I don't want to 
> use it anymore. In fact, I've locked it in the safe so I can't use it 
> when I'm out and about. So far, it's saved me from a few temptations. :-P

In some areas, all you need to do is let the people around you know that 
you are interested in a used CB or similar used electrical gadget, and 
things just show up that people want to get rid of.  About the only used 
CB sets that have any real cash value are SSB models, or ones that 
people would buy because of marketing hype.

> I really need to start saving some money up, particularly when my 
> expenses are low.

For a home CB or 10M Amateur antenna, the best omni-directional that I 
have found so far is a home-made folded dipole made out of TV twin-lead 
and then stretched vertically with an RG59 balun.

I have not figured out how to mount something like that on a passenger 
vehicle, as it is about 18' in length.

-John
wb8tyw@qsl.network
Personal Opinion Only
From devnull at spamcop.net  Sat Apr  9 12:27:32 2005
From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince)
Date: Sat Apr  9 11:30:22 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Question on weg site process
References: <d2mbr7$1ng$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<Xns962C5B90E851Dblammo@216.154.195.61> <d2nbeo$j2q$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<Xns962DA05462270blammo@216.154.195.61> <d2q995$2hk$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<d2rscm$res$1@news.spamcop.net> <d2s0m4$tvi$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<d2s2g8$uvk$1@news.spamcop.net> <d2s7m8$286$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<d37mb8$7e7$3@news.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <d38sb3$oug$1@news.spamcop.net>


"Rick Carlton"

| Frog Prince wrote:
| > Perhaps I was not clear.  They have a web site host but need a simple
way to
| > transfer the proofs from their studio computer to the web site that is
KISS
| > compliant.
|
| Been somewhat busy for a few days, wondering what you decided.
|
| If they are using Dreamweaver MX 2004, it has built-in FTP support for
| publishing the site.  So, if they developed a template for their
| customer proof gallery, they could place the images onto the page, hit
| the Publish button, and voila.
|
| This doesn't solve the managed access issue.

Dreamweaver MX4 cost would give them apoplexy not to mention scare then to
death trying to learn how to drive it.

As a temporary measure we're going to do manual updates for $10 per session
assuming no other maintenance or changes required.  Still looking for a
practical end user controlled process as I expect this to be an ongoing
requirement and the our time is more valuable (>$10) spent doing other
things.

We're also considering building into the site a guesstimate (10-15?) dead
pages that would be pass word access for them to used for loading current
clients proofs.


From nttp.sc.sg.fp at bigsleep.org  Sun Apr 10 00:42:12 2005
From: nttp.sc.sg.fp at bigsleep.org (Blammo)
Date: Sat Apr  9 19:45:02 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Question on weg site process
References: <d2mbr7$1ng$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<Xns962C5B90E851Dblammo@216.154.195.61> <d2nbeo$j2q$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<Xns962DA05462270blammo@216.154.195.61> <d2q995$2hk$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<d2rscm$res$1@news.spamcop.net> <d2s0m4$tvi$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<d2s2g8$uvk$1@news.spamcop.net> <d2s7m8$286$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<d37mb8$7e7$3@news.spamcop.net> <d38sb3$oug$1@news.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <Xns9633A9F868577blammo@216.154.195.61>

On 09 Apr 2005 Frog Prince entered spamcop.geeks and left
news:d38sb3$oug$1@news.spamcop.net: 

> As a temporary measure we're going to do manual updates for $10 per
> session assuming no other maintenance or changes required.  Still
> looking for a practical end user controlled process as I expect this
> to be an ongoing requirement and the our time is more valuable (>$10)
> spent doing other things.
> 
> We're also considering building into the site a guesstimate (10-15?)
> dead pages that would be pass word access for them to used for loading
> current clients proofs.
> 

I don't have a lot of time myself, but if I had a URL I could advise or 
possibly write something useful. 
I'll enable this address for a couple days.

-- 
| Ric
|
From Ilgaz at spamcop.net  Sun Apr 10 15:43:14 2005
From: Ilgaz at spamcop.net (Ilgaz Ocal)
Date: Sun Apr 10 07:45:02 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] 
	Re: SPEWS: A removal request of 222.233.52.0/24 (S3145)
References: <d0lvtc$o4b$1@news.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <Ilgaz-0C318A.14431410042005@news.spamcop.net>

Speaking about the uncountable (more than petabytes I think) Internet, 
you couldn't find a worse place to post this article.

That post looks like a terrible missed opportunity for April 1

I am not joining the flaming since I think your company doesn't deserve 
flaming even.

At least, thank you for making me buy spamcop account and support them 
that way...

One day, an army of lawyers will knock your door and believe me, they 
will take everything except your underwear.

You have no clue how evil those suits can be. You deserved it. Just a 
matter of time. Mark my word for future.

Ilgaz Ocal


In article <d0lvtc$o4b$1@news.spamcop.net>, <abuse@hanaro.com> wrote:

> This is Hanaro anti spam center.
> 
> Our customer's network 222.233.52.0/24 is currently listed in spews.org. We 
> fixed the spam problem in 222.233.52.0/24. 222.233.52.0/24 was listed in 
> SBL(Spamhaus.org), but was already delisted as soon as we fixed the problem 
> in this network.
> 
> We would like to ask spews administrator to remove 222.233.52.0/24 from 
> their list.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Abuse Staff
> abuse@hanaro.com
From Ilgaz at spamcop.net  Sun Apr 10 15:50:40 2005
From: Ilgaz at spamcop.net (Ilgaz Ocal)
Date: Sun Apr 10 07:55:03 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Hardware for anti-spyware
References: <d22vie$k22$1@news.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <Ilgaz-B5E00A.14504010042005@news.spamcop.net>

In article <d22vie$k22$1@news.spamcop.net>, "DC" <hee.haw@jack.ass> 
wrote:

> Are there any hardware appliances that can be installed at the gateway to
> block spyware?  I know they have similar for spam and viruses.  Thanks.

I only know eSafe appliance, seek it on web.

I used their CPU monster "desktop" which was free back in the day, if it 
has not changed, we are speaking about pure dictatorship over clients 
here. :)

It was using a lot of CPU and I guess its not a problem in appliance.

Giving an example... User can NOT doubleclick an attachement in Outlook 
express. Also it will be immediately reported to admin to go and lecture 
user for 5 hours about viruses :)

I used it in, 2001 or 2000, I am NOT sure if it has changed. Better read 
whitepapers.

Also, thanks to reading spamcop technical reports :) I think they use 
http://www.ironport.com/ devices. I'd go for what spamcop uses.

Note, I am a home user only and never worked with those "big" stuff.

Ilgaz Ocal
From Ilgaz at spamcop.net  Sun Apr 10 15:53:32 2005
From: Ilgaz at spamcop.net (Ilgaz Ocal)
Date: Sun Apr 10 07:55:06 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] 
	Re: SHEESH!  Is there anyone who doesn't outsource Tech Support?
References: <d2pne1$p96$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<Xns962DA243D5037blammo@216.154.195.61>
Message-ID: <Ilgaz-FFA67F.14533210042005@news.spamcop.net>

In article <Xns962DA243D5037blammo@216.154.195.61>,
 Blammo <nttp.sc.s.g@bigsleep.org> wrote:

> On 03 Apr 2005 Heidz entered spamcop.geeks and left
> news:d2pne1$p96$1@news.spamcop.net: 
> 
> > So what do I do? Is installing a hard drive difficult for the
> > non-nerd? Alright, I'm semi-nerdy, but I've never done much more than
> > install software and memory.
> > 
> 
> Not really, but I think Gateway will do it for you, but you have to send 
> them the computer.
> 
> Otherwise a Google search for "install new hard drive" turns up all sorts 
> of sites like
> http://www.pcworld.com/howto/article/0,aid,47370,00.asp
> 
> Also I believe some harddrive manufacturers offer a utility that transfers 
> your data for you, seems that Gateway would offer some tool like this. 
> Seems that IBM or Maxtor had such a utility.
> 
> You are correct that once you remove the old drive there is not much you 
> can do. You will have to have both drives installed and transfer the data 
> over, before you can remove the old one.

Also Seagate (http://www.seagate.com), speaking about software 
support... I was checking my seagate drive from web, via activeX in 
Internet explorer back in my PC days.

Their documentation is general, not much shameless plugs and huge.

I check the site when I have a question about HD in general. 

Ilgaz Ocal
From Ilgaz at spamcop.net  Sun Apr 10 16:09:55 2005
From: Ilgaz at spamcop.net (Ilgaz Ocal)
Date: Sun Apr 10 08:10:02 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Dealing with Idiots
References: <d1b0ge$t02$1@news.spamcop.net> <slrnd3ihjb.q8.nobody@127.0.0.1>
Message-ID: <Ilgaz-8EB395.15095510042005@news.spamcop.net>

After purchasing something I can'T remember from Allume (those Aladdin 
stuffit guys lost their name :)) I entered Ilgaz@spamcop.net to the web 
form which was needed, they aren't spammers btw...

I had a strange error as "Due to abuse from that domain, we aren't 
accepting any adresses"

So, it looks like a trend started or at least hit that company to give 
fake spamcop addresses, a childish way of protesting that form. It 
somehow hit me, a real customer of them. Imagine that.

I had to give Yahoo and it accepted.

Sorry, I thought it was normal for some reason and don't remember the 
exact thing.

Of course, some may hate that company but there is nothing to suggest 
that they are spamming anyone.

If I got mad to that point, I wouldn't give a fake address involving 
another company. There is a simple way. Do not use that product. :)

I think it may be relevant.

The attitude is (I guess) "If you try to spam me, you will spam spamcop 
admin so bad things will happen"

Spamcop became big name, having respect from community, I think its a 
side effect.

People think, when spamcop admin get spam mail, he does some high tech 
tricks and spammer machine blows :)

Have a nice day

Ilgaz Ocal

In article <slrnd3ihjb.q8.nobody@127.0.0.1>,
 Steven Maesslein <nobody@nowhere.invalid> wrote:

> On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:19:28 -0500, DC coughed into spamcop.geeks and
> left this in <d1b0ge$t02$1@news.spamcop.net>:
> 
> > If I wanted to attempt legal action, could it be possible to trace their
> > news postings or use the IP address captured by our web mail form to
> > identify the person?
> 
> I wouldn't bother. You're probably going to spend a lot of time and 
> effort only to find that the postings were made and your webform 
> accessed through an open proxy.
From Ilgaz at spamcop.net  Sun Apr 10 16:18:47 2005
From: Ilgaz at spamcop.net (Ilgaz Ocal)
Date: Sun Apr 10 08:20:21 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] I need real usenet server (no bin needed)
Message-ID: <Ilgaz-44358D.15184710042005@news.spamcop.net>

Hi,

Back in the day, I was a frequent usenet user. Now moved to a cable ISP, 
they have no support for usenet and I thank god for it since they 
couldn't manage it already.

I searched web for "free usenet", only pirate stuff appears, in fact 
results are flooded by those "open nntp list" lame webpages and if there 
is something like that, I can't find already.

I used news.cis.dfn.de with a username/password generated to my legit 
mail (you can guess) but they are closed to people outside German 
academic network now (guess the reason!)

I don't need mp3, pictures etc. I want plain text. Is there a service 
like that for free?

The commercial ones speak about their DS-3 lines, super duper fastness 
etc and have price tags which costs more than spamcop mail.

As you may guess, the "service" they advertise is not usenet, its binary 
groups/files.

Hopefully someone knows such a server. BTW, those "open nntp" things are 
like open proxies, will be blocked from any seriously administered news 
server.

Ilgaz Ocal
From devnull at spamcop.net  Sun Apr 10 09:59:57 2005
From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince)
Date: Sun Apr 10 09:05:17 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: I need real usenet server (no bin needed)
References: <Ilgaz-44358D.15184710042005@news.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <d3b895$1im$1@news.spamcop.net>


"Ilgaz Ocal" <Ilgaz@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:Ilgaz-44358D.15184710042005@news.spamcop.net...
| Hi,
|
| Back in the day, I was a frequent usenet user. Now moved to a cable ISP,
| they have no support for usenet and I thank god for it since they
| couldn't manage it already.
|
| I searched web for "free usenet", only pirate stuff appears, in fact
| results are flooded by those "open nntp list" lame webpages and if there
| is something like that, I can't find already.
|
| I used news.cis.dfn.de with a username/password generated to my legit
| mail (you can guess) but they are closed to people outside German
| academic network now (guess the reason!)
|
| I don't need mp3, pictures etc. I want plain text. Is there a service
| like that for free?
|
| The commercial ones speak about their DS-3 lines, super duper fastness
| etc and have price tags which costs more than spamcop mail.
|
| As you may guess, the "service" they advertise is not usenet, its binary
| groups/files.
|
| Hopefully someone knows such a server. BTW, those "open nntp" things are
| like open proxies, will be blocked from any seriously administered news
| server.
|
| Ilgaz Ocal

Try  news.excelonline.com   they're based in the USA, Texas I think, and
seem to be reasonabley reliable.

FP


From wb8tyw at qsl.network  Sun Apr 10 10:45:14 2005
From: wb8tyw at qsl.network (John E. Malmberg)
Date: Sun Apr 10 09:50:02 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Hardware for anti-spyware
In-Reply-To: <Ilgaz-B5E00A.14504010042005@news.spamcop.net>
References: <d22vie$k22$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<Ilgaz-B5E00A.14504010042005@news.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <d3bala$2q4$1@news.spamcop.net>

Ilgaz Ocal wrote:
> 
> Also, thanks to reading spamcop technical reports :) I think they use 
> http://www.ironport.com/ devices. I'd go for what spamcop uses.

Aside from Ironport's purchase of the spamcop.net reporting service, all 
the stuff that I have read indicates that the spamcop.net reporting 
service only uses open source software.

The mail service appears to be owned by a separate person, and I do not 
know what they use.

-John
wb8tyw@qsl.network
Personal Opinion Only
From MikeE at ster.invalid  Sun Apr 10 08:25:38 2005
From: MikeE at ster.invalid (Mike Easter)
Date: Sun Apr 10 10:25:02 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: I need real usenet server (no bin needed)
References: <Ilgaz-44358D.15184710042005@news.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <d3bctq$40k$1@news.spamcop.net>

Ilgaz Ocal wrote:
> I used news.cis.dfn.de with a username/password generated to my legit
> mail (you can guess) but they are closed to people outside German
> academic network now (guess the reason!)

news.cis.dfn.de is a very excellent news service.  It is also NIN, news
individual.net which is also a very excellent text news service which
was also free up until Apr 1, when it became a 'minimal' pay server, at
10 euros/year.  It may become an even more excellent news service,
because there are some distinct advantages to a news provider to require
some form of payment identity registration.

When NIN became pay and required using FirstGate to pay them, I started
'sampling' other free and nearly free news servers, some of which opened
themselves up to additional registrations temporarily to meet the needs
of people seeking free news as a result of NIN becoming pay.   Currently
I am using the free or nearly free versions of news.x-privat.org,
news.shared-secrets.com, news.readfreenews.net, and free.teranews.com on
a try it and see basis.

I think NIN at 10 euros a year is a good buy.
http://news.individual.net/  There are other good ones free or almost
free, where almost free is something like $3 forever.

-- 
Mike Easter
kibitzer, not SC admin

From Ilgaz at spamcop.net  Sun Apr 10 19:29:16 2005
From: Ilgaz at spamcop.net (Ilgaz Ocal)
Date: Sun Apr 10 11:30:25 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: I need real usenet server (no bin needed)
References: <Ilgaz-44358D.15184710042005@news.spamcop.net>
	<d3bctq$40k$1@news.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <Ilgaz-8303D8.18291610042005@news.spamcop.net>

Hi,

Thanks for information. You can imagine the nightmare I had when I 
searched "usenet server" on yahoo. :)

Will check frog prince's too

Ilgaz Ocal
In article <d3bctq$40k$1@news.spamcop.net>,
 "Mike Easter" <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote:

> Ilgaz Ocal wrote:
> > I used news.cis.dfn.de with a username/password generated to my legit
> > mail (you can guess) but they are closed to people outside German
> > academic network now (guess the reason!)
> 
> news.cis.dfn.de is a very excellent news service.  It is also NIN, news
> individual.net which is also a very excellent text news service which
> was also free up until Apr 1, when it became a 'minimal' pay server, at
> 10 euros/year.  It may become an even more excellent news service,
> because there are some distinct advantages to a news provider to require
> some form of payment identity registration.
> 
> When NIN became pay and required using FirstGate to pay them, I started
> 'sampling' other free and nearly free news servers, some of which opened
> themselves up to additional registrations temporarily to meet the needs
> of people seeking free news as a result of NIN becoming pay.   Currently
> I am using the free or nearly free versions of news.x-privat.org,
> news.shared-secrets.com, news.readfreenews.net, and free.teranews.com on
> a try it and see basis.
> 
> I think NIN at 10 euros a year is a good buy.
> http://news.individual.net/  There are other good ones free or almost
> free, where almost free is something like $3 forever.
From user at domain.invalid  Sun Apr 10 13:04:14 2005
From: user at domain.invalid (User)
Date: Sun Apr 10 13:05:06 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Netscape Web Mail Woes
Message-ID: <d3bm41$8ua$1@news.spamcop.net>

As if AOL/Netscape needs more problems. Now they just released a new web
mail product and when I send mail to myself, my mail server rejects it with:

>>>> 205.188.157.34 listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net

Funny, but tragic to say the least.
From nobody at nowhere.invalid  Sun Apr 10 20:25:18 2005
From: nobody at nowhere.invalid (Steven Maesslein)
Date: Sun Apr 10 13:30:06 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Netscape Web Mail Woes
References: <d3bm41$8ua$1@news.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <slrnd5iobu.95c.nobody@127.0.0.1>

On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 12:04:14 -0500, User coughed into spamcop.geeks and 
left this in <d3bm41$8ua$1@news.spamcop.net>:

> As if AOL/Netscape needs more problems. Now they just released a new web
> mail product and when I send mail to myself, my mail server rejects it with:
>
>>>>> 205.188.157.34 listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net
>
> Funny, but tragic to say the least.

It's blocked here too. It's been pouring 419 crap out.

-- 
Steve

guru, n:
        A computer owner who can read the manual.
From heybub at gmail.com  Sun Apr 10 15:37:29 2005
From: heybub at gmail.com (HeyBub)
Date: Sun Apr 10 15:40:04 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] 
	Re: SHEESH!  Is there anyone who doesn't outsource Tech Support?
References: <d2pne1$p96$1@news.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <d3bv9h$dtn$1@news.spamcop.net>

Heidz wrote:
>
> So what do I do? Is installing a hard drive difficult for the
> non-nerd? Alright, I'm semi-nerdy, but I've never done much more than
> install software and memory.

Usually, not difficult. You will need a new hard drive, a screwdriver, and 
some cloning software.

The cloning software either comes with the drive or can be downloaded, 
usually, from the manufacturer's site.

1. Strap the new drive as a slave. Hook up two cables (data and power)
2. Load the software.
3. Clone your original drive to the new drive.
4. Disconnect the old drive.
5. Strap the new drive as the master.

6. (optional) You can now strap the original drive as "slave" as use to 
store temp files until it croaks for good.

None of the above works if you have a laptop.

You're fortunate - IDE drives last about three years (24/7).

(Fry's had a "Grand Opening" sale here this weekend. Hitachi 200GB drives 
for $60 (after rebates) )


From nobody at spamcop.net  Mon Apr 11 12:56:27 2005
From: nobody at spamcop.net (magus kent)
Date: Mon Apr 11 08:00:26 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: I need real usenet server (no bin needed)
References: <Ilgaz-44358D.15184710042005@news.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <Xns963550F0F8FE9maguskent@216.154.195.61>

Ilgaz Ocal <Ilgaz@spamcop.net> wrote in
news:Ilgaz-44358D.15184710042005@news.spamcop.net: 

> Hi,
> 
> Back in the day, I was a frequent usenet user. Now moved to a cable
> ISP, they have no support for usenet and I thank god for it since they
> couldn't manage it already.
> 
> I searched web for "free usenet", only pirate stuff appears, in fact 
> results are flooded by those "open nntp list" lame webpages and if
> there is something like that, I can't find already.
> 
> I used news.cis.dfn.de with a username/password generated to my legit 
> mail (you can guess) but they are closed to people outside German 
> academic network now (guess the reason!)
> 
> I don't need mp3, pictures etc. I want plain text. Is there a service 
> like that for free?
> 
> The commercial ones speak about their DS-3 lines, super duper fastness
> etc and have price tags which costs more than spamcop mail.
> 
> As you may guess, the "service" they advertise is not usenet, its
> binary groups/files.
> 
> Hopefully someone knows such a server. BTW, those "open nntp" things
> are like open proxies, will be blocked from any seriously administered
> news server.
> 
> Ilgaz Ocal

I've read about this one:

www.x-privat.org/join_en.php


m..
From Ilgaz at spamcop.net  Mon Apr 11 16:40:57 2005
From: Ilgaz at spamcop.net (Ilgaz Ocal)
Date: Mon Apr 11 08:45:13 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: I need real usenet server (no bin needed)
References: <Ilgaz-44358D.15184710042005@news.spamcop.net>
	<Xns963550F0F8FE9maguskent@216.154.195.61>
Message-ID: <Ilgaz-912763.15405711042005@news.spamcop.net>

In article <Xns963550F0F8FE9maguskent@216.154.195.61>,
 magus kent <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote:

> Ilgaz Ocal <Ilgaz@spamcop.net> wrote in
> news:Ilgaz-44358D.15184710042005@news.spamcop.net: 
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Back in the day, I was a frequent usenet user. Now moved to a cable
> > ISP, they have no support for usenet and I thank god for it since they
> > couldn't manage it already.
> > 
> > I searched web for "free usenet", only pirate stuff appears, in fact 
> > results are flooded by those "open nntp list" lame webpages and if
> > there is something like that, I can't find already.
> > 
> > I used news.cis.dfn.de with a username/password generated to my legit 
> > mail (you can guess) but they are closed to people outside German 
> > academic network now (guess the reason!)
> > 
> > Ilgaz Ocal
> 
> I've read about this one:
> 
> www.x-privat.org/join_en.php
> 
> 
> m..

Hi,

Have bought that "individual.net" for 10 euros/year. I was using it 
already and was happy with it. Sadly, I guess spammers abusing it made 
it non free for ordinary users.

Its news.cis.dfn.de to be exact. I see many spamcop people using it btw.

Maybe a team work between spamcop and them, e.g. promotion code would 
help both and of course we users.

Money goes to some academy, not a commercial company so I selected it.

Thanks for all help, it seems I really missed usenet :)

Ilgaz Ocal
From SCNews.5.myspamgobbler at spamgourmet.com  Mon Apr 11 21:19:46 2005
From: SCNews.5.myspamgobbler at spamgourmet.com (Brian (SnSR))
Date: Mon Apr 11 23:25:18 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] 
	Re: SHEESH!  Is there anyone who doesn't outsource Tech Support?
In-Reply-To: <d2s0jf$tv9$1@news.spamcop.net>
References: <d2pne1$p96$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<Xns962DA243D5037blammo@216.154.195.61> <d2rhap$lgj$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<d2rr03$qne$1@news.spamcop.net> <d2s0jf$tv9$1@news.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <d3fesd$7rs$1@news.spamcop.net>

Spamvireslayer wrote:
> "Rick Carlton" <rcarlton@spamcop.net> wrote in message
> news:d2rr03$qne$1@news.spamcop.net...
> 
>>Mechanically, it's not tough - though it can be intimidating the first
>>time. It's also empowering when you realize thhat aa PC reaally is just
>>a glorified toaster.
>>
>>The drive cables - both power and signal - are keyed so they only fit
>>the correct way.
> 
> 
> I could imagine that, but never having done it, I don't necessarily want to
> experience it the hard way!  We have a guy who has done geek stuff locally for us in
> our office, but at $85 an hour, prolly 2 hours, it'll cost more than the hard drive.
> 
>>And, if you'd like to save yourself the love of reinstalling, a copy of
>>Norton Ghost will take the entire old drive and clone it to the new one.
>>CompUSA has this for $20 after rebates - which if you amortize into time
>>saved, might be worth it.
> 
> 
> Might be worth it, but since I hosed up the last OS install, I wouldn't mind starting
> fresh.  My copy of ME blew up,  I tried to fix, no fix. Tried to reinstall, unable to
> reinstall, got a copy of 2K and installed that, unfortunately did not pick 'clean
> install' from the menu so I have two OS's on my pc right now.  Doesn't seem to be a
> problem, but I could happily lose all the ME crap.
> 
>>As a rule - for $60, you should be able to get at least a 120GB drive -
>>possibly after rebate.  CompUSA currently has a 160GB drive for $70,
>>which is close.
>>
>>Lastly, parts are parts.  There's no need to buy a new drive from
>>Gateway when you can generally do better for the same money at any of
>>the above mentioned stores.  Or newegg.com etc.
> 
> 
> The reason I went to Gateway is I don't want to mess about with compatibility
> problems, if I buy a new drive somewhere else and it doesn't work with the
> motherboard or something I'll be SOL, at least Gateway will be likely to send me
> something that will work.  I could upgrade my memory too, If it doesn't matter, then
> I might just look elsewhere.  Or splash out on a new PC.  There's those Dell thingies
> for $500 and change.......but with Dell you get India......
> 
> 

Here's something that I just ran across that you may find helpful, if 
you haven't already finished. There's a link on the page to a video of 
how to install a hard drive. The video is very professional and high 
quality ;). Well, maybe not, but it gets the points across.

www.lexundesigns.com/LexunFreeware/Topics/Installing%20a%20Second%20Hard%20Drive.htm 


You can get a 2.4 GHz with 256 MB RAM and 40 Gig HD for $300. Monitor is 
extra. You need to go to the small business section of Dell to find this 
deal. Well shoot, I just looked at the new catalog that arrived this 
afternoon and that deal went up a hundred bucks. But still not a bad 
deal. dell.com/shopdellbiz  E-VALUE code 64994-S40303q. Oh, I see why, 
it includes a 17" Monitor.

Holler if you need some help.

Brian
From nttp.sc.sg at bigsleep.org  Tue Apr 12 07:25:20 2005
From: nttp.sc.sg at bigsleep.org (Blammo)
Date: Tue Apr 12 02:30:04 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] 
	Re: SHEESH!  Is there anyone who doesn't outsource Tech Support?
References: <d2pne1$p96$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<Xns962DA243D5037blammo@216.154.195.61> <d2rhap$lgj$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<d2rr03$qne$1@news.spamcop.net> <d2s0jf$tv9$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<d3fesd$7rs$1@news.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <Xns9635EE54B7EA9blammo@216.154.195.61>

On 11 Apr 2005 Brian (SnSR) entered spamcop.geeks and left 
news:d3fesd$7rs$1@news.spamcop.net:

> Here's something that I just ran across that you may find helpful, if 
> you haven't already finished. There's a link on the page to a video of 
> how to install a hard drive. The video is very professional and high 
> quality ;). Well, maybe not, but it gets the points across.
> 

Here is a site with some nice pictures illustrating how to deal with a 
broken computer.
http://members.aol.com/spoons1000/break/index.html
Activity 4 details how to fix your existing harddrive.

BTW; if you have some scratched CDs, I can give you detailed instructions 
how to fix them, for good.
-- 
| Ric
|
From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net  Tue Apr 12 09:32:18 2005
From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy)
Date: Tue Apr 12 09:30:03 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Rejection 5.6.1
Message-ID: <d3gic4$po4$1@news.spamcop.net>

What does this mean?

Final-Recipient: rfc822;x@x
Action: failed
Status: 5.6.1
Diagnostic-Code: smtp;554 5.6.1 Body type not supported by Remote
Host

TIA

Miss Betsy



-- 



From MikeE at ster.invalid  Tue Apr 12 08:43:19 2005
From: MikeE at ster.invalid (Mike Easter)
Date: Tue Apr 12 10:45:10 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Rejection 5.6.1
References: <d3gic4$po4$1@news.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <d3gmmt$s0f$1@news.spamcop.net>

Miss Betsy wrote:
> What does this mean?
>

That is a delivery status notification.

> Final-Recipient: rfc822;x@x
> Action: failed
> Status: 5.6.1

= 'Media' not supported

> Diagnostic-Code: smtp;554 5.6.1 Body type not supported by Remote

554 5.6.1 = enhanced error code

Depending upon where you read, that can be caused by the receiving
filters being misconfigured or an 8 bit based conflict;  here're 2
examples of snippages:


Messages bounce with: "554 5.6.1 Body type not supported by Remote Host"
This occurs when mail is sent to a recipient with badly configured mail
filtering systems, and is mostly seen when using webmail. This bounce
message occurs when the receiving mailserver has a front-end filter
installed which tells us it supports 8 bit MIME characters and accepts
our message, but then cannot deliver the message to the backend server
because that does not support 8 bit MIME.
http://www.virtualnames.co.uk/faq.php3?id=8BITMIME

When you send messages that contain binary MIME (8bitmime) parts, you
receive the following text in an NDR:
554 5.6.1 Body type not supported by Remote Host.
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=895857


What was it you were trying to send, and what does the
Content-Transfer-Encoding line say?


-- 
Mike Easter
kibitzer, not SC admin

From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net  Tue Apr 12 12:42:51 2005
From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy)
Date: Tue Apr 12 12:45:04 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Rejection 5.6.1
References: <d3gic4$po4$1@news.spamcop.net> <d3gmmt$s0f$1@news.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <d3gtqc$gb$1@news.spamcop.net>

"Mike Easter" <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote in message 
news:d3gmmt$s0f$1@news.spamcop.net...
>
> What was it you were trying to send, and what does the
> Content-Transfer-Encoding line say?
>

It was an ordinary email in OE, plain text.
I can't look at the message source right now.

Possibly because I pasted something from Word in the email?

Miss Betsy 


From Ilgaz at spamcop.net  Tue Apr 12 20:58:59 2005
From: Ilgaz at spamcop.net (Ilgaz Ocal)
Date: Tue Apr 12 13:00:16 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Rejection 5.6.1
References: <d3gtqc$gb$1@news.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <d3guoi$rn$1@news.spamcop.net>

On 2005-04-12 19:42:51 +0300, "Miss Betsy" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> said:

> "Mike Easter" <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote in message 
> news:d3gmmt$s0f$1@news.spamcop.net...
>> 
>> What was it you were trying to send, and what does the
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding line say?
>> 
> 
> It was an ordinary email in OE, plain text.
> I can't look at the message source right now.
> 
> Possibly because I pasted something from Word in the email?
> 
> Miss Betsy

I bet it (OE) converted it to HTML for some reason and the recipient  
has filtered html mail.

You should check OE preferences to make sure it doesn't send html mail, 
it loves it :) I mean, in case you don't use styled (bold etc) text 
while you write.

I don't know the current version but I clearly remember they made 
entire usenet community mad defaulting the news  sending format to 
HTML. Yes it happened.

Have a nice day

Ilgaz Ocal

From me at privacy.net  Tue Apr 12 20:19:35 2005
From: me at privacy.net (Tom Cumming)
Date: Tue Apr 12 14:20:06 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: I need real usenet server (no bin needed)
In-Reply-To: <Xns963550F0F8FE9maguskent@216.154.195.61>
References: <Ilgaz-44358D.15184710042005@news.spamcop.net>
	<Xns963550F0F8FE9maguskent@216.154.195.61>
Message-ID: <d3h3fk$5ah$1@news.spamcop.net>

On 11/04/05 12:56, magus kent wrote:

> I've read about this one:
> 
> www.x-privat.org/join_en.php

It works but its rather slow (not a patch on cis.dfn)
However, someone on another newsgroup pointed me in the direction 
of: http://poczta.gazeta.pl/poczta/0,0.html

It is actually a free email service (web and pop3), but they give 
you access to their news server (news.gazeta.pl) as an extra, 
using the same username/password as you use for your email account.

The site's in Polish mind, but once you've filled in the signup 
form (I found an online polish-english dictionary ;) ) it carries 
all the normal english-speaking newsgroup hierarchies.
From nobody at spamcop.net  Tue Apr 12 16:47:43 2005
From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat)
Date: Tue Apr 12 18:50:10 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] is anyone else having problems with the web?
Message-ID: <d3hj6d$dgm$1@news.spamcop.net>

seems like maybe the domain name servers are on strike - sometimes sites
will resolve, sometimes not and at any one time a site will resolve while at
the exact same time another won't so it's unlikely to be my connection...
thoughts?


From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net  Tue Apr 12 20:04:50 2005
From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy)
Date: Tue Apr 12 20:05:09 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Rejection 5.6.1
References: <d3gtqc$gb$1@news.spamcop.net> <d3guoi$rn$1@news.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <d3hne3$fgv$1@news.spamcop.net>

<snip>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
 charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409

That's what the message headers say.

There is something about 8bit there.  Who should I write to?  The
abuse desk of the person I am trying to email?

Miss Betsy


From MikeE at ster.invalid  Tue Apr 12 18:44:02 2005
From: MikeE at ster.invalid (Mike Easter)
Date: Tue Apr 12 20:45:03 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Rejection 5.6.1
References: <d3gtqc$gb$1@news.spamcop.net> <d3guoi$rn$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<d3hne3$fgv$1@news.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <d3hpt8$h1a$1@news.spamcop.net>

Miss Betsy wrote:
> <snip>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain;
>  charset="Windows-1252"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409

> That's what the message headers say.
>
> There is something about 8bit there.

Yep.  That's not what my OE headers say, which say I'm 7bit.

Content-Type: text/plain;
 charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

My mail plaintext sending configuration is -- International settings
button: Default encoding Western European ISO

But I haven't experimented with this issue to find out what I have to do
to cause 8bit to be in there.  That is, I don't know the answers to
these questions we are raising.

> Who should I write to?  The
> abuse desk of the person I am trying to email?

There's probably some configuration you could adopt which would solve
the problem, but you shouldn't have to do that.

The other thing you could do would be to temporarily change over to
base64 or uuencoding for the item to them.

At least I think that would work.  Those encoding schemes were designed
to use 7bit ascii.

-- 
Mike Easter
kibitzer, not SC admin

From devnull at devnull.spamcop.net  Wed Apr 13 00:24:53 2005
From: devnull at devnull.spamcop.net (Heidz)
Date: Tue Apr 12 23:30:06 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: is anyone else having problems with the web?
References: <d3hj6d$dgm$1@news.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <d3i3jt$n3c$1@news.spamcop.net>


"Sylvesterthekat" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:d3hj6d$dgm$1@news.spamcop.net...
> seems like maybe the domain name servers are on strike - sometimes sites
> will resolve, sometimes not and at any one time a site will resolve while
at
> the exact same time another won't so it's unlikely to be my connection...
> thoughts?

Comcast has apparently shit the bed too, for the second time in less than a
week, mail and web servers are both down.  I think there must be some major
failures going on.


From bitbucket at spamcop.net  Wed Apr 13 00:30:58 2005
From: bitbucket at spamcop.net (Heidz)
Date: Tue Apr 12 23:35:04 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] 
	Re: SHEESH!  Is there anyone who doesn't outsource Tech Support?
References: <d2pne1$p96$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<Xns962DA243D5037blammo@216.154.195.61> <d2rhap$lgj$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<d2rr03$qne$1@news.spamcop.net> <d2s0jf$tv9$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<d3fesd$7rs$1@news.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <d3i3va$n6s$1@news.spamcop.net>


"Brian (SnSR)" <SCNews.5.myspamgobbler@spamgourmet.com> wrote in message
news:d3fesd$7rs$1@news.spamcop.net...
> Here's something that I just ran across that you may find helpful, if
> you haven't already finished. There's a link on the page to a video of
> how to install a hard drive. The video is very professional and high
> quality ;). Well, maybe not, but it gets the points across.
>
>
www.lexundesigns.com/LexunFreeware/Topics/Installing%20a%20Second%20Hard%20D
rive.htm
>
>
> You can get a 2.4 GHz with 256 MB RAM and 40 Gig HD for $300. Monitor is
> extra. You need to go to the small business section of Dell to find this
> deal. Well shoot, I just looked at the new catalog that arrived this
> afternoon and that deal went up a hundred bucks. But still not a bad
> deal. dell.com/shopdellbiz  E-VALUE code 64994-S40303q. Oh, I see why,
> it includes a 17" Monitor.
>
> Holler if you need some help.

Saved, just in case........thanks.  Well, here's the thing.  While the
internet was down, again, I decided to use the GW utility to try to scan and
repair the drive. Last time it said "unrepairable errors" this time it moved
a bunch of stuff and said "disk repaired, drive is now error-free".   Why
didn't it do that last time, I wonder?  I'm suspicious, but plans to replace
it are on temporary hold, it might crap out at any second.. ;)


From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net  Wed Apr 13 04:17:06 2005
From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy)
Date: Wed Apr 13 04:15:03 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Rejection 5.6.1
References: <d3gtqc$gb$1@news.spamcop.net> <d3guoi$rn$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<d3hne3$fgv$1@news.spamcop.net> <d3hpt8$h1a$1@news.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <d3ik93$uq2$1@news.spamcop.net>

"Mike Easter" <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote in message
news:d3hpt8$h1a$1@news.spamcop.net...
> Miss Betsy wrote:
> > <snip>
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > Content-Type: text/plain;
> >  charset="Windows-1252"
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
>
> > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409
>
> > That's what the message headers say.
> >
> > There is something about 8bit there.
>
> Yep.  That's not what my OE headers say, which say I'm 7bit.
>
> Content-Type: text/plain;
>  charset="iso-8859-1"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>
> My mail plaintext sending configuration is -- International
settings
> button: Default encoding Western European ISO
>
> But I haven't experimented with this issue to find out what I
have to do
> to cause 8bit to be in there.  That is, I don't know the answers
to
> these questions we are raising.
>
> > Who should I write to?  The
> > abuse desk of the person I am trying to email?
>
> There's probably some configuration you could adopt which would
solve
> the problem, but you shouldn't have to do that.
>
> The other thing you could do would be to temporarily change over
to
> base64 or uuencoding for the item to them.
>

It is cut and pasting from MS Word that causes the 8bit.  If I have
composed in the email, it is 7bit, but if I have cut and pasted
from Word it is 8 bit.

Thanks a lot!  I never would have discovered that!

Miss Betsy



From Ilgaz at spamcop.net  Wed Apr 13 12:13:26 2005
From: Ilgaz at spamcop.net (Ilgaz Ocal)
Date: Wed Apr 13 04:15:09 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: is anyone else having problems with the web?
References: <d3i3jt$n3c$1@news.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <d3ikb6$upv$1@news.spamcop.net>

On 2005-04-13 06:24:53 +0300, "Heidz" <devnull@devnull.spamcop.net> said:

> 
> "Sylvesterthekat" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
> news:d3hj6d$dgm$1@news.spamcop.net...
>> seems like maybe the domain name servers are on strike - sometimes sites
>> will resolve, sometimes not and at any one time a site will resolve while
> at
>> the exact same time another won't so it's unlikely to be my connection...
>> thoughts?
> 
> Comcast has apparently shit the bed too, for the second time in less than a
> week, mail and web servers are both down.  I think there must be some major
> failures going on.

I can verify, just seen some posts on cable newsgroup on "real" usenet :)

I better steal and paste a legit looking solution ;)

Ilgaz Ocal
____
http://199.166.24.10/.servers/  (http://support.open-rsc.org/.servers/)
http://64.40.160.15/helpdesk/dns/

You can freely use any of these servers instead of Comcast's 
nameservers if you want to
be able to see ALL the domain names on the net, not just the ones in 
the US Government
controlled nameservers. You will, of course be able to see all the 
"old" domain names like
.com, but you'll also be able to see all the ORSC new top level domains, too.

199.166.28.10	(PS0.NS2.VRX.NET) - Atlanta, Ga 
199.166.29.3	(nl.public.rootfix.net) - Nederlands
199.166.31.3	(NS1.QUASAR.NET) - Orlando, FL, USA
199.5.157.128	(ASLAN.OPEN-RSC.ORG) - Detroit, MI, USA

Also working:
4.2.2.1	(vnsc-pri.sys.gtei.net)
4.2.2.2	(vnsc-bak.sys.gtei.net)
199.166.24.1	[ns1.vrx.net]
204.80.125.130	[pine.higgs.net]

Software (freeware) for those who want to do it the hard way...
'TreeWalk DNS' is a Domain Name Server program which fetches and 
converts Web Site
human readable names into the numbered addresses your computer needs so 
that your
browser, email, icq, and ftp programs can surf the Web. For Microsoft 
Windows? XP /
2000 /.NET /2003 workstations or servers.
http://64.202.167.122  (http://ntcanuck.com/)

From nobody at spamcop.net  Wed Apr 13 08:17:48 2005
From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat)
Date: Wed Apr 13 10:20:05 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: is anyone else having problems with the web?
References: <d3i3jt$n3c$1@news.spamcop.net> <d3ikb6$upv$1@news.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <d3j9m9$9hd$1@news.spamcop.net>


"Ilgaz Ocal" <Ilgaz@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:d3ikb6$upv$1@news.spamcop.net...
 > > "Sylvesterthekat" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
> > news:d3hj6d$dgm$1@news.spamcop.net...
> >> seems like maybe the domain name servers are on strike - sometimes
sites
> >> will resolve, sometimes not and at any one time a site will resolve
while
> > at
> >> the exact same time another won't so it's unlikely to be my
connection...
> >> thoughts?
> >
> > Comcast has apparently shit the bed too, for the second time in less
than a
> > week, mail and web servers are both down.  I think there must be some
major
> > failures going on.
>
> I can verify, just seen some posts on cable newsgroup on "real" usenet :)
>
> I better steal and paste a legit looking solution ;)
>
> Ilgaz Ocal

> Software (freeware) for those who want to do it the hard way...
> 'TreeWalk DNS' is a Domain Name Server program which fetches and
> converts Web Site
> human readable names into the numbered addresses your computer needs so
> that your
> browser, email, icq, and ftp programs can surf the Web. For Microsoft
> Windows® XP /
> 2000 /.NET /2003 workstations or servers.
> http://64.202.167.122  (http://ntcanuck.com/)

Cool thanks! I've downloaded it and if things start to muck about again I'll
for sure install it. Sounds like it may be worth installing anyway as it's
supposedly faster.


From nobody at spamcop.net  Wed Apr 13 08:18:50 2005
From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat)
Date: Wed Apr 13 10:20:17 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: is anyone else having problems with the web?
References: <d3hj6d$dgm$1@news.spamcop.net> <d3i3jt$n3c$1@news.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <d3j9o8$9hn$1@news.spamcop.net>


"Heidz" <devnull@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:d3i3jt$n3c$1@news.spamcop.net...
>
> "Sylvesterthekat" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
> news:d3hj6d$dgm$1@news.spamcop.net...
> > seems like maybe the domain name servers are on strike - sometimes sites
> > will resolve, sometimes not and at any one time a site will resolve
while
> at
> > the exact same time another won't so it's unlikely to be my
connection...
> > thoughts?
>
> Comcast has apparently shit the bed too, for the second time in less than
a
> week, mail and web servers are both down.  I think there must be some
major
> failures going on.

Hmm, definitely sounds like there's a failure or more than one, somewhere.
Things are ok here at the moment but that thing that Ilgaz posted looks like
it may solve the problem if it crops up again. Although I assume that you
have to have a good connection at first for it to gather the info in the
first place.


From nobody at spamcop.net  Wed Apr 13 11:47:32 2005
From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo)
Date: Wed Apr 13 10:50:02 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: is anyone else having problems with the web?
References: <d3i3jt$n3c$1@news.spamcop.net> <d3ikb6$upv$1@news.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <d3jbe5$ag7$1@news.spamcop.net>



Ilgaz Ocal wrote:
> You can freely use any of these servers instead of Comcast's
> nameservers if you want to
> be able to see ALL the domain names on the net, not just the ones in
> the US Government
> controlled nameservers. You will, of course be able to see all the
> "old" domain names like
> .com, but you'll also be able to see all the ORSC new top level
> domains, too.
>
> 199.166.28.10 (PS0.NS2.VRX.NET) - Atlanta, Ga

Couldn't connect to that one.

> 199.166.31.3 (NS1.QUASAR.NET) - Orlando, FL, USA

That one worked. Thx, saved for Sam Spade personal.


From bitbucket at spamcop.net  Wed Apr 13 23:22:23 2005
From: bitbucket at spamcop.net (Heidz)
Date: Wed Apr 13 22:30:03 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: is anyone else having problems with the web?
References: <d3hj6d$dgm$1@news.spamcop.net> <d3i3jt$n3c$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<d3j9o8$9hn$1@news.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <d3kkav$1fr$1@news.spamcop.net>


"Sylvesterthekat" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:d3j9o8$9hn$1@news.spamcop.net...
>
> Hmm, definitely sounds like there's a failure or more than one, somewhere.
> Things are ok here at the moment but that thing that Ilgaz posted looks
like
> it may solve the problem if it crops up again. Although I assume that you
> have to have a good connection at first for it to gather the info in the
> first place.

Can you believe it's happening again tonight?  I guess they've decide to
shut the internet off at night or something.....


From Ilgaz at spamcop.net  Thu Apr 14 10:31:15 2005
From: Ilgaz at spamcop.net (Ilgaz Ocal)
Date: Thu Apr 14 02:35:06 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: is anyone else having problems with the web?
References: <d3kkav$1fr$1@news.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <d3l2nj$aq7$1@news.spamcop.net>

On 2005-04-14 05:22:23 +0300, "Heidz" <bitbucket@spamcop.net> said:

> 
> "Sylvesterthekat" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
> news:d3j9o8$9hn$1@news.spamcop.net...
>> 
>> Hmm, definitely sounds like there's a failure or more than one, somewhere.
>> Things are ok here at the moment but that thing that Ilgaz posted looks
> like
>> it may solve the problem if it crops up again. Although I assume that you
>> have to have a good connection at first for it to gather the info in the
>> first place.
> 
> Can you believe it's happening again tonight?  I guess they've decide to
> shut the internet off at night or something.....

Worse is, someone could take advantage of problems you live. E.g. 
distribute a trojan fixing stuff (!) etc.

Comcast is a big ISP if I know right.

Some people already suggest open proxies to surf web, in good will.

Ilgaz Ocal

From nobody at spamcop.net  Thu Apr 14 10:31:33 2005
From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat)
Date: Thu Apr 14 12:35:05 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: is anyone else having problems with the web?
References: <d3hj6d$dgm$1@news.spamcop.net> <d3i3jt$n3c$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<d3j9o8$9hn$1@news.spamcop.net> <d3kkav$1fr$1@news.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <d3m5t5$smp$1@news.spamcop.net>


"Heidz" <bitbucket@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:d3kkav$1fr$1@news.spamcop.net...
 > Can you believe it's happening again tonight?  I guess they've decide to
> shut the internet off at night or something.....

Probably the best time to fix something, if they're gonna fix it.  I never
got the opportunity to test whether it was the DNS cos it didn't fail again
after I wrote some IP addresses down.  I'm pretty sure that's what it was
though, the connection was fine otherwise.


From nobody at spamcop.net  Thu Apr 14 10:33:23 2005
From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat)
Date: Thu Apr 14 12:35:09 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] 
	Re: SHEESH!  Is there anyone who doesn't outsource Tech Support?
References: <d2pne1$p96$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<Xns962DA243D5037blammo@216.154.195.61> <d2rhap$lgj$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<d2rr03$qne$1@news.spamcop.net> <d2s0jf$tv9$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<d3fesd$7rs$1@news.spamcop.net> <d3i3va$n6s$1@news.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <d3m60k$snh$1@news.spamcop.net>


"Heidz" <bitbucket@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:d3i3va$n6s$1@news.spamcop.net...
 > Saved, just in case........thanks.  Well, here's the thing.  While the
> internet was down, again, I decided to use the GW utility to try to scan
and
> repair the drive. Last time it said "unrepairable errors" this time it
moved
> a bunch of stuff and said "disk repaired, drive is now error-free".   Why
> didn't it do that last time, I wonder?  I'm suspicious, but plans to
replace
> it are on temporary hold, it might crap out at any second.. ;)

Hmm... maybe next time disconnect from the internet before you try running
drive scanning/repairing tools. Sometimes running processes cause errors
when you do a disk scan and no doubt also interfere with repair procedures.


From nobody at spamcop.net  Thu Apr 14 14:36:33 2005
From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo)
Date: Thu Apr 14 13:48:55 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] 
	Re: SHEESH!  Is there anyone who doesn't outsource Tech Support?
References: <d2pne1$p96$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<Xns962DA243D5037blammo@216.154.195.61> <d2rhap$lgj$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<d2rr03$qne$1@news.spamcop.net> <d2s0jf$tv9$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<d3fesd$7rs$1@news.spamcop.net> <d3i3va$n6s$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<d3m60k$snh$1@news.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <d3m9n3$ms$1@news.spamcop.net>



Sylvesterthekat wrote:
> Hmm... maybe next time disconnect from the internet before you try
> running drive scanning/repairing tools. Sometimes running processes
> cause errors when you do a disk scan and no doubt also interfere with
> repair procedures.

Absolutely. One time I was doing a full scale scan/repair/defrag of my 40 GB
HD at home and it takes a couple hours so I went out and ran errands,
expecting to get back to work on the puter when I got home. What I actually
got was a multi page error log that the process had started and stopped
umpteen million times without success because Atguard kept writing to a log
file on the HD every time someone port probed me, and that crashed the
routine ;-)

P.S. Close your email program too, close anything that might do *anything*.


From devnull at devnul.spamcop.net  Thu Apr 14 16:23:38 2005
From: devnull at devnul.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer)
Date: Thu Apr 14 15:25:25 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] 
	Re: SHEESH!  Is there anyone who doesn't outsource Tech Support?
References: <d2pne1$p96$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<Xns962DA243D5037blammo@216.154.195.61> <d2rhap$lgj$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<d2rr03$qne$1@news.spamcop.net> <d2s0jf$tv9$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<d3fesd$7rs$1@news.spamcop.net> <d3i3va$n6s$1@news.spamcop.net>
	<d3m60k$snh$1@news.spamcop.net> <d3m9n3$ms$1@news.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <d3mg00$5ei$1@news.spamcop.net>


"indigo" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message news:d3m9n3$ms$1@news.spamcop.net...
>
>
> Sylvesterthekat wrote:
> > Hmm... maybe next time disconnect from the internet before you try
> > running drive scanning/repairing tools. Sometimes running processes
> > cause errors when you do a disk scan and no doubt also interfere with
> > repair procedures.
>
> Absolutely. One time I was doing a full scale scan/repair/defrag of my 40 GB
> HD at home and it takes a couple hours so I went out and ran errands,
> expecting to get back to work on the puter when I got home. What I actually
> got was a multi page error log that the process had started and stopped
> umpteen million times without success because Atguard kept writing to a log
> file on the HD every time someone port probed me, and that crashed the
> routine ;-)
>
> P.S. Close your email program too, close anything that might do *anything*.

I have to disable everything, antivirus, Zone alarm, screensavers, etc, and without
Zone alarm running there is no way I'd be connected to the internet, so it's a sure
thing that I was disconnected from everything when I did it - it's a utility that you
start from a DOS via a system CD anyway.   Now there's noise coming from inside my
pc, might be a noisy fan or it's the disk rotation crapping out.  Why am I so
calm....


From kenbrody at spamcop.net  Fri Apr 15 13:39:42 2005
From: kenbrody at spamcop.net (Kenneth Brody)
Date: Fri Apr 15 12:45:12 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Equalizing MP3 volume
Message-ID: <425FEE4E.3DAECA4A@spamcop.net>

Does anyone here know of a (preferrably freeware/shareware) utility which
can equalize the volume of a set of MP3 files?  Specifically, I have a set
of recordings of teleconferences.  Some of them are recorded at a much
lower volume than the others.  I would like to burn a CD to listen on the
road, but if I crank up the volume enough to hear one file, I'll break
my eardrums when the other one starts.

Thanks.

-- 
+-------------------------+--------------------+-----------------------------+
| Kenneth J. Brody        | www.hvcomputer.com |                             |
| kenbrody/at\spamcop.net | www.fptech.com     | #include <std_disclaimer.h> |
+-------------------------+--------------------+-----------------------------+
Don't e-mail me at: <mailto:ThisIsASpamTrap@gmail.com>

From nobody at spamcop.net  Fri Apr 15 14:11:38 2005
From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo)
Date: Fri Apr 15 13:15:06 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Equalizing MP3 volume
References: <425FEE4E.3DAECA4A@spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <d3oska$bbr$1@news.spamcop.net>



Kenneth Brody wrote:
> Does anyone here know of a (preferrably freeware/shareware) utility
> which can equalize the volume of a set of MP3 files?  Specifically, I
> have a set of recordings of teleconferences.  Some of them are
> recorded at a much lower volume than the others.  I would like to
> burn a CD to listen on the road, but if I crank up the volume enough
> to hear one file, I'll break
> my eardrums when the other one starts.

I *could* help you......but I can't remember the name of the CD burning
software I have at home -- Nero's Ahead I think -- it came with my external
DVD-RW. It has an option to do exactly what you want to do, and it also has
an equalizer so you can boost or attenuate bass, midrange, and treble (about
10 frequencies) and some filters to get rid of hissing and pops (like from
an LP recording).


From TMHRVMFWREVN at spammotel.com  Fri Apr 15 20:51:18 2005
From: TMHRVMFWREVN at spammotel.com (Canopus)
Date: Fri Apr 15 15:55:06 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Equalizing MP3 volume
References: <425FEE4E.3DAECA4A@spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <d3p5vl$fuv$1@news.spamcop.net>

Kenneth Brody wrote on 15/04/2005 17:39:42:-

> Does anyone here know of a (preferrably freeware/shareware) utility
> which can equalize the volume of a set of MP3 files?

Audacity http://audacity.sourceforge.net/about/  You may have to also
download the Lame Encoder Library, an optional free download to enable
full working with mp3 files.  The beauty of Audacity, besides it being
free, is that it doesn't install, just place the files where you want
them and click on the exe or make a short cut to it.

Rob
From nttp.sc.s at bigsleep.org  Fri Apr 15 22:10:59 2005
From: nttp.sc.s at bigsleep.org (Blammo)
Date: Fri Apr 15 17:15:07 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Equalizing MP3 volume
References: <425FEE4E.3DAECA4A@spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <Xns96399059FBE45blammo@216.154.195.61>

On 15 Apr 2005 Kenneth Brody entered spamcop.geeks and left
news:425FEE4E.3DAECA4A@spamcop.net: 

> Does anyone here know of a (preferrably freeware/shareware) utility
> which can equalize the volume of a set of MP3 files?

MP3Gain http://mp3gain.sourceforge.net/
Also see http://replaygain.hydrogenaudio.org/
I think I prefer Foobar2000 http://www.foobar2000.org/ which also includes 
ReplayGain.


-- 
| Ric
|
From nttp.sc.s at bigsleep.org  Fri Apr 15 22:57:02 2005
From: nttp.sc.s at bigsleep.org (Blammo)
Date: Fri Apr 15 18:00:46 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Equalizing MP3 volume
References: <425FEE4E.3DAECA4A@spamcop.net>
	<Xns96399059FBE45blammo@216.154.195.61>
Message-ID: <Xns96399828B2C40blammo@216.154.195.61>

On 15 Apr 2005 Blammo entered spamcop.geeks and left 
news:Xns96399059FBE45blammo@216.154.195.61:

> I think I prefer Foobar2000

Oops, correction, I found MP3Gain more useful for equalizing levels. It 
shows clipping levels, very nice, you just have to try it to see.

-- 
| Ric
|
From Ilgaz at spamcop.net  Sat Apr 16 02:13:12 2005
From: Ilgaz at spamcop.net (Ilgaz Ocal)
Date: Fri Apr 15 18:15:04 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Equalizing MP3 volume
References: <425FEE4E.3DAECA4A@spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <d3pe9n$lqb$1@news.spamcop.net>

On 2005-04-15 19:39:42 +0300, Kenneth Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> said:

> Does anyone here know of a (preferrably freeware/shareware) utility which
> can equalize the volume of a set of MP3 files?  Specifically, I have a set
> of recordings of teleconferences.  Some of them are recorded at a much
> lower volume than the others.  I would like to burn a CD to listen on the
> road, but if I crank up the volume enough to hear one file, I'll break
> my eardrums when the other one starts.
> 
> Thanks.

iTunes has that feature named "sound check", performs real fast as I 
saw it doing on 2300 mp3s.

The problem is, I use iTunes on OS X and not sure about windows one 
quality. It also loves to copy files to its own folder :)

I mean, for practical purposes.

Ilgaz Ocal

From TMHRVMFWREVN at spammotel.com  Sat Apr 16 00:16:33 2005
From: TMHRVMFWREVN at spammotel.com (Canopus)
Date: Fri Apr 15 19:20:04 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Equalizing MP3 volume
References: <425FEE4E.3DAECA4A@spamcop.net>
	<Xns96399059FBE45blammo@216.154.195.61>
Message-ID: <d3pi0g$nrr$1@news.spamcop.net>

Blammo wrote on 15/04/2005 22:10:59:-

> I think I prefer Foobar2000 http://www.foobar2000.org/ which also
> includes ReplayGain.

I was going to suggest that, but, I haven't put it back on my PC yet
after reformatting and couldn't remember whether it equalised mp3 files
during play or you could edit them and equalise them for playing on
anything.  I seem to remember it was the former, but, not sure now.
Have to put it back on.  Great player, about the only one that can play
shorten (shn) files.

Rob

From nttp.sc.sg at bigsleep.org  Sat Apr 16 01:47:16 2005
From: nttp.sc.sg at bigsleep.org (Blammo)
Date: Fri Apr 15 20:50:07 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Equalizing MP3 volume
References: <425FEE4E.3DAECA4A@spamcop.net>
	<Xns96399059FBE45blammo@216.154.195.61> <d3pi0g$nrr$1@news.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <Xns9639B505169CDblammo@216.154.195.61>

On 15 Apr 2005 Canopus entered spamcop.geeks and left 
news:d3pi0g$nrr$1@news.spamcop.net:

> Blammo wrote on 15/04/2005 22:10:59:-
> 
>> I think I prefer Foobar2000 http://www.foobar2000.org/ which also
>> includes ReplayGain.
> 
> I was going to suggest that, but, I haven't put it back on my PC yet
> after reformatting and couldn't remember whether it equalised mp3 files
> during play or you could edit them and equalise them for playing on
> anything.  I seem to remember it was the former, but, not sure now.
> Have to put it back on.  Great player, about the only one that can play
> shorten (shn) files.
> 

It works pretty good, I think it does add the ReplayGain header to the 
files, but I would use the disk transport to write it to disk. I don't 
think it changes the actual level, not sure how well the header is 
supported.

Like I said (in my second post), I like MP3Gain better. I combined mp3s 
from several different albums, equalized the gain for each album, then 
combined the albums and equalized the overall gain, and created a (large) 
album to burn to disk. I was hoping to preserve the original level (in 
relation to original album level), but remove any clipping, and of course 
make the entire disk with overall equal levels. Took me a while to figure 
it out (had to read the help files) but I got very good results.
Also MP3Gain has a handy undo feature.

-- 
| Ric
|
From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net  Sat Apr 16 19:42:29 2005
From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Glenn Daniels)
Date: Sat Apr 16 18:45:03 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] encoded jscript spamitems
Message-ID: <d3s4bv$t0t$1@news.spamcop.net>

After six months of no spamitems containing
encoded jscript IFrame exploits, the perp has
surfaced again.

These are of no particular significance to most as the
scripts will only run in unpatched email clients with
open preview panes with jscript rendering enabled.

Evenso, the scripts seem always to point to
compromised servers which have been hacked, and
the ISPs providing hosting to the servers welcome
the courtesy notifies I provide them. Usually the
hacked sites are shut down, cleaned up and
secured within a few days

The hacked sites are often set to provide free
blind downloads of new Trojans, and the
antivirus mavens welcome the samples I
retrieve from the hacked servers and are
forthcoming with new AV definitions.

For those who actually happen across these
jscripts in the course of their spam reporting
activities, please post parse trackers in this
thread and I will retrieve samples using
the trackers. As "new" samples show up,
I will provide notifies to ISPs hosting the hacked
servers, retrieve samples of interest to
submit to SARC.

Because of the security issues involved, I may
or may not immediately post a meaningful
response to posted trackers but will look at
the samples offered for jscripts not already
investigated. I am not willing to expose to group
the embarrassment of the ISPs and hacked servers
involved, but I am agreeable to alerting the
parties with direct interest in the security of
the compromised servers. Also, I provide the
information to the FTC as they in turn may
have investigators with interest in the spamming
hacker(s).

Thanks,
Glenn


From nttp.sc.sg at bigsleep.org  Sun Apr 17 06:32:14 2005
From: nttp.sc.sg at bigsleep.org (Blammo)
Date: Sun Apr 17 01:35:22 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: encoded jscript spamitems
References: <d3s4bv$t0t$1@news.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <Xns963AE5587F403blammo@216.154.195.61>

On 16 Apr 2005 Glenn Daniels entered spamcop.geeks and left 
news:d3s4bv$t0t$1@news.spamcop.net:

> These are of no particular significance to most as the
> scripts will only run in unpatched email clients with
> open preview panes with jscript rendering enabled.
> 

Jscript only works in Internet Explorer (somewhat in Opera), and any 
applications that use the MS HTML engine. That would be mainly Outlook 
Express. This encoding is a language that only IE understands.

Script Decoder - http://www.virtualconspiracy.com/
-- 
| Ric
|
From avoozl at spamcop.net  Sun Apr 17 07:34:27 2005
From: avoozl at spamcop.net (Chris F. Willoughby)
Date: Sun Apr 17 09:35:04 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] 
	Re: Goodbye, Old Friend... Computer Associate's E-Z Trust Anti-Virus
References: <41FD38E6.FBDEEA98@sonnic.net>
Message-ID: <d3toik$ktv$1@news.spamcop.net>

:-(

I still use it.. but I agree with you about their website. They fubar'd it.

Chris

"Bill Turlock" <"Bill Turlock"@sonnic.net> wrote in message 
news:41FD38E6.FBDEEA98@sonnic.net...
>
> It was with sadness that last night I removed Computer Associate's E-Z
> Trust Anti-Virus from my computer.
>
>
> I have been using their software to protect my computer since the late
> nineties. I started with their free Inoculate-It Personal Edition, and
> have had nothing but praise for their products. I had never had a virus
> get through, and only one false positive, in all that time!
>
> I had recommended it unequivocally to all my friends and family.
>
> When the free IPE was discontinued, I gladly paid their price for the
> new E-Z, and the $10.00/year for definition updates.
>
> Earlier this month I had received an e-mail notice that my yearly
> subscription was about to expire, and that I should go to their website
> to get it renewed.
>
> The website is a maze of twisty little passages, all alike, impossible
> for me to navigate, and in most places, nonfunctional for me. At one
> point, it wanted me to enter my CC number on a non-SSL page! And good
> luck on getting their on-line help desk function to work, it's a loop!
> Talk to a human? Ain't gonna happen.
>
> And... now, the yearly definition updates subscription has gone up to
> $20.00, and if that's not enough, they've gone over to the Dark Side...
> a preference box for e-mail offers permission on the order page is
> 'pre-checked'.
>
>
> It's just too much, and I'm not going to take it any more. I've
> researched my favorite forums for recommendations on the best free A/V,
> and AVG seems to come up tops most of the time, so last night I blew out
> E-Z and installed Grisoft's AVG.
>
> Goodbye, Old Friend.
>
> Bill 


From Ilgaz at spamcop.net  Mon Apr 18 02:31:40 2005
From: Ilgaz at spamcop.net (Ilgaz)
Date: Sun Apr 17 18:35:39 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] 
	Re: Goodbye, Old Friend... Computer Associate's E-Z Trust Anti-Virus
References: <d3toik$ktv$1@news.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <d3uo4d$59i$1@news.spamcop.net>

On 2005-04-17 16:34:27 +0300, "Chris F. Willoughby" <avoozl@spamcop.net> said:

> :-(
> 
> I still use it.. but I agree with you about their website. They fubar'd it.
> 
> Chris
> 
> "Bill Turlock" <"Bill Turlock"@sonnic.net> wrote in message 
> news:41FD38E6.FBDEEA98@sonnic.net...
>> 
>> It was with sadness that last night I removed Computer Associate's E-Z
>> Trust Anti-Virus from my computer.
>> 
>> 
>> I have been using their software to protect my computer since the late
>> nineties. I started with their free Inoculate-It Personal Edition, and
>> have had nothing but praise for their products. I had never had a virus
>> get through, and only one false positive, in all that time!
>> 
>> I had recommended it unequivocally to all my friends and family.
>> 
>> When the free IPE was discontinued, I gladly paid their price for the
>> new E-Z, and the $10.00/year for definition updates.
>> 
>> Earlier this month I had received an e-mail notice that my yearly
>> subscription was about to expire, and that I should go to their website
>> to get it renewed.
>> 
>> The website is a maze of twisty little passages, all alike, impossible
>> for me to navigate, and in most places, nonfunctional for me. At one
>> point, it wanted me to enter my CC number on a non-SSL page! And good
>> luck on getting their on-line help desk function to work, it's a loop!
>> Talk to a human? Ain't gonna happen.
>> 
>> And... now, the yearly definition updates subscription has gone up to
>> $20.00, and if that's not enough, they've gone over to the Dark Side...
>> a preference box for e-mail offers permission on the order page is
>> 'pre-checked'.
>> 
>> 
>> It's just too much, and I'm not going to take it any more. I've
>> researched my favorite forums for recommendations on the best free A/V,
>> and AVG seems to come up tops most of the time, so last night I blew out
>> E-Z and installed Grisoft's AVG.
>> 
>> Goodbye, Old Friend.
>> 
>> Bill

If you do quick and dirty hack of replacing https with http, it works?

Can't believe how many sites it worked ;)

Well I understand your other concerns and can't tell anything.

AVG is nice.

Ilgaz Ocal

From rwcs at spamcop.net  Mon Apr 18 11:54:35 2005
From: rwcs at spamcop.net (BMW)
Date: Mon Apr 18 10:55:04 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] FireFox Cookies
Message-ID: <d40hn9$vv5$1@news.spamcop.net>

My browser (FireFox 1.0.3) fails to accept the SpamCop cookie sometimes 
depending on its mood URL=mailsc.spamcop.net (Today not at all).  There 
is an added interference in that I use ZoneAlarm 5.5.062.011 which likes 
to "approve cookies".  My FireFox message is that my browser has failed 
to accept a cookie.  The cookie manager will let me add spamcop.net 
and/or www.spamcop.net to the allow list BUT it won't let me exit via 
the OK button if I have added anything, if I cancel or close cookie 
dialog window nothing is saved.  Often times if I use the webmail 
interface and then return to mailsc.spamcop.net things will be 
different.  Does anyone know how to fix this?

Thanks
Bob
From eddie at eddie.web  Mon Apr 18 14:37:59 2005
From: eddie at eddie.web (eddie)
Date: Mon Apr 18 13:40:06 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Verizon DSL
Message-ID: <pan.2005.04.18.17.37.58.408000@eddie.web>

I use speakeasy DSL as a backup to my cable connection. I have had it for
years, dating back to flashcom days. They went belly-up and their "Father"
Covad switched me over to speakeasy. The connection is an old-fashioned
384K and I recently noticed Verizon offering DSL for nearly 1/3 the
speakeasy price so I called them. Not only cheaper, but they claim 3 meg!
Well I am not counting megs, but the bucks are good, so I am in the
process of switching over. 
Verizon's modem is newer and includes a router but it only has an RJ-11
input and my present DSL uses RJ-45 on both ends. The box coming
into the house is RJ-45. 
Verizon was clueless when I called them. I guess I will have to make a
cable with RJ-45 on one end and RJ-11 on the other side. Only two wires
are used for the DSL input. I already have a box installed on the outside
of my house with a splitter and filters but Verizon expects me to use my
phone line to connect to their modem. Talk about thinking inside a box.
It should be interesting when the equipment comes, and if I do get 3M/s
for $30/month, it will be a fine backup system.
I was thinking of calling speakeasy and asking them if they would up my
speed to 3M and cut the price to $30, but I didn't want to embarass them.
If Verizon works, for the price I will be happy, since I rarely use it
anyway. Just another toy, I guess. But I once read that he who has the
most toys at the end is the winner :)
One thing: I don't expect the same tech service from Verizon as I get from
speakeasy, but again, it's really a secondary, backup system for when the
cable goes dead.
-- 
Once movie theaters gave out steak knives
Today they confiscate them
From devnull at spamcop.net  Mon Apr 18 15:53:34 2005
From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince)
Date: Mon Apr 18 14:55:19 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Verizon DSL
References: <pan.2005.04.18.17.37.58.408000@eddie.web>
Message-ID: <d40vp2$809$1@news.spamcop.net>


"eddie"
| I once read that he who has the most toys at the end is the winner :)

But he has the most toys to play with *right now* has more fun <g>


From eddie at eddie.web  Mon Apr 18 16:20:53 2005
From: eddie at eddie.web (eddie)
Date: Mon Apr 18 15:25:05 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Verizon DSL
References: <pan.2005.04.18.17.37.58.408000@eddie.web>
	<d40vp2$809$1@news.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <pan.2005.04.18.19.20.53.294000@eddie.web>

On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 14:53:34 -0400, Frog Prince scratched out the
following:

> 
> "eddie"
> | I once read that he who has the most toys at the end is the winner :)
> 
> But he has the most toys to play with *right now* has more fun <g>
So you're saying you gotta do both??? :)
-- 
Once movie theaters gave out steak knives
Today they confiscate them
From eddie at eddie.web  Mon Apr 18 16:22:02 2005
From: eddie at eddie.web (eddie)
Date: Mon Apr 18 15:25:12 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Adobe just bought Macromedia!
Message-ID: <pan.2005.04.18.19.22.00.230000@eddie.web>

A bit of a surprise but I think the end result will be good for users.
http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/breaking/breakingnewsarticle.asp?feed=OBR&Date=20050418&ID=4376197
I wonder how the support will be divvied up?

-- 
Once movie theaters gave out steak knives
Today they confiscate them
From nttp.sc.sg at bigsleep.org  Mon Apr 18 22:11:34 2005
From: nttp.sc.sg at bigsleep.org (Blammo)
Date: Mon Apr 18 17:15:09 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: FireFox Cookies
References: <d40hn9$vv5$1@news.spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <Xns963C907686269blammo@216.154.195.61>

On 18 Apr 2005 BMW entered spamcop.geeks and left 
news:d40hn9$vv5$1@news.spamcop.net:

> My browser (FireFox 1.0.3) fails to accept the SpamCop cookie sometimes 
> depending on its mood URL=mailsc.spamcop.net (Today not at all).  There 
> is an added interference in that I use ZoneAlarm 5.5.062.011 which likes 
> to "approve cookies".  My FireFox message is that my browser has failed 
> to accept a cookie.  The cookie manager will let me add spamcop.net 
> and/or www.spamcop.net to the allow list BUT it won't let me exit via 
> the OK button if I have added anything, if I cancel or close cookie 
> dialog window nothing is saved.  Often times if I use the webmail 
> interface and then return to mailsc.spamcop.net things will be 
> different.  Does anyone know how to fix this?
> 

Try deleting all cookies (be sure to exit Firefox) and starting over again. 
I don't know, but they could have changed the cookie file format which 
could cause the problem.
The Zonealarm Internet security crap can cause problems, I don't even see 
why you need that with Firefox. But the problem is you can't enable it for 
IE only. I pointed out the bugs to Zonealarm support, but they insist there 
aren't any.

-- 
| Ric
|
From devnull at spamcop.net  Mon Apr 18 18:02:09 2005
From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince)
Date: Mon Apr 18 17:15:16 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Verizon DSL
References: <pan.2005.04.18.17.37.58.408000@eddie.web>
	<d40vp2$809$1@news.spamcop.net> <pan.2005.04.18.19.20.53.294000@eddie.web>
Message-ID: <d417s1$cj8$1@news.spamcop.net>


"eddie"
| > | I once read that he who has the most toys at the end is the winner :)
| >
| > But he has the most toys to play with *right now* has more fun <g>

| So you're saying you gotta do both??? :)

As for me, I'm only worried about the toys I have to play with now, I'll
leave the determination of my toys after d